Y'know, that Border War actually gives really important context to the Zimmerman Telegram - specifically, why the Germans might have thought Mexico might be up for it.
Yeah, I've always wondered why Germany thought Mexico would want to be involved in a global conflict, with the US no less. That actually makes a lot of sense.
@@TheBossBros73 yea, and while Carranza liked the idea, he ultimately stuck with his generals and said no. History Matters did a good job explaining why Mexico said no. Points 1 and 2 are the same, as Germany couldn't give Mexico any military equipment and economic trade due to the naval blockade by the UK. Best they could do is military advisor. Point 3. A war in multiple fronts would not end well for Carranza. It's bad enough they were in a civil war, but fighting the US. Yea, not a recipe for success. Point 4. Surprisingly, Mexico's economy was still stable. Especially their oil exports. If they get block, it would have made the Revolution way worse because everyone is suffering economically. 4.5. This wasn't talked in the video, but another vid explained that Mexico was supporting Britain with oil. If Mexico were to join the Central Powers and fight the US, they would Scorch Earth to deny the US any lands and resources, including the oil. So yea, Britian also wouldn't like that at all for their navy. Plus Carranza, when he heard Wilson was possibly going to invade again for the Tampico oil fields in the shortest distance between the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific Ocean, he threatened to have them destroyed. 5. Even if Mexico somehow overcom all of these, there was the issue that they couldn't win. The Tampico Affair was very poor diplomatic incident that lead to the Battle of Veracruz. The US won and occupied the city of about 6 months. And then came the Battle of Both Nogales, which is where the infamous picture of the US-Mexican border was taken. So Mexico did a good job of avoiding WW1. And narrowly avoiding the escalation of the Border War to the 2nd Mexican-American War. But some can argue the Border War can be seen as the unofficial front in the war.
@@phreak811 and I'm the nut that learned it from daffy from the loonie tunes so I always remember it as "on land as on the sea" from before the change to include air corps
Fun fact: the name Seminole means "runaway," as the tribe wasn't a tribe in the traditional sense, but a diverse community of Native peoples that had been driven into Florida from other southern states as Americans expanded beyond the coastlines and major rivers of the southern states.
Note the mention of the Creek Indians fighting with non-Native American American forced, which is only mentioned once and glossed over by the reviewer.
I'd be really interested to see you cover "The Election That Ruined Everything (And If It Never Happened)" , also by Alternate History Hub. It's a real interesting look at the Woodrow Wilson presidency and the massive effect that it had on the 20th century and how little people realize how much Wilson's policies still influence us to this day.
You mean if TR weren’t so greedy for office that he split the Republican Party and gave the election too Wilson. That guy who shot McKinley had a lot to do with changing American politics. Roosevelt might not have become president, or would have been a different kind of president if elected in 1904. In that case, he would have got that second full term in 1912. In which case he would have been president in 1914 and likely would have involved us in the war after the sinking of the Lusitania. That might have given the German’s pause in the days before Hindenburg and Ludendorf because virtually dictators in Germany.
Just got chills when I realized " to the shores of Tripoli " line of the Marine Corp Hymn came from the Barbary Wars. Ive heard that line over and over throughout the years but never really put much thought into it. Cool history
Alan Friesen I was going to mention that one as well - it’s where U.S. Marine MoH recipients Dan Daly and Smedly Butler really got a lot of warfighting experience.
America: hey you. That's not very freedom of you! Chaquita banana: I got bananas here take some. Also america: ok fine do what you want. Sam o'nella did a really good video about this and yes i stole his joke
Regarding the border war, early on a young Patton had the bright idea of strapping a machine gun to the back of a truck. And so one of the greatest tank generals in world history got his start.
Hey check out the three-part list of every war the US has ever been in that Beau of the Fifth Column did for this past Veterans Day. Interesting stuff, and along this same line.
Staraptor Flock America bad. America do bad and other country do bad, America always worse no matter what rawr I have the intellectual competence of a 6 year old rawr
@@notechb0ss2.05 ah yes, because acknowledging awful things that the United States has done automatically makes one an intellectually incompetent troglodyte, blind nationalistic fervor is the only way to go
Oh boy, I wish one day we get to see an oversimplified video about the Mexican Revolution because I've never seen a war with that much betrayal, so many different armies, weird politics, weird battles, weird overall it'll be great
The treaty that concluded one of the Barbary Wars is actually a fairly important part of constitutional history as it contains a clear statement from the time of the Founding Fathers that the US is a nation not founded upon any specific religion. As such it is sometimes referred to when this notion is challenged by religious groups.
The Barbary wars is where the Monroe Doctrine came from also where the line "the US is not a Christian nation" was written in the Treaty of Tripoli originated.
my family is mexican and as such so am i, and i find all my information about mexico from my mexican relatives, whenever i asked my teachers about mexican history they rarely knew anything except major conflicts against the US. like how mexico participated in the world wars. History classes could use a little more time explaining foreign conflicts as a contrast to american conflicts so we have a more well-rounded understanding
That civil war we call Revolution was pretty chill, Porfirio Diaz Stepped down after some battle, Francisco I. Madero was in power but weak, everything went to shit after the U.S. embassador made a deal with Victoriano Huerta to support his coup and recognize his "presidency", this triggered the second part of the revolution and shit went all Game of Thrones from there, now you know
I knew the Barbary Wars would be on this list. Most Americans aren’t taught this. However anyone one who served, esp in the USMC, know this history. This is where the term leather neck comes for Marines.
Constitutionally, you didn't need a declaration of war. You have 2 options. Either the declaration or "Letters of Marque & Reprisal". The latter was used in the Barbary Wars.
If I had lessons like this in school, I might have actually learned about history. I hope this becomes normal, fun videos while the history teacher pauses and reacts
"I don't know about this... Awesome!" I love the attitude. I've only discovered this channel a week or so ago but I've been binging your content hard. And it's that attitude that makes you worth watching!
As an Oklahoman, I kinda just expected most Americans knew about the Seminole war. Didn't even think that that was mainly an Oklahoma thing to learn about.
You do know, don’t you that few Americans don’t know that General Sherman took part personally in the war against the Comanches, the toughest of Plains indians.
Hey Mr Terry! I love you America! You should do a reaction video of me. Napoleon was the bane of my existence, a dictator masquerading as a democratic leader. In the end he killed 3 million. I helped Washington and my legacy is the US.
I knew the Barbary Wars because I was in NJROTC at Stephen Decatur High which was named after one of the captains that was involved in those wars. One of the tests to advance in rank was all on captain Stephen Decatur.
I've heard bits and pieces of these before, but it's so much better to have context to them. Barbary Wars I knew were a thing by name, but had no idea what they were. Seminole War I'd heard about as a kid (we had a lot of info about Native American tribes thrown at us in Boy Scouts), but without the historical context of who was President, that the US was invading Spanish territory to do it, or what initiated it. The Border War I vaguely knew about from references to the Zimmerman Telegram, and that one I may go looking for more info on soon just because the quick pass over it here left me wanting to know more. Ironically, a skirmish with North Korea did come to mind for this list, but not that one - Operation Paul Bunyan, where North Korean border guards killed US soldiers who were trying to cut down a tree in the DMZ that was obstructing their observation post and the US retaliated with a large force sent to take out the tree. I would love to see someone do a series covering all the wars that the US has been a part of with enough depth to get a sense of each war. It's a huge enough list for an entire channel dedicated to that - 92 going off Wikipedia's list (which treats things like the First, Second and Third Seminole Wars separately). Feel free to steal that idea, aspiring RU-vidrs.
Our textbooks in high school mentioned both the Barbary wars (mostly to talk about the Monroe doctrine) and the Seminole wars (mostly a blip to talk about the trail of tears). Both were very short, perhaps a paragraph or two, but I was lucky that I had a history teacher named Mr.Bove (for middle school as well, he got the HS job later when another great teacher retired) who was similar to Mr.Terry were he would "react" to the textbook and expand greatly on the information there (he was very passionate) which is likely why I remember both of such things. Similar story with other fairly obscure (at least I perceive to be obscure to those of us who never went to college) events such as the XYZ affair and the tariff of abominations, (just a couple strong memories off the top of my head, there was many such as these) where they are only mentioned as a blip in the textbook but we would get a decent lecture about them, their background, consequences, and how important they were to the other events we were learning about.
I'm from Mexico and the mexican-american war is something they teach in history class even in elementary (at least 10 years ago). Good video as always :).
We learn about the annexation of Texas and the Mexican War in the early 1800s in the US as well, but it's mostly used as buildup to our own Civil War. The addition of Texas and California as states and the addition of so much new territory pretty much threw gasoline on the fire that was the slavery debate in the US.
There’s actually a show based on the ‘border war’it’s on Hulu and it’s called ‘The Son’ it’s a great series and it also has flashbacks from 1849 during the times of the Texas rangers and Camache Indians... a must watch, I highly recommend it
You should look at Overly Sarcastic Productions History videos. Their series on China is really good, especially the Hong Kong one. Their Venice video is also great!
I'm from Florida and the Seminole wars (Both 1 and 2) were heavily discussed in our class in both American and World history class. Chief Osceola is regarded as both a hero and rebel in the war (which they named a county after him and its where Disney World located). I haved heard about the Border wars and it pretty much happened at El Paso, Texas where Mexicans would enter and exit out of the US and the city of El Paso would ethically cleanse the mexican natives in these gas chambers and it was the inspired the Nazi's to use gas chambers in their concentration camps. Its a dark history
There was no Philippine-American War on the U.S. outlook. There was the Spanish American war that got the U.S. the Philippines as a commonwealth and then the insurrection afterwards.
An interesting story about the mexican revolution, in the northern state of chihuahua is where we saw the most conflicts between the ejercito federal (federal army) and la division del norte (the northern division), controlled by the former bandit Doroteo Arango, better known by Pancho Villa (the guy who raided columbus) and one of, if not, the best gunner in the entire country Felipe Angeles, on a battle really close to the border, la division del norte won againts el ejercito federal, leaving just the the highest comanders alive, in a way of psycological war, villa sended all the bloodied uniforms from the dead soldiers to the president Porfirio Diaz, they had a single letter "ahi te van las hojas, mandame mas tamales" (there you have the leafs, send me more tamales) leafs = bloddied uniforms, tamales = more soldiers to kill
America: **Forces Tripoli to surrender.** Enslaved Americans: Hey! You've come to free us! America: Hey nice to see you. Bye! Enslaved Americans: Wait! Where are you going!?
What I remember from my new Mexican history class when we look into the early 1900s it was our statehood then the poncho villa raid on Columbus NM the poncho villa expedition where John "blackjack" perishing lead u.s troops to hunt down poncho villa then the Zimmerman telegraph and well that's all I can remember.
That’s all Americans are ever taught about Pancho Villa. He was a major factor in the Mexican revolution and him and Emiliano Zapata are practically gods among most people in Mexico but interestingly both lost the Mexican Revolution to the Constitutionalists
About Korea's DMZ conflict... I remember one time or maybe several times the North was trying to build a tunnel that can help them move the troops and equipment into the south, but got exposed.
Mr. Terry, I'd really be interested in seeing your lectures and what you teach your students. I like the reaction style as well, but I'd love to hear you teach history.
Nope! It would be great if he reacted to some of those videos. Also, what happened to that series? It was some of the only good content BuzzFeed has ever put out.
@@geekasauruswreks8789 as far as i know it moved with shane to their own Channel called "the watcher" So far there are 2 Videos talkin about History with the puppet "Professor"
@@anyathepanther7977 thank you so much for that information. I'll be sure to check it out! I didn't realize he had left BuzzFeed, but it seems like everyone does, probably right around the time their contracts expire.
The sword used by all Marine officers (Yes it is still registered as a used weapon, making it the oldest weapon in the US Military arsenal) Was presented to Lt Presley O'Bannon by the ottoman viceroy after they raised the US Flag during the barbary war. As people have pointed out, the line in the Marines hymn "...to the shores of Tripoli." Is about the USMC involvement in the Barbary war.
You should look into one of the Korean axe murder incident and Operation Paul Bunyan videos, quite interesting and often forgotten, especially since it's a post-armistice conflict
The Trail of Tears not only saw Native Americans driven from their homes, but people enslaved by the tribes. Not just other natives, but also whites and blacks.
people keep talking about how we don't learn about the conflict with the natives. But i guess it just depends what part of America you live in because I've learned about the conflicts with them
The Border War, first thing that popped in my mind was Pancho Villa. With him the US had a sudden problem of him coming over the border and raiding the US Armory. This lead the the US Mexico Expeditionary Force lead by John Pershing to put and end to him.
55 Days at Peking is an older movie but it’s highly interesting about the Boxer Rebellion. It made me do a lot of research to see what it was about it was like idk 70sish sort of
As someone who lives in Florida, the Seminole war was definitely swept under the rug even harder I think. I've heard of Jackson being a prick, but this really takes the cake.
There where several conflicts and wars not really touched on or at all, such as the Banana wars, Haiti, Boxer Rebellion, Barbery wars, Korea 1871, the Philippians prior to WW1. The war with France after the Revolutionary war, and prior to the war of 1812.
1812 is forgotten in American history moreso than Canadian history. Than again, most of our wars were British-colonial wars, world wars, or "peacekeeping attachments" in modern American conflicts. There are surprisingly few battles fought on North American soil, especially when you consider Canada didn't have the same levels of civil war as the states, it makes sense to remember 1812 more up here.
One of the first uses of a machine gun by US forces was against Mexican border forces in the "border war": the 1909 benet-mercie machine gun. Check out the video from InRangeTV about the raid on Columbus, NM
@Thelondonbadger im very well aware of all of these and none of them fit the definition of a machine gun by any means. "Repeating firearms" maybe, but the Girandoni was an air rifle and not a firearm.
@Gerald H while certainly a rapid firing, spring firing firearm, it was hand cranked and did not have a trigger so it doesn't truly count as an automatic firearm. Even today the ATF rules that a hand cranked repeating firearm is not a machine gun by legal definition. The Maxim gun in 1883, which used the firing projectiles opposing force to operate the loading mechanism, was the first true machine gun.
What about that one time we went to war with Canada and Britain because a Washingtonian farmer shot a Canadian farmer’s pig trespassing on his farm? However that only lasted like 3 months and officers on both sides decided to just make both farmers pay retribution to each other when they realized how stupid it was.
Can we all just appreciate this Teacher chose to do this for us instead of being a Driving Instructor for his extra cash. Speaking from having my History Teacher being my driving instructor in the summer...
My great great great grandmother was full blooded Cherokee which lived in now a days Atlanta and was part of the death March called trail of tears she and her parents were marched all the way to a reservation near present day Oklahoma city
Prediction: Philippine war, Barbary wars, intervention into the Russian civil war, intervention into the Mexican civil war, Whiskey Rebellion, and that's the ones I can think of. EDIT: 2 for 5 there
For Korean dmz stories look up the poplar tree incident. My dad was there when it happened. They sent 2 guys into the dmz to cut down a tree that was blocking a watch tower. North koreans show up and kill the guys. We ended up taking out the tree in the end but thats one of the random things that happened. And they would always fire at patrolling americans that happened a lot.
During the Northwest Indian War in the 18th Century the US military suffered what some refer to as it's worst defeat in it's history at the Battle of the Wabash.Fighting the Western Confederacy of Native Americans,General Arthur St.Clair led a force of 1000 men.Of that force,only 24 escaped unharmed.
The Korean war is still going on. There's been something like 300 to 400 individual conflicts since it ended. I lived on the DMZ for about 7 years (No. To preempt that same thing that happened on the really really uncomfortable Delta flight to Korea, I did not serve, just worked.) Even in my time, there was a gun fight on the border. 3 shellings I believe. The sinking of the Cheonan. A knife or machete fight (that one was never clear). And I just missed the guerilla party of north Korean military that roamed south Korea.
I don't know about everyone else, but in my American history class, the War of 1812 was just kind of "a thing that happened" and we did not go into detail about it at all.
