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Without the roof, the body will twist and roll, but the roof will strengthen against that twisting and add support to the whole wagon. The series of bows with these lateral slats adds a lot of integrity to the stability of te wagon box. Thanks for coming along,
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@berndheiden7630
@berndheiden7630 5 месяцев назад
Everything falls into place when the Hercule Poirot of the wheelwrights finds one hole that does not make sense! One quick check in the pile of rotten remnants and the culprit is identified and eliminated. It is so inspiring to watch you turn back the time and build this shepherds wagon exactly the way it was originally build.
@jerryjohns7358
@jerryjohns7358 5 месяцев назад
Bon
@michaelkelly8955
@michaelkelly8955 5 месяцев назад
Haha.
@aserta
@aserta 5 месяцев назад
It's elementary!
@SteveVidra
@SteveVidra 5 месяцев назад
Wow. For something that is going to be a static display on someones property, you are turning out a museum piece.
@glencrandall7051
@glencrandall7051 5 месяцев назад
The original wagon maker would be proud to see his creation living on.🙂🙂
@Dave-ty2qp
@Dave-ty2qp 5 месяцев назад
In hindsight he might agree with Dave about needing 6 bows instead of 5. 😀
@stephenrice4554
@stephenrice4554 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Dave , a great demonstration of why you never secure a part until you're sure it's right . Looking good 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@BillOwens-vt2wi
@BillOwens-vt2wi 5 месяцев назад
Looks good the old wagon parts have been a good teacher. You have been a good teacher. Thank you.
@miltonpomales5405
@miltonpomales5405 5 месяцев назад
Dave, the Schools in your town should send you more students. Your expertise needs to be shared to the young generations. I can say it, because I worked with my uncle in his cabinet shop when I was in High School and in College. Everything that i learned has helped me in life!!!
@amandagardner565
@amandagardner565 5 месяцев назад
exactly, kids today need to learn some basic skills that then gives them some confidence. also they need to know it's OK to not know something - they just need the confidence to admit that sometimes and to ask for clarification / information.
@richardsurber8226
@richardsurber8226 5 месяцев назад
My only reply is that I heard Dave say that the student has to pick the activity he/she wishes to apprentice. I know it is not that
@Daniel-gi3jo
@Daniel-gi3jo 5 месяцев назад
Great progress Dave. It'll be good to see you making the canvas with the sewing machine which is a work of art by it self.
@jerrygillette854
@jerrygillette854 5 месяцев назад
The old saying that "You can never have too many clamps" is proving to be true again. Nice work, Dave.
@robinstuyvesant7187
@robinstuyvesant7187 5 месяцев назад
Jed Clampett reincarnated
@meldert
@meldert 5 месяцев назад
But apparently you can have too many bows… 😉
@aserta
@aserta 5 месяцев назад
That's so true. Even when you think you do, even if you have a cabinet dedicated to keeping your clamps, it's still not enough. :))
@martindonald7613
@martindonald7613 5 месяцев назад
You are no doubt taking way more care and using much more precision than the original builders. In a Romany vardo, we would have put the horizontal pieces on the inside. I am curious to see what the covering is going to be, We would have had a layer of chintz fabric on the inside, a layer of thick felt as insulation, followed by the standard green canvas as the outer layer.
@jayh1947
@jayh1947 5 месяцев назад
I am sure glad there is demand for your work so we can keep watching. Thank You Jay
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 5 месяцев назад
Nice catch Dave, always thinking and looking both ways. You'll be happier that you caught it now and can be proud of the fact that you are a perfectionist and will make it right the way it was originally. Thanks for sharing with us. Stay safe and keep up the great videos. Fred.
@SST11B
@SST11B 5 месяцев назад
Can't believe how outright blessed i was to find this channel. Amazing work, any project, every time. Cheers to y'all from springtime Virginia, all the best!
@robertvotaw6019
@robertvotaw6019 5 месяцев назад
Dave, Thanks for recording the method and logic of construction of the shepherd wagon. In just a few years without your recordings, I'm afraid that no one would know how to build this or any of your other constructions. History will thank you for this.
@brianmros4844
@brianmros4844 5 месяцев назад
Hi Dave, and Diane, well that answers my question about the rib over the kitchen cabinet interfering. It sure looked like it was going to hit the cabinet, but I guess it's all going back together as it was. The ribs in place give a great perspective of interior space. I hope that we get to see it in the museum, and I hope that they outfit it with gear. It will be amazing. Thank you for sharing, and have a great weekend.
@bigredc222
@bigredc222 5 месяцев назад
I don't think it's going in a museum, I think it's just back to the spot where it was sitting for the last 50-60 years as yard art.
@dianeengel4155
@dianeengel4155 5 месяцев назад
It is going in a museum.
@brianmros4844
@brianmros4844 5 месяцев назад
@@dianeengel4155 Thank you Diane, I've been searching videos from last year to find the answer🙂
@legend7ify
@legend7ify 5 месяцев назад
@@dianeengel4155 I also thank you for reminding us Diane.
@bigredc222
@bigredc222 5 месяцев назад
@@dianeengel4155 Thank goodness. I guess I misunderstood.
@daviddaniels6473
@daviddaniels6473 5 месяцев назад
13 minutes. 264 views. Dave's right popular!
@alasdairhamilton1574
@alasdairhamilton1574 5 месяцев назад
🤔Dave’s OCD “So if it was up to me six fingers not five it makes sense to me”.🖖🖕🏻😜.👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@tomtruesdale6901
@tomtruesdale6901 5 месяцев назад
Watching you build that wagon, figure out what is working and not working and then correcting that shows your attention to detail and historical fact. Thank you for share this build with us.
@geraldmiller5260
@geraldmiller5260 5 месяцев назад
If you paint your bows golden, would you have the golden arches? If you had weevils in the wagon, would they be bow weevils??
@one44east77
@one44east77 5 месяцев назад
Great video. Your attention to detail is impressive and always a pleasure to watch.
@raymondbrandt7831
@raymondbrandt7831 5 месяцев назад
your videoing is on spot i love your videos wish they was longer, i have re-watched all your videos i can find ,have a blessed day
@aake59
@aake59 5 месяцев назад
Your conclusion on the number of bows relative the snowload, really exited me. It perfectly align with the current building code here in Sweden - the further north you build, the bigger the trusses. It´s always 16" apart (60 cm) though.
@tomswindler64
@tomswindler64 5 месяцев назад
Very nice,wagon is taking shape.just keep doing your thing.great video.😎😎😎👍👍👍
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 5 месяцев назад
Now the sheep wagon is taking shape with its own personality.
@cm-ek4ci
@cm-ek4ci 5 месяцев назад
Maybe a air be an be all kind of space is rented out for a weekend stay 😊
@elvinscott2356
@elvinscott2356 5 месяцев назад
You don't need advice Dave but i'll make one suggestion. I changed my jeans to a pair of work pants that have removable knee pads. Not only do they protect my knees from harm, they also protect my knees from the cold when I'm on concrete. The pants I got have plenty of convient pockets for all I need to have with me as I work. The only down side with the pockets is it adds twenty pounds to my weight. I don't want to see you injure your knees. I want to see you continue with our wonderful and entertaning videos! I'm pushing 80 years and I still love working.
@markthompson4885
@markthompson4885 5 месяцев назад
I also have work pants with knee pad pockets. I absolutely have to have them .
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 5 месяцев назад
"How, Sweet It Is" to go from building all new and getting them nice and shiny finished. This project is building old and getting/keeping them dull and weathered. Not as easy as it may seem in the real world .
@dianeengel4155
@dianeengel4155 5 месяцев назад
True
@duanelundgren7985
@duanelundgren7985 5 месяцев назад
One can have enough Clamps, but never too many!!! Thanks D & D
@milt7348
@milt7348 5 месяцев назад
Stay safe and we'll see you next week.
@judsonr1
@judsonr1 5 месяцев назад
Almost as impressive as your knowledge, is the number of clamps you own! What a wonderful channel!
@opendstudio7141
@opendstudio7141 5 месяцев назад
By any chance, a sheep wagon’s insulated cover contains wool insulation? I know wool resist mold and repels water. Plus it can be felted to any thickness desired.
@huntz3215
@huntz3215 5 месяцев назад
Not sure how much time you spent re-clamping bows but perhaps a steel rectangle tube piece could be the clamped jig & slide the bows inside, a small rubber pad for friction perhaps. Planer reminds me of the movie Dumb & Dumber (1994) "the most annoying sound in the world" scene :) Good detective work again on the design of this rig.
@judithdomangue9995
@judithdomangue9995 5 месяцев назад
Another very enjoyable video, thanks! Really liked the music, also.
@johntracy9398
@johntracy9398 5 месяцев назад
I guess one can never have enough C-clamps.
@dallasarnold8615
@dallasarnold8615 5 месяцев назад
In woodworking, you can never have too many clamps... of any kind ! LOL
@sirloinofsuffolku.k.9968
@sirloinofsuffolku.k.9968 5 месяцев назад
Another fine video, so much valuable information for future generations thankyou
@douglasschafer6372
@douglasschafer6372 5 месяцев назад
I see you doing a lot of math gymnastics, would a divider be more accurate? faster?
@thepandeslar8062
@thepandeslar8062 5 месяцев назад
FWIW - I think it might have been a good idea to measure the installed length of the first bow, and use that as a pattern for the rest of them. This would also help forming the top stringers, canvas, etc.
@kellymiers4982
@kellymiers4982 5 месяцев назад
hi dave, i read on my news website that one of the borax wagons caught fire. Have they contacted you about fixing it. What are your thoughts on working on it again. Love your videos.
@dianeengel4155
@dianeengel4155 5 месяцев назад
No, they haven't. It was one of the original ones and not being taken care of, so I doubt they will repair it.
@shrumittofarmer439
@shrumittofarmer439 5 месяцев назад
Talk about your Tiny House Nation!
@legend7ify
@legend7ify 5 месяцев назад
...................G'day Dave, greetings again from Australia mate. Love your work Brother (f.a.m.) Cheers and kind regards, Malcolm.
@raystormont
@raystormont 5 месяцев назад
It's a small detail but it appears from my limited views of the old slats that the leading and trailing outside edges may have been rounded as with the longitudinal edges? Ray
@lint2023
@lint2023 5 месяцев назад
I really enjoy you and your projects.
@davidmelville5675
@davidmelville5675 5 месяцев назад
Dave, how happy were you that you hadn't drilled any holes yet? XD
@thekenneth3486
@thekenneth3486 5 месяцев назад
If I may say: hip, hip, hooray for clamps!
@WarblesOnALot
@WarblesOnALot 5 месяцев назад
G'day, Yay Team ! I kept having to smack down my own recurrent abberant musings, involving a Triangulated Geodesic Frame instead of parallel Bows under the fore-aft Battens...; because such would not be historically accurate - regardless of adding Rigidity to the Canopy... Such is life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao ! PS, Yesterday's Upload to my Videos, showing the (actual) Court of Kangaroos, Considering all of Trumpy's Troubles, described On the Radio Is pretty good value Their decision...;- "Crusts are too hard...!" Backtrack me To fact check me On that (!). Enjoy... ;-p
@ellesmerewildwood4858
@ellesmerewildwood4858 5 месяцев назад
When the shepherd filled the wagon with his belongings, food and water, I hope the shepherd made his sheep earn their keep by hitching them all up to pull this heavy wagon.
@jimdee5003
@jimdee5003 5 месяцев назад
If I was a betting man, I would’ve said, ‘ribs under bows’; but nope it’s ‘ribs over bows’; but why is that ❓ Wouldn’t pulling the canvas top on be easier with ribs under bows❓
@opendstudio7141
@opendstudio7141 5 месяцев назад
You can bet it was tried before. It’s easy to see that wagons were designed to twist and flex, but not break when driven over rough terrain.
@billmitchell2932
@billmitchell2932 5 месяцев назад
I was wondering that myself, one possible reason might be the back door framing is right there, hopefully Dave will let us know next week, since I seen the question asked several times, also hoping he has some insight on the borax wagon fire down in California.
@gpanizzolo6090
@gpanizzolo6090 5 месяцев назад
Buen día! Excelentes tus trabajos de restauración. Gracias por compartirlos. Donde yo vivo, no se conocen ese tipo de carruajes, se conocen unos similares que más que nada se usaban para transportar mercaderías y eran tirados por bueyes. No se usaban mucho como viviendas. Es sumamente interesante, por ejemplo, saber que tenían una estufa dentro... Increíble. Un abrazo y hasta la próxima! Germán, Lomas de Solymar, Uruguay.
@jeffcraft3980
@jeffcraft3980 5 месяцев назад
It don't got to be perfect just excellent is my standards
@TgWags69
@TgWags69 5 месяцев назад
You get to peek inside the mind of the original builder. Instead of thinking mathematically and dividing 12 by half and making six bows. They did a more organic method of dividing into four sections/spaces. Now that you know how they are thinking you can use that thinking to infer how they would space the purlains and other layout mysteries.
@omegaman7456
@omegaman7456 5 месяцев назад
I have an idea for you. Design and build a wagon that James West, of the TV series, Wild Wild West, would have in his ''arsenal''. The first electric generator was built in 1831, so you could squeeze that in there. When I saw the manure spreader, I thought about electrified wagons. Another idea i thought of, is an ice delivery wagon that has a refrigeration compressor driven off the axle. I noticed in a lot of Hollywood movies, they used the wrong wagons. Something based on a sulky could have been the first EMT service, or mail delivery.
@34base34ball
@34base34ball 5 месяцев назад
I saw a wagon replica once and the bow ends 15:02 were under the first and last bow, the canvas fit smoothly on the bow where it was tied down around the front and back.
@RichardHeadGaming
@RichardHeadGaming 5 месяцев назад
99% of the viewers that say they have OCD don't, if they had OCD they would still be trying to get past the handwashing and PC prep in order to even watch the video. They are just complaining in the only way they think will work. lol.
@tonyn3123
@tonyn3123 5 месяцев назад
Question. I missed the wheel restoration, or are the wheels original? Thanks. Good video.
@dianeengel4155
@dianeengel4155 5 месяцев назад
Dave rebuilt the running gear several years ago.
@jockcherokee5180
@jockcherokee5180 5 месяцев назад
As usual Dave. Classy detection of something not quite right & easily rectified by a craftsman.
@tolbaszy8067
@tolbaszy8067 5 месяцев назад
I'm certain, given your usual precision of construction, that once you set that first bow you could just make the others the same length and mount them at their stations. Any arc discrepancies could be resolved with a heat gun. Adding the purlins will also tame the errant bow. I would guess your favorite shop tool, next to your hydraulic press, would be that Fay and Egan table saw. Your camera work showing that beast ripping the slats was exceptional! This is a great series! Thanks!
@ellisc.foleyjr9778
@ellisc.foleyjr9778 5 месяцев назад
I was dondering if you were going to run out oc C-clamps! its so nice when you do have what you need when you need them. it's coming along really good now. great pickup on the extra Bow. Thanks for sharing. can't wait till the next one. ECF.
@stuartlockwood9645
@stuartlockwood9645 5 месяцев назад
Hi Dave and Diane ☺, kind of sounds like something you'd order , a plate of ribs and slat, lol. Seriously though your persistence in analysing where the original parts went is truly admirable, and when you've finished I'm sure it'll be as near to what it looked like as makes no difference. Thanks for another interesting video mate, stay safe, best wishe's to you and Diane, Stuart and Megan UK.
@AdelinoGambiarras
@AdelinoGambiarras 5 месяцев назад
Coming along nicely 👌
@raymondmiller4981
@raymondmiller4981 5 месяцев назад
It's not OCD. It's CDO. It's the same, but alphabetical like it should be.
@pat36a
@pat36a 5 месяцев назад
I know you got the bow arch from the front wall , so you're set to what the wagon took. Is there a rule of thumb to the height of the wagon top? Inside hight ? Sheep wagon shorter because the box is wider than a "coverd wagon"? Generally speaking......
@brh4115
@brh4115 5 месяцев назад
Always fascinating when you allow the old wood lead you in the build! 5 bows instead of 6. Fun to watch your wagon archeology at work!
@davidchisham
@davidchisham 5 месяцев назад
Very good video. I love how you explain every small detail.Thanks Dave and Diane
@olivier2553
@olivier2553 5 месяцев назад
I am just wondering: on such a cheap wagon, in the past, did they went all the way to double and triple their measurements, or wast it more "if it looks square, it must be square" philosophy?
@usmcforever7630
@usmcforever7630 5 месяцев назад
Well done
@chrispemberton7000
@chrispemberton7000 5 месяцев назад
Great video Dave. I got the vision of the original builder. Thanks again.
@robertwinton2649
@robertwinton2649 5 месяцев назад
How about a compromise 5 and 1/2 bows And one Indian bow under the front seat 🤗❤️👍
@errolpoxleitner9586
@errolpoxleitner9586 5 месяцев назад
Beautiful detective work it's looking very good.
@terryacker9505
@terryacker9505 5 месяцев назад
I'd love to know more about your background music. It increases my old heart rate in a very good way. Thanks
@bigredc222
@bigredc222 5 месяцев назад
It's Bluegrass, maybe "Union Station". Allison Krauss usually sings with them but I do believe they have put out some instrument albums without her. If you like bluegrass you will like them.
@ralphmills7322
@ralphmills7322 5 месяцев назад
Any Shepard that had to live in that wagon during the winter would opt for the additional bow! Also I just realized from this episode that the door was at the front of the wagon. I assumed the door to the living space was at the rear because that is how pickup truck campers are.
@wolfie854
@wolfie854 5 месяцев назад
I was wondering what wisdom lay behind the decision not to secure those bows until they were all in place. Great video, Dave.
@mfreund15448
@mfreund15448 5 месяцев назад
Happy Friday Dave!!
@dallasarnold8615
@dallasarnold8615 5 месяцев назад
My first thought was that the slats would be on the inside of the bows. And they still could. He only clamped the center one so far. Dave does have a tendency to surprise us sometimes. But I am sure he will explain why one way over the other in a future video.
@erickengels8003
@erickengels8003 5 месяцев назад
as always, love your videos. can't wait for the next one!!!!
@mabloodhound
@mabloodhound 5 месяцев назад
Looking at your last picture, the top lateral doesn't look to be in the center of the bows. Maybe an optical illusion.
@johndii2194
@johndii2194 5 месяцев назад
Wagon Train came on this morning. Look that wagon has 4 Hoops and that one has 5. That wagon is short and that one is the longest. What have you done to me? Before you had me looking at the wagon wheel designs.
@thisolesignguy2733
@thisolesignguy2733 5 месяцев назад
lol watching this made me want to have the wagon look like those old cartoons with a swayback like an old horse. I just thought that would look funny.
@orbsphere-
@orbsphere- 5 месяцев назад
5 bows seems to make more sense as it doesn't require any cyphering. Put a bow at each end and one in the middle and another bow in the middle of each of the 2 new spaces. 7:00
@HongyaMa
@HongyaMa 5 месяцев назад
Cozy little wagon An 1800s 1900s Gulf Stream camper
@keithbrowning3899
@keithbrowning3899 5 месяцев назад
Dave 99% perfect..!!
@1crazypj
@1crazypj 5 месяцев назад
I must be OCD, would want to steam it to get curves the same to at least 1/16" 🤔
@yobop6072
@yobop6072 5 месяцев назад
....not to be nosey, thinking $100k for this build?....when I need a wheelwright, I'm asking you.....
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 5 месяцев назад
I guess you can ask but he'll probably turn you down. He did a video announcing retiring from just doing wheels. It's in his back catalog.
@seekimheng8929
@seekimheng8929 5 месяцев назад
Thanks, take care have a wonderful weekend 👌❤️🙏
@shelferd3219
@shelferd3219 5 месяцев назад
Dave, boundless energy! Great job so far! Be safe!
@scotth4760
@scotth4760 5 месяцев назад
Good example that you can never have too many clamps
@brucemeller2794
@brucemeller2794 5 месяцев назад
Another wonderful-filled video. Thank you. I love what you do - not just for the technical work, which is so good to watch, but for the analysis and logic and careful observation that you always show, Dave. My favourite channel without peer!
@cemx86
@cemx86 5 месяцев назад
OCD - As the joke goes, "I don't have OCD. I have CDO. Same thing but in alphabetical order!" HA! 😆
@dianeengel4155
@dianeengel4155 5 месяцев назад
Lol
@billmitchell2932
@billmitchell2932 5 месяцев назад
Great video as always, not sure if Dave reads the comments. But I was wondering if Dave heard about the fire down at the borax museum. Sounds like a couple of the wagons took some fire damage. Any insight on weather you might be doing any repairs to them.
@dianeengel4155
@dianeengel4155 5 месяцев назад
Yes, someone sent us an article about it. They were not being kept up, so we're not in good shape, so I don't think they will repair them.
@Dave-ty2qp
@Dave-ty2qp 5 месяцев назад
@@dianeengel4155 Thanks Diane for the update. Sad about the wagons.
@billmitchell2932
@billmitchell2932 5 месяцев назад
@@dianeengel4155 thanks for the update Diane, I heard they weren't the ones Dave rebuilt. So that's a good thing, I had to ask, because I also heard something about they didn't get to much damage, and the owners were not sure if they would have them repaired or not yet.
@BlueFlyer21
@BlueFlyer21 5 месяцев назад
Reminds me of the 1932 movie Freaks
@CharlesScott-z2w
@CharlesScott-z2w 5 месяцев назад
Ever think in your spare time to make a router table ?
@Cheggley45
@Cheggley45 5 месяцев назад
My great-grandfather ran 5000 head of sheep. He had Basque sheep herders working for him. I remember the sheep herder’s wagons. Couldn’t have been the lap of luxury living in these little wagons and chasing sheep, but I guess it was a living! Your attention to detail on this project is nothing short of remarkable, thanks.
@randymurrell716
@randymurrell716 5 месяцев назад
Oh for crying out loud. A 1/4 inch off. 😁
@Pushyhog
@Pushyhog 5 месяцев назад
yea, im here again , tgif! ld take it accoss to california in 1848, early for gold rush. Is it better than canvas wagon top? l hitch-hiked 16 thousand miles, i can steer the wagon to socal.
@BobBlarneystone
@BobBlarneystone 5 месяцев назад
left/right sides - nowadays we who build our own tiny campers say curbside and streetside.
@buckhorncortez
@buckhorncortez 5 месяцев назад
You figure the sheep wagon is going to be parked next to a curb...?
@cotton-Dave
@cotton-Dave 5 месяцев назад
@@buckhorncortez Maybe Bob was simply making a comment?
@flywayhome8903
@flywayhome8903 5 месяцев назад
Once again thanks for the video.
@margaretardouin265
@margaretardouin265 5 месяцев назад
I always admire the logic and method of your reasoning. Each of your actions teaches me something. your videos will be a true anciclopedia for generations to come. it's a joy to know that this whole experience will not be lost
@michaelwoodruff9825
@michaelwoodruff9825 5 месяцев назад
Why not trim the bows after you attach them?
@billk8780
@billk8780 5 месяцев назад
Engles Coach Shop, a.k.a. "C-clamp City". All the best!
@jeanhawken4482
@jeanhawken4482 5 месяцев назад
Looks so good
@xoxo2008oxox
@xoxo2008oxox 5 месяцев назад
Great work on the bows and slats. Curious, how is the apartment building renovation going?
@dianeengel4155
@dianeengel4155 5 месяцев назад
Dave hasn't worked onbit for about a year.
@patmancrowley8509
@patmancrowley8509 5 месяцев назад
Thanks, Mr. & Mrs. Engle
@rogerfrizzell6418
@rogerfrizzell6418 5 месяцев назад
Hey Dave, as always another great job ! But I have one question, would the outside of the wagon look better if the prelins were on the inside of the bows? As they will show through the canvas.