A "Good" Fake Morgan Silver Dollar! Here is how to detect Counterfeit silver! 

I've watched this twice. At different dates. And I just want to say is thank you for educating me.

My dad had a peace dollar he thought was real for the longest time. And I put a magnet to it and it stuck and he was pretty upset about it. I bought him a real one for Christmas..

What a great video. I had no idea there were so many ways to verify whether a silver dollar is real, or fake. Thank you for making this video.

Man....silver coins pinging together is just as satisfying as an M1 Garand ping

Good video, but why the compulsion to add background music? It dramatically reduces the watchability.

Great video. I am just getting into collecting Morgan’s and these videos really help in my search!

This was the most helpful video about finding out the true authenticity of a real silver dollar those measurements took away what little doubt I had then the ring test I had a peace dollar to use against my Morgan but it worked . Even though the peace is so much thinner I couldn’t believe there’s that much difference but all 3 of my peace dollars ring and are all the same diameter but thinner . Thank you so much for going through all the details the way you did I’ve learned a lot more from this one video than I did others I’m likening and subscribing !

Great video, to the point and straightforward. Thanks, well done!

Loved your video, especially the ping test. For me, it is the best example on youtoube to illustrate the different pitches of fake vs. real. My conclusion is that scale, caliber and ping test is all you need to find 99% of all fakes. No expensive testing equipment needed.

*ring test* taking your morgan from MS, to choice BU. Hahah just poking fun, this is a fabulous video!! Great work!!!

I would like to see a somewhere a video or study of the variances of VF MINT non circ High Grade Morgans, width, diameter and weight. Now on your video, If that coin was cleaned and to bare metal like when new the .09 could be gone. Oh and another thing, ( if your familiar with Metal detectors..... you can Target ID a real Morgan vs. a fake one ). Example using a Teknetics metal detector with digital ID. The metal detectors with analog meters are harder to read. These should show up right at the same number and will show a difference in the numbers if other metals are being used. PS. your video is the most put together out of all I've seen, *GREAT JOB !*

Thank you very much for this informative video! I guess I will buy a tool like yours :)

Excellent video. I also do a quick test using a strong neodymium magnet where I put the coin almost vertical, slightly slanted, and then put the small magnet against the top and let it slide down. If the coin is high content silver, then the diamagnetism of a real coin will cause the magnet to slide down across the coin much slower than if the coin is not silver. I am curious if you use this test also.

A dealer on ebay sent me 100 silver dollars and 20 of them where fake . I filed a complaint and got a refund

I just bought a scale and it is very useful in detecting fraud coins 👍

I was given a Morgan dollar very similar to what you have shown. I also noticed that if you take your fingernail you can rub/scratch off the gray fake patina.

Yeah this really helped find out if my coin was fake Thx

I got eleven silver dollars from my grandparents from their wedding and gave them to me!

In the 1970s, my grandfather worked in a liquor store. When interesting coins would come in, he would buy them out of the register for face value and give them to my brother and me. I've got 3 Morgan silver dollars and I've been looking at them lately. I did the ring test this morning as I had just learned about it. 2 of them ring beautifully. One makes a horrible 'thud' :D I think I've got a fake! :D

Thankyou for the knowledge!!!

Good vid. Just a thought: the ping test sounded a bit like shopping in the produce section of Albertson's. Might want to cut the background music in that section. Very good presentation of dimensions, which was your catch. Buying off Ebay is something I don't do. Never have, never will. Too risky, too much work if it turns out to be a fake.

Thanks for the vid Charlie!

Another way to quantify the "ring" would be a digital guitar tuner that will show the sound of the ring. They are small, relatively inexpensive, and reproducible. Have not checked my few silver coins yet, but should work. Look for a tuner with the cent meter. This will give a very fine sound discrimination.

Good Info.. How much does the tool cost?

thanks for sharing, very helpful video

Can't hear the Ring test music too loud

I just weighed one that i bought on ebay advertised as a replica and it weighed 27grams and the width is exactly 2.8mm and the diameter is 37.78mm. They are taking note and improving

Great video I recently bought Morgans and I need a experienced person to look at them

THANKYOU SO MUCH. GREAT HELP!

Wowsers!!! Great video!!! Thanks so much

when you measured the coin for it's thickness(the fake that was over 3mm) were you measuring from rim to rim or the middle of the coin? i could not tell from the video. thanks! the thickness is supposed to be 2.40mm? is that middle of the coin, or rim to rim?

Is there a specific scale that you recommend

Thanks so much Sir for this good information Have nice day Sir 💐💐❤

Informative, thank you

what brand of silver tester is that? is that a GVS tester🤔🤔🤔 thx

I agree, 100%. If you're buying morgans or peace dollars make sure you have a good neodym magnet, a scale that reads 1/100 grams and a caliper. It will help you weed out almost all of the fakes.

Great video, thorough.

Whose brilliant idea was it to have loud music in the background while you're performing the ring test?

The color is a give away. Looks "too good" at a glance. Dark coloration just ain't right and the silver is pretty light. Neat to see that they made the coin to thick, accounting for the extra weight as it should be a bit under. Thanks for sharing. A quick drop on a hard surface tells the ring.

OMG I'm so glad other people agree the background music is to loud and annoying !! I think his calibration is off too. He means well but delivers mixed results and numbers,

I have zero idea how one could be a silver (or gold, especially gold) buyer in 2022 without a Sigma Analytics machine. That 1903 SD was an exceptional fake, that would fool even pretty experienced coin guys. I also like a magnet test, you can get little 1/4" x 1/4" rare earth magnets out of a dead CD player that work great.

Great video, I knew about the weight, but the dimensions were not coming up on google and the ring test would be very helpful if I had two real silver Morgans to test with, but my sound just like your fake ones. It's like the difference between Pan and The Minotaur playing the Flute. The music is a bit much and annoying.

What is the name of the tool ? Also how much do they cost? Very informative video, thank you for educating us. Can you also do a video on silver bars ?

Good one I go through 60 Morgan’s in my Morgan videos

Thanks for the info!

It has that brown tint that all the fake ones seem to have. That brown tint that you can’t get with pure silver. The one on the right is probably a mixture of bronze and silver

Where can I buy those tools you used . I've been looking for some scales like that but have not found any. The sigma machine seems to be the best way. Where do I go to find one , please sir ?

Great info, thanks.

What is scary is all the work they put to get this looking pretty decent imagine if they just use silver. It would be so close it would be unimaginable.

It is easier to use 18k gold acid to test for silver, it shows up white-ish and so much more easier than the actual silver acid tester...also if you add acid that you don't use a lot, or it is older and not worthy to use you can put it on all the marks to clean the testing stone. I don't get a lot of platinum and it came with my kit and I use it to clean the stone... ;-)

Parabéns, uma ótima aula. 👏👏👏👍

Thanks. Very useful.

It's hard enough to find original and unmessed with Morgans (cleaned, whizzed, etc) as is, now we have to worry about this! Do coin shops charge people to verify their coins, if so, how much? I have a 1903-S that I now want checked.

Thanks for info bro

Excellent content, I learned a lot. Especially the 1804 coin that my wife bought me from a garage sale for AU $1.00 was fake. Cheers.

Is there a follow up with the customer? Did eBay get their money back on the fake Morgan?

what is the type of acid do you use to verify(help) a silver coin??

They won’t ever be over weight. Nothing will ever be over weight unless it’s an antique bar from the 1700s, and even then, probably spot-on or just under.

very helpful

You might want to turn down the music for the "ring" test.

What kind of stone is that, and kind of acid?

what kind of acid did you use

The sigma tester was throwing off different readings of diameter and thickness than your digital calipers (?)

The ping/ring is the fastest most reliable test.

To be employed on scale . That's MY Morgan's worth, Iver ans above seiures in Raced Boats. Don't you agree, Justin? For the netaogir alone, "just coming out"?

When did the fake Morgans and Peace dollars starting coming out.

I got a decent looking morgan off eBay a while ago for my 16th birthday. (it was a 1902 O, but not the small o counterfeit) weighed slightly over (26.78) but still within tolerances thickness was fine (2.4mm dead) the diameter, however, was 37.8mm. on a coin that looks like it has almost no wear. I know .3mm is a tiny amount. but coupled with the weight being slightly over, im not sure if it adds up (it does ring like a silver bell though, so its almost definitely silver) kinda sucks that I got whats probably a counterfeit for my birthday. but oh well, thanks for the video

Twaskyou sr for the information. Blessings question I. Have somes morgan silver dollar on the weight are 23.67 are real or not. Twaskyou

An amazing fake! How did they make it? Conventional minting? What an effort.

What is the ring test?

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure that 1888 does have a mint mark can't tell what it is but they're look definitely looks like a mint mark might be there

Great info

would it be too much to ask to keep the music out of the background? What purpose it actually serves?

Right, weigh it out take a magnet to it then measure diameter and etc.

More difficult to tell apart, if the counterfeit has had been made with real actual 90% silver, esp. for highly valued old 8-Reales Spanish pillar dollar.

Great video

I knew by the 1 second mark, when you flipped it over, that it was fake. By the sound it made. This is also the first video I have watched that was made with some decent equipment. There are more "FAKE" RU-vid videos about fake silver than there are real ones. LOLOL I wish youtube had a block button. You would have a lot less competition. :o)

good advice for people buying morgans

Where do you get the tool that measures the diameter and thickness of the coin.

Emptor Caveat, especially when shopping on eBay, as well as other places, flea markets, etc...

Didn't watch video yet,, im going weigh it and measure it,also look at morgans from the same year?? Let me know if im right..

I bought five from Temu. The price point is such that I don't care if they're fakes, as they're going on a western gunbelt and holster anyway. If I were collecting coins, it would be an issue. But as decorative pieces, no problem unless it's super obvious.

What the name of the machine??

Mine is close to uncirculated it’s 26.77 magnets don’t stick the dates and other letters look good compared to a real one I’m at 38.9 in diameter and 2.50 in thickness I don’t have a digital reading all I got is the lines on my caliper !

Looks real to me !! I would have been taken if I had purchased that coin. Had no idea that there are fake coins in existence. Who would do that ??

I see you have 4 thumbs down so we know 4 coin crooks watched this ! Dang I wish would have seen this a few years ago . I have so many silver dollars , there is no way I even want to know if I have fake ones or not ! I bought them in good faith , I will sell them the same. The thought makes me sick to my stomach ! Geeze , crooks everywhere !

I have one dollar coin.1887.what is its value

Do they make fakes out of silver? That would make more sense considering silver is cheap and thw value is in the numismatic part?

I have 1 morgan 1883 i put it on the once scale it weight is 1once then i weigh it in grams it weigh at 28 grams.

HEY Beach GOLD Assay THE PART Of Your Video Right At the 12 Min 3 Second Mark,.. Right Where Just Got Done Adding Silver ACID To Both Scratches on Your Stone,,,Where You Say Ok Ill Be Back With Some?? =What Did You Say? Were You After a Paper Towel? Or Some Special Type Of Cloth? I'm Also Asking Because i'm Here Now Testing 4 Morgans Dollars,, Each From a Different Source Yet None Of The Test is TURNING RED?? =When i Wipe Up The ACID With a Typical Kitchen Paper Towel Its Just a Dirty Dark Gray Or Black Spot So I'm Baffled? I'M Even Trying Repeatedly With 2 Different Stones,, Because i'm Unsure Whether, I'm Supposed to Be Using My 2nd Stone which is a Clear Transparent Stone Thinking Maybe That's Specially Made for Silver Only? IDK? There No Packaging With the Clear Stone which i have had Stashed Away Many Years & Never Used it ever Before Till Trying It NOW So Being Unsure i Used My Typical Black Stone Just Like Yours = Using Both Stones to be Sure But Again Nothings Turning RED? Am i Suppose to Use Some Special Cloth instead Of the Typical House Kitchen Paper Towel? Is that WHY?? Or Could the Red ACID Be Stale / Corrupt? Polluted?? From Age being its Approx 7 Years Old? its Been in My Room DesK Draw at Room Temp THE Whole 7 Years Never Outside Never in Garage? ANYONE? Have an Idea Why this Isnt Working? I'm Stumped? THANKS In Advance,

Everything was great until the "ring test". But the music volume at 30 or 40% made it impossible to hear!

I like the ring verifier

WOW! So how is it possible to verify a coin that was graded and placed in a plastic slab, 30 years ago? Obviously these cannot be tested with new technology...so is the "guarantee" of the certified good enough to retain the current value? My concern is due to the coins left to me by my dad...in the plastic 'bricks'...should I sell while the grading companies still exist...or pass them down to my grandchildren that May find they are PHONEY? PLEASE advise those of us who truly don't know the inticracies of differences and don't know who to trust! Thank You!

What I've find out is that silver has a really long ping much softer and loud. Rather Then short and spikey, I honestly don't think that the cameras can read it well, but they definitely sounds different in person.

Would be fun to send the fake into NGC or PCGS just to see if they catch it or not

That person on EBAY was totally traceable and should have been arrested. Telemarketing frauds and scammers on the internet too but obviously those profiting from the scammers want to turn a blind eye.

hi my 1898 morgan dollar passes the thickness and diameter test (i think) but The weight is off by 3 grams but i did a ping test and it certainly sound real

Great video...in the future please leave out the background beats...it defeats the purpose of the ring test demonstration

Wat is the prize for a 1921 no mark Coin

The fake Coins makes a person feel like giving up collecting there are too many fakes, and those can destroy a collectors, confidence and collecting