A Lost War: Victor Davis Hanson and H. R. McMaster on Afghanistan’s Past, Present, and Future

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Recorded on September 17, 2021
General H. R. McMaster and military historian Victor Davis Hanson are both senior fellows at the Hoover Institution. In this frank, no-holds-barred conversation, they discuss the United States’ mission in Afghanistan: how it began, how it was conducted, and its ignominious end. McMaster and Hanson debate what worked and what failed, how social issues in the United States may have influenced our mission in Afghanistan and our decision to leave, and whether or not the United States should have continued to maintain a presence instead of leaving in a matter of weeks, abandoning thousands of Afghans loyal to the US mission there (as well as an unknown number of US citizens) after 20 years of military operations in the country.
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@thewh00ster 3 года назад

This was an amazing back and forth. Seeing Hanson and McMaster go at it while still having respect for eachother is refreshing and I do want to see more about the politicization of the military class.

@Subliminal8853 3 года назад

Brilliant move getting Victor Davis Hanson and H.R. McMaster together to talk about Afghanistan.

@Kane123 3 года назад

Brilliant. The best analysis on Afghanistan I’ve seen to date. Peter please never stop interviewing, you’re the best in the game!

@rundays 3 года назад

This is the best Uncommon Knowledge video yet. As a Vietnam Veteran I would have loved to have been there to ask some question and throw some thoughts out. I'm not a bitter veteran, I just seem to always question where we went wrong. I think I see what our policies should have been in Afghanistan. I'm sure I will watch this video again and maybe again. I only wish our presidents would.

@Linda-9037 3 года назад

Victor Davis Hanson is brilliant.

@thetruth603 3 года назад

Thank you Peter for your amazing interviewing skills. VDH is an unparalleled historian , excellent!

@WhizzingFish12 3 года назад

Man I have never seen this level of heat in a Goodfellas-type conversation. Fascinating though.

@kerridisanzo4807 2 года назад

VDH is such an impressive historian.

@LizaJaneFlor 3 года назад

One of the best interviews ever done! Wow!

@sounddio1598 3 года назад

Victor is spot on!

@stellawinston8550 3 года назад

Brilliant! I look forward to any interview with VDH. This exceeded my expectations and included free exchange of opinions as a bonus!

@kentdavies1988 3 года назад

Great discussion. Interesting to see Victor Davis Hanson and H.R. McMaster challenge each other on certain points.

@saundrayanna1 3 года назад

Mr. Hansen is spot on…... To pretend otherwise is negligent.

@jacobw.9342 3 года назад

The invasion in Afganistan was a preventable disaster. Great to see more interviews with Victor Davis Hanson, we hope to get more of Thomas Sowell soon!

@brianivey73 Год назад

McMasters is quite the company man....Glad Hanson was there to keep hitting the truth over and over again.

@julien8629 2 года назад

These two need to get together more often. Fantastic discussion.

@JB-ti7bl 3 года назад

Great stuff guys, thanks. Never seen Victor or HR get heated before.

@patrickegan5669 3 года назад

The question was asked, "is the military politicized?" My question is, "why is General Milley so concerned with the subject of white rage? What are examples of this "white rage" in the military and civil society? Are these examples prevalent in either the military or in civil society?

@brennangallgher3600 3 года назад

Always a pleasure to hear VDH.

@mrniceguy7168 3 года назад

HR was quite defensive I think because he still feels a part of the military, Victor was explaining the context of American fatigue vis a vis Afghanistan, not necessarily saying that it was correct or that HR advanced such ideas.

@michaelr1225 3 года назад

You can hear it in HR's voice, irresolvable frustration at the misuse of the institution he loves and has devoted his life to

@zachlogan9621 3 года назад

Great discussion. I like how Vincent and HR pushed each other.

@patriciakimball8150 3 года назад

Love you guys always but this was…awesome, glorious, urgently important, profound…just great. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your passionate, real, and thoroughgoing discussion of these most critical matters. I hope that the multitudes are listening. 🙏

@joeybagodoughnuts3357 Год назад

McMaster did not expect any historic academic to bring so much unleashed knowledge of the intense history of war to the table. That’s why Hanson is the person that should be in the room when the government thinks they have a big idea.

@CLiNT642 3 года назад

VDH is an exceptional speaker and intellectual. Hands down. The post modernist progressive movement is liken to a mental illness, and a blight on the West. Unfortunately we have to endure it and prevail.

@leetworks 3 года назад

These videos are gold. Thank you for the releases Hoover Institute

@eoinhogan152 3 года назад

Victor Davis Hanson is exceptional, leading right wing intelectual

@KainedbutAble123 3 года назад

A passionate conversation. McMaster is impressive but loses his temper a little as he struggles to keep up with the intricacies of Hanson's arguments.

@paulklee5790 3 года назад

Greetings from the U.K. I’d very much like to buy you three a beer! Best kind of conversation ever, sharp and blunt without being upset or sulky. You guys know your stuff and form opinions from your understanding of facts and not from a preselected political stance... and really intelligent chairing and that’s a skill in short supply! So thank you so much. I’ll pass this episode on to others, if I can find anyone open to it...

@margarethess8557 2 года назад

Excellent! I learned more about Afghanistan during this last hour than in the last decade. Thank you.

@phildupuis1084 3 года назад

Very useful discussion and an inspiring speech by the General to end it off...and I say this as a Canadian

@jebjeb1498 3 года назад

Unsurpassed commentary,critique and rational optimism.Bravo VDH and H.R. you have the medicine for the sickness.Wonderful discussion.

@TheTenthLeper 3 года назад

This was wild. Thanks for taking the time to participate, guys.

@karenfornwalt9929 3 года назад

Dynamic conversation between some of the most admirable men in our nation, imho. A lot to digest, and I want to believe that there is hope for the future of this great nation. Thankyou.

@irenebussey5122 3 года назад

Thank you gentlemen for that outstanding debate. Standing ovation, seriously in my tiny living room! Think I will replay this one.

@belichagua 3 года назад

Victor Davis Hanson is a smart men.

@greers7296 3 года назад

Another interesting and insightful conversation as always with Uncommon Knowledge. Being an active duty Marine with friends who were working in U.S. Embassy Kabul, I cannot help but feel like not only this administration, but the long line of military leaders and previous administrations have dropped the ball severely. I know I can speak from experience that currently in the military, there is a very large distaste for the current administration; not only for some of its recent acting's in regards to race politics in the military, but as well for the way it has handled the withdrawal. Rising distaste I have not seen in military members since I have been in. The resentment comes from all angles, all races. Black, Asian, White, Hispanic. From the Enlisted Corps to the Officer.

@HedgeFundOfOne 2 года назад

Great discussion. Appreciate both Victor & HR. Looking forward to the next one where HR defends his statement that the US military is not politicized. 😊

@lizp5004 2 года назад

Please have a discussion w/just Victor Davis 🙏🏻 PLEASE! Great discussion, btw!

@kirkfletcher7670 3 года назад

Where has McMaster been the last 8 months?

@elizabethannegrey6285 3 года назад

A very heated debate, yet respectful at all times. Peter Robinson handled this with great skill and kept the topic on point. A memorable debate; time well spent. 👏👏👏

@andrewbarnes752 3 года назад

As much as I like HR, Victor is bang on the money!

@moonstone468 Год назад

Fascinating discussion!)

@timothyh7053 3 года назад

Amazing conversation...an actual intelligent discussion on the matter. Thank you!

@oldkoot5828 3 года назад

HR, pipe down and hear Victor out!

@garethyoung6067 Год назад

Great discussion.

@roberthumphreys7977 3 года назад

I worked for a company with about $3 billion in sales, employed about 14,000 people, and provided products to other companies to produce thousands of different kinds of products. So, when I hear $106 billion of US tax payer money (not the government's money, but citizen's money) treated like chump change with 40% of it simply disappearing, I lose faith in our system. I am hardly alone. How much did the US embassy in Kabul cost? About $800 million? Hardly even worth counting, unless you worked for it, which the spenders did not. Oh, and HR: Victor is correct about the current military brass, particularly Milley Vanilli. Good luck attracting the best and the brightest with clowns like that in charge of the troops. The brass basically told the US middle that they are not wanted. I can see it now. Safe spaces and puppy dogs at West Point. Yessir, Kim, Xi, and Vladimir must be pinching themselves daily. As Pogo said, we have seen the enemy and he is us.

@jackoshea7668 Год назад

MacMaster is a company man

@elenitsigante3256 3 года назад

From Greece: thank you for this conversation and a belated and much appreciated introduction to HR McMaster.

@Politicallyhomeless957 3 года назад

Two great minds contemplating our biggest foreign policy failure of my life time. ✅ Thank you 🙏 for this and wish I can meet VDH some day and talk history:)

@jsg8357 3 года назад

VDH is the GOAT

@houndnobleman876 3 года назад

H.R. was too quick to anger at some points. It created some needless friction.

@mariojorge9529 Год назад

Thank you very much!

@julienero960 Год назад

Difficult to listen to: HR kept interrupting VDH!

@richcampus 2 года назад

The guests are great. And Peter Robinson is an excellent interviewer.

@cliffc2546 3 года назад

Another outstanding interview. Peter hit it out of the park with this one.

@jimmahoney9003 3 года назад

Excellent info! Thanks Peter. The main point i took from the conversation would be - Victor and H.R. agree on the point that the military's job is to "win" - with no doubt left in the mind of the "enemy" about the severity of response (i.e. deterrance). However, H.R. seemed to be too defensive of the military when Victor raised legit Qs on what 1) Milley et al. are doing now, and 2) what Haden & Co. did (said) regarding Trump.

@markslist1542 3 года назад

An elegant and eloquent conversation. Thank you.

@saramangas5233 3 года назад

Intelligent questions, bright responses. Not usual these days. Thanks for the gift.

@sainthelen1 3 года назад

This was a really good watch and great discussion.

@aking1914 3 года назад

@HR: Perhaps you might want to examine YOUR OWN behavior when you became triggered hearing the term "cannon fodder", while missing Professor Hanson's context. Consider the optics. Excellent interview.

@rogerparkhurst5796 3 года назад

Good discussion, but necessitating a follow-up, especially after the Military's comments to Congressional hearings.

@nitasheehan2704 2 года назад

Another great discussion. Thanks.

@Munce72 Год назад

Great work Peter! Scooby snacks for you Gen. McMaster, and Dr. Hanson. My allegiance is to Liberty, the Republic, and Democracy.

@jph8291 2 года назад

You’re right Peter. This is great stuff. And thanks to you, VDH and HR.

@marksilbert7181 3 года назад

This was the best discussion yet. Hanson wouldn't let up on the military brass and McMaster kept blaming the politicians for putting the military in a difficult spot.

@sharonfarrelly7146 2 года назад

Brilliant discussion…really informative.

@eoinoconnell185 3 года назад

I find myself in disagreement with McMaster on so many things. He has nothing but rose-tinted glasses on the entire military-industrial complex. Thank God VDH is there.

@TheVitalover 3 года назад

Gold in video form

@KevinFitzMauriceEverett 3 года назад

Thank you, H. R. McMaster for standing up for our military and our country and its ability to self-correct. Keep your energy and emotion and keep sharing it. We need it.

@Based_D 3 года назад

Great conversation and with awesome critical thinking

@joeybagodoughnuts3357 Год назад

This is a year old. McMaster will be thrilled to hear about trans gender parties on base. We gave a 20 yr war enemy the 3rd largest base of military equipment in the world. McMaster needs to stop defending the military I grew up in and recognize the literal trainwreck that happened.

@richardseverin1603 3 года назад

A follow up discussion will be appreciated. So much more to cover including Afganistan.

@johnweiner Год назад

Near the end, around 1:15:58, General McMaster talks of agency. Yes, in principle we have agency, but my sense is that the present twenty-something generation does not want it, fears it, detests it, and prefers arguments of victimization, relieving them of agency.

@simonbannow3905 3 года назад

looking forward to a follow up convo

@neshama44 3 года назад

Thank you for this conversation

@stephenhauck5251 3 года назад

H. R. Is making an argument which no person in government was actually making. He's making an argument he wished government had made.

@fchrisb804 3 года назад

Fantastic Discussion Guys! Wonderful!

@Brando_M Год назад

great conversation, thank you hoover institute

@Stew357 3 года назад

Terrific discussion, ty gentlemen!

@sakarisaikku790 3 года назад

Not even a mention of Pakistan and the aid and safe haven they gave to the Taliban. The ISI and Pakistan in general is surely happy about a successfull policy.