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You could use ABC notation, for which players already exist. I've tested it with Claude and Claude 3 and it worked fine when I prompted them to just write in ABC notation.
It's crazy how LLMs seem to fail at music like at math. There's no musical sense or connection to the prompt, to me at least it all sounds random, with some chorale or fugue stuff blended into it? On the other hand Suno v3 has musical coherence, but for the time being you have no control over the output. I tried putting 'Beethoven' as the description but the result had nothing to do with Beethoven haha. For now it seems to be biased in 'corny cliché music' :P
Fun tip when using Eleveb Labs so as not to end up with monotonous sounding cloned voices such as the ones that are featured in this video: crank the stability level right down and the clarity levels right up you'll get voices that sound more realistic, albeit some of them might be a tad cracked, it takes a little finessing but it turns out a lot better and has a bit more dynamism in the range of tonality.
From what I've seen of computer-generated music, each series of a few bars, in isolation, sounds right, but it doesn't reproduce the bigger structures. It doesn't have introductions and climaxes, but seems to just be 'noodling'. I suspect this has something to do with the fact that music theory, too, is very good at describing small-scale structures in detail, but gets quite vague when it talks about bigger structures. You have to 'just sort of know' the bigger structures, learning by listening without being able to write down what you've learned, to be able to write music.
What if: You give a prompt with all information regarding form: a piece in a sonata form. With further details: the bridge between A and B should follow standard modulation. Then you give more information about motives: motive 1 on part A should use triplets mostly by intervals of 3, 4, and 5 with some diatonic steps. Then you give some harmonic: should make it clear the antagony between harmony on A and B. You can go to the texture: A uses a more spaced voicing while B uses more polifony. As for the development section, it should sound like the bridge from the exposition section, but uses more chromaticism from all the neighbors major and minor tonality. So, maybe if you give more specific orders, you can get a deeper result, and not this dull elevator music. ❤
Concerning AI's reincarnation of Beethoven - All that glitters is not gold! While the AI may have sprinkled it with fairy dust, that dust had no magic and the music sounded like an old shoe found in a garbage dump by the side of a country road.
Look, it's no Zaythoven, but if anyone switched up this for their kid's Baby Mozart, I think the kid would still turn out just as messed up either way. Thanks for this.
It's impressive that the final composition by Claude remind me AF the original sountrack from the movie "Her", supposed to be composed in the movie by the AI main charachter.
Is it me or did we just have a Punk Sinatra cameo at 16:08? All jokes aside, I'm a fan of your work. It's deep, fun and instructive. I have a feeling I'll possibly join the collective when my time comes to experiment with A.I. properly. Have an awesome week, my friend!
Damn I did not expect the guitar at the end. It is awesome. This is really a improvement since last videos. This was really awesome. I really want to work on the AI classical music myself, I hope you won’t mind if I use some of your stuff for inspiration and would you?
Heard Suno AI music yesterday, I was very impressed. Been spending a few weeks with Stable Diffusion XL turbo on my Pi5. Midi based music should be doable.
thank you, dumbGPT. that shit sounds absolutely nothing like Beethoven. Human creativity is safe. Go power robots to plant potatoes and mine asteroids...
I'm confused. Are you saying they're good? I like your process but none of the three deliver. My concern is that human adaptability will decend to this AI level much quicker than AI gets to a human level. I would hate for us to be dumbed down by a fascination with itterative technology. OK it's fun to do but is it worth anything?
Another outstanding job on the video. Something I find funny about the discussion in regards to AI and art is how it differs drastically from the visual artists and the audio artists. The painters out their are up in arms and screaming that AI can't make art. On the musician and composer side, it seems like we've already accepted that it's art. It may not be the best art around, but to claim this isn't music and that there is no artistic merit to it is pretty fringe at this point in regards to compositions like this.
AI doesn’t make art. It’s like counterfeiting money: you can make a dollar bill identical to a real one, but ony if the State makes it, it counts. If an AI makes music it doesn’t have the same meaning as when we make it, so it’s not art. I don’t see either the need to call it art. You can enjoy it even if it is an imitation.
@@federicoaschieri an AI generated image won an art competition. The person submitting the image didn't tell anyone what it actually was. By whatever means qualified them to be judges of art, the judges of this competition were not just unable to differenciate the AI work from the human works, but found the image so compelling that it should be recognized as the best of all submissions. If you don't feel that AI generated works meet your criteria for what you personally consider to qualify as "art," then just say that. Say, "It doesn't live up to my standards." That's fine; no one can really argue with the way that you feel. When you make statements which carry an implicit demand that your personal standards be recognized and adopted by everyone else, however, others will be justified if they choose to raise an objection to that demand. _You_ may not think this stuff is art, but the example I began this with shows that there are people out there who _do_ think of it as art. Even some who likely have more qualifications than you do to be making such judgements. Believing you're right and everyone else is wrong is not the most rational view..
@@SineEyed As I said, false one hundred dollar bills may fool some people, but it doesn't mean that they're authentic and count as money. Similarly, AI imitates art, but doesn't make art. Art comes from humans as a mean of expression, while AI just copies what we do. It would never invent genuinely interesting new music, because music to AI is nothing, and AI can only follow. Beethoven invented a completely new style of making music, and if you trained an AI only with what comes before Beethoven, you would never get such a beauty. Comparing AI to humans is just anthropomorphism. AI operates differently from human, and it's not an artist. Listening to a love song by AI, for example, would be grotesque. That's of course my opinion, but probably I have far more qualifications than you do...😅
@@federicoaschieri perhaps that's true, but you'd need to do far better than simply out-qualifying me to be reasonably justified in your position. You would need to out-qualify everyone else on earth to expect anyone to abide by what you alone claim to truly be "art". Absent that, it's like... just your opinion, man..
@@SineEyed My positions is backed by logic, I don’t need qualifications to make logic valid. I have the musical competence, and that’s enough for knowing what I’m talking about. The rest is pure reasoning
