Dante and John are two of the godfathers of modern bodybuilding! I look up to both of them immensely and would love to hear more about your application of their methods
@@phdeadlift I agree, although different tiers with higher volumes i switch sometimes to PushPullLegs (like the one from John Meadows in M&S) :) good luck with Your goals and hope You will get that pro card!
Thank you for these vids. It's great to see people that have achieved your level of success & how you've learned to program what works best for you. That's something I've been focusing on more for the last couple years, I only wish I had learned to do it sooner.
This is awesome!!! Best of both worlds!! Impossible not to get disgustingly huuuuuge with this approach, Ben!! Wish all the best in the pursuit of the Pro Card and getting the World Strongest Pro BB’s title from Stan! Hahahaha cheers my man!
I just did a DC workout today. Felt great. I think I may add 1 exercise here or there just for a pump to fill in some gaps like you mentioned. Today that was rear delts
Love these kind of videos, would love to see more. I was thinking of combining both styles myself by just alternating blocks of both styles, but this is a more interesting way to do it
I'm definitely not at the league where this kind of specificity is suitable for me and my training (especially given I'm in lockdown), but I enjoyed the video a lot and learned a few things that may one day come in handy. So I'd like to hear more from this subject and your new programming style. Also, surprised to hear you're only 33.
Thanks for the info. I too have used DC training and found it very beneficial. Now, I find it difficult to not train with the same intensity that DC requires.
Big downside to DC training is how sore you are. I've lifted for three years and DC training is kicking my ass. I love it. My triceps and biceps are finally getting some real size.
You seem to bounce around from one coach to another. My first thought was, if these guys are so good, and they of course are (Meadows, Taylor), why all the change? What about loyalty? But, you are at the top of your field as a powerlifter, so I'm now wondering, at that level, do you almost need the change because the amount of progress a top athlete like yourself can make is so incremental, that maybe that's why all the change? Anyhow, I ordered your training program a few years ago and it was amazing! Thanks Ben.
Hi Ben, have you had a discussion about using two different training methods and the stimulus that would happen within the body? I hope the questions makes sense (not sure it does ☺️) but basically, will one method cancel out the effects of the other. I know it’s different muscle groups, but how does it effect your recovery? Nutritionally, will your protein/carb consumption be different than normal because of training methods. Hope the question makes sense, good luck regardless.
Great question. For MOST people, I don't think this method would work, for the reason you said: one method would essentially undermine the other; that is, trying to combine high volume MD sessions with the higher intensity DC ones would lead to a clusterfuck. For ME, though, let's be real... I'm not going to get that much stronger if I'm not training specifically for PL. Sarcoplasmic hypertrophy via higher volume is the "better" answer; the movement rotation and split and RP sets simply allow for more straightforward and consistent programming.
Hey Ben, love your videos man. I'm a big fan of John's programs and was wondering if you could give me your opinion on what program(s) of his would be the most ideal for a natural builder. I'm currently doing High Evolutionary, but I'm finding that I have a hard time recovering from the volume.
DC is too low frequency, more than low volume, for most. It’s good for the legs and lower back, but pretty average elsewhere. It’s also arranged in a way that is quite annoying to warm up if you do much movement prep to prepare for the all out sets. MD is superior in almost every way, and if you want to add in the intensity of DC you can easily do a rest pause set as a top set per the heavy exercise of the day. Good luck with the gains
What are your thoughts on dante claiming to hit a specific muscle group at an average of 96 times or 105 times a year, rather than the standard bodybuilding split where you hit muscle group at average 52 times a year. I made an entire 1 year doggcrapp program on my diary but still my average ranges from 70 to max 72 times per a year a muscle group, thoughts on blast ond cruise on DC, hope you answer this ben, your opinion will be highly helpfullllllllll........... god bless.......
I'm really impressed with the way you're programming nowadays, it's quite brilliant, and of course I'd like to know more about this system. I also have one question about the bench press: Do you think that improving the military press is needed for a big bench, or could you just improve the incline bench and then do isolation movements for the front delts? (Based on you) I ask because it's hard for me to see the benefit of expending recovery resources doing overhead presses when you could also use the upper chest in the incline.
I'll do more then! With regard to the bench, I think a HIGH incline is probably even superior to the OHP in a powerlifting context, because you're not putting any stress on the lower back (which are stabilizers already in the squat and bench) and you'll get the same or more stimulation for the front delts and upper pecs, which are going to be more primary movers in horizontal pressing than the lateral or rear delts.
