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@numberphile
@numberphile 4 года назад
Part 2 - using the theorem to show some cool stuff: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o3QBgkQi_HA.html And a bit extra on inversion: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qmfFH1SyXP0.html
@PhilBoswell
@PhilBoswell 4 года назад
I like the extra length, gives us more to chew on!
@HighMansx
@HighMansx 4 года назад
Name typo! It's Zvezdelina Stankova, missing the 'Z'.
@kasajizo8963
@kasajizo8963 4 года назад
Yo Numberphile we need some more Simon Pampena
@LindaRistevski
@LindaRistevski 4 года назад
You made my day, Numberphile! Quality!
@qwertyuoip1234
@qwertyuoip1234 4 года назад
Man, long shoot!
@sphyr4973
@sphyr4973 4 года назад
I love this host. She is incredibly eloquent, spends a lot of time on the proofs and introduces tricky concepts from Euclidean geometry (one of the most hated subjects) and make them surprisingly interesting and intuitive. More prof. Stankova, please!
@TheAradune
@TheAradune 4 года назад
The only access i have to math is geometry. If there is a visual, it is more likely that i can understand it or at least get a grasp why it could be useful.
@mrk4022
@mrk4022 4 года назад
It's hated right, but to some it's the most beautiful thing in the world. I love it.
@xpqr12345
@xpqr12345 4 года назад
I'm not that picky: as long as I get Numberphile videos, I'm happy. So just give me more Numberphile videos....
@marios1861
@marios1861 4 года назад
@@TheAradune when you stop trying to USE everything a new world will open up to you. and this is rich coming from an engineer lol.
@steamer1
@steamer1 4 года назад
Yes. More.
@superj1e2z6
@superj1e2z6 4 года назад
Friendship ended with Pythagoras, Ptolemy is now my best friend
@Pyrostar0
@Pyrostar0 4 года назад
I see what you did here
@lyrimetacurl0
@lyrimetacurl0 4 года назад
Lol
@CalamityInAction
@CalamityInAction 4 года назад
Pythagoras was a joke. He had a rational number cult, maybe had a fear of beans, and he didn’t even think of the Pythagorean theorem
@bsharpmajorscale
@bsharpmajorscale 4 года назад
@@CalamityInAction Don't forget that time they killed the dude who proved that root 2 was irrational.
@asherrajah1832
@asherrajah1832 4 года назад
@@bsharpmajorscale literally came from that video
@quartzofcourse
@quartzofcourse 4 года назад
Me clicking on this video: no way I’m watching 30 minutes of this Me 30 minutes later: I have reaped the benefits of this new knowledge
@lxathu
@lxathu 4 года назад
Indeed, I also had the fear of a long story BEFORE it started.
@collingwoodfan72
@collingwoodfan72 4 года назад
YES!!
@danielconnor8516
@danielconnor8516 4 года назад
@Mr. H yes, but it's a nice way to be introduced to inversion. Like a new tool sitting there waiting for you to use it somehow.
@dayceem
@dayceem 4 года назад
Nope. 30 minutes in, it's apparent that I've flunked grade 3.
@thecallankids4718
@thecallankids4718 2 года назад
"I have reapdeffects" of this knowledge
@carsonfang5540
@carsonfang5540 4 года назад
This reminds me of a joke: A cattle farmer hires an engineer, a physicist, and a mathematician to build a fence around his livestock. The farmer would like to save as much money on materials as possible so they each come up with their own solution and report to the farmer. The engineer draws up a square fence seeing that its the most practical solution and the easiest to implement. The physicist decides on a circular fence, saying that the circle offers the highest area-to-perimeter ratio. The mathematician builds a fence around himself and defines the outside as the interior.
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 4 года назад
oy vey!
@CraftQueenJr
@CraftQueenJr 4 года назад
This is like the red rubber ball joke.
@tlf4354
@tlf4354 4 года назад
I'm an engineer, and I only want to say that the mathematician should be careful, if he stands right in the center of the fence he would be redefined as existing at the edge of the universe....And worse of all, i mean ALL the edge of the universe....
@icollectstories5702
@icollectstories5702 4 года назад
And maybe safe from lions, too!
@victos-vertex
@victos-vertex 4 года назад
@@tlf4354 I think this isn't true. Not only did the mathematician - not - use an inversion but simply a redefinition, on top of that the ground of the earth is considered the plane he's working in, not the entirety of space as none of the stock doesn't live on the Earth. However the Earth can be considered a sphere and where do the lines projected from the center intersect then? Well they do so exactly on the opposite side of the globe. Let's assume the stock lives anywhere but the north pole and you want to build a fence around them. The mathematician could just go to the north pole, build a fence there and then declare everything inside that circle as the outside. If he however used an inversion then the center of the north pole would be exactly mapped to the center of the south pole. This is easy to imagine (and show) if you just take a tennis ball and put a ring on it. It shows that in case of a sphere what's inside or outside "of the circle" is pure definition as any circle divides the sphere into two areas of circular shape. A small circle around the north pole could just be a very big circle around the south pole.
@joshhickman77
@joshhickman77 4 года назад
What an amazingly engaging mathematics instructor. A couple minutes in and I'm hooked, a simple mapping to prove Pythagoras's pappy theorem? Yup.
@f5673-t1h
@f5673-t1h 4 года назад
We need more of this professor. Absolutely love how passionate she is and how she takes time to explain the concepts.
@24jh42
@24jh42 4 года назад
Enthusiastic mathematicians are a delight to watch. Their passion and love for numbers just shines through.
@wendolinmendoza517
@wendolinmendoza517 4 года назад
I agree with on the first part; on the second part, remember math =/= numbers.
@fgc_rewind
@fgc_rewind 4 года назад
math isnt about numbers
@mattiasselin4955
@mattiasselin4955 4 года назад
I love George R.R. Martin's love for letters
@peterroemer1
@peterroemer1 4 года назад
Amen!
@PC_Simo
@PC_Simo Год назад
@@fgc_rewind If you think Math is about numbers, you probably think that Shakespeare is all about words. You probably think that dancing is all about shoes. You probably think that music is all about notes. 😃
@mdkc
@mdkc 4 года назад
As soon as she mentioned circle inversion I started getting flashbacks to a crazed Australian laughing maniacally surrounded by compasses
@alexismandelias
@alexismandelias 4 года назад
Ah that nice problem you solve by drawing 50 circles and inverting them all. Amazing
@shrinivasabhat4628
@shrinivasabhat4628 4 года назад
@@alexismandelias which problem?
@TrackpadProductions
@TrackpadProductions 4 года назад
@@shrinivasabhat4628 I think they're referring to the "Epic Circles" video.
@urble
@urble 4 года назад
@@TrackpadProductions man that video sure was epic
@anteconfig5391
@anteconfig5391 4 года назад
@@urble ooh, that must be where I heard of this circle inversion thing.
@tomkirbygreen
@tomkirbygreen 4 года назад
Fabulous video. Can’t help thinking how wonderful it would be to be a student of hers.
@knugie
@knugie 4 года назад
You are, now :-)
@jeromesnail
@jeromesnail 4 года назад
Every single host on this channel is my favorite.
@centralprocessingunit2564
@centralprocessingunit2564 4 года назад
parker square > any theorem
@peterevans3310
@peterevans3310 4 года назад
I feel the same.
@omeraydindev
@omeraydindev 3 года назад
so you don't like married hosts???
@muesk3
@muesk3 4 года назад
Videos like these, going through an entire proof are the best!
@spracketskooch
@spracketskooch 4 года назад
I know it's a lot of work putting together these longer vids. So I just wanted to say that I enjoy them immensely, and thanks for all the effort you guys put in.
@SlingerDomb
@SlingerDomb 4 года назад
This is one of the most worthy 40 minutes + additional 7 minutes for me. I'm so so happy right now.
@samimas4343
@samimas4343 4 года назад
Yeah. It was like a thriller film where things are all around the place at first but they all come together nicely at the end.
@stephenhicks826
@stephenhicks826 4 года назад
Absolutely fantastic Zvezdelina! I was transfixed what an amazing proof. - I'm a 66 year old ex school teacher and I'm still learning! Thank-you.
@steamer1
@steamer1 4 года назад
"The King that doesn't participate in the battle, but oversees everything" Wish my teacher made geometry this easy to understand.
@anilsinha4968
@anilsinha4968 4 года назад
Yeah, some people love jargon more than the real stuff.
@SlingerDomb
@SlingerDomb 4 года назад
Gotta admit that this subject is one of the hardest to teach. And it is the reason why we use algebra regularly.
@urieldaboamorte
@urieldaboamorte 3 года назад
@@anilsinha4968 would you like your teachers to speak in logical sentences instead of using natural language? let people learn in peace
@sandorrclegane2307
@sandorrclegane2307 2 года назад
I really like this teacher here, but the line you chose to quote says absolutely nothing about geometry
@manuc.260
@manuc.260 4 года назад
This is one of my favorite videos (with one of my favorite hosts!). I had a significant assignment last year in which inversion was one of the keys to start cracking the problem, so it has a special place in my heart, and I love projective notions peaking at each corner. The one thing missing, which is certainly a more complicated concept, is that the "twin" of O truly is infinity, with the idea that there is only one infinity-point. In that sense, an horizontal line for example, approaches the infinity-point by going to the right and by going to the left, so we must think as if by going to infinity in one direction, you wrap around and appear in the other direction. By this logic, a line can be seen as a circle that passes through the infinity-point, cause a circle is a shape by which you can approach one point by going either way, and you wrap around. This finally leads to one of my favorite quotes by Ahlfors: "The last result makes it clear that we should not [...] distinguish between circles and straight lines [...] Accordingly we shall agree to use the word circle in this wider sense.", meaning all lines are just special circles.
@laurisgatiszarinovs2891
@laurisgatiszarinovs2891 4 года назад
"You can see technical proofs using trigonometry. *Ew, who likes those* " _Sameeee_
@mrk4022
@mrk4022 4 года назад
Trigonometry is not true geometry. It's even taught within algebra course.
@shantanunene4389
@shantanunene4389 4 года назад
Synthetic is love
@aatmansupkar8747
@aatmansupkar8747 4 года назад
This guy speaks wisdom.
@shantanunene4389
@shantanunene4389 4 года назад
@@aatmansupkar8747 Hi
@aatmansupkar8747
@aatmansupkar8747 4 года назад
@@shantanunene4389 Hii
@seanp4644
@seanp4644 4 года назад
This is one of the most beautiful and interesting math results I've ever seen, thank you prof Stankova for your incredible explanation and diagrams!
@quahntasy
@quahntasy 4 года назад
*"I need another brown sheet"* -Stankova, 2020
@LindaRistevski
@LindaRistevski 4 года назад
Might need this as a t-shirt 😂🙌
@kernoelnerd
@kernoelnerd 4 года назад
Production costs for a Numberphile video starring Prof. Stankova are about twice as high as the ones with the other Numberphile stars.
@votepochitasupremacy9174
@votepochitasupremacy9174 4 года назад
Stanky leg
@januszkubala9538
@januszkubala9538 4 года назад
colorized
@kayleigh8069
@kayleigh8069 3 года назад
@@votepochitasupremacy9174 HAHA
@banjofries
@banjofries 4 года назад
I really like the format of these videos, I feel like I just attended an entire math lesson and understood a cool concept in a half hour without all the quirks of being in a classroom environment. I’ve been using a lot of transformations in art programs to edit stuff (granted, I don’t have to do the math every time and it’s with colors and selections rather than circles and lines) but these concepts are definitely floating around in the back of my mind and it’s good to see them explained.
@pcfilho425
@pcfilho425 4 года назад
I just love professor Zvezdelina Stankova - her voice, her eyes and of course her math. :)
@StefanReich
@StefanReich 4 года назад
Not a fan
@CaslavNorisavljevic
@CaslavNorisavljevic 4 года назад
My favorite professor too
@dudhauwhejrnrk
@dudhauwhejrnrk 4 года назад
OK creep.
@steffen5121
@steffen5121 4 года назад
@@dudhauwhejrnrk Don't act like you have no weaknesses.
@mueezadam8438
@mueezadam8438 4 года назад
Great video, Zvezdelina is one of my most favourite guests so far! _(They’re all good though)_ We even got to see the WR for the any% paper change!
@erichobbs4042
@erichobbs4042 4 года назад
This is the first numberphile in a while where I don't feel completely lost. More of this professor please.
@lineikatabs
@lineikatabs 4 года назад
Благодаря Ви, проф. Станкова, за невероятната страст и чудесни обяснения :)
@improve_zew1er356
@improve_zew1er356 Год назад
ты понимешь по англиский? я не понял на англ, а на русском да)
@swfreak258
@swfreak258 4 года назад
I wish there were more videos with her! She's my favourite mathematician
@LindaRistevski
@LindaRistevski 4 года назад
Thank you, Zvezdelina! Even bigger fan of Ptolemy after your matchup. Thank you Numberphile for filming. I have been watching for years. This is now in my top 3 favs!
@rulersonicboom4737
@rulersonicboom4737 4 года назад
This is the best Numberphile video. Love the elegant geometrical proofs of classic geometry theorems.
@Subpar1224
@Subpar1224 4 года назад
"Something a 3rd grader can do" *Finally, my skills can be used.*
@Jako1987
@Jako1987 4 года назад
Ptolemy wins. MATHALITY!
@mrk4022
@mrk4022 4 года назад
Easy to be right 500 years later. Pythagoras is still my favorite.
@geez6666
@geez6666 4 года назад
Lol
@rstriker21
@rstriker21 4 года назад
The circle that goes through the center could be thought of as becoming a circle on the outside that just happens to be infinitely big, if there is an infinitely big circle then it’s edge would appear as a line, related to how translation could be thought of as rotation around a point infinitely far away.
@seijirou302
@seijirou302 4 года назад
This is how it's explained in the other inversion video linked in the description. That one is my favorite numberphile video of all time.
@skurbanvintr0
@skurbanvintr0 4 года назад
think you !!!
@skurbanvintr0
@skurbanvintr0 4 года назад
facts I was thinking the same !
@jonopearson83
@jonopearson83 4 года назад
"Beg your pardon" it was at this point I snorted my mouth full of tea and nearly choked laughing
@rv706
@rv706 4 года назад
Why? (I'm not a native English speaker, so I'm curious to know why; does it sound old fashioned?)
@urieldaboamorte
@urieldaboamorte 4 года назад
@@rv706 This expression is usually used when the other person is saying something ridiculous or outrageous. So, in this context, she was "overreacting" to someone complaining about the function.
@ubertoaster99
@ubertoaster99 4 года назад
@@rv706 Yes.
@yimoawanardo
@yimoawanardo 4 года назад
XDDD
@urieldaboamorte
@urieldaboamorte 4 года назад
@@ubertoaster99 I don't think it sounds old-fashioned, just overtly formal
@MrSasyB
@MrSasyB 4 года назад
I love this woman, she has so much knowledge and passion. I wish I had a teacher like her.
@zs9301
@zs9301 4 года назад
Please make more of these longer proof-based videos
@chrisf84
@chrisf84 4 года назад
Me: comes to Numberphile to learn interesting things about math Also me: learns that the 'P' is silent only because I'm lazy at english
@OlliWilkman
@OlliWilkman 4 года назад
The 'P' in Ptolemy and pterodactyl etc. is silent in English, but it's pronounced in the original Greek, and most other languages that borrow it. A lot of Greek has been simplified for English for some reason; Plato, Aristotle, Ptolemy… instead of Platon, Aristoteles, Ptolemaios which would be closer to the original.
@Ezullof
@Ezullof 4 года назад
Linguistic evolution is mostly driven by lazyness and fashion anyway
@ChristopherMeadors
@ChristopherMeadors 4 года назад
Also, spiral winged aircraft are called helico-pter.
@GirGir183
@GirGir183 4 года назад
you mean helico-ter?
@frechjo
@frechjo 4 года назад
Phonotactics.
@Sharklops
@Sharklops 4 года назад
Professor Stankova is tied with Cliff Stoll as my favorite Numberphile presenter, so I was extremely happy to see this video show up today! She always seems to blow my mind and didn't disappoint with her explanation of Ptolemy's Theorem. I feel like I was done a disservice by my 8th grade geometry class which made no mention of it whatsoever
@GaryFerrao
@GaryFerrao 4 года назад
C'mon Brady. After so long Professor Zvezdelina Stankova is so enthusiastic she herself wants a part 2. I like her explanations and allegories and geometry. It's a pleasure to watch Numberphile. And thanks for holding up that heavy camera for so long!~
@johnredberg
@johnredberg 4 года назад
Brady's Inversion: The frequency of a recurring guest's appearance is inversely proportional to the editing time that guest causes for Brady.
@ipudisciple
@ipudisciple 4 года назад
It therefore follows that every guest needs the same amount of editing time per year.
@jeremymcadam7400
@jeremymcadam7400 4 года назад
@@ipudisciple we've come full circle
@anusheelsolanki1
@anusheelsolanki1 4 года назад
For a moment I thought, thats some new mathematical theorem, I didn't know about
@roger1561
@roger1561 4 года назад
Thank you Zvezdelina Stankova for a magnificent performance as educator. Totally elegant and effective. Just WOW. and thanks to all Numberphile staff.
@johningham1880
@johningham1880 4 года назад
After the lion story, I kept hearing “lions” instead of “lines”.
@TheJadeknight7
@TheJadeknight7 3 года назад
Man, what a journey! It was all brilliantly explained too. Thanks a lot, Professor Stankova, I learned a lot!
@lvander877
@lvander877 3 года назад
This was expertly explained, every single point was clear, and I every revelation or new trick helping with the problem at hand felt natural. Amazing job.
@arwinraj861
@arwinraj861 4 года назад
“Trigonometry blehhh who likes those?” Gotta agree with that when it comes from a mathematician !!😂
@sanelprtenjaca9776
@sanelprtenjaca9776 4 года назад
Tottaly!
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 4 года назад
I raised my hand. I *like* trigonometry and still use it on a daily basis, although I generally do this by using only angles which have tidy sines and cosines, like 45 or 60 degrees.
@benhood7680
@benhood7680 4 года назад
Wow. Not an easy concept to understand, explained extremely well and obviously edited together very well. I’m sure this was a lot of work but so worth it! Huge fan of this one
@ЖантуарКумарбеков
This is one of the most beautiful proofs I've seen in a while, thanks!
@Adamreir
@Adamreir 4 года назад
This is the reason we all get superexcited about new Numberphile videos. Increadably well done!👏👏👏
@zaphodbeeblebrox5511
@zaphodbeeblebrox5511 4 года назад
Yes! The woman with the strange accent transforms elephants!
@jeremymcadam7400
@jeremymcadam7400 4 года назад
into Aladdins shoe no less
@hindigente
@hindigente 4 года назад
Today I learned inversion is not elephantness invariant.
@stephenhicks826
@stephenhicks826 4 года назад
Love this comment!
@ipudisciple
@ipudisciple 4 года назад
Technically, you learned that elephantness is not inversion invariant. The grammar is like "length is rotation invariant" or "angle is scale invariant". I'll show myself out.
@hindigente
@hindigente 4 года назад
@@ipudisciple I stand corrected.
@falpsdsqglthnsac
@falpsdsqglthnsac 4 года назад
Ptolemy: “Hello.” Pythagoras: “Father!?”
@SubtleForces
@SubtleForces 3 года назад
In reality, it went: Ptolemy: " I am your father"
@Robisquick
@Robisquick Год назад
I’m not literate at math by any means, but this is the best explanation for why Pythagoras Theorum works.. it’s ultra intuitive and beautiful!!
@zidanez21
@zidanez21 4 года назад
At 4:05 I almost became a 5 year getting a chocolate I was bit extra excited than I should've been. But that was neat
@mrk4022
@mrk4022 4 года назад
Why weren't you sleeping at 4:05, Zinedine? Joke, loved that little bit too but so much more was yet to come!
@costaran
@costaran 4 года назад
this is the BEST way to learn and LOVE geometry. brady should be THE minister of education around the globe PS: i love you stankova
@mr.johnson3844
@mr.johnson3844 4 года назад
Unfortunately, if all education was implemented this way, there would be a lot of gaps. Understanding the basics sometimes requires tedium and that's unavoidable.
@lxathu
@lxathu 4 года назад
He kinda is already. And he has also one shared proof. He, along with a lot like him, proved that however far away from school, people are thirsty for science. Not all, but a respectable amount.
@GodlessPhilosopher
@GodlessPhilosopher 4 года назад
The thing that blows me away is that there is an equal number of points inside and outside the circle.
@wash3141
@wash3141 4 года назад
Isn't that GREAT!
@JSole-bd1zg
@JSole-bd1zg 4 года назад
You are right (as long as we ignore the center, which maps to infinite points in the infinity! ;)
@irrelevant_noob
@irrelevant_noob 3 года назад
GodlessPhilosopher i feel you'd be even MORE blown away by the fact that there are an "equal" number of points in the plane as in a small segment. ;-)
@andreassumerauer5028
@andreassumerauer5028 3 года назад
Thank you so much prof Stankova. That was quite an epic ride. Looking forward to parts 2 and 3.
@SA38178
@SA38178 4 года назад
I had known about the inversion and the Ptolemy's theorem as two separate pieces of knowledge. Very pleasant to see how they are connected 👍
@dominatriex
@dominatriex 4 года назад
This video is sooo good. I was tempted to stop it half way through and find all the proofs on my own because I've never had the chance to play around with inversion of circles but I couldn't help myself. You're real people video style is so good. You guys are doing awesome work.
@mu-maths2778
@mu-maths2778 4 года назад
I remember the time I discussed inversion mapping with my friends this excitedly after a complex analysis class😍 Thanks for reminding!
@chicchi1682
@chicchi1682 4 года назад
This is beautiful. Proving such a valuable and highly encompassing theorem already. Incredible
@slerk9
@slerk9 4 года назад
She’s an excellent storyteller and this presentation is captivating! Very nice.
@mikewagner2299
@mikewagner2299 4 года назад
I think these longer videos with interesting and useful proofs are better than a shorter video just about an interesting math fact
@nvgirishs
@nvgirishs 4 года назад
Wow! What a brilliant brilliant teacher!
@isaactfa
@isaactfa 4 года назад
Brilliant proof and a brilliant presenter to boot. Contagious enthusiasm and a wonderful way of putting the maths into its geometric context.
@rstriker21
@rstriker21 4 года назад
Inversion sounds like the guy in jail claiming he is free and it is everyone outside that is imprisoned lol
@pythagorasaurusrex9853
@pythagorasaurusrex9853 4 года назад
That's why mathematicians have no problems in jail. Definition: I am outside.
@luismaro14
@luismaro14 4 года назад
I appreciate Bradys work on putting out such an interesting video. You can notice how much effort was put into it, with all those animations on a nearly 40 minute video. Thanks
@ckb1137
@ckb1137 4 года назад
I bless the rays down in Africa
@gregoryfenn1462
@gregoryfenn1462 4 года назад
Roger The Shrubber I see what you did there
@sillysausage4549
@sillysausage4549 3 года назад
Rains.
@ckb1137
@ckb1137 3 года назад
@@sillysausage4549 I think you may have missed the joke
@Grizzly01
@Grizzly01 3 года назад
@@sillysausage4549 No, it is now rays. Official.
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 4 года назад
I love Zvezda 🙂
@TamaraTkacova
@TamaraTkacova 4 года назад
Her enthusiasm is honestly so catchy, she makes it sound like going on an adventure haha
@skimmington
@skimmington 2 года назад
videos like this and Epic Circles are endlessly rewatchable, I love these beautiful constructions so much
@MrMomoro123
@MrMomoro123 4 года назад
Love these longer videos with Professor Stankova's proofs! Would love to see even more.
@ryanbrooks2434
@ryanbrooks2434 3 года назад
Ever since this dropped, it has been my all time favorite numberphile video.
@zincminer
@zincminer 4 года назад
love Leibniz' cast face in the background
@GeorgePlaten
@GeorgePlaten 4 года назад
And one of Cliff Stoll's Klein bottles!
@MrQbee87
@MrQbee87 4 года назад
Leibniz in carbonite.
@FranFerioli
@FranFerioli 4 года назад
Looks like Leibniz is following the proof.
@frobeniusfg
@frobeniusfg 4 года назад
@@FranFerioli Leibniz approofs )
@SubtleForces
@SubtleForces 3 года назад
@@MrQbee87 I had to literally laugh out loud in my Montreal apartment since I had just made another reply about Ptolemy saying "I am your father" to Pythagoras and a comment about the bust myself. I'd be stealing from another commenter by saying we have come full circle.
@sirmexicanelmo
@sirmexicanelmo 2 года назад
I love this. My professor tried to explain this idea to the class but I feel like it all flew over everyones heads. I had no idea what invcersion was and now it all makes sense. Thank you so much!
@aaabbb-lq9cp
@aaabbb-lq9cp 4 года назад
I love listening to this teacher.
@Sanjay-ub7eq
@Sanjay-ub7eq 4 года назад
Yeah me too!
@recklessroges
@recklessroges 4 года назад
I think this is the first numberphile that I'm going to have to watch a few times for me to be able to fully grok. (Thank you Dr Stankova. Lovely piece of math you demonstrated.)
@Supremebubble
@Supremebubble 4 года назад
Very nice bit on the theorem. There was a time where I found out about Ptolemys Theorem or should I say Ptolemys inequality which is the version that works for all quadrilaterals. I was obsessed with finding a simple geometric proof of it, but most proofs were too complicated for me. I also saw the inversion one but I deemed it too complicated too, there were too many formulas in the end. After days of not finding one, I gave up. But then one day inspiration hit me and I created what I think is the most simple and elegant proof of not only Ptolemys theorem but Ptolemys inequality which ist stronger. There will probably be a post on reddit and I will post pictures there but here is the idea: Ptolemys inequality: For any quadrilateral with side lengths a,b,c,d and diagonals e and f it holds: ac + bd >= ef with equality iff the quadrilateral is cyclic (Ptolemys Theorem). Proof idea: Take the quadrilateral and copy it 3 times. Scale one version by a factor of a, another by b and the last one by e or f (depending on which diagonal is inbetween a and b). Now the first version has a diagonal of length af, and the second has on with length bf, while the third has the adjacent sides with length af and bf. Now just sneek in the third version into the first and second the right way, and a triangle with side lengths ac, bd and ef will reveal itself. Now it‘s just triangle inequality. qed
@FerousFolly
@FerousFolly 4 года назад
This is kinda cool actually
@quadrannilator
@quadrannilator 4 года назад
Thank you very much for sharing this particular inversion technique! It is really simple and elegant and obvious to a third grader!
@supermarc
@supermarc 4 года назад
Let me know when you have some pictures!
@ipudisciple
@ipudisciple 4 года назад
That's a very neat proof. Thank you.
@worldnotworld
@worldnotworld 4 года назад
No doubt the most intriguing, well-paced, and elegant Numberphile video I've yet come across.
@lowercaserho
@lowercaserho 4 года назад
Zvezda is always such a delight!
@dougrudolph5400
@dougrudolph5400 3 года назад
love this hosts passion, great drawings, great intro to the topic!! and the longer video format are so much better. please more Zvezdelina Stankova
@daryfitrady7590
@daryfitrady7590 4 года назад
When you're so early and the video's so long that it is guaranteed that anyone who has commented, liked, and disliked, has not watched the entire video yet
@hiimapop7755
@hiimapop7755 4 года назад
True
@ouaisok
@ouaisok 4 года назад
How can that sentence be true uhmm
@GeorgePlaten
@GeorgePlaten 4 года назад
@@ouaisok project a ray through it, construct the tangent and drop a perpendicular - all will be revealed...
@ouaisok
@ouaisok 4 года назад
@@GeorgePlaten ohh it all makes sense is that the true power of inversion?
@skyscraperfan
@skyscraperfan 4 года назад
I wonder what the watch speed of most people is. I think more than 1.25 X is quite difficult.
@promerops
@promerops 4 года назад
What a charismatic lecturer! I would certainly look forward to her classes. Thanks!
@robertfelton8374
@robertfelton8374 4 года назад
Brady seems to be able to bring out the best in these mathematicians.
@basteagui
@basteagui 4 года назад
he's got child like wonder. child like everything to be honest.
@SpencerTwiddy
@SpencerTwiddy 4 года назад
We appreciate all the hard work Brady!!! This one was a real treat :)
@gabor6259
@gabor6259 4 года назад
This is the most awesome Numberphile video in a long time! Because of the elegant proof, prof. Stankova's engaging and likeable personality and the humour in the video. Prof.: Now we can prove Ptolemy's theorem. Brady: THANK DEAR LORD!
@FONEternal
@FONEternal Год назад
Inversion is a translation that I was never taught in school. It's fascinating! Excellent video and teacher.
@TheStillWalkin
@TheStillWalkin 4 года назад
Loved it, kept me glued to the screen the whole time
@jorn-michaelbartels9386
@jorn-michaelbartels9386 4 года назад
Stankova‘s presentation of Ptolemy‘s theorem is superb.
@danparish1344
@danparish1344 4 года назад
She explains things so well, love it
@TimFSpears
@TimFSpears 4 года назад
Really liked the detail on this episode. Prof Stankova is very engaging and does a great job of identifying the places that a bit of reinforcement will be useful to understanding.Thank you.
@oldcowbb
@oldcowbb 4 года назад
i need a 3blue1brown style animation for the inversion transformation
@centralprocessingunit2564
@centralprocessingunit2564 4 года назад
faxx!!!!!!
@costicaCJ
@costicaCJ 4 года назад
I know about inversion and about Ptolemy's theorem but your presentation is amassing and it was really a pleasure to listen to you and your colleague.
@grmph
@grmph 4 года назад
She's my favorite person on this channel
@valentincorman1578
@valentincorman1578 4 года назад
Really liked that video, long format and complete proof. Prof is very pleasant to listen to !
@nicolaslondero9752
@nicolaslondero9752 4 года назад
The people demands more videos of Zvezdelina
@yaseen157
@yaseen157 4 года назад
It's been a long time since I've been able to just sit, shut out the world around me, and lose myself in any video. What a wonderfully engaging guest!
@silakanveli
@silakanveli 4 года назад
What a amazing teacher!
@onemightsay248
@onemightsay248 2 года назад
This is genuinely so mesmerizing. I've just been sat here listening and I love it.
@TheRastaDan
@TheRastaDan 4 года назад
"Yes! Ptolemy would kick in!" darn, I wish my math teacher would have been that enthusiastic
@Emma-rw8yo
@Emma-rw8yo 4 года назад
What a fantastic host. I was wondering why you were complaining about editing it all until I finished and saw it was 38 minutes. She taught so well, so clearly, and so interestingly that I barely noticed that much time had passed
@ravpanda037
@ravpanda037 4 года назад
"our inversion is a completely different animal" love that
@thirunarayanansampat2967
@thirunarayanansampat2967 4 года назад
Just amazing explanation! wow so many concepts described so elegantly and how they are so intertwined to come up with something so beautiful
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