I have known Jacob Grey for years. They make fantastic rifles. When I heard they were doing a 2011, I assumed it would be nosebleed-priced. I was shocked when I heard the price. Jeez, it is a nice pistol, and I love it. It's a real bargain! JG uses the best aerospace materials to build this; the design and synergy in the gun are perfect, and the build uses aerospace specs and tolerances. I thought I would have to change the grip, but it works just fine thank you very much. I always wanted a gun designed and built by rocket scientists-literally, rocket men.
I really like the way you hold Jacob Grey. You look really good holding Jacob Grey in your hands. You look like you're having a great time behind Jacob Grey. That's pretty impressive how you've gotten 1000 rounds out of Jacob Grey with no lube or cleaning. What ammo do you mostly use? I'd like to know what kinda loads Jacob Grey prefers. Did I mention how impressed I am with how firmly you held on, despite Jacob Grey being so smooth and tight? And please be careful, you and Jacob Grey should pace yourselves. I hope you both shoot many more mixed loads with no issues.
Well if you scored jacob (I just had to...) grey (4 inch) B+ How much did you score the equivalent staccato? Or should I investigate the channel history further to find out? (Sounds like a pleasure task, as I enjoy the content, but I'm curious)
@1911Syndicate Great review of a weapon I have been waiting to hear more about. Something to think about......This is the very first pistol to be mass produced by Jacob Grey Firearms. It may not be perfect, by your metrics, at least. But how many first-time makers have you experienced that introduce a weapon of this quality, reliability and performance on their very first effort? Especially in a 1911/2011 format! Imagine what the next models from Jacob Grey will be like. Also, I don't know too many people in the firearms world who would balk at using a firearm with a man's name. John Moses Browning comes to mind.........Samuel Colt.......Mikhail Kalashnikov (bet nobody ever oiled him up)......you get the idea. I personally like the idea of a 100% US made, all metal double stack that maintains the grip dimensions and overall weight of a GI 1911. Especially one that runs flawlessly.
Tonight on 1911 Syndicat : Jake over indulged in nose candy, Jacob Grey is definitely not related to Bruce Gray and has a premature mag ejecting problem, and and someone went way into the wilderness to express their political opinion on Crispy's house.
I'm a lefty also, so i'm glad you brought up the whole holster problem. If i'm going to drop 2500 on a pistol, the frame needs to be stainless steel, like Bul Armory, or at least a steel frame 4140HT or 4330HT.
I have over 12k rounds down range with my Staccato P with zero issues. None not even a light primer strike. I do shoot quality ammunition but that is still a huge comfort to me. I have only changed the spring one time… it just runs…
I think Jacob Grey is right there. I agree with the name thing. If they had released this with a diff name, and found a way to come in at where Bul Armory is somehow they would be calling this another "staccato killer". Especially because of the lack of distribution Bul is having right now.
Metal grip, street price sub 2500 all day, dont need a mortgage to buy extra mags, better trigger, comes with optic plates, and the warranty isnt void if you sneeze on it. Seems like staccato has serious competition. Also it seems like people are dumping extra money in aftermarket upgrades to be fully content with their staccatos. Jacob is g2g from the box.
The grip was 100% the reason I never gave it a second look. Now that you’ve pointed out the name thing I’m not a better grip would get me to come around
The frame and grip are aluminum the slide is stainless steel. That threw me off hard enough that I had to go look it up 😂 we've done a couple of them at our shop and the safety fitment on both kinda sucked and they also aren't contoured to the gun properly. Grip texture isn't as aggressive as I'd like but besides that seem well built when it comes to fit and finish
I still haven't warmed up to 2011's. It's hard to jump ship after over 40 years of 1911's. That said, that's not a bad looking gun, but I'm not a fan of the choice of trigger. That would have to go but that's just personal preference and easy to change. You mentioned it has a pretty good trigger for the price point. For $2500 it better have a damn good trigger, not just a decent trigger... It doesn't cost much or take that much time to do a really good 1911 trigger.
I had the chance to check one of these out last wek and was impressed. It is more comfortable in the hand then my Staccato to me. However I don't care for some of the design choices. Namely the big silver screw in the trigger guard. That said if you like it, it seems very solid to me.
Apparently they’re a new hidden gem, if you get one that runs. Seems they either do what yours did or they won’t run a full mag without problems 🤷♂️ can’t say personally but a few customers have mentioned em.
I've shot a bunch of nice 2011's and the TWC9 is a SHOOTER, holy smokes. I do like the gun. PS. My buddies TWC9 was breaking at around 2lbs out of the box.
Mine has 1500 rounds so far.. no cleaning yet. Just Oiled it before 1st range day and again about 1/2 way through the 1st 1000 rounds.. I will clean it before my next range day with it.. 1500 rounds is good enough data for me.. GTG ! I like this little Commander!
Ok great review but where I am right now is , which gun would you buy right now between staccato C2 or the TWC9 can you please answer that for me. Thank you
Jacob Gray or Cosaint Arms COS21? They both were local but I ended going with the COS 21 3.5” barrel ported . Happy with it but I’m sure this one is great also
I’ve shot both and I think the new Bul Armory Tac Pro 4.25” and 5” full rail, ported versions, are far better than the Jacob Gray. You guys should check em out. They’ll make you like Turk guns
The grip was my reason for not buying it last week. I love that it has a aluminum grip module cause we know how expensive they are from other companies. I do have a staccato and they are great guns I wish staccato would do a factory aluminum grip. I think jacob gray would have a pretty popular gun if they added a aggressive texture to it. I know the machine time to add texture takes longer so it would cost a little more but I would definitely pay a little more if I had that option. But they definitely gotta fix the loose ambi safety staccato has a little play in theirs as well but it definitely looks like a little less.
Biggest mistake was price. He should have made it $500-1k less than what it's at now and he would have the market locked. No one would buy a staccato except the people that have excess money to blow.
Went to a local shop to pick up the new staccato C, saw this gun on their display counter. I held it and it was interesting, but I didn't like the grip, don't know who Jacob Grey is, and I wasn't a fan of the overall look. I left with the Staccato. It's cool to see other companies come into the 2011 game though, and I am sure there will be some die hards soon.
Side note. Look closer at the the Checkmate , Tisas and staccato mags I personally cab not tell the difference between then other then marking and base pads. Rumor has it checkmate makes Staccato's mag for them
I fully agree. I bought a COS11 from one of my LGS and it was woefully out of spec, wish I had some more honest reviews to watch or read as it would have saved me time and money, as the pistol is currently there for warranty work, with no timeline of completion of the rework given…
@@notkimjongun2283 very unusual! My experience with Cosaint Arms has been amazing.. one of my favorite brands these days. My COS11 ‘s have been great shooters.. I optioned mine up and had built . Normal warranty turn around is about 2 weeks. I am sure your pistol will come back and be a great shooter..
Love your content, went to purchase one today and in handling the gun safety was not fitted well actually it was loose on one side not cool for a $2,500 gun.
Great video as always I agree. I bought this over a Staccato P for a few reasons: I simply wanted something different that everyone doesn’t already have Staccato are overpriced and overhyped. I rented a Staccato P and compared it to my Bul Armory SAS Tac ii and I prefer my Bul - it felt better, has a better trigger and my Bul has 1700 rounds and I’m still waiting for my first failure. Both cut for an optic and my Bul was about $700 less Once I spend $2500 I don’t want a plastic grip. The TWC is metal
I bought a tisas "Ashley" and the New tisas mac 9 ds. I would be interested in a staccato or something "high end", but in France, it's twice the price than the us....and very few guns and differents models. So sad ..
My only gripe is a cosmetic one. Full length dust cover with a conventional machined slide profile just looks "OFF" to me. Monolithic slides give a much nicer profile ro the appearance of the firearm. If it runs, it runs, if its accurate and reliably functioning its a decent piece.
Now Coke is Coke... Sprite is a Coke, Nehi Orange is a Coke. Diet Coke is not Coke. I like the review. as always you make me laugh at some point. Stacatto or Jacob Grey? Or Jacob Grey or Nighthawk TRS? Or Stacatto or Nighthawk TRS? Just one more. Jacob Grey or Tisas? I handled a couple in Dallas. I like the feel of the Jacob Grey in hand... WAIT! The weight.. Oh never mind. I could have sworn One was an all steel frame. It was a tad heavier. The aesthetics of the machining is pleasing to the eye. Dry firing, it has a nice trigger. Now a torture test would be fascinating.
I have a Bul Armory Tac 5" and a steel framed Staccato P, and names aside, if they made this gun with a steel frame, and a more aggressive grip texture I think, for me, it would be a super attractive option to get a aluminum gripped 2011 for sub $3k.
@@dukedynasty they're both great guns, but for me they serve two different roles. The bul is my range gun, the staccato is my edc. I was carrying the bul armory for several months, but the trigger on mine breaks at about 2.3ish lbs, which is awesome for a stock gun, but a little light for carrying imo. My staccato is a little more reasonable to carry at about 3.5 lbs, and the chopped beaver tail is more comfortable as well. Plus I wanted to put an Aimpoint Acro on it, which wasn't an option for my Bul Armory since it's RMR only. Overall I don't think you can go wrong with either pistol though.
Being a retired Machinist and With Today awesome Five Axis CNC why would you try to grab a Piece of 🥧 from Staccato at the Same Price. Maybe been in space too long. Jacob Grey add texture on all sides ,drop price $300 to $400 then Hang on you just took Half on Staccato pie 🥧🥧 also Bring out a compact Carry to put little more Hurt. But be careful the you don’t Screw with Bul Armory Please Fit the Safety for Us Lefty’s. Yes Jake you are Right Cutting Aluminum and Brass is like cutting Butter, zero inserts wear ,hold very tight Tolerance, last with Today’s CNC one Man can run Three to Five CNC
Staccato Staccato Staccato, blah blah blah. The Staccato is a Gateway drug. It is a a solid choice but I like variety. I had never had a 1911/2011 until I bought a Staccato P last year. Now I own five. Four double stacks and one single. I am the type that would buy this because I already have a Staccato but Jacob might make a good side chick, or dude or gun or whatever.
Outtakes “I sleep with Jacob Gray”. (When asked what your nightstand gun is.) “Jacob Gray is my side piece.” (When asked what you carry.) “Jacob Gray never leaves my side.” (When asked what you EDC.) “I carried Jacob Gray into the wedding.” (When asked what you carried to the wedding.)
I handled two different ones and they were not even as nice as the Prodigy. Trigger was mediocre and the safety was very mushy. Haven’t shot one but from handling the two I have no desire to.
Every time I see this Gun with its unusual and odd front double cut matching both slide adn frame, it makes think it needs the Flying Tigers teeth murail in its maw. ;
Staccato is about $2400-$2800 depending on which model “P” you get for reference… price is what most double stack 1911’s are selling for if not under “the norm”. 🤷🏻♂️
@@ultraspank8479 $3k is a lot for a pistol, even if you’re not poor. I’m not spending $3k on a no name pistol. If I’m spending that much I’m getting a staccato, or Wilson combat, or some other big name
@@ultraspank8479You sound like you’re trying too hard to be funny. Who the hell spends $3k on a brand new nameless pistol, when there are tried and true version out there for the same price?