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a nice product from Ramanujan -- featuring 3 important constants! 

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@MichaelRothwell1
@MichaelRothwell1 11 месяцев назад
Piece of cake. All he did was add a variable x, take logs (to convert infinite product to infinite sum), differentiate, simplify, integrate again, use a bunch of substitutions and a series representation of sec, and a (familiar) integral representation of Catalan's constant. ;)
@idjles
@idjles 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, and Ramanujan did that while you were making your coffee for breakfast.
@mohammedsenhaji
@mohammedsenhaji 11 месяцев назад
And don't forget that you have to check the conditions for every use of limit, derivation, integration rules for series and integrals involved. If written rigourously it is at least 6 pages.
@giannipiccioni8411
@giannipiccioni8411 11 месяцев назад
​@@mohammedsenhaji it would be only one line with a long enough page
@AncestorDad
@AncestorDad 11 месяцев назад
New theory or formula may seems easy becos the inventor or discoverer tried many ways to simplify it as direct n simple as possible before presented it to you. But before that, nobody had the correct and simplest answer. They have tried many old, new, harder ways in order to find the correct one that is error proof. And this isn't really that easy or obvious, otherwise it would have been discovered way before he/she did, it is the unique creativity and ingenuity that lead each scientist made the contribution of their own. The sea of knowledge is so vast, no single person is smart or creative enough to discover n understand everything in the universe. We should respect and give the credit to all the scientist for all the discovery n invention they made, even if it is only 1 small equation, cos every equation count.
@darkseid856
@darkseid856 11 месяцев назад
He predicted 4G technology . Truly ahead of his time .
@sahilsingh6048
@sahilsingh6048 11 месяцев назад
Tumnay profiel picture change karli kya
@om5621
@om5621 11 месяцев назад
...what? he had nothing to do with even the internet whatsoever, is this some kind of joke
@Cccctyt
@Cccctyt 11 месяцев назад
​@@om5621also black holes
@aug3842
@aug3842 11 месяцев назад
@@om5621in the exponential there is the term 4G/π, and if u ignore the π in the denominator and treat G as just a letter rather than Catalans constant then it reads ‘4G’, which Ramanujan found well before the internet was created
@cristiandalessandro599
@cristiandalessandro599 4 месяца назад
​@@om5621 yes, that's pretty much the best, most unpredictable joke. Quite hard to not understand it
@endersteph
@endersteph 11 месяцев назад
At 15:14 he forgot to change the inside of the integral to arctan z / z dz, but it doesn't change the result because the integral goes to 0 in the limit because of the bounds
@robertveith6383
@robertveith6383 11 месяцев назад
arctan(z)/z dz. Don't forget the grouping symbols.
@wolfmanjacksaid
@wolfmanjacksaid 11 месяцев назад
Did he really do it by mistake? He wrote it again at 17:47
@martindedek2885
@martindedek2885 11 месяцев назад
I think he didn't want to substitute it to z, just the other two integrals. So I think that the mistake was that he changed the higher bound to tan(pi/4...), I think it should've been only pi/4... But still for X=1 it's 0 so the integral is irrelevant
@humbledb4jesus
@humbledb4jesus 11 месяцев назад
number theory is like getting a nasty sliver...you hate it, but you can't stop looking at it, picking at it, and finally getting knife to try and dig it out...
@Noam_.Menashe
@Noam_.Menashe 11 месяцев назад
Where do you see number theory here?
@polyhistorphilomath
@polyhistorphilomath 11 месяцев назад
@@Noam_.Menashe There's the product over factors of the form (1/(1-1/p))^c_k . That's probably a good indication number theory is involved.
@daburak2559
@daburak2559 11 месяцев назад
You watched the video and you thought of number theory?? How
@macicoinc9363
@macicoinc9363 11 месяцев назад
@@daburak2559euler’s prime product isn’t number theory? What is number theory to you if that isn’t apart of it?
@robertveith6383
@robertveith6383 11 месяцев назад
​* a part "Apart" means "separated by a distance."
@angeloluisrocattojunior3425
@angeloluisrocattojunior3425 9 месяцев назад
I'm wondering what else Ramanujan would produce and discover if he had lived more than 32 years.
@user-ej7sr3ow8b
@user-ej7sr3ow8b Месяц назад
He's probably just a messenger
@franksaved3893
@franksaved3893 11 месяцев назад
Why is all the stuff about Ramanujan always fckin' crazy? 😅
@Trueman571
@Trueman571 11 месяцев назад
That's awesome - from "the man who knew infinity "
@sanjogar
@sanjogar 11 месяцев назад
Ramanujan was an alien 😂👽
@slavinojunepri7648
@slavinojunepri7648 11 месяцев назад
What an awesome proof! Amazing to say the least.
@vasilisr7
@vasilisr7 11 месяцев назад
Thank you Michael
@ccg8803
@ccg8803 11 месяцев назад
Your videos are amazing, thank you! I cannot understand the views/quality ratio!
@idjles
@idjles 11 месяцев назад
I am sure the Ramanujan saw this identity immediately- he didn’t need 20 minutes of derivation to prove this.
@TheEternalVortex42
@TheEternalVortex42 11 месяцев назад
Ok well since you're "sure" I guess we know it for a fact
11 месяцев назад
this is a very common misbelief
@damascus21
@damascus21 9 месяцев назад
Ramanujan was a genius; he wasn't magic.
@idjles
@idjles 9 месяцев назад
@@damascus21 he is so far beyond us, it may as well be magic.
@yuseifudo6075
@yuseifudo6075 6 месяцев назад
​Nah @@idjles
@gp-ht7ug
@gp-ht7ug 11 месяцев назад
I miss the initial music of the videos. Very interesting video!
@user-zu5bv6sl5y
@user-zu5bv6sl5y 11 месяцев назад
It was a very fascinating content
@jawadibrahim2367
@jawadibrahim2367 11 месяцев назад
I was wondering for a solid minute why Newton's gravitational constant popped up in a mathematical result, only for it to be a different G in this case. I'm a little shook right now.
@minwithoutintroduction
@minwithoutintroduction 11 месяцев назад
رحلة شاقة لكنها ممتعة
@d.h.y
@d.h.y 8 месяцев назад
Imagine you are a professor and all of a sudden a student brings up this identity in one random morning, while he brings up some incomprehensible pi formula (1/π =...) in the other day 😱😱
@curtiswfranks
@curtiswfranks 11 месяцев назад
This one was pretty tricky.
@Velociraptor103
@Velociraptor103 11 месяцев назад
Quite cool
@evid-rz3nu
@evid-rz3nu 11 месяцев назад
nice video sir ji
@missoss
@missoss 9 месяцев назад
I love these random proof videos.
@euler73
@euler73 11 месяцев назад
Is "Oh look, we've got...." then new "we can play the same game again..." ? ;-)
@Maths_3.1415
@Maths_3.1415 11 месяцев назад
Interesting...
@Hexer1985
@Hexer1985 11 месяцев назад
Okay, great. So, the three important constants are e, G and \pi.
@natepolidoro4565
@natepolidoro4565 11 месяцев назад
Doesn't adding that n=0 term make the whole thing equal to zero as x->1?
@danmcalister2215
@danmcalister2215 11 месяцев назад
And then taking the log -> infinity?
@mohammedsenhaji
@mohammedsenhaji 11 месяцев назад
Yeah but he doesn't take the limit until substracting the term again.
@curtiswfranks
@curtiswfranks 11 месяцев назад
I think that this is the trickiest part.
@reeeeeplease1178
@reeeeeplease1178 10 месяцев назад
6:51 why don't we just view it (as he pointed out) as -pi/2 x sec(pi/2 x)? We should be able to integrate usec(u) with IBP, no?
@adogonasidecar1262
@adogonasidecar1262 11 месяцев назад
What happened at 14:21 when 4/Pi became Pi/4?
@adogonasidecar1262
@adogonasidecar1262 11 месяцев назад
Oh he corrected it at 15:00
@emanuellandeholm5657
@emanuellandeholm5657 11 месяцев назад
I don't know about you guys, but my little ape brain was screaming difference of squares factorization as soon as I saw factors of the form [ 1 - ( 1 / (2n + 1) )^2 ] to the f(n). Is that something to explore?
@evid-rz3nu
@evid-rz3nu 11 месяцев назад
love from india
@suzune8952
@suzune8952 11 месяцев назад
Its pretty normal deriving this stuff , it isnt an alien thing...
@taranmellacheruvu2504
@taranmellacheruvu2504 11 месяцев назад
How can you justify that the limit means an equality? Can’t the point at x=1 be different from the limit as x goes to 1?
@mohammedsenhaji
@mohammedsenhaji 11 месяцев назад
Are you talking about the left side ?
@taranmellacheruvu2504
@taranmellacheruvu2504 Месяц назад
@@mohammedsenhaji Yes. My bad
@erfanmohagheghian707
@erfanmohagheghian707 11 месяцев назад
I did the derivation of 1/cos(pi*x/2) on your behalf :) Thank you sir ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vA0Q4-JgdNU.html
@Packerfan130
@Packerfan130 11 месяцев назад
so many cheats, why bother doing the video at that point then?
@EphemeralEphah
@EphemeralEphah 11 месяцев назад
Would you want the video to be well over an hour long? I assume proving the integral representation of G is equal to the series definition would take quite a while and could be it's own video, and I imagine deriving the series representation of sec((pi/2)x) is not so simple either.
@zlodevil426
@zlodevil426 11 месяцев назад
A lot of his videos reference other videos, most reference ones in the past, and this one just references videos in the future. What’s the significant difference?
@TheEternalVortex42
@TheEternalVortex42 11 месяцев назад
All math is built on earlier work. It's fairly arbitrary which results we would want proven and which are considered known.
@cameronbigley7483
@cameronbigley7483 11 месяцев назад
​@@zlodevil426I don't mind referencing other videos, but I'd ptefer if an important step was already uploaded prior.
@samuelgoodman6067
@samuelgoodman6067 11 месяцев назад
@@EphemeralEphah It's actually one line. Use the Taylor series for arctan.
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