A History of Nintendo and Anti-Consumerism 

As it turns out, whilst it seems that Nintendo wanted ARMS to succeed as a competitive game on the surface, in typical Nintendo fashion they also wanted to dictate exactly *how* it was played far too much and ended up going out of their way to severely hamper the game's potential for success in the end. I've linked a Twitlonger that explains as much in the Sources section of the description. Also I just wanna say I'm seeing entirely too many comments expressing this weird, hero-worship sentiment of "man, this company really went downhill once Reggie and Iwata left", like, no, that's not how companies work, lmao. Not to entirely undo their positive contributions to the industry because (particularly in Iwata's case) there's a LOT there, but Iwata was in power during a vast majority of the fangame takedowns and general events discussed in the video (as well as the Nintendo Creators Program, which I can not BELIEVE I failed to mention in this video, look it up) and Reggie was on The Game Awards board in 2016 (and I believe still is) meaning he would definitely have had a say in Pokemon Uranium & AM2R being removed from contention for their awards. Not meaning to slander these people, but also you should take them off your pedestal. It's weird, you don't know them, they're businessmen. The company hasn't fundamentally changed for the worst because 2 guys aren't there anymore, this is how they've always been. EDIT: Somehow people are finding a way to claim that I'm "defending" or "supporting" CptAlex? Which, no, I don't. Perhaps it should have been mentioned that he did not get permission from the family to continue forward with his project, and he has a couple other transgressions to his name that make him a slightly divisive figure, but the section wasn't about CptAlex so I didn't find it relevant. Regardless of CptAlex's actions, I still find Nintendo making legal threats over such a situation pretty reprehensible and that's what that section's about. -Brad #FreeMelee #SaveSmash

Fun fact: If you emulate Devil World for the NES in America Miyamoto will appear behind you and snap your neck.

"dont emulate our games" ok then produce an alternative to piracy and provide a better service ">:( no"

Don't forget, Nintendo were the buggers who created _Region Locking._ Let that sink in for a moment.

Just to be 100% clear, _all "Virtual Console" is emulation._ Every bit of it. The effrontery of their behaviour regarding emulation and modification is just phenomenal.

"Sega does, what Nintendon't"

Nintendo basically said the drift is a feature. Their self-playing games feature sure is handy

Nintendo really is the Disney of Japan. Both companies are geared toward “everyone” and will tear you down if you don’t comply. It’s not that hard to see why Squaresoft wanted to get out from under there thumb back in the day.

"Mother 3 will be a thought crime" Let's fucking *riot.*

I've had idiots in arguments tell me, "The Switch doesn't need voice chat cuz it's a console for kids." EVERY console is for any age. I don't see how Nintendo gets to be the slowest to putting things in their consoles that older consoles have been having for years. That's really the dumbest argument I've heard.

Best part is, they have everything to gain from completely ignoring melee, and they still try to kill it constantly.

People give Nintendo a pass for their dystopian practices because they grew up with Nintendo. Same thing with Disney's and their tyrannical and predatory practices

Best part is people are still gonna buy nintendo games day one, smash dlc, and pretend they're boycotting lmaoooo

"They unknowingly created one of the most enduring competitive games of all time... much to their dismay" lmfao nintendo would love nothing more than for melee to drop dead, which is incredibly sad your games can't be for "everyone" if you actively go out of your way to discriminate against people that play it a certain way

Nintendo is really intriguing as a company. Their developers are really talented and passionate, and some of their games definitely show that and push the industry as a whole; however, their legal team and upper management have grimy practices, all for profits or the threat to profits. From cease & desists and DMCA violations on popular fangames and mods, to limited-time releases to "combat" piracy or drive up cost, to making lackluster collections or online software with the bare-bone essentials, to not rereleasing previous games in any form, to covering up major issues with their hardware. There's a huge divide between their products and their practices, which is unfortunately sad and counterintuitive to their business.

Sakurai himself is actually starting to warm up to the idea of competitive smash since Smash 4. It’s a shame Nintendo hasn’t.

We can also see another example of Nintendo’s anti-consumerism in their denial of access to their official soundtracks. I mean come on Nintendo, there are so many people willing to buy them and it would be a great way to introduce new fans to the classic series but nooooo let’s keep on with the copyright striking...

What’s the deal with having no virtual console, but then selling 3D All Stars for an entire $60? It’s like they both love and hate money at the same time.

What do ya’ know, that “Nintendrone” joke became reality.

I thought the title said “A history of Nintendo and anti-communism”

IP is "Intellectual Property", not "Independent Property"

This video is a banger in every way. Nintendo is mind-bogglingly terrible to its consumers, and are almost actively afraid of making money sometimes while willingly milking money in other ways.

To be fair though, copyright law is corrupt nowadays. It used to be 28 years which already is ridiculously long. But now it's 70 years after the death of the author (unless it got extended again since I last checked), on request by Disney who apparently writes copyright law nowadays. Some people are quick to point out that this motivates authors to produce but they forget that no author can produce anything in a vacuum. No matte rhow motivated, authors need the public domain to produce good things. By drying out the public domain we sabotage authors by production. There's actually a balance to this. The longer the copyright the more incentive, but the shorter the copyright the more possibilities. It's likely that 28 years is already far too long to hit this balance, but 70 years after authors death is beyond crazy. Nintendo has a legal right to shut down all those projects but that's only because the law is corrupt. It's a corrupt legal right. Also noteworthy is that beautiful art existed and was plentiful long before copyright existed. There are many ways to financially benefit from producing art or other works without copyright. In fact, history actually suggests that copyright actually tends to limit art, indicating that the aforementioned balance between providing enough incentive and providing a rich enough public domain to draw inspiration from may be struck with a copyright term of exactly 0 years. But that's copyright when viewed from a solely pragmatic perspective. Copyright contradicts the right to property so ethically there are objections to it as well. Intellectual property does not exist. It's a physical impossibility. E.g. how can you own the concept of Super Mario 64? Where is the concept? we have many instances of the game, but as far as I know there's no magical Platonic world where the perfect essence of the game exists. Unless you can prove that such a metaphysical world exists and that through it's divine powers it powers all our copies, there's no evidence of intellectual property. The proper term is "intellectual monopoly". So-called "intellectual property" is the right to tell other people how they are not allowed to use their own means to production. E.g. Rearranging the bits on my hard disk to create something resembling Super Mario 64 is nothing but me using my own means of production. I would need no special tool from Nintendo to do this. I would need no metaphysical concept of Super Mario 64 because I could do it using my memories, my computer, and my programming skills. They are all mine. But because Nintendo owns an intellectual monopoly on Super Mario 64 they have the corrupt legal right to tell me that I'm not allowed to use my own skills and resources in this way. It's their monopoly. In fact, "intellectual property" was actually called "monopoly" back when it was though up. It's only a while after it was invented that it got rebranded from a "monopoly" to "intellectual property" because the latter sounds more fair. It sounds fairer because it's a different concept that is fairer. Unfortunately few people think it through well enough to realise that and thus most get fooled by the marketing. It's a clever marketing move but it's very disingenuous. I'm not really bashing Nintendo for using their corrupt legal rights. That's the fault of our corrupt government; and in this case also Disney and their hypocritical lobbying. Still, Nintendo is being an asshole about it and the fact that they are doing so using corrupt legal rights does add some insult to injury.

This isn't depressingly bleak or insufferably cynical. It's humor is well-regulated and confident, without too heavily leaning on irony. The voice is clear and the script is concise. This...is a fantastic video. Thank you for making it. You deserve more subscribers.

"Mother 3 becomes a thought crime" punched me in the gut

Youre gonna talk about valve and not acknowledge that they literally let people sell fangames of their own ips for real money on their own platform?

Nintendo: You need a separate app to have voice chat Sony: The dual sense has an integrated microphone in case you don't have a headset

"Nintendo appreciates the love and passion of the fighting game community" lmao no they don't

A friend of mine once said: "Nintendo, as a company that has game development studios under it's command, is marvelous. But talking strictly as a business company, they are horrible towards consumers". And he is right.

The crash/spyro remake was 40$. The Mario collection is fucking 60$

The Switch catalog is 85% WiiU, as a guy you bought the WiiU in 2015, I feel cheated.

"Nintendo keeps doing this anti-comsumerist stuff that would backfire hard on any other company but the developers are seperate from the actual company so I'm still gonna give them my money :)" None of these people realize this mindset is what let's Nintendo (The actual company) keep doing this and get away with it scott free

"I wasn't even a fetus in 1995" oof. Way to make me feel old mate. Lol

This video is the most necessary video ever made about Nintendo's shitty philosophy. Thanks for actually making it, man. I was just thinking about how New Super Mario Bros Wii still goes for full price even today meanwhile I just bought a number of 2020 games on PS4 for $20 a pop

I can tell you Arby's DOES care about their customers, I had a friend that was denied the Meat Mountain by a local store and the online customer support was swift in helping him attain justice.

So basically I’m gonna continue pirating the games.

So apparently a lot of the good business decisions that came out of Nintendo were not due to the lack of sales although that could have played a part, a large part was Satoru Iwata specifically being consumer friendly. Nintendo's poor business decisions were due to their business oriented leadership prior to and following Iwata, but while Iwata was on top Nintendo was at it's most innovative and consumer friendly

they know theyve got their fans by the balls thanks to nostalgia. no matter how much the new pokemon game sucks, it will still sell well. no matter how shitty of a port they make for old mario games, it will still sell well. they know they can do whatever, hence they go out and do whatever. theyre becoming the kanye of video games.

Some small notes: Smash Ult online isn't bad because of P2P, it's bad because it's delay-based. Dedicated servers would be worse. Maybe not in extreme cases of 3+ players that are max distance apart but objectively worse in 1v1s since the distance becomes equal to or longer than P2P would be. Slippi doesn't require a disc. You need the game ISO which can be ripped from a disc like any ROM or downloaded (that's the piracy concern). But Nintendo intentionally uses incorrect info because according the them, you can't make your own ISO from your own disc since they don't authorize you. US software copyright laws prove them wrong. They indirectly reference this specific law by using certain phrasing on their site (the "authorized copy" part) but they just blatantly lie on what that authorization means. The authorization in the law is referring to you authorizing someone to make a copy for you with your disc, like if you didn't have the hardware to do it yourself. Nintendo has no say in the matter but they pretend like they do.

can we also talk about how nintendo is trying to take down youtube videos and channels for uploading the soundtrack of their games, that if they weren’t on youtube, wouldn’t be accesible literally in any way possible?

Seriously, it seems so absurd for me to think that there are people out there who are like "oh, I don't have my GameCube anymore, and the game I had in my childhood that I want to play again has become rare and is just too expensive nowadays, so it would cost me A LOT of money for me to be able to play it (legally) again. I wonder how many more YEARS am I going to have to wait for Nintendo to re-release it in any way, if they ever decide to do it, just so I can acquire it legally and finally be able to play it for probably only a few hours. What? Download it and play it through an emulator? Heavens, no! That's illegal!"

Nintendo somehow has a reputation for milking legacy content (churning out new games of old series, e.g. Pokemon and Mario) without actually letting us enjoy the games that made the legacy that they're milking

And then the day after everything comes out about how they literally hired a bunch of people to stalk a 3DS hacker.

4 guys in their apartments make better online than a massive company bruh

"If they can make money, they will do everything in their power to make as much money as possible." Except rerelease classic titles that literally everybody and their mother wants to play. The thing that I find the most ironic is this; I played AM2R just before playing Samus Returns 3DS. The games aren't similar in any way, other than overarching narrative. Both are great fun and AM2R doesn't encroach at all on SR. Yet Nintendo, in their wisdom, instead of buying the game and making it official, DMCA'd it. Makes absolutely NO sense to me.

Minor correction: Regarding Smash Ultimates online, peer to peer is actually the standard for fighting games because introducing servers causes all manner of problems, so thats not why its online sucks. Its online sucks because it uses delay based netcode that was outdated almost a decade ago.

Actually I would argue Nintendo doesn't actually have the right to take down not-for-profit fan games since they're transformative and doesn't seem to cause any damages. It's just that if the billion dollar company decides to follow through on legal threats it'll be way too costly for any normal person to fight. Seems like an abuse of the legal system. I'm no lawyer though so eh

I'm pretty sure if Ninendo were willing to, they'd send a kill-switch update to the Wii U and Wii, to completely brick their own systems to make sure you ONLY play the switch. I assume the only reason Kill-Switches aren't present in their consoles is because of a law or something. also friendly reminder that Emulators aren't illegal. the ROMs are a legal grey-zone, but Emulation is protected.

I still hate that they took away the scans of old Nintendo Power magazines from the Internet Archive, just to do absolutely nothing with the magazines anyway.

**desperately searches for a .zip of AM2R to stick it to the man**

Piracy actually saved my 3DS, it was dying on dust because 3DS games are still almost full-price and never get steam-like sales

"A history of Nintendo and anti-consumer practices" or something like that would've been a better title.

Joy-con drift is like a ticking time bomb

This means 100x more coming from such a place of frustrated love. Beautiful video. (Also thank you for the kind words at the end there. That seriously made my month)

Personally, the first sign of how corrupt Nintendo became for me was the constant stream of Wii-U-to-Switch ports coming out in lieu of actual new titles. It's scummy as fuck how Nintendo goes out of their way to screw over anyone who actually bought the games when they first came out with new content exclusive to the later versions; you're basically being punished for buying them initially when Nintendo easily could have added the new content to the original versions too.

The reason you don't hear about crunch culture in Nintendo is specifically because that kind of work culture is normal in their eyes. It's depressing, but you'll often hear tales of game devs in Japan sleeping at their desks because they worked late into the night and they can't catch the train back home. Their culture can be summed up by the phrase "the nail that sticks outward gets hammered in." People who make a fuss are forced to conform again through various means.

Nintendo: Please stop emulating our games. Me: But I wanna play older Pokemon and Fire Emblem games, which you aren't profiting off of anymore. If you want my money then give me a way to play those games legally. Nintendo: >:(

It becomes harder and harder to support them as time goes on, which is a shame since I love their games so much.

Honestly, I do not support or respect intellectual property rights as they stand now. The “rights” are so massive and absurdly powerful to reduce creative endeavors, I hate them. _If a company cannot deliver a better product than the fans, they don't deserve anything._ I purchased many Nintendo games over the decades and now I really whish I pirated them. I do think Nintendo hates fan creations because they embarrass them.

Can we also talk about how even when a Nintendo game completely flops the price stays EXACTLY the same as every other Switch game? I feel like this is just a bad business and anti-consumer build because I feel like people wouldn't mind playing a mediocre game if it had a much lower price, but for some reason Paper Mario Color Splash is still priced the same as Origami King, when Origami king is considered vastly the superior (and much newer) game.

Nintendo also removed the capability of being able to backup your game saves locally via an external usb hard drive (or micro usb) something you could do on Wii U. The only way to get a backup of your game saves is to use the Nintendo cloud save features which of course they’ve pay walled behind Nintendo online. Not content with that, they’ve made it so that several of their FIRST PARTY games like splatoon or Pokémon can’t even be backed up online using that feature. Apparently they say that folks will use some exploit to cheat. Somehow Epic and several other developers have figured out a way to make cloud saves work. Yet Nintendo can’t be bothered. Furthermore, they also delisted several of the rereleases from their Wii U shop like DKCR: tropical freeze. They eventually recanted after backlash. But that’s the thanks you get for being a Nintendo fan and supporting the Wii U.

"Our voices need to be heard and address" Na, that thing do shit against nintendo. If the pr lower a bit and the competitive game disappear, nintendo will be the same.The only way to show discomfort is not buying anything of the game.Buy them anyway with a frowny face also does not work.

Nintendo: Good games, bad company. Sega: Mediocre/bad games, but great company. You see the problem, we laugh at Sega but don’t think about their great consumer friendly practices. We “Love” Nintendo but don’t realize that they just care about themselves and the money THEY make, their fans are expendable to them.

Thank you so much for this in-depth video. It's very appreciated after I've seen plenty of people being shocked about Nintendo pulling all these anti-consumer moves last year as if New Nintendo being anti-consumer is somehow a shocking new departure from the way Old Nintendo used to function. They've been like this for years and only now are their actions starting to get widespread attention. Hell, even in the old days they were notorious for bullying other game developers and driving away third parties with very restrictive deals. I can only hope they treat their workers better than their fans these days. A few points: - Some more examples of corporate Nintendo taking down fan projects: The Pokémon Company (partially owned by them) took down a themed party hosted by a fan named Ramar Larkin Jones 5 years ago, pushing him to seek crowdfunding for his legal fees and putting him off organising any more fan parties ever again. Even years before that there was the Zelda fan movie, which also got taken down, and this was when Iwata was still around. So between this and the issue with Melee at EVO, the times before Iwata's passing weren't some kind of golden age of appreciation for fans, despite what some people may think (though Iwata was, of course, still a wonderful leader). Nintendo has also taken down a small business offering real-life Mario-themed karting experiences on the streets of Japan (though given the potential traffic risks and the fact that they were charging for it, this decision makes more sense). - Nintendo's official reasoning for SM3DAS (and presumably FE1) disappearing in March 2021 is because they were only intended for the anniversary, according to what Doug Bowser said in this interview: www.polygon.com/2020/12/17/22180318/nintendo-removing-mario-games-35-anniversary. He also said they had no plans for what would happen after that, but the whole thing seems kind of flimsy to me. - One reason why some of Nintendo's attitudes to online play make me upset is because they, and others, have shown that they can do so much better than that. There's no reason why Fortnite can support proper native voice chat on Switch while the creators of the Switch cannot. Hell, they even know about rollback netcode considering that ARMS has it working properly and the Smash team was apparently considering it at one point for Smash Ultimate, though Sakurai mentioned that it was scrapped for some "adverse side-effects". We'll never know what those were, but we almost got rollback netcode in Smash Ultimate! - Similar to the above, but on Nintendo's attitudes to competitive communities: The Pokémon Company has organised and even sponsored a myriad of official tournaments in the games and TCG, including prize pools (!!!) and they've been open for competitors of all ages, so you could even see children competing in them (and achieving high placings, for what it's worth). I feel that this ironically gets forgotten about in all the discussion of Nintendo's attitude to competitive communities where Smash takes centre stage, which makes it all the more irritating because Nintendo has shown that they can support competitive Smash (and all their other eSport communities for that matter), and do it very effectively. They just don't want to. - The Nintendo Creators' Programme, which defied all the benefits of allowing content creators to freely produce let's plays and related video game content by demanding they hand over a cut of ad revenue to Nintendo. Thankfully this has been revoked, though the "freedom" allowed to RU-vidrs is still somewhat tenuous as can be seen from takedowns of some Nintendo-related videos like the Boundary Break one last year, and randomly dropping RU-vidrs from their ambassador's programme without any explanation. Also, the soundtrack uploads on RU-vid that they keep taking down (which is why I mainly use SoundCloud for listening to video game OSTs now, as well as it being way easier than RU-vid). - Not even Twitch is safe sometimes. Last year, Nintendo banned Twitch streamers who were streaming Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity in the early hours before the US release when they purchased the game legally in regions where it came out a bit earlier, such as Australia and Japan. - Nintendo never publicly stated that Joy-Con drift wasn't a problem in public and that information only comes from a message from the lawyers arguing against them in court who asked for the video evidence. This was after Nintendo's president publicly apologised for Joy-Con drift. This either means that the opposing lawyers were misrepresenting Nintendo or that they continued to have their lawyers argue against taking real change in court while pretending to commit to solving the problem in public, which doesn't really paint a good picture of how they operate. - On the topic of clunky controls in SM3DAS, several of Nintendo's games have drawn criticism for being inaccessible to disabled gamers. One prominent example is Pokémon Let's Go, where the motion controls for Pokémon catching prevent disabled fans from being able to play but can't be turned off because of "immersion". - In the same vein as the blocked EarthBound book, Nintendo of Japan stopped a pitch for an Archie Super Mario comic book series by Ian Flynn, the same guy behind the Mega Man and Sonic comics, effectively killing the project and preventing it from ever reaching fruition. Nintendo of America liked it though, while the guy himself doesn't seem to take too much issue with this, and has admitted that the initial pitch had some flaws in its portrayal of the Mario series in his view. You can read more about it here: twitter.com/IanFlynnBKC/status/1166822538242117633 - The creator of Fire Emblem, Shouzou Kaga, fell out with Nintendo after the release of Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 and left Intelligent Systems to make his own spiritual successor, Emblem Saga, for PlayStation. This was before Keiji Inafune and Koji Igarashi did the whole "leaving parent company to make spiritual successor" thing. In response, Nintendo sued him multiple times for copyright infringement, even after he changed the name to Tear Ring Saga and removed all references to the original series, and basically Unpersoned him from any mention of the series' origins to date. - Nintendo ignores blatant ripoffs of their games that are clearly intended as cashgrabs while taking down fan games that are intended to be labours of love, as you said. This isn't as big of an issue to me considering that the smaller bootlegs are probably too tiny to even get noticed by the corporate bigwigs, but just putting that out there. - Another smaller-scale issue would be Nintendo's heavy use of the gacha model in their mobile games, which has received its fair share of accusations of being manipulative and exploitative. It's pretty close to gambling but marketable to all ages. Now this isn't a solely Nintendo issue and many Japanese mobile games linked to major franchises like DBZ, Final Fantasy and One Piece use this model, and of course the quality of these games and the extent of their shadier aspects has varied. It's bad only if you engage heavily in the microtransactions (which I stay clear of) but the risk is there. - One of the Project M devs compiled a long list of articles, posts and videos on Nintendo's various transgressions in a blog post, which can be viewed at press-z-or-r-twice.blogspot.com/2020/12/accounts-of-nintendos-crimes-against.html. Your video is linked from there, along with far more examples than one could fit in a RU-vid comment like this one. I disagree with hardcore Nintendo fanboys who want to defend them for everything, but I think I can understand where they're coming from, as Nintendo makes good games that they've grown attached to and then become tied to their identity. They then experience a kind of denial upon hearing how scummy Nintendo is as a business, because Nintendo the business and Nintendo the creators have become interlinked, and the love they carry for the games has imprinted onto the corporate side itself, so they feel the need to defend Nintendo on everything they've done. Seeing the widespread reactions to Nintendo's anti-consumer moves last year honestly reminded myself of the time I first realised they weren't the rosy, friendly creators I thought they were when I saw them mistreating RU-vidrs and taking down fan parties. That was when I learned to separate Nintendo's unsavoury actions as a business from my opinions on Nintendo as creators, and I hope these people learn to do the same. At this point I don't know if complaining online will do anything, considering that they've met with this kind of backlash before after some of their previous decisions and rode it out without changing their ways on the basis of their strong reputation. One can only hope that the large-scale criticism they got this time around will push them solidly into making a change. Hell, I still like Nintendo's games a lot, which is why I really want them to change and be better than this. Anyway, buying used games is still a available option for if you still want to play the games but not send money to the creators, and just because Nintendo's taken down a few sites doesn't mean emulation is gone for good. If you're a fan of the games but not the business, all the games can be obtained without sending a single cent into their coffers. I do have concerns about the effectiveness of boycotting to solve a more overall problem with the way they operate as a business, considering that gamer boycotts rarely work and Nintendo would be likely to interpret the boycott as occurring because of a problem with the specific product rather than their general business practices, but businesses respond to money and I've gotten too tired of venting on Twitter and just seeing more of this crap come from them to want to do it any more.

After sword and shield they probably realized that no matter how poorly they treat their customers people are still going to buy their shit

The real crime was that Nintendo didn't celebrate F-Zero's 30th Anniversary.!

A genuine love letter for a belove franchise, in a form of fangame: "DELETE THIS." A bootleg, that literally rips off the original game's code for cheap money: "This is fine actually! I don't care anymore!"

I’m not a graphics nerd, I don’t even notice emulation issues, and some of these topics I never even hear of until they suddenly came up. Me, I’m in the boat that’s like, “thank God they haven’t gone back to the Creators Program!” That damn program is the whole reason I can’t LP any handheld games

Fudj, not to rock the boat or anything, but maybe you get more views on videos like these because you are a really, REALLY good critic? I mean I understand that maybe you want to be silly funny internetman but I guess I'm just playing devil's advocate here: maybe stick with what you're good at? Because this video was SO awesome and informative, it even included some things that I wasn't even aware of Nintendo doing, and that makes me even more motivated to rise and overthrow this boomer company. That isn't to say I haven't enjoyed your other videos, I have. Just trying to out in my two-sense on what I think is a great channel. Honestly? Just make whatever you want and we will all probably love it. And if we don't then you got to make something that YOU liked, and that's valid enough.

Ah Nintendo, if you play their games the exact way they want them to, the games are great, but wanting a minor deviation and they banish you to the shadow realm.

"switch online is cheaper than its competitors" Steam is free

This is why i always say, "I like nintendo when they're failing." It is when they offer good deals and try new ideas for their games and hardware. When they are doing great they kind of just rest on their laurels. The Switch came out swinging so hard because they had to after the wiiu now that it is doing well they've kind of just... stopped swinging.

Maximillian Dood pointed out development philosophy that Japanese Fighting game companies have that makes then not want to use rollback netcode in games, because they dislike using things they didn't come up with themselves. Nintendo seems to have a similar mindset. Same with the Pokémon company as well. Hell remember the imfamous artist block that made it so that Flygon got no Mega evolution despite tons of ideas being out there.

Considering the fact that Project M was the main reason I even bought a copy of brawl in the first place, it has always been very weird to me how fervently nintendo go after fan made projects considering I essentially gave them money for a game that I had no intention of buying in the first place had it not been for the fans of the previous game they left behind. Their armchair lawyers at home can say whatever they want about the legality of the whole thing but personally speaking, I can't help but feel like these efforts could end up making them more money than losing it if they just embraced it more.

I'm sure this has been commented somewhere down below already, but I'm writing it anyways. Take the following with a grain of salt, because I'm basing this on memory from when I was in school several years ago. From what I remember learning about Japanese business culture, the way they make things and how they view them after release is generally very different from Westerners. Westerners are generally much more forgiving when people modify and innovate on their creations, especially it seems, with video games. We see it as innovation, and taking our ideas to the next level to make them as good as they can be. When Japanese people or companies make something, in their eyes, the way they made it is the way it is meant to be enjoyed. Their way is the best and only way to use a product. A fan-remake of Metroid 2, or a totally new Pokemon game made from the ground up, doesn't fly in their eyes because these fans have "taken" their ideas and screwed them all up. These aren't the "proper" ways to enjoy Metroid 2 or Pokemon. Any changes to their creations are a blight on their product, not an improvement, even if they are indeed objectively better. The same things also apply to Slippi and Melee. Since it's still a modification of Melee, they think it's "wrong." It's similar to how little kids get angry when you start building with their blocks or legos or whatever. Even if you know how to build way cooler stuff with their legos, or you make their little lego racecar better, they throw a tantrum anyways, because "you built it wrong." It wasn't the way they envisioned it, so to them, you've messed it all up. I am not at all defending Nintendo's abuse of their legal power here. Just because they have the rights to their own creations doesn't make it right for them to shut down so many fans. I'm just hoping to give a little insight into Nintendo's and the Japanese people's thought-process.

The switch generation has me actively hating Nintendo and looking elsewhere for gaming. They began charging people for their unplayable online, 3 years later it's still just as bad. They insisted in court that joycon drift didn't exist, still charge ridiculous amounts for their hardware and games that can be found on other platforms for drastically reduced prices. People need to stop paying premium prices for subpar service.

As a huge fan of this channel, Fudj- I know you want to make goofy content that’s lighthearted and wacky, and I completely respect that. In fact I avidly watch for your new releases and enjoy your videos regardless of their content, and enjoy your dry humor. (I have only you to thank for the realization that Antonio is, without a doubt, the best animal crossing villager.) But... *something* about these analytical ones. Both this and the competitive failings of smash video were so well done and speak such truth into communities that too often can get caught up in just mindlessly buying the games of Nintendo without truly acknowledging their imperfections and shortcomings. I make no exaggeration when I say the stuff you put on this channel has singlehandedly stopped me being a “simp” for Nintendo, for lack of a better word. I’m totally down to continue watching your channel, no matter what it ends up becoming, I’m really happy to see this channel growing. But know that your voice among all the others against Nintendo is *one of the loudest, most pointed and valuable we have.* Keep it up, and good luck 👍👍

Major respect for creating this video. It takes recent events around #FreeMelee that I have been witnessing and puts it into context with Nintendo's broader history of frustrating consumer relations. And hey, it's funny! You did funnies! I audibly cackled at the salt & pepper joke. As a Project M player myself (and the head of a yearly rankings project, PMRank) I especially appreciate the section discussing that. The good news is that people still play the game and some regions are still holding online tournaments even without rollback netcode. It's gonna take more than a global pandemic and a hostile gazillion-dollar corporate entity to stop us from enjoying this game.

If you've got a switch lite & drift you're screwed. If you put your console in for repairs they factory reset your console while repairing it. To avoid losing... everything, they say you have to buy Switch Online storage or transfer to another console but even then they can't guarantee how long it'll stay fixed

virgin Nintendo: "don't emulate our games 😤" Chad valve: "do whatever you want with the steam deck, it's yours 💪"

Did you know Nintendo stalked a person due to having homebrew on his ds. Called him a target. That is scary, this is a scary thought

That Nintendrone joke is the peak of revealing Nintendo's true goal.

Nintendo is kind of like my puppy, he takes his toy from my older dog, then doesn’t use it himself

The weird thing is that in Japan, I can STILL walk into a department store today and buy a brand new Famicom Mini and Super Famicom Mini meanwhile in America both were sold out just filling pre-orders.

Nintendo not liking that smash is competitive is just ridiculous, I can only theorize that a higher-up has envisioned smash as a casual party game for small kids, and people can’t deviate from this vision because it hurts this higher-up's ego.

Man I miss the Wii U era. Yes, it was a failure for Nintendo, but it was great being a Nintendo fan at the time. All their best selling games got labeled as “Nintendo Selects” and were priced at $20. Free online. Good eshop. So many consumer-friendly things. Now that they’re successful with the Switch, they don’t need to be consumer friendly and have since dropped many of these features. It’s disappointing. I miss being a Nintendo fan in the Wii U era.

Your comparison to Disney is more on the nose than you may know: Yamauchi famously saw Disney World and was inspired to shape Nintendo to become Japan’s own answer to Disney, with the hope that Nintendo would someday have its own amusement parks, etc. Nintendo has continued to behave like Disney ever since, whether purposefully or coincidentally.

"Mother 3 becomes a thought crime." Best sentence.

One thing. Owning an emulator isn't illegal due to legal precedent set back in the 90's where a judge allowed play station one emulation software to be sold commercially. Getting roms or other game files from the internet for free is though. However; dumping game files from games you own and even circumventing copy protection to create archival copies "should" be legal due to precedent set when the motion picture association went after people doing the same thing with their DVDs and VHS tapes. However, the particulars of the ruling are pretty self contradictory and we'll never know for sure until someone actually fights it out in court.

The worst part of this video is that it eventually ends. I love hearing the rightful Nintendo criticisms.

Missing from this video: Spiteful Wii updates that explicitly caused the console to BRICK when players used homebrew software (which worked perfectly fine before update and was no danger to run, the update was intentionally causing the permanent system crash, not the homebrew) for no other reason than to take tripping out of Super Smash: Brawl and the only fix was to send it to nintendo for a $80 repair bill

Thing is, Nintendo doesn't need to justify its actions. It has countless extremist fans making up excuses for them despite the fact that they themselves get screwed over.

When it comes to limited releases, I feel like no talks about mythical legendaries in pokemon, they’re there too also make people buy the game in the first month and it makes my save file feel too sacred to overwrite if I want to replay the games.

"I have faith in them" Hmm... We will see about that in 10 years. They are a corporation after all.

Nintendo's Pros: Great games Nintendo's Cons: Pretty much everything else

One minor discrepancy towards the front of the video. Nintendo did re-release Galaxy. It's on the Wii U eShop. Sunshine however, has never seen a re-release on anything ever outside 3D All Stars.

Perry PorkchoP here, just wanna say this is a fantastic video! It was definitely different for you but I appreciate you making it. And if I can be childish for a second, hearing you say my username made me very happy. You’re one of my favorite content creators right now and it makes me happy that i can help support your channel. Have a good one!

I think that one of the main problems here is the fact that Nintendo's audience consists of lots of casual players. Nintendo youtubers forget about this group and think they are the main demographic. The casual audience won't notice these problems, so Nintendo ignores them. If every Nintendo fan was as dedicated as the community, maybe these problems would be fixed. It makes sense that Nintendo is ignoring the vocal minority. I suspect most players don't even get to the end of the main story, as so many of them are young children, and children don't think about these problems. If you want to, you can continue my point as a reply to this comment.

I find that last comment about Nintendo being Japanese and thus having a different culture and mindset interesting. I've noticed that many of the more consumer-friendly companies tend to be western ones (of the three current console manufacturers, Microsoft seems to be the most consumer-friendly), but I get worried then because being consumer-friendly doesn't always equal success, and so there's an incentive to be shitty to your fans.

Smash being p2p isnt the issue (every fighting game is p2p), its them using delay-based netcode instead of rollback. sakurai said 4 player rollback was too hard lmao, btw hey guess what game had 4 player rollback in 2012? PLAYSTATION ALL STARS BATTLE ROYALE