I have a K1 and from the moment I turned it on I only had perfect prints. One thing is that many problems mentioned by reviewers (like the door slamming in the display, the chain unlocking the filament, need to raise the acrylic lid, etc...) they don't occur on my printer, so it may be that you tested a unit from an older batch.
I don't know why but I've honestly been very successful on my K1 without applying any glue to the plate. The only thing I've noticed with adhesion is that after about 3 or 4 prints it'll get a "oily" shine where repetitive prints overlapped. I just wash it with soap/water and a sponge and it seems to get rid of that contamination. Got about 100 print hours on it now. The extruder on it is crap though, whatever metal they used on the original units seems to slowly start bending over time. I've rebuilt mine twice now taking a pair of plyers to the extruder gears to bend them back into position. Supposedly the $3 upgrade kits fix this but only time will tell...
So bought my K1 about 4 months ago from Amazon as they randomly get them in and fulfilled by Amazon. It came in perfect shape and with the exception of the provided slicer I have had zero issues and have run through about 4 spools of eSun PLA+. I did buy the Ender 5 PEI plate as I really like that texture but so far every print has been 100% ( when sliced correctly...note Creality Print is buggie ). I am coming from a Lulzbot so I am used to a machine that is built like a tank and can print for days with no issues. I am very happy with the example I got and would not hesitate to buy another....if coming direct from Amazon.
@@F1DesignUS I have been using esun pla + and pei plate on my ended 3 s1 pro and this has worked great but I am looking for an upgrade in speed and a corexy style printer and k1 looks the best option to me. Can we just directly use the pei plate for this also can I use cura as my slicer of choice here ?
They only listen to „prints great“. All the other negativity will be ignored! I will never buy a Creality printer again! Creality ignores there customer with a really shitty support….äh…no support…they ignore you!
A problem with the Bambulab's printers is that they don’t ships those worldwide yet, and if you could find one it’s literally the double of the price ($1100 - $1500 USD in Chile for example) and in that point it’s just worthless in comparison with the K1 that conserve the original price 😔
I totally agree with you. Not every buyer is from USA or UN so not everyone can get bambulabs and also they are shit when it comes to privacy. Atleast creality have made it's printer firmware open-source so users can work their magic on THEIR printer
I will most likely get the k1 on a Black Friday deal, maybe a k1 max. The bed adhesion and the noise problems are minor and both printers are pretty much the same there. I'm more concerned about the proprietary replacement parts for the P1P, the connection issues, and the privacy concerns. The full enclosure, the ability to print many types of filaments, and the touch screen on the k1 are great features. for the P1P the ability to upgrade it for printing multiple colors or print out your own side walls is great, but I'd prefer the enclosure and I always paint my prints so I don't care much for printing in multiple colors. I'm in no rush so I'll let the companies change my mind if they can. my friend/co-worker has the P1P he uses glue for the bed and has also had some trouble with failed prints, so that's not a deciding factor for me. both of these machines are beasts and I'll continue to look into reviews, before a purchase.
Agree about different colors. You can basically paint, what's the problem? Always thought that second filament is for dissolving supports only. Enclosure is much useful, as printing abs is just something you can't ignore in long-term use. Considering price tag here, in Ukraine, p1p is no option for 1200+ usd. Ordering proprietary parts is not as easy as regular ones. Plus you can always tinker with creality. Bought a few PrintBite+ surface many years ago for adhesion and never had problems since then. Still does its job.
@@rodiculous9464 I take it creality has open sourced the k1 firmware and you can now flash full Klipper firmware so that takes care. Correct me if I am wrong anywhere.
8 months on from this review, I decided I wanted a CoreXY for my printer stable, decided the bed size is adequate for my projected use and bought one of these. Fantastic printer, Creality have fixed a lot of the reviewer problems from release and I have had nothing but clean prints from it.
@@astrophysicistguy What are you talking about? The P1P/P1S absolutely blows the i3 MK3S+ out of the water. The reasons why I'd buy a Prusa in 2023 comes down to their printers being open-source and having better support, not because they have better specs.
@@astrophysicistguyI own a mk3s+ and I'm looking at getting a Bambu p1s. Mk3s is awesome but it fails dismally with the multi colour, the mmu2 or 3 are buggy trash. Bambu kills prusa in this area. Oh and speed
@@momo_the_great6969 everything is a trade off … color is irreverent to me and everything i make gets a coat of primer and then painted in some fashion but I’ve many many ‘multicolor’ parts without issue when i needed to change rolls in the middle of a large print because i had used up all of a roll, you simple hit pause, unload, load new filament, restart, done. Their new slicer s/w now allows to to program in color changes automatically. As for speed that’s always a trade off vs print quality. I’m way more interested in the print coming off the bed ready to prime then how fast it printed and requiring a bunch of sanding. All my prints are done at .15mm and very rarely are they NOT ready to prime when coming off the bed. I’ve seen some of these ‘fast’ prints and compared to what mine look like coming off the bed - well I’ll take mine every time. I know everyone seems fascinated by the latest ‘shiny object’ - speed but I’m never in a hurry or trying to go into production so quality is 10x more important than speed to me
been wanting to get back into the hobby but saw your video a few weeks ago about the P1P and have decided to way until the end of the year to decide what to get. very glad for this review and looking forward to the K1 Max review. hoping Bambu Lab makes a larger version of P1P soon
@@Cujobob I have heard rumours they are working on a toolchanger larger size machine to compete with the XL, you cant always rely on rumours though, although this does make sense.
I got a K1 for about $430. Do you think it's worth it? I actually wanted P1P, but in my country P1P is much more expensive. Just a little more and it's almost $800. (P1P shipping is $170 💀, I lived in Thailand.)
Not many mods for these printers yet, but looking at fan mods for the noisy fans brought me to this video. Honestly, I didn't have high hopes for Creality's K1. I bought a CR-200B as my first 3D printer and it really soured me on Creality and 3D printing in general. I still have it boxed up in pieces and need to put the parts on eBay one day as not many spare parts are available. I got a single good print off of it, then never another successful print. Something wasn't right with the single screw Z Axis, unsupported setup, it varied greatly on back-to-back auto-leveling sessions. I took another chance on Creality with an open-box CR6-SE for $137 at Microcenter a year ago. Literally it was opened and returned, never being removed from the box, it still had all the peel-off plastic on the bed and display, all the screws in bags, etc. So I took a chance getting the SR6-SE for $137 instead of $400. It gave me hope, the CR6-SE has been a great printer, just slow but enough on that. I was all set to buy the Bambu Lab X1 with the filament box when this printer came on the market for a little over 1/3 of the X1's cost. The P1P wasn't an option for me as I didn't want an open frame and the basic LCD display as I do everything from the front panel of the printer. I took a chance on the Creality again because of the return policy and I've had nothing but good prints since. I have had a couple of failed prints but these were small parts (clips) that had no first layer brim to help hold them down. It's strange that you mentioned you didn't get a glue stick, mine came with one. But I did replace the glue based plate with an aftermarket Creality spring steel with the textured surface, for the Ender 5 that has the locating cutouts at the rear so it's a perfect match and it's eliminated my need for using glue. It set me back $20 and I'm happy with it. The only real complaint I have is that I have to use the packaged slicer. Hopefully someone comes out with some Cura profiles soon. The Creality modified version of the slicer is very poor IMO in the supports compared to running generic Cura on my CR6-SE. Once that gets ironed out, I'll be perfectly happy with the unit for just over 1/3 of the price. I'm no professional, I don't print large volume things like the helmet you showed. I got into the hobby to make replacement parts like spacers, sleeves for bolts, brackets, enclosures, and printer improvements so my experience is likely much different than most hobbyists. So based on my needs, I'm happy that this Creality printer is doing for me for $600, what I was ready to spend $1200 on a Bambu, actually $1500 (because why not get the filament box?).
Wow!!! Glad I came here to watch this!!! Almost bought one, they are $399 now on a flash sale. Very good objective review....now where is that bamboo labs ad. 😮
I just got one on sale for $300 so hopefully it will be a great upgrade from my Ender 3. Hopefully it will be decent. I am used to PEI and gluestick. I am mainly interested in a corexy and don't care as much about the speed.
Love mine. havent started doing ABS with it yet, but compared to rep rap from years ago when you basically built teh printer over six hours from parts, its a dream. I looked into some of the fine tuning things, but its pretty dialed in as is. I rooted it, but Im not sure I had to. The main reason I wanted to root it was the measure measurement for the X and Y axis when it does taht vibration test ( it uses one number for both) but mine never did. I also havent been using glue stick, just the (pei?) removable bed it comes with. I wipe my oily fingerprints off it with a microfiber cloth. I'm partial to hair spray, so Ill probably be using that when the time comes. @@gabikLutz7009
It’s really refreshing seeing someone give some of these printers *actually* honest reviews. So tired of everyone acting like these sorts of printers are just magic.
My K1 has spent more time on repair than actually printing. The Good: well put together and get pretty good quality prints (when it actually prints) + nice design looks pretty good. The Bad: Cheap faulty extruder and hotend which has been the reason for multiple repairs in my experience. With a good extruder and hotend it can be a pretty good reliable machine. I don't print PLA unless it's like a test print. For me it's PC, PC-CF, CF-Nylon etc and there are no presets on Creality Print for any of these filaments. I use Orca Slicer because of this.
So true. I got a K1 and after about 30 days of minimal printing the hotend died. I had to take pictures and wait for support to ship out a new hotend. I should of got a P1P!
Hey Frank! Great to meet you at SDCC! Congrats also for getting up to the 1M mark. I’m glad I went with the Bambu P1S. As a newbie this printer has been working flawlessly. Hopefully Creality steps up their game. Also, would you recommend the P1P upgrade kit?
About what i expected from the k1 given other reviews. God i hope the k1 max is somehow better in some way/shape/form because a 300³ high speed machine is literally what i've been waiting for.
I lost interest in the K1 and K1Max after I contacted Creality directly. They confirmed that they have no intention to allow for an AMS style multi-filament selector, and the build volume on the K1 won't print to the edges due to what I refer to as the buffer zone, similar to the rest of Creality printers and the K1 Max has a larger print bed(only plus over the Bambu Labs printers), but again, the buffer zone around the bed cuts it down. I like the Bambu P1P, P1S, or X1C with an AMS for the cost and functionality. Don't get me wrong, I like Creality, they have been the flagship of the 3D print world for a while, and I've owned several, but I've quickly grown partial to my Bambu printers.
@@Drumaier Yeah! Naomi Wu parted company with them as instead of improving their QC department which was what she was pushing for they more or less cancelled it.
As a data point, I have been running my K1 almost non stop for 2 weeks. I have only had 1 bed adhesion failure with a filament that I have always had adhesion issues with. And I haven't been using any glue.
I have the K1 Max and have great success with it. No glue applied to bed, however, glue was shipped w/ the printer. I'm using the Creality Print slicer, using the default print profiles with an ever so slightly mod, and also love the LAN printing option. After the Benchy test, I went straight for the helmet test and printed "The Armorer" with no issues. All smooth. I've also printed a Halo Master Chief helmet and again came out great. Sorry you had issues with the K1, but love to see your review for the K1 Max. Hopefully your experience is better.
What’s wrong with Elegoo filament? I’ve used it exclusively because it’s cheap and I’ve only gotten bad results from things that are definitively my fault
If you put the new extruder in it will solve your failures. It’s funny how people are crapping on the K1 and hyping Bambu labs when Frank himself said the Bambu printer was unusable for a long time until they fixed software. Lol. How easily we forget I guess.
The real test will be in Sept when Creality will release the K1 firmware to open source. An enclosed printer capable of 300-600mm/s that can be modified, tweaked, improved and repaired will be the real game changer. Once the flood gates open on upgrades it could be amazing. My Ender2v2 has been one click printing flawlessly for over a year entirely due to the community surrounded by it, parts available and information out there. A lot of us are turned off the Bambu because it’s locked down. You get what you get, and it does sound impressive, I’m just weary of repairs down the road as well as their cloud and the security issues they’ve already had.
It’s so funny, I started this post with the intention of saying I can’t get behind the small build volumes of all the high speed printers….then you broke out the MAX. I’m curious about this. Anxiously waiting the review.
So... Bed adhesion is usually levelling and how clean the bed is? They actually say to use gluestick? Thats horrifying. High speed printing will definitely be affected by the nozzle hitting a warped print. You need good bed adhesion to print this fast. I am glad I watched this. I can neither have a loud printer, nor an unreliable one that needs gluesticks.
Be a shame (but not a surprise) if the K1 Max isn't what it should be, hopefully you surprise us with the testing and it turns out to be worth the steep price tag 🤞😁
I found this similar experience with my Creality Adventurer 3. Your channel has helped me fix so many prints! Do you use the Creality Sonic Pad? I'm curious if it really works as advertised. Also what printer is in the bottom left corner?
Folks, just get the P1S (or any Bambu printer). not only is it the fastest, most reliable printer i've ever owned, but i got my P1P a week before they released the P1S, and Bambu gave me (and everyone else who bought a P1P at the same time) a $100 gift card to make up for the price drop on the P1P. And as a part of their one year anniversary they also gave EVERY Bambu owner two free 1kg rolls of pla-cf AND a $50 gift card for their store. that is customer appreciation. Meanwhile creality can't even give you a $2 glue stick with their "high end" printer that comes with a crappy build plate. (Bambu gives you a $15 liquid glue stick with every printer even though you don't need it at all) its almost funny how sad and greedy creality has become as a company and how they still don't get it after all these years.
Micro center is trying to push sales on these printers, the first time I saw it printing at the store next to bambu p1p and the print quality was horrible on the k1😂.
Can’t wait for the max video! Really hoping that goes better but I’ve already seen some horror stories of warped beds… between that and the p1s, I want the bigger size but the Bambu looks so nice 🎉
It make me sad to see the K1 is not that good. I loved my ender 3 for year till I upgrade to a bambu p1p after watch your video on it. So far my P1P is great I've printer a full sized master sword and now I'm starting my build on a full set of mando armor. keep up the great work
I ordered a K1 max but the Lidar is absolutely fake does not do anything make sure your K1 Max has properly tensioned z -belts as its has problems of being lose AF. The P1S is a good choice as a its enclosed and bigger build volume than the K1. I cant wait for a Bambu large format printer
you can't use the test print they usually deliver with the machine, they've tinkered with it and fine-tuned it so it looks perfect when it's finished. the challenge comes when inexperienced users have to use a slicer and then print and they normally cannot understand why their print fails or does not look good, their slicer could also need an upgrade and others have had worse results by using a different slicer however with some challenges to get it to work, so I hope that other slicers like prusa and cura orca implement k1 and that creality corrects the errors the printer has.
I really wish i would've seen this earlier i literally just bought the k1 and I'm feeling less confident due to the experience i had with the ender 3 v2 neo. Brand new to 3d printing and its already starting off discouraging.
Just got a K1 max, not using glue stick(provided) and having no adhesion problems with PLA direct on the bed. Fan noise is intense, lucky I do not sleep in same room as printer.
A shame as I prefer more flexibility to use Lan mode, and it annoys me greatly I need the internet to apply firmware updates. I won't buy bambu while I am forced to use cloud for anything. I just wish the k1 had ethernet like the k1 Max
In the current market, would you recommend getting a faster printer (e.g. Neptune 4 Pro), or sticking to an older, slower model with a larger volume (e.g. a Neptune 3 Plus)?
Wondering if this review was of a unit with the old extruder. Creality released a new extruder two or three weeks ago or so and they made it available for something like 2USD with free shipping to K1 owners with the old extruder. To ID, the old extruder had cast metal parts while the new one has machined parts (you can see the machining marks on them) -- should be able to find info on how to get the new extruder on their site, no idea how much a difference it's going to make but the two or three vids I've seen about it, the first layer quality has improved a fair bit.
You’re smart enough to know there is no Tolkien-esque build plate, one surface to adhere them all. If there was it would definitely be my precious! I use whatever gets the job done for the combination of filament, print, and desired surface (i.e. smooth, light or heavy texture, pattern). “Whatever” may be build plate material, Bambu Lab liquid glue, Layerneer, bed and enclosure temperature, brim, first layer height, print speed of first layers.
Oooh oooh oooh! I have an idea for the million subscriber video! I was on your discord a few weeks ago and I told you that I am a high school engineering teacher and I am printing out 30 iron man helmets so each one of my students can make one open and close using your videos. What if you came to the highschool in your iron man suit and did a video with you working with them? You can get a short where everyone’s helmet closes at the same time. You standing in the middle. Surrounded by your army.
My first printer was a CR-10. My next (and current) was a CR-10s Pro. I think that after that, Creality started losing their way. The competition has passed them by. They seem to constantly seem to be chasing the competition and appear to always be throwing things together as quickly as possible just to get something out with no regard for quality. Or user experience. In short, they seem to be coasting on their past reputation. My next machine will probably be an Elegoo large format machine. And at some point, when I'm feeling ambitious, a Voron. Creality has lost me.
100%. all anyone has to do is look at the endless versions of the ender 3 they put out. why anyone would expect innovation or a polished final product from them is beyond me.
At this point, everybody basically yells not to use glue stick. But hey since you’re ranting on it, glue stick is included. It being not included is simply not true.
thank you been waiting on your take about this printer i loved it when i first saw it on paper but as soon as i saw that you need to glue i kinda didn't want it anymore but still wanted to know if it's worth the hassle. and now that you mention it to print at that speeds i need different filament and repair more often which in my opinion i'd rather wait for my prints longer and do no repairs than to print faster but also repair sooner. i mean i just made 2 adjustments to my pro v2 with silicone holders i didn't level my bed for like 20+ parts with long hours printing and with some gold magnetic pei sheet it doesn't stick to the surface too hard or never stick at all it just comes out itself when cooled only thing i would like it to be faster for big parts but i can probably do that with buying a second printer looking forward to your K1 MAX review please tell us if it's any better
Creality’s strict adherence to underwhelming and subpar quality products has been bolstered by fanboys that will physically fight you trying to convince you that Enders are good.
