A history of Islam and science - with Timothy Winter 

Surah/ Chapter Al Imran 54. Wallahu Khairul Makirin ( I am the Best deceiver)// wassalam🤫

@@titikkoma8586 did you read and understand the full quran. Just one single verse cannot give you proper answer. For understanding this verse you need to understand the context of the quran. Just arabic to english doesn't work bro. You have to learn old Arabic Grammer. Grow up 😀😀😀

don't waste your breath on fooled AND deceived individuals misled by OWN HAWA@@etherxi

@@etherxi Watch - The life of Mohammed (According to Islamic sources ).

Yeah yeah and quaran is written as a big metaphoric poem that at the end of the day you can explain however you want and if it makes sense to you then its the right way. We get it buddy @@etherxi

Indeed ❤

Who gave you the authority to judge who knows what they believe in and who does not? Why is that your opinion should be placed above mine? Is that rational to you?

@@user-dh7ls3xf9k never said my opinion is superior. You inferred that just as you Infer randomness 👍

​@@TruRedCRIMEidk why winter's mentioned Bucialle but not Abdus salam who Bucaile called a friend its total hypocrisy ig winters doesn't want a fatwa on his head which is understandable

Exactly. We will see who is right soon

truth

What a funny subjective statement lol

Watch - The life of Mohammed (According to Islamic sources ).

to simpletons yes

Alquran concerning: construction of UFO There is two kinds of vehicle what was in generaly used by human being in the life history in the world, there is: using momentum force like animal, car, airoplane or ship: The other using centrifugal force like flying saucer. Both kinds of this vehicle by sentence 43/12(Alquran) mentioned by flying obyect and animal . The concerned animal is horse, camel, donkey, etcetera. And the flying obyect is all kinds of vehicle realized by human being technology included flying saucer. About flying saucer , by sentence 16/8(Alquran) mention as unknown vehicle by human being during thousands of year, and by sentence 43/12(Alquran) mention everything is in pair that is positive part and negative part of that flying saucer. Because thi sentence 43/12(Alquran) talking about vehicle hence it is of course "in pair" is vehicle also and that vehicle not other than flying saucer with positive part and negative part. وَالْخَيْلَ وَالْبِغَالَ وَالْحَمِيرَ لِتَرْكَبُوهَا وَزِينَةً وَيَخْلُقُ مَا لاَ تَعْلَمُونَ 16/8.And horses, mules, and donkeys for you to ride and use for show; and HE was created other things of which you have knowledge This 16/8 sentence explain vehicle which was usually using by human being, it is of course matter that not yet known is vehicle also. If donkeys and horse is vehicle in the form of pull and push force hence the same situation likes aeroplane and car as carrier. Whether donkeys and horse and car and aeroplane using momentum force to move forward, thats why both vehicle has the same idea. And what is the unknown vehicle in sentence 16/8(Alquran) ? The answered by Alquran is: وَالَّذِي خَلَقَ الْأَزْوَاجَ كُلَّهَا وَجَعَلَ لَكُم مِّنَ الْفُلْكِ وَالْأَنْعَامِ مَا تَرْكَبُونَ 43/12. And HE has created everything in pairs. And HE has made for you which you ride from adrift object and livestock. لِتَسْتَوُوا عَلَى ظُهُورِهِ ثُمَّ تَذْكُرُوا نِعْمَةَ رَبِّكُمْ إِذَا اسْتَوَيْتُمْ عَلَيْهِ وَتَقُولُوا سُبْحانَ الَّذِي سَخَّرَ لَنَا هَذَا وَمَا كُنَّا لَهُ مُقْرِنِينَ 43/13. So that you reside in above its back, then you will think of to enjoy your God when you reside on it and you say "Glory to HIM who circularizing this for us and we are not in one generation. وَإِنَّا إِلَى رَبِّنَا لَمُنقَلِبُونَ 43/14. And we are people to return to our God. If people read this Holy Sentence formation can not found somethings new, but should realize that every Holy sentence is usefull and all interconnected. comprehended Holy Sentence formation above this hence " adrift object " what written on it is vehicle which not yet known at that sentence 16/8. that Holy Formation Sentence let analized in future. Alquran very often explain the orbit and space objects. That motivate everyone to pay attention the Earth rotate, why this planet with other planets circulate the Sun. All that globe not beamed as looked to be, no string and no place hinge. Altogether make a move in a state of adrift free. Only Rawasia (magnetic bar) causing each globe that globular. Rawasia (magnetic bar) turning that planet in the axis while rotate the Sun: Really that Rawasia (magnetic bar) is important things and something which must be researched sciencetis. Given the situation of Rawasia every planet hence formerly Prophet of Ibrahim can defeat one big empire which get across him. Earth which weight predict 600 trillion ton does not fall at the Sun because of centrifugal in orbitting, on the contrary it does not be thrown far go out the orbit line of hold by gravity at the Sun as orbit center. Gravity and centrifugal is equal called Equillibrium, thats why until now Earth which we was inhabited always rotate and circulate the Sun. Now we justly take example : how if the gravity used and centrifugal is negated? The Earth will float far leave the Sun. So that centrifugal can be used to fly far away if gravity eliminated. Finally how to eliminate gravity? It’s way rotate part of aircraft by horizontal. When that rotation faster centrifugal force getting greater and the gravity getting smaller, finally it lose the gravity and the aircraft start flying. Of course people would surprise: how the aircraft can keep rotate without fulcrums? Thats why we named that aircraft Shuttling System that is aircraft likes two disc adjoining attached in the midle as fulcrums: A. The Top part, we name Positive rotate to right, and the edges is getting thicker and havier. B. The Buttom part, we name Negative rotating to left, and the edges is getting thicker and havier. C. Middle Part , we name Neutral, air crew placed and also machine and everythings turning Negative and Positive at the same time. The aircraft can liftup added with explosion from the engine. However that aircraft construction later, let the engineer doit it, and we are sure the aircraft will bulletproof and also waterproof.

But if your not of Islam never mind.

These are basic human society morals, manners that have been recognised through the millennia and expressed in various forms, in many scriptures and traditions. For any dogmatic religiopolitical indoctrination to claim it as their own god-given code is dishonest and clearly intended as propaganda.

Try to make peace between husband & wife (4:128) Oppression/corruption is worse than killing (2:217) Preach to others in a good and wise manner (16:125) Don’t accuse others of immorality without proof (24:4) Don’t call someone a disbeliever without knowing (4:94) Seek permission before entering someone’s room (24:59) Know your enemies can become your close friends (41:34) Don’t wrongly consume the wealth of the vulnerable (4:29) Don’t turn your cheek away from people in arrogance (31:18) Forgive others, as you would like Allah to forgive you (24:22) Don’t hold secret meetings for sin, rather do so for piety (58:9) Don’t order others to do good while forgetting it yourself (2:44) Be patient with your teacher & follow his instructions (18:67-69) Don’t frown, turn away or neglect those who come to you (80:10) If unable to help a needy person, at least speak nice words (17:28) Be lenient to those under you, and consult them in matters (3:159) Verify information from a dubious source before acting upon it (49:6) Those who can should continue to spend on those less fortunate (24:22) Don’t enter homes without permission & return if refused entry (24:27-28) Don’t sit with those who mock religion until they change the subject (4:140) Say it’s not appropriate to talk of slander when it’s mentioned to you (24:16) Divorce in an amicable manner instead of keeping & harming your wife (2:231) Punish in an equivalent manner to how you were harmed or be patient (16:126) Differences in color & language are signs of Allah, not means of superiority (49:13) Don’t take women by force, nor take back bridal gift without a valid reason & live with them in kindness (4:19)💗

Try to make peace between husband & wife (4:128) Oppression/corruption is worse than killing (2:217) Preach to others in a good and wise manner (16:125) Don’t accuse others of immorality without proof (24:4) Don’t call someone a disbeliever without knowing (4:94) Seek permission before entering someone’s room (24:59) Know your enemies can become your close friends (41:34) Don’t wrongly consume the wealth of the vulnerable (4:29) Don’t turn your cheek away from people in arrogance (31:18) Forgive others, as you would like Allah to forgive you (24:22) Don’t hold secret meetings for sin, rather do so for piety (58:9) Don’t order others to do good while forgetting it yourself (2:44) Be patient with your teacher & follow his instructions (18:67-69) Don’t frown, turn away or neglect those who come to you (80:10) If unable to help a needy person, at least speak nice words (17:28) Be lenient to those under you, and consult them in matters (3:159) Verify information from a dubious source before acting upon it (49:6) Those who can should continue to spend on those less fortunate (24:22) Don’t enter homes without permission & return if refused entry (24:27-28) Don’t sit with those who mock religion until they change the subject (4:140) Say it’s not appropriate to talk of slander when it’s mentioned to you (24:16) Divorce in an amicable manner instead of keeping & harming your wife (2:231) Punish in an equivalent manner to how you were harmed or be patient (16:126) Differences in color & language are signs of Allah, not means of superiority (49:13) Don’t take women by force, nor take back bridal gift without a valid reason & live with them in kindness (4:19)

Allah is the Greatest

And today most scientists and so many westerners are revrting to Islam; we are facing economic and population shrinking in the West while the muslim/islamic world is rising again. The wheel of fortune in history keeps spinning. Islam will inevitably be the #1 player in the next centuries

*Why does the political cult and war machine you're promoting have more civil wars and internal conflicts and random jihad than ALL the world's other beliefs combined**??

Go and count the number of Jihad events over the past 20 years = 40,000+++ Lats year in Pakistan x 3 mosques and 160 lost their lives . ..

Let me test your knowledge; so pick a random year half way since the year 2000 to now so we are in 2024, well some are still in the 7th century but for arguments sake .. . now half way back to 2000 in the year 2012 how many civil wars waged on this planet and who fought them? I will give you a clue the political cult with thin veneer of stolen fables and plagiarized myths that started in 2 towns beginning with M and followers are referred to as a word beginning with M

@@HeLpLOstGOdAny1 How is this related to Islam? "Whoever kills an innocent person it is as if he has killed all of humanity.” - [Quran 5:32] If you don't know Islam, then don't discuss it. Have you ever researched the death and destruction of millions and millions of people by United States and its allies? Go and research the massacres caused by non muslim fanatics. I can feel your ignorance.

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Islam and Muslims????????

@@ianmostowy4582 yes, it is about you, Islam and Muslim haters

"blinded by hatred of islam and muslims" You are conflating the two. I hate a hateful ideology, which Islam is, I love Muslims. Nice try thought.

@@lawrencefrost9063 ok. hatred towards islam detected

@@ashimov1970 You're not detecting it. You're generating it.... and intentionally so. We see you.

We are. Everyone is related too. We all share a common ancestor. Every living thing. It's a wild family dinner.

Yeah we are all from the same planet.the problem arises when the ideology you harbour dictates that we should all believe in the one ideology.

Aipac teachers? Please, say more.

As a Muslim you shouldn’t be cursing people.

​@@ehudshapira2745teachers who are in organizations that are backed by Zionist lobby groups and think tanks. They have a strong interest in distorting the history of the Middle East and Islam to demonize Muslims in the West and conceal the true history of how Israel was created.

Youre quite old for a hamster. Whats your routine?

Is Timothy winter a Muslim?

Famous scholar *Robert Briffault* says: "It is highly probable that but for the Arabs modern European civilization would never have arisen at all; it is absolutely certain that but for them, it would not have assumed that character which has enabled it to transcend all previous phases of evolution. For although there is not a single aspect of European growth in which the decisive influence of Islamic culture is not traceable, nowhere is it so clear and momentous as in the genesis of that power which constitutes the paramount distinctive force of the modern world and the supreme source of its victory of natural science and the scientific spirit. … What we call science arose in Europe as a result of a new spirit of inquiry, of new methods of investigation, of the method of experiment, observation, measurement, of the development of mathematics in a form unknown to the Greeks. That spirit and those methods were introduced into the European world by the Arabs." [Robert Briffault, The Making of Humanity, page 191] "Roger Bacon was no more than one of the apostles of Muslim science and method to Christian Europe; and he never wearied of declaring that knowledge of Arabic and Arabic science was for his contemporaries the only way to true knowledge... Science is the most momentous contribution of Arab civilization to the modern world..." (Robert Briffault, The Making of Humanity (London: G. Allen & Unwin Ltd, 1919), 201-202) Historian of science Victor Robinson succinctly summarises the contrast between medieval Europe and Islamic Spain: “Europe was darkened at sunset, Cordova shone with public lamps; Europe was dirty, Cordova built a thousand baths; Europe was covered with vermin, Cordova changed its undergarments daily; Europe lay in mud, Cordova’s streets were paved; Europe’s palaces had smoke-holes in the ceiling, Cordova’s arabesques were exquisite; Europe’s nobility could not sign its name, Cordova’s children went to school; Europe’s monks could not read the baptismal service, Cordova’s teachers created a library of Alexandrian dimensions.” ( Robinson, V. (1936). The Story of Medicine. New York: Tudor Publishing Company, p. 164. )

@@mx8050I assumed so, it’s written in the description

@@speedrvcer yes you’re right I looked for him on RU-vid, he has beautiful speeches there :)

​@@mx8050 Yes, and a very well known one.

Muslims should question Quran !!

@@brucewayne5916 we did many times, but we didn't find an error 💀Some translations may be wacky, sure, but once you investigate it deeply, you find there is literally no error

@@user-dt9qo3sm4z why terrorist organizations across world follow Quran even though Quran suggests peace all they does is no peace so what you say does not match actions!

​@@user-dt9qo3sm4za book with no errors doesn't make it true like Harry potter is one of the greatest fiction books of all time that doesn't mean it's factual

@@Gehri_soch2.0 bro idk what to tell you but you have to experience it for yourself. my sentence is probably misleading.

Incorrect the modern science based world derives from the Judeo Christian heritage . ..What Islam did result of sultans supressing the religious zealots and many of the greater thinkers expressed major doubts and reservations about the political war machine masquerading as a religion.

Indeed Andy, I agree as for the hater that replied to you, ignore them. They are literally lying and sharing misinformation opposite of what Tim Werner shared with us in this video. So why should we trust a random RU-vid comment when the lecturer here is more known and praised. That’s all

@@exiledcowboy298 Name a single lie and back it up with verified sources.

@Marederd ​ Many of 'islam's' great thinkers and observers about reality openly spoke of their unbelief in the nonsense contained within religious texts, to be fair the same happened within Christendom, Bruno, Galileo, Copernicus etc. but Bible was collection of stories, not boasting to be science and revelation of description of reality, islam made many absurd claims based off of the esoteric metaphors of Jewish fables ..

@Marederd The overlap claim you make is erroneous also, islam fell behind 700 years ago by 200 years ago the lagging behind was catastrophic for islamic development in that all technology had to be imported ever since that time, only now with more balanced modern secularized rulers has it decided to drop clinging to bizarre superstitions based on paganism like licking space pebbles or believing devils sleep in your nose, water always being safe too drink or flies safe to swallow etc. .

What your new name brother?

Like you guys ignore how Indian mathematicians developed the "arabic numerals" and the concept of zero and the decimal system. Just claiming it was yours. It was the Indians.

​@@lawrencefrost9063 the one who named it arab numeral were European. Because they were introduced by Arabs.

Overlooked by who? It is in every textbook about the history of science.

​​​​​@@lawrencefrost9063 I don't think that is the case. I am an Indian myself. I greatly appreciate the contribution of the ancient Indian civilization to development of philosophy (especially metaphysics), mathematics and various other fields of knowledge. In fact, I read in a book by a Muslim saint and scholar that as per our belief the prophets were sent to all the regions in the world and many of them have their graves in India itself which he saw with his spiritual vision (as per the text). The civilizations with prophetic sources have been a major source of the knowledge because of their emphasis on the pursuit of spiritual and moral development, knowledge and wisdom over base desires, superstition and immorality. In fact, I have heard a famous Muslim scholar talk about Adi Shankaracharya and other great philosophers. In fact, he motivated others to read those texts. In the view of Islam, the truth about oneness of God has been something that all Prophets throughout history have called people towards. We are required to accept and bring faith on all the prophets that have ever been sent. However, we don't know all of them and if a said figure is one of them we cannot tell in all the cases. And we don't accept that the texts are unaltered and preserve their meaning in letter and spirit. And we believe that with the coming of the Last Prophet Muhammad (peace be unto him) and the Divine Law he brought (the Shariah), the previous religions have been abrogated. Which doesn't mean we don't accept the big contributions of others when it comes to scientific, philosophical or technological development of the world. Therefore, we cannot pursue falsehood by not giving others the credit they deserve. If someone has done something good then it is not right in principle to deny them of that credit. The Islamic Law won't permit us to take the credit of what others have done as this would count as injustice.

​@@wdujsub7902 An example is a World Science Festival lecture I saw last year.

Tim winter?

Tim winter is Abdul Hakim Murad and this is his name after converting to islam.

​@@Humanaut.Note: Abdul Hakim means: servant of THE wise.

Eid Mubarak brother

And where did most of the seeds learning come from? Simple they took it through conquest like everything else Islam has gotten. It was spread through the sword and ginned through the sword, there was no Islamic world till it was made by force and taken from others. Islam is a conanising force like no other before, this is also part of the history of Islam and Islamic scholarship. Did they progress past slaughter and conquest at some point? Yes, most civilisations do else they crumble to dust.

And u see the biases here come to life, people will hate to hate, alhmdulilah for the blessings of ISLAM ❤❤❤❤❤

@@djazairion6200 No they won't The only hate, is the that which you bring.

@@willthecat3861 may Allah guide u ❤️❤️❤️ please do your research before judging, at least start with the QURAN, try to be open minded and I recommend watching the RU-vid channel named: the Muslim lantern 💐❤️❤️

Very thoughtful comment

Elaborate. That was his claim and just because he said it does not necessarily make it so. If you have an opinion then make it known. Do not present a quote Friedrichs and claim it as your own. He also spoke to the value of learning from and not reliving the past. So to quote him is ridiculous.

​@ianmostowy4582 - Who is wanting here to 'reliving the past'? Would you want to burn the previous chapters of history or not allowed to be reminded at all?

But you must also remember that you can't live the 11th century as a current reality. As well as pretending the current Islamism has anything to do with Avicenna and Shirazi.@@autumnicleaf

Seems to me Islam destroyed far more graeco-roman culture than Christianity did both philosophically and artistically. Also not sure how moorish civilisation is closer to European (presumably german) culture than that of Rome & Greece. Europeans have always liked their pretty pictures of the human form and their personification of divinity - which are highly criticised by the islamic/jewish tradition

Many classical giants lauded the Islamic world rich with knowledge. It's only in modernity do we see the erasure of Islam's contribution to the sciences as part of a bigger anti-Islam movement

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If they had cared to listen they would not have come to this situation

We know most of these. We we were not taught that n schools, but we learned it from hearing elders talk among themselves. Spain, Inquisition and the burning of books in addition to the Mongol hordes invasion are common household stories.

​@@ABO-Destiny very closeminded of you to say.

@@ninaaden8338 Why do you say so. I am just articulating some facts which I believe should have been part of discourse within the community. I think people would like to do that without forsaking their faith but thats a dangerous proposition in islam for long. It might have preserved a tight knitted group but that group has lost sight of welfare for uts members due to that. Probably there is better way to put these arguments forward but i hope the message has been received clearly. I had no intention of demeaning someone's faith but i also feel critical discourse is essential for any community

we don't need your opinion

People have brought evil in the name of religion or race. Religions preach peace and humility. Imagine there’s no heaven, imagine there’s no countries

The reason for the hate is probably that he makes no point and basically just says Islam is a pretty rational religion, that there were racists who thought wrong things about Islam (I agree), and finally that Islam is just wonderful. There is no substance here except for maybe some bit of Islamic scientific history.

​@@MustafaAhmed-hn2wj"some bit" is a heavy hearted understatement, how many muslim fathers of fields do you know.

Really? Name one good thing in Islam. I challenge you

@@nogag8219 knowing the real God.

and who are you to tell? man like you are the real problem

@@aijr9856 This is the reason you're destroyed

There was no astronomy in Islam. The 'Golden Age' is fake history

Alot of rumi quotes are actually not attributed to him like consider anything done by Coleman Barks as dubious and to be taken with a massive pinch of salt

If tima winter ascribed the quote to Rumi,then the quote will be one that has a strong claim to be genuine. He's a highly respected, academic scholar.

@@Gehri_soch2.0 We know. Tim Winter especially knows. He's brought up this fact multiple times in multiple lectures.

@@snakejuce I woul appreciate it if you link it

Brother what was quote, if you remember?

His other works are excellent too.

But u gotta do your homework, it's like not studying for the exams and waiting for the results, make some sense brother, May Allah guide u ❤

@@djazairion6200 you too .. we all need guidance.

Dear what's the point to get answers at the day of results, a rational man find and follow the truth now so he can successful the day of results, Death is truth and there is no comparison of an infinite life with this life. May ALLAH SWT help us towards righteous, Aameen

@@raheelameer1356 exactly jazak Allah Khaiir

The truth can be found before then, to give up before even making an attempt is not intelligence but foolishness, you are assuming the answers are out of our reach and beyond the scope of human knowledge, the supernatural may be a realm that most of us can't interact with directly at this point, but that doesn't mean there haven't been men who have in history, men who have been contacted by the maker of all things, and appointed by Him to convey to us the truth of everything.

Hahah and you know what is even crazier MIT is a university and the idea of an University came from the middle east and thats why Napoleon Hill stated in on of the bestselling books of all time "Think and Grow Rich" which was reviewed by Thomas Sugrue that "When Muslim armies entered Jerusalem not a single person was killed because of Muslim's faith. When the crusaders entered the city, centuries later, not a Muslim man, woman or child was spared. But the Christian did accept one Muslim idea--- the place of learning, the university"😂😂😂

Im sure they have a ife

And where did zero and Arabic numerals come from? Do some research before any bold claim.

You invoke a non-existant city that will never work in the long run but run the Saudi-Arabian tyranny into the ground financially?

The numeral system we commonly refer to as "Arabic numerals" actually originated in the Indian subcontinent, not in Arabia as the name might suggest. These numerals were introduced to the Western world by Arab scholars around the 9th century CE, hence the term "Arabic numerals." However, the Arabs themselves had adopted these numerals from Indian mathematicians, who had developed them over centuries. The Indian numeral system, including the concept of zero, had a profound impact on mathematics and commerce. It provided a more efficient way of representing numbers compared to earlier systems, such as Roman numerals. The adoption of these numerals facilitated the development of algebra, calculus, and other branches of mathematics. So, to clarify, while we commonly refer to them as Arabic numerals, their origin lies in the Indian subcontinent, where they were developed and refined over centuries before being transmitted to the Arab world and beyond.

... And the decimal point, don't forget that! 😊

Yep this is how I see it as well. Religion is having faith in the unknown while we strive to know as much as we can through science. -a lover of both Islam and science

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It was one of the most aggressive colonializing forces for centuries ...

@@HeLpLOstGOdAny1 yes, Europe definitely was, but its era is slowly coming to an end now

​@@kingco-bruh7271 No my friend islam, within merely 70 years it had conquered all of north Africa, attacked south the Nubians, although the Nubian defeated them twice but for centuries Islam continued to raid them for slaves despite paying tribute . .. Islam then conquered huge parts of Europe up to Frankia but lost their battle there, then at the same time Bactria (Afghanistan) and surrounding lands all the way to northern India, then carried out many genocides in India for 800 years, essentially its aggression escalated a terrible arms race through fear of it. The Hindus faced having 100,000 killed every year just for entertainment of sultans. Timur had that number of civilians killed in a single day. . . The Africans and Slavs castrated, if karma was real Islam would be shipped off to Mars for the damage done. Throughout that period and escalating in recent decades many internal civil wars drag on, arms dealers love it for all the weapons they can sell to the cult obsessed with death

@@HeLpLOstGOdAny1 I applaud you for giving a historical narrative free of bias, full of nuance and rich in acknowledgement of a wide range of historiographical interpretations. Thank you sir, from just one masterful paragraph on RU-vid, I now know history.👍

@@kingco-bruh7271 Lol, well crush or be crushed as they say, the Romans did it the Mongols also . .

Babies are the future reminding you it already is here.

Ameen🤲

It is not, though. It is true that people have interpreted the text to meet their needs, but a simple reading of the texts and it is clear that it contains evil because it was made up by humans.