Very agreed. Don't like the either or mindset some have with this. All of the places the glorify as great places have cars so it's really not that cars are completely bad like they keep pushing for N. America.
Hear Hear! well said bro. I sold my car during pandemic. I changed my life to be car free. I use to Drive or Uber to bars I use to go to that was far, now I choose my activities based on what is less car dependent.
You know darn well this isn't how most "car free" buildings will be in most cities. If you look at past American "car free" buildings aka buildings before cars were prevalent. They were prison shacks for poor people. Big over crowded skyscrapers. 50 floors of 1 room apartments for everyone and they fit in as many as possible because they didn't have to build parking spaces for each residence. Even the CURRENT illegal dwellings in NYC apartments are jam packed basement 1 rooms, because once again. Since they aren't required to give each residence a parking spot, they jam in as many individual renters as possible so can charge the most amount of units for rent.
I mean this sound good on paper but if we are talking about Europe this is a very bad comparison as Europe has public transit everywhere and its designed in a way where public transit is most of the time faster and cheaper than drive which isnt the reality of US
@@Zet1988And that would be the easiest thing to set up in America - Public Transit options instead of our insane addiction to cars. Sadly we used to have the world's greatest railroad network and General Motors, Firestone Tire plus Standard (Chevron) Oil were all convicted for conspiring to destroy such a national treasure. It requires willpower to let go of the car culture, however could you imagine agrihoods instead of car-filled 'burbs and the endless congestion of our urban sprawl?
@@LeeeroyJenkins Yes, some of those tenement apartments existed but they weren’t the only kinds of housing. What makes a city walkable or unnecessary for a car is the proximity to grocery stores, schools, and entertainment. The most walkable cities in America remain some of the most expensive properties in the country.
@@BoogieBrewoh for sure I guess the concern I have is just like electrifying everything before the grid can support it , this seems like the cart before the horse kind of thing
Wow, totally missing the point at the end. Did you notice how all the buildings were tall and the shadows of one building reached the next building? Without cars and wide roads you can reduce the heat island effect, cooling the local area without using energy.
Do you have any idea how much all the stucco and concrete retains heat in Phoenix metro, you literally feel the heat radiating from the walls of structures and sidewalks at 1am and later
I used to live about 10minutes by bike from work, and after 6months of trying to find a route where I wouldn’t get murdered by a car without having to make a major detour, I gave up. We need more of places like this.
They need to get like California and give bikers the SIDEWALK. Why should bikers be up against dangerous motor vehicles in the middle of the street going a fraction of the speed limit? I feel bad for bikers in cities with laws that put them in the streets like that.
You want it now. There are several issues with this. 1. Elderly. When you are 80 and have trouble walking etc, you bet most of you want cars. 2. People do not realize this is a way for corporations to make money out of you. You need help moving some stuff? Rent. You need to get your kid home from training or friend? The retail stores will most probably have high prices because they know their customers cant drive to the next store 3. No nature. For me, car is essential to move and go to different cool places and especially nature reserve. Without car you are stuck. 4. In most places you build underground garages these days. I mean you do you. But this blind obsession with no negative sides brought up shows there is a obsession.
Guess what? Even if you live there and work outside you will face the same problem because it is a staged community and the rest of the city is not like that
Been living out here in Japan for awhile. You don’t even have to be in a major city to have good public transportation. Way different then when I was living in Phoenix.
The white man likes to lay claim to many "inventions." Just saw a video where they claim to have created a traffic light free intersection. Ummm... no. They have those all over Thailand.
People always tend to go back to the basics because it works best. Walkable communities next to a train station. Literally how we all used to live 100 years ago
I truly believe the last 100 years of America was mostly a fluke and an experiment.... The idea of suburbia was only capable because the USA was still young with lots of land, and because of oil abundance. Those two things are what allowed cheap, sprawled housing. It was probably a great time to be alive, but also short lived and unsustainable, thus things go back to the way they used to be. People want the American dream, but the problem is that it was an anomaly. During most of human history humans didn't just have access to such an abundant energy source or such vast amounts of land. I don't think people were evil for wanting their own suburban house, but again it was all limited. As the USA becomes more developed/populated, and as oil runs out, we will have no choice but to return to this type of living....
@@hhjhj393 the era of abundance in the USA is definitely coming to end. Most American cities are pretty much running out of land, and the ones with declining populations are going bankrupt
If you lived in a city, yes. However, in the rural areas where your food is grown, we don't and never did live this way. Enjoy your force-fed crickets and fake food when you relocate to one of these prison camps.
@@skywatcher6864 cities give space for rural areas. If everyone had a house, big plot of land and drove everywhere there wouldn’t be much space for anything else.
That kind of thinking is why the world's in the mess it's in. Rural areas were long before there were cities. If you flew over any state or province (in Canada), in a Cessna, you'd quickly realize that vast quantities of wilderness areas are still not touched by humanity. I've done it, and I was truly amazed. The MSM presstitutes do a mighty fine job brainwashing people who've never left the cities for as much as a day, to see what is actually outside of them. Just look at this video; see how closely the "jail houses" are? That's one of the main reasons why so many people have left the cities to live in rural areas. My question is...why did they bother to leave a few feet between buildings, when they could've easily built them as military / correctional facilities...row houses? 😏 They're blowing smoke up the butts of people who can't critically think for themselves. @@circle11111
Living a car free existence is freedom, no car payments, no insurance or registration fees, no gas, no maintenance/repair bills, no having to find parking etc. I work from home and everything I need is within walking distance. Not to mention there’s great transit nearby. Yea I live in the NYC metro area!
@@jamesbacon4207 um... white concrete still absorbs a lot of heat. Yes, color has an effect but that is based on the same material being compared to itself in a different color. So "white" pavement would also make environments significantly hotter although slightly less than black pavement.
White building materials produce 50 percent less generate heat than black material buildings. That is far more than "slightly less".@@danielthompson3928
They call this experimental, but I think it's really just a reversion back to how people lived 100 years ago. Only recently in human history were cars invented and necessitated integration into our communities. These communities are more sustainable, sure. However, they also foster a sense of community and social spirit that has been crushed by American suburban sprawl.
Lol, 100 years ago you might start off in the city as a fresh immigrant, however tons of people had 5-10 kids and farms. Then on those farms, they had servant/field hand quarters either in the farm house or in separate houses. This is a terrible idea that is similar to what plantations had. It is dressed up a bit nicer though. To each there own, but acting like this is some great idea and revolutionary complex is either uninformed or disingenuous. There is a reason why almost every immigrant that comes here triesbto have a vehicle and a house. It is a privilege that our ancestors fought for, worked for, and sacrificed for. Sad to see so many people not realize that, appreciate it, nor want to take advantage of it
Disingenuous? What could I possibly be hiding? I don't have some secret agenda while propagating more sustainable and livable urban planning, lol. Drawing on my own experience instead, I can say that European countries prioritize people, not cars when building communities and I think it's a good idea to see that implemented Stateside. @@timmythompson2186
this is literally how 90% of the world live even today. americans are so out of touch its insane. only in america is it normal to drive literally everywhere and live 10 miles away from a grocery store
Europe is sort of like this. You have tons of towns surrounded by farmland that are very pedestrian friendly and centers where cars are not allowed at all.
It’s cool & great temporary environment. Problem is that there is no ownership for the renters, so car free is good, owning their own place would be good too.
Some people go their entire lives just renting either but it's financially impossible for them to purchase property or become they like the freedom to move whenever and not be responsible for maintenance and repairs. I would love to own my own home if I could but also understand not everyone wants that.
This community is great for young 20-somethings transitioning into home-ownership later in life if the market even gets any better. This Is definitely short term (1-3 years) targeted toward a young professional demographic.
Honestly the West of Texas doesn't need it but there are walking neighborhoods latched to business districts. There's ample room for cars unlike overly unplanned and crowded cities. Then you have Houston, which there is cheap petrol to go around
@@WhiteWolfos Huston isn't a city, it's a giant parking lot. A real city is something like Tokyo where only 1 in 30 own a car and all shops are around the corner.
The car manufacturers during the 40s and 50s bought up most of public transit/rail systems then eventually phased them out by pushing for car sales. This is exactly why we have the car dependence we have today. The government should have never allowed that to happen.
Car dependency? It’s a freedom. We are not tethered to a public transit system, like light rail, that is a fixed system. Buses can move with demand, while rail is fixed. Also, you folks are too gullible for this “walking community,” while failing to see the agenda of owning nothing and liking it.
Yes, as a car enthusiast I support this. However, mandatory IQ tests and at least decently challenging driver's tests (like one I took in Germany) would be a more efficient solution. Forces those who cannot drive properly or think critically to carpool/use public transportation. Also repeal the CAFE, they are the reason why 9000lb SUV's are a thing when they shouldn't be. 60s-90s car sizes were perfect.
this is been norm in Europe and Asia for years and america only finally catching up . they need to built up more infrastructure such as bike parking in metro station like amsterdam
Older American cities were like this the ones before cars. Just when cars got invented it really just like… spread out (100% def no Correlation to shareholder investment and value creation)…
@@theendurance In the suburbs your bad neighbors don't stomp over your head or make it seem like they bodyslam the wall twice a day to shake the apartment.
Hot weather would be the real test for a car-less lifestyle? Pretty sure the video already mentioned transit and lyft exists around the neighbourhood.....
Imagine the cost it will be over time for riding the car sharing. Trapped audience so they'll have to accept whatever the cost is. Along with delivery businesses. Oh boy
I really don't get this comment. Our current system of car dependent development is very tyrannical in the fact there's way too much traffic that prevents you from getting from point a to point b. You have no other option but to buy more gas and keep buying cars. Car ownership is a financial burden
@@jameslongstaff2762Lol then you’re clearly not paying attention to what they are trying to do to us. All they have to do is throw in censors to allow people to go in and out and they are trapped in there until allowed out… exactly what the govt wants to do
I live in Seoul. I used to drive occasionally like everyone else. But there has been some stupid change in our law that made it dangerous for me to work and maintain my job simultaneously. I chose work and gave up driving, resenting the new law. But honestly, the last few months without driving was not that bad. With subways and buses connecting everywhere, and with my two legs I am doing great. I did not realize that the risks associated with driving caused some burden in my heart until I stopped driving.
As someone with limited mobility and a slew of kids (I have to all 2 carts worth of food every week) this wouldn't work for me personally but I can see how this would appeal to young healthy people with no kids. Or actually even retired people with full mobility. I hope more places adopt this model as it seems like it a wonderful fit for many people. :) Maybe not in more extreme climate areas but in mild areas it would be perfect.
The massive weekly shop only exists because the shops are spread out far away from a lot of people, if the shops are close and easy to get to you don't have to go and fill your car full of shopping in this massive errand, going to the shops is a quick and convenient activity. A city designed around walkability and great transport is going to be much more accessible for a wider range of disabilities and mobility limited people than a car dependant city will ever be, particularly the poorer people in that demographic who might not be able to afford to drive or those with disabilities incompatible with driving. And it's much more enjoyable and safer for kids to grow up in a more connected community with open space to play and not dangerous child squashing suv's and wide roads with high speed traffic. It also gives more independence to kids in their youth without having to constantly nag parents for lifts. Car lite societies work much better for everyone when properly implemented.
This is how it should’ve been done from the beginning. I can tell you back before I could drive it was very difficult to really do anything living in the suburbs. You always had to find someone to give you a ride to do just about anything. When you can drive you then have to budget for fuel, maintenance, and the eye watering car insurance.
Love the idea of car free living and hope that more people warm up to it in place like Minnesota, but I can see why folks wouldn't want to be walking in below zero temps. Someone invent a temperature controlled city-sized bubble please.
Whittier, Alaska is an extreme example of (almost) everything existing under one roof. Montreal have extensive underground connections between buildings completely covered from the elements. Truth is, when everything so close to each other, walking in subzero isn't that bad or even a hassle.
@@proallnighter It's literally only an area of about 20 acres...and the free rides are only temporary. I was paying $1200 for a 3br/2ba apartment in Phoenix from '18-'21 then when my lease was up for renewal in Sept '21 it jumped to $2100....$1400+ is NOT a good deal...
There's serious demand for more walkable and transit accessible residential areas. It's some of the most sought after real estate in america as it's so so rare. Pretending this is some scheme to increase profits and not just the market reacting to this newer type of demand is just disingenous
@@NiekNooijens I prefer my 800 acres of freedom and fun. Enjoy your prison cell apartment, having nothing, owning nothing, and drugged enough to be happy.
"Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better." I think we could build walkable cities without making it look like prison blocks or government housing.
I live in a condo complex of three big buildings, and the way they lined it up is they have like a courtyard in the middle, and all the windflow goes through there. In the summer, that area is cool and shaded, with some trees lined up in the edges and in the middle, and a pool nearby. It's great! PS: Parking's underground.
I hope they REALLY planned this out. Looks like a Maze Hazard for first responders to get through around the buildings to put fire out or other emergencies.
This is great when you’re single or just a couple who don’t have lots of groceries. It’s hard to manage with kids, baby strollers, etc. Also tough to move large items like furniture.
Agreed. What you want is convenience without drama. Human interaction is not always the best..... Most cities have a history of crime, violence and social issues. What you want is the convenience a city offers while simultaneously combatting the undesirables and bad actors. I am very interested in housing, it's a complex problem. Ultimately though you have to manage the population. No system can accommodate an infinite amount of people. The more people you have the more competition for resources of any kind. People will fight for parking spaces, apartments, restaurant openings, trash, anything. Not to mention there simply are bad actors, people who will see a system then immediately think about how they can take advantage of it. The problem with cities like this is that you need lots of social cohesion and trust. The last thing you need is to leave your apartment only to be greeted by a gang that intimidates you and tries to extort you. This is why people prefer houses that they can defend and maintain themselves VS an apartment where you are reliant on the management, and by nature of the system management is more interested in making easy money than actually solving problems.
We need more of these neighborhoods in CA and Nevada!!! With the weather being hot they just need to build breezeways or something that will allow folks to shelter from the brutal summer sun and heat. The less cars the better air quality and folks will save $ on car insurance, car maintenance etc. it’s a win win. Let’s get this in Vegas, Reno, LA, San Francisco, San Diego, Etc… the future of housing is Smaller homes, mobile homes, convertible homes and small walkable communities. The young generation is not our grandparents generation. With homes being so expensive and cost of maintenance being so high plus mortgage rates this is what the new trend will be.
I lived in the apartments next door, when Culdesac was a trailer park. I'd have moved in if it were built then. Been following this for a while and it sounds like an awesome idea, especially for the area. Practically walking distance to ASU. It's a long walk, but still.
This is really scary. This is the ten minute city that has been talked about. Now and for the past century we sometimes sorta imprisoned ourselves mentally and didn’t get out much. Think about the 9-5 and all the talk about breaking free from it. Well if these cities come into effect we really won’t be capable of escaping if they suddenly decide to not let us leave. “To see the world, things dangerous to come to, To see behind walls, to draw closer, To find each other and to feel. That is the purpose of life.”
I have never been to NYC but from what I have seen it looks horrible to live in.... I was recently looking at a condo in Aurora, CO and I realized just how bad cities are.... The more of certain groups of people you have the more violence, decay, and just vileness you encounter. At the end of the day people want safe, efficient, affordable places to live. I don't want to have to fear my car being vandalized, or some strung out druggie trying to rob me. Nor do I want to deal with aggressive drivers, scammers, etc.... I genuinely think there is nothing we can really do to solve any of this OTHER than dealing with bad actors. There is literally nothing you can build that will solve human competition. If resources are scarce humans will engage in any tactic necessary to gain resources. You have to deal with bad people, you just have to. If your society can't do that then it will collapse eventually. I mean lets think about it, if your body can't fight infection or cancer cells you die..... Complex systems NEED order and stability. If you can't maintain that then the structure will fail. It really is that simple. Simple structures can exist on their own, but complex structures must be built from simple structures. If the simple structures fail then so does the complex structure. You need consistency, efficiency, order, if you have a good worker, but he can't perform his work because he is getting harrassed by gangs, thugs, druggies, scammers, and other bad actors then he won't be able to perform his function. Overtime this damage accumulates and the society collapses. If my T Cells stop working and cancer proliferates in my body I grow tumors and eventually die.
North Korea has been an advanced, car-free society for ages, smh. They have implemented a unique and forward-thinking transit model where only the special government personnel and diplomats need to use cars. I have never heard any of their citizens complain.
right, america is truly doomed if this is what "walkability" looks like. americans will come up with all sorts of nonsense instead of just building denser urban areas and public transportation.
I wouldn't be able to live in a place like that because of a mobility disability. Having to walk to everything is too painful and depending on distance sometimes just impossible for me. But it seems like a good option for people who can walk everywhere without problems and who want to live in a community where they're constantly interacting with neighbors.
Could you use a mobility scooter, an electric wheelchair, or an adaptive bike or tricycle? Those options work better in a less car-oriented environment.
Let’s just tell the truth… with rising cost of rent and low wages the working class can no longer afford a car and insurance. The rich is making sure all you can afford is RENT and free conversation
WRONG! Roosevelt Island in NEW YORK CITY was the first car free and dog free community in 1977. We also had electric buses. And the first AVAC vaccum garbage tube system (no garbage trucks needed) with 4000 residents en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt_Island
First big vr just came out too. So we can all be ultra-entertained in our pods. And don’t forget all the ai graphics and fake audio & videos that just came out last year, thats the first generation of them. Soon every american will have the chance to own there own pod and vr system: you’ll be able to see the world, watch live sports, do all of your shopping, or play the new grand theft auto, all from the safety and isolation of your pod. Wonder how long lifespans will be and how high the iq will be in the future. It’ll be like an ant colony.
This is honestly ridiculous that this actually makes the news in the united states. This should be the norm. Im not saying completely car free but being able to live without a car, to need to drive to fullfil the baisc necessicties of life, is honestly a joy.
this is funny, this is the way it used to be in Mexico city for many decades, actually I think there still many places like this over there, afford a car and parking in Mexico city is not cheap!
I don’t like living on top of people. I lived in Romania for a bit and at first it was convenient to just be able to walk to the store but then being stacked on top of everyone, I just got annoyed. I’d spend the .25 in gas that it cost to drive to the store if I meant being away from people. I think a lot of Americans see their European and Asian counterparts live like this but either don’t know or forget that North Americans are very distant people when it comes to personal space.
Uh diddums, isn't it hard imagining a car free life? Pathetic. Folks will be proud to not show up via yet another automobile that the planet doesn't need. I always surprise folks when I use my bike and public transit to visit. It's truly liberating. Live Free Or Drive!
Developer: What if we make an apartment complex but rent out the first floor as commercial to really bank?! Investor: Nobody gonna want to live there. Marketing Department:
Netherlands does it by bike. Google it. There Are car accesses behind the buildings...it's pedestrian friendly it's not that cars don't come close. Not mark btw.
Very myopic, do you honestly believe delivery isn't available to this community? We use electric trikes and cargo bikes for our small biz and avoid diving whenever possible. Did you miss the part about the rail line and public transit options, (plus e bikes?). Sure beats being enslaved to an out-of-control car culture. Live Free Or Drive!
Because the infrastructure is built around your car. And that needs to change. If you go to Japan for example, which didn't build wide stroads and highways, but rail instead, the train is faster, cheaper and better than any car. Tokyo to osaka is only 2,5 hours by train, yet it's 6 hours by car!
@@LaJuanHugheswhich means you should build a train between those cities. Prioritizing cars over everything else is a political decision which can be reversed.
The community should tell all services to park at the perimeter of their hippie community and walk. If they don’t demand outsiders to do this, then the hippie community is a bunch of hypocrites.
@@jak71113 I don't think it's a hippy thing. Walking is very good for your heart and burns several hundred calories an hour, which means heart disease and obesity is lower. If you commute by car and have a desk job, you don't get that benefit unless you exercise on a treadmill, which a lot of people don't want to do. Lots of people love walkable communities because they let you do what you want to do while getting some level of cardio in at the same time.
@@jak71113 please elaborate on how not wanting everyone driving cars in the community where people walk is hypocritical. Is it hypocritical to have a privately owned road and get public services delivered to your house?
