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You guys realise that the Principality of Theodoro has nothing to do with Ukrainian History but with Greece? Just because Crimea is de facto part of Ukraine doesn't give them free access to History of other cultures like the Greeks. But I saw what you did there when you mention how St.Stephen the Great sent *Wallachian soldiers to help out😉
This was great! Please do more videos about Trebizond and the Pontic region. I find the history of the successor states after 1204 particularly interesting, in terms of how they saw themselves and how they each tried to continue the legacy of the byzantine state, what their challenges and geographic circumstances were, and what life was like for ordinary people living in Trebizond, Epirus and Nicaea. Basically, the contrast and development of these states is really interesting a topic, I think. Any talk of continuity is always referred to through Nicaea, which would go on to restore the empire, but the perspective of Epirus and Trebizond and how they each managed their successor states, is an underappreciated chapter in byzantine history.
Glad you enjoyed it. I shall do 'A History of ' video for Epirus, Trebizond, the Latin Empire and several of the smaller breakaway princedoms in the future.
This is the most detailed source of information on the Principality of Theodoro that I’ve ever seen!! Brilliantly done, thank you so much for making this! I’m designing a DnD campaign based loosely on the Fall of Theodoro taking place in a land that I’m modeling a lot after it in its final years. Because it’s such an obscure event nowadays they’re none the wiser to its origins, and this video gives me some great material to work with!
If the Khovra are indeed part of the Gabrades family then yes, Theodore would be one of their ancestors. I know Anthony Bryer has conjectured that the Gabrades may have moved to Gothia after the second fall of Sinope after the death of Manuel I Grand Komnenos since they are known to have been the governor of the city at that time.
1475 when the last medieval Greek Principality of Theodoro fell! 1800 when the first autonomous Greek state (Repubblica Settinsulare Επτάνησος Πολιτεία) formed. Exactly 325 years the Greek world fell under the tyrranical occupation of the Turks.
@@morewi Russia will prevail and win and that's fact. You can create propaganda and censor all you want, weak females play with words real men take action.
Ha ha you say Crimea is Russian, but your image avatar I think would say that there is no Russia, only future living space for Germans. Shows how ignorant you are on history
Out of interest, how aware were Byzantine emperors of their Roman predecessors? For example, take a Palaiologos emperor, how aware would they be of the Roman emperors and subsequent Byzantine emperors?
Speaking of educated Eastern Romans, since they are the only people we have sources from, that people like Theodore Metochites and Nikephoros Gregoras were very aware of their past. The latter even called ALexios Philanthopenos another Belisarius, implying he had read a history such as Procopius of Malalas. In the recording of Constantine XI's speech by Leonard of CHios, he brings up quite a lot of Roman history.
One of my favorite countries. As your video describes they have a tough start. The Crimean khanate May declare war within several months of starting the game. If Crimean gets conquered or loses a war Theodoro could be transferred as a subject to Kazan, the Great Horde, or Nogay. You can only really brute force Crimea and then conquer Georgia and Circassia. From there you might conquer Caspian states like shirvan, mazandaran, and puts east to India. You can vassalize countries though without a cb. I used this with East Frisia to join the Holy Roman Empire, which gives you protection from the emperor. You could then use the positioning to go colonial or keep your Pontic lands and dominate Asia. Because of the unique challenges of the start and identity of Crimean Goths it’s a worthwhile campaign; I think forming Rome as theodoro should be an achievement.
Yeah! They resisted everyone. They were pagans when the Roman Christians wanted to rule them. They were Orthodox when the Ottomans wanted to rule them. They were Greeks when the Venetians wanted to rule them. They were Free when the Greeks wanted to rule them. Good ol’ mountain boys.
You are confused and can't distinguish between historically important land where modern Ukraine s (completely another empire developed) and new entity, modern Ukraine as a sovereign country. As if Roman Empire is same as modern countries on its territory.
Most informative but it once again shows that states are made or unmade by force alone and questions of right or wrong have very little to do with matters.
You are not wrong, I highly doubt this or any vid on RU-vid will change Mr. Putin’s mind on the subject lol. It’s more to show that Putin’s cassis belli is complete nonsense.
Always fascinating the history of Byzantine states. I've always wondered since Constantinople was a Greek speaking region. And Latin gave way to Greek. How did it play out after the conquest of the Ottomans who were Turk speakers. Or did it turn into a bilingual situation? Did the Ottomans retain Greek speakers in their court?
I know Mehmed II settled lots of people in Constantinople after 1453 to repopulate the city. Unfortunately, Ottoman history is not something I know all that much about.
Thank you very much. I suspect the poem about the Matthew of Khazaria. I found it in The Goths of Crimea by Alexander Vasiliev and included the part he translated because it was hard to find. The whole translated part is typed out in the video if that helps but the rest is in Greek. I am glad you liked it.
Excellent! So glad to get to know you in the #projectukraine! And thanks so much for the flag! So you would say that the principality was mostly populated by helenized goths? Or was there also a fair share of other ethnicities?
An absolute pleasure. The sources suggest that the region was very mixed, with Tartars, Goths, Greeks, Italians, Slavs. The ruling class were Greek speaking Goths but quite a few Tartarised names show up.
@@EasternRomanHistory the video was generally good...but.. you start by "the history of principality of Theodoro starts with the arrival of the Goths". Well..no. The cities of the coast were all established and inhabited for centuries by Greeks and Roman rule was present. Principality of Theodoro was actually a byzantine micro-state, a branch of Trebizond which was a branch of the Roman (byzantine) empire. It used to be the byzantine "Thema Cherson" for some 500 years and then "Perateia" of the empire of Trebizond( which means "opposite coast"). It is true that some gothic speaking minority survived well to the 16th cent., but the name "Gothia" was mostly the name of the Bishopry. The influence of the tatars is well attested , as well as the multi-ethnic character, but if we should name the principality in terms of culture and as a whole that would be "byzantine". The official language was greek, religion christian Orthodoxy, ruling family the Gabras from Trebizond, symbol the double head Eagle. You present it as if a bunch of 3th century Goths were having their fun time 1000 years after the Great Migration.
This History shouldn't be represented neither as Ukrainian nor Russian. The Principality of Theodoro was a Greek Principality in the Crimean Peninsula who was the successor state of the ERE. This is completely bullshit
Ukraine has such a rich ethnic history. Iranic Nomadic Scythians,Sarmatians and Alans, Gothic tribes, Slavic Tribes, Turkic and Mongolic peoples and Caucasian tribes and the Cossacks who were a mix of all these people(though mainly slavic).
Перемога - це як найраніше зробити семантично-культурну революцію в колективному несвідомому людей, визначитися з дефініціями, особливо російськомовного контингенту: Русь - русин - русский, Беларусь - беларусин - беларусский, Россия - россиянин ( если этнос - московит) - российский язык. Задля того, щоб запобігти плутанині західного світу з назвою Русь - треба активно розповсюдживати не транслітераційний варіант "Rus", а її переклад "Ruthenia", для початку твердо імплементувати це в нашому суспільстві. Не розумію, чому ми перекладаємо наші імена, а не пишемо "Мырослав Тымощук", наприклад, мій особистий біль - це транслітерація літери "Г", так як ми користуємось кирилицею, вважаю неправильним транслітерувати її у вигляді "Н", як це є в латинських західнослов'янських абетках, яка є німецького формату, адже загальна мова транслітерації є англійська, в якій звук "г" мав би бути транслітерований за прикладом к(k) - х(kh), отже ґ(g) - г(gh), що ліквідує фонетичну плутанину, та підкреслить кириличну особливість.
Turkic rule in Ukraine is actually way longer than Slavic rule in Ukraine. Turkic empires ruled Ukraine 1000+ years Hunnic Empire, Onogurs, Utigurs, Kutrigurs, Saragurs, Avar Khaganate, Old Great Bulgaria, First Bulgarian Empire, Khazar Empire, Pecheneg Khanate, Cumania, Golden Horde aka Kipchak Khanate, Crimean Khanate, Ottoman Empire and others while Slavic rule on Ukraine is not even 500 years old Cossack Hetmanate, Tsardom of Russia, Russian Empire, Soviet Union and Russia/Ukraine