Cam I literally had the exact same problem building a cr80. Same washer. Its together now thankfully. Thanks for sending the drive chain so quickly. I Couldn't be happier with your store. 🤘
Working on my 99’ KDX200 engine. At 15, I’m not very experienced, but due to your videos and a manual... I’m on my way to a successful rebuild and an even more successful bike. Hopefully...
Gabe Williams I rebuilt my 01 kx 85 from the ground up at 13 ish and rebuilt a yfz 450 top and bottom end at 14 and now working on rebuilding my new 88 kx 250
Great job Cameron! Good to see someone on RU-vid doing a rebuild like a true professional. Notice how clean the engine parts are and how organized and patient he is going through the process. Video/sound quality also excellent!
Wow! This is the only channel ive seen where everything is done step by step and each step is explained. Ive searched youtube for months trying to find this.
Love your videos! Longtime removed from this sport which I grew up participating in. This reminds me of when my Pops and I would prep my bikes before amateur races. Wasn't uncommon at all to do this type of work after the season. Grew lots, turned to basketball which paid for school, now I'm a web dev. Your channel has inspired me to start looking for a bike and get back to enjoying what I always loved doing most - ridin dirty! Keep up the good work my friend, it's well received.
Good job you checked the shaft end plays. Another tip, take pics during dis-assembly so you have a reference to look at putting it back together. Take gears off the shafts and lay them in a line as they come apart, like the parts diagram exploded view, and take a pic of them. If you loose a part during cleaning it'll be apparent when you look back at the images.
I'm relieved to see you're using the oven for the casings. And yes you need to drop the bearing in the second you get it out of the oven or what happened there with the bearing sticking out will happen. By the time you pick up the can of cooling spray and use it that cases will have cooled too much, it should be fine without the spray so long as you don't hesitate putting the bearings in.
So awesome man!, I haven't rebuilt an engine in over 22 years it was a 350 small block in my 1971 blazer, I love watching detailed engine assembling like this! Your CR is going to be bad ass!
Sweet build! I blew up my 10’ husky TE250, so it’s getting rebuilt by a shop, the next time, I’m going to try it myself using your vid as guidance! Great job.
An inspection like you mentioned would have showed that... Even the best make mistakes Cameron. You could have pretended it never happened... I appreciate this video big time as it has taken the intimidation out of a bottom end rebuild that I will be doing to exchange faulty 17 cases for updated 18s on my 17 250sx. Thanks man and enjoy your Rocky Mountain weekend. I would go, but stuck working.
You do good work dude. Very meticulous. Great attention to detail. This engine will be way better than when it left the factory for sure. One thing I do is locate the gasket with the case bolts. Often it's not necessary, but on those few occasions when the gasket isn't a perfect fit, this helps avoid the bolts catching as you fit them blind later. I've known a gasket to get pulled out of position and then break at that point.
There are actual freeze sprays available as well. Dry ice is very good though, just remember to keep an window open and the cooler in the trunk while driving home from the supplier, co2 evaporating from the dry ice can make you sleepy in hurry. Good stuff, keep it up!
Hi Cameron, great video. Just a few points. I would not be too worried about localised heating of case before fitting crank. Aluminium soaks up heat very quickly & dissipates throughout the case with no obvious warping issues. Also when the engine is started it warms up unevenly anyway without any warping issues. I have found that more often than not, that cranks are a tighter fit in the LH case than in the RH. So I usually pull the crank into the LH case first & assemble everything in the LH case, then the RH case usually just slides on. Some cranks are a tight fit in both bearings, so in that case it does not matter which side you assemble in, but I will heat up the entire opposite case so you have more time to slide it on before it cools. Heating up the inner race only as you have discovered does not work well. Don't worry about the heat damaging the seals as they can handle a bit of heat, as long as you do not direct a gas flame or heat gun directly at the seals.
Thank you very much for this great video. Im about to rip into a crf 250. Some of the gears are slipping. You just boosted my confidence. I love your great quality videos. You are an inspiration to everyone who is ready to accept it.
Hi mate, you are thorough and you are doing good work. You should use heaps more oil during assembly and not that red rubbish you used! Use something mineral based thats no thinner than 15W. Just make sure it doesn't contain 'friction modifiers because of wet clutch. Get an oil can and squirt some into bearings and spin it in. Even the bearing housings before you tap bearings in, so no chance of damaging housing. Yes it's more messy. Wear nitrile surgical gloves. If it runs out onto gasket surface area use break-cleaner on a rag and wipe clean. You know what your doing, just use more oil. I know when you fill crank it gets in there, but we talking assembly here. Things bind and get air pockets and can repel oil for longer than you think. All threads, shafts, splines should be smeared with oil before you tap them in and before your gear/shafts cover them. Even thin smear of oil on the inside of housing before tapping them in stop binding and chewing of case and even knock down tension on case. The real tip I give you are sealed bearings that dont rotate much compared to wheel bearings. E.g headset, swingarm etc. Get a scribe and carefully pick out seal from the outside circumference only. Do both sides and use compressed air and blow that shit quality factory vaseline grade rubbish out. Buy some molibdimen disulphate grease and virtually fill it 80% full. You can do same to wheel bearings but only 50% max. Cheers from Baydo .
i watched this video before tearing my kawasaki's down end for changing main bearings and seals. i was kinda afraid for that job... But that was the easyest job that i have done. it took me 4 hours to rebuild the whole engine.
When rebuilding transmissions it is very important to know that the thrust washers have a barely noticeable chamfered edge on just one side. Same with the spline washers and circlips that go on the shafts. The chamfered edge always faces towards the thrust load side of the gear or bushing. If installed incorreclty it will still seem to shift smooth and mesh correctly, but it could eventually cause premature failure or overheating of the components and anything they come in contact with. Nice build! I really like that engine stand!
This is some outstanding work Cameron! Can't wait for new videos. Thanks for video taping all of it and explaining step by step. Now I perfectly understand how the transmission works! Keep the good work coming!
Thank you for the video, I just bought a 2004 crf250r and i found out yesterday it needs to have a new crank. I’ll definitely be using your videos for my rebuild once I can afford parts
Lol. I had a lot of trouble telling which washer went where when I did a similar rebuild on a CM250c. None of the manuals were clear on which washers went where, and if you swap any of them you will end up with problems. Everything is done to spec on those engines, so when you take them apart use calipers to measure washer thickness and record where it came from. That way if you mix them up or lose them you can easily get it sorted out. Nice rebuild setup you have there. Very clean.
Rebuilding an XR 200 a few years ago I followed the book and was determined to get a click-click out of the engine.....new crank/piston/etc and on break-in I still had the clicking.......ran the gap on the rockers several times and still had the click. The engine had never been apart before and buttoned up nice. To make a long story short...it had come from the factory lacking a thrust washer on the end of the rocker shaft. For 73 cents I got a new one from Honda and the click went away. Crazy things happen!
I know what your going through first hand. My 2002 Xr650r was actually missing a few thrust washers and the dogs were pretty worn causing the bike to “automatically” shift from 2nd to 3rd gear under heavy throttle. Dangerous to say the least. It’s amazing how a few $3.00 washers can hold up a build. Or O-rings for that matter. Good luck bud
Nice and clean build. It´s important to check everything when assemble and not be in a hurry. One washer missing can end in a ruined engine or several crushed gears. Put some grease to the inner race of the seals, or else they can burn up.
Most if not all, big four crankshafts are machined press fit into the mag side and slide fit into clutch side. You should always fit the crank into left (mag side) first, makes it way easyer.
Use dry ice throw all the bearing over night.I use a toaster oven to heat up to 300 degrees .The shift drum bearing is pretty wimpy so it must drop by itself to bottom of case.Take your time and don't rush have a plan and prep.Good vid.
Im always enjoy studying about engine parts and to see someone whom very passionate of having his work done like you is so inspiring. Keep the good work bro! And get well soon! From Malaysia with love 👍
The feeling of doing a full engine rebuild and installing the engine back on the bike just to realize that something is wrong with the transmission is pretty lovely. Happened to me when I was working on my ktm.
Brooo! This probably the best RU-vid channel, i really love what you do, I've been through all of your videos and they are amazing, alot of things to learn from you.. I appreciate what you do buddy, n i can't wait until the CR engine is complete.. All the support and best of luck 👍👍💪
Goes to show you cannot skimp on installing a simple flat washer if it was shown on the manufacturers' exploded view of the gearbox. Thanks for showing us how the gearbox will bind when the washer is not installed too! You probably saved me from another headache or 'swearing fest' after I had put the box back together!
Why bother when the bearings had been in the freezer over night, plus they would not thermally expand fast enough to warrant the use of a freeze spray.
To put the crankcases together, it is easy to leave out the main bearing seal to get good heat quickly into the inner bearing race, then the crank slips through with zero resistance. The seal is easy to install after, especially with that tool you have.
You were right about the main bearing seals needing to be slightly deeper than what would be level with the crank case. The manual specifies a certain depth
Thanks Cam' your video is worth so much to me! I would of wasted endless hours through trial and error to get the parts of my gearbox fitting together. And you give great little tips along the way - to save on maintenance, mistakes or do a quality job. 'A thousand thank you's' Keep the vid's coming!
Draw the general shape of the crankcase on a piece of cardboard, and poke holes where the bolts go. As you disassemble, push the bolts in the holes until you assemble. That way you don’t have to guess where they go. Can do this with side covers as well. I keep the cardboard mockups in my shop for reuse.
Great detailed video!! Thanks so much. Ive got to get my RMX250 back together...its in pieces. A buddy is helping me do the work because I have never split cases before. I had a bearing go out, and she starting smoking REAL bad...hopefully sometime this summer we can get to work on my own rebuild.
Only thing I may add is, as you were pulling the cases together, I would tap on the rear of the cases with a soft small hammer, just to make sure the cases are coming down square and flat, just a soft slight tap
That's crazy how something that small like a little washer can hold the deal up and make something go wrong but it's good to know those things like you said double checking your work awesome can't wait to see the next video
Hey man great video awesome editing and so on. But I do wanna say I would use OEM bearings for any cranks never ever go with Hot Rods Bearings just from personal experience here! Also I would much rather tap the bearing in the res of the way or you chance cracking or fracturing the aluminum with a press. Over all great video!
Always keep the old bearings. You can put the old outer race on the new one to press in the bearing in. Plus I recommend to put some oil on the thread off the pulling tool - can make a difference.
What I want to know is who the hell is leaving a thumbs down if you don't like it don't watch it there's no need to give these videos of thumbs down give nothing or a thumbs up but there's no need to give a thumbs down. It just doesn't make sense Cameron keep doing your thing buddy we all support you
Nah, it's Delboy in London!! Watch his vid where he attempts to explain how a bike gearbox works! The guy is a fucking jackass. You will cry laughing. He doesn't understand a bloody thing. My guess is he's never even stripped a bike gearbox. If he had, he wouldn't have claimed the greas crash into each other. That's right, he doesn't know about CV!!
There is a reason for a thumbs down, it sucks for the video maker yes but when youtube is constantly suggesting a video style that you have no interest in it will only stop once you leave several thumbs down on similar videos.
Great work Cameron.. Just noticed the gasket covering some other holes rather than the case bolt ones. Check with the manual that it is not covering any oil passages or something. Keep up the nice videos going...
you can use a small bit of grease or assy lube for the washer(s) on the bottom side of the gear cluster to prevent the washer from sliding down the shaft when fitting the cluster into the case,good vid.
Hi from Australia. Goddamit dude, your videos are awesome! The detail and description of what you are doing is beyond brilliant. You make transmissions look both simple and incredible at the same time.
My first bottom end rebuild I almost had the crank pulled in all the way, looked on the table and a couple gears were sitting there! Don't assemble engines at 3am with little sleep. Had to clean the sealer off the gasket and start over
Dude, I've watched a few of your videos now and they are really well done but this bottom end rebuild really does simplify things! Thanks for the great vids man.
I believe you might be actually warming up the bearings slightly by spraying them IMHO. I use dry ice or liquid nitrogen as an A&P Mechanic on aircraft but I know that's not readily available or cheap for most people. Don't even stop for a few seconds like you did in the video before installing the new bearings, they have to be installed immediately after coming out of the freezer, same with the covers coming out of the oven. Work as quickly as you can & don't use pliers that are at room temp. Put the crank tool, pliers & any size matching sockets or bearing installation bushings in the freezer with the bearings. Your pliers are transferring/conducting heat into the bearings if they're not as cold as the bearing you're installing. Most bearings should drop right in place but if they don't drop right in use a socket or bearing bushing installer tool frozen at the same temp as the bearing to push it in place as quickly & straight down as possible. Hyd press should not be needed if you clean out the bearing cavity real good. Use a 3M Scotch-Brite 37448 Ultra Fine Pad by hand to remove any built up gunk & try not to remove any metal using light pressure only when cleaning out the bearing cavities. Keep up the great work. I hope & pray you get well soon. I would love to see you rebuild & restore a Honda CR500 also in your future videos (I have a 91 & a 94). I'm sure you'll get a lot of views!
great vid, crazy how the smallest oversight can be so consequential, first time I actually understood whats going on in my dirt bikes transmission, thank you!!
I had to split my cases three times before I finally got my transmission correctly assembled, but after you do it right once, it's really easy, I would never let a shop charge 3 grand for something like this
It is really easy to rebuild a bike transmission, did this on my old moped. you have to pay close attention to the spacers and stuff like that because if you get it wrong you might end up with a transmission that won't shift.
As a young mechanic I ate an entire engine/trans R&R because I think I put a thrust washer on the wrong side or something ....was a hundred years ago so ...anyway I LEARNED to double triple quadruple check! Because that is OUCH! I mean I put the entire bike back to together and test rode it before i found out! Waaaa ....had to take every fricken thing back apart and split the cases and reassemble ...at least it was all nice and clean! After less than 2 years of professional wrenching? Being SCREWED over by shop labor charges with them taking half and the ULTRA stingy "flat rate" schedule Kawasaki had at the time? I knew there HAD TO BE a better way to make a living ...turns out there are LOTS of better ways to make a living! Take for example Kawasaki flat rate to Remove and tear down a Z1 (900cc inline 4 cylinder) ...EIGHT HOURS! I shit you not ..EIGHT HOURS to pull that big ol engine, remove the entire top end, split the cases and then reassemble it all running again ....EIGHT HOURS...yeah maybe in a FACTORY with all sterile brand new parts and air tools galore hanging with the right sockets in each one ...and after someone learned it for a while...but a filthy motor? You have to super clean first! Lock tighted together? with the inevitable stripped threads and broken screws just trying to get the thing apart?...I HATED warranty work! You had to cheat to sort of break even and create some fictitious non existent extra problems you had to fix on warranty ...which I mean is wrong but? you know? And the shops? They loved to be kind to customers at the mechanic's expense ...how would YOU like to repair several flats and/or install new tires? For FIVE BUCKS wheel ON BIKE? (drop everything rush jobs btw) ..The ONLY breathing room was the non warranty diagnostic and repair ....well and servicing still really new bikes made good money on services and non warranty repairs ...but the tire changes and warranty repairs were just KILLERS! Also being interrupted all the time to come up and help the parts counter idiot work with the customer idiot trying to buy parts for his bike...they had no idea what to call something and forgot what it looked like etc ..."Doug could you come out here and help us" ...Sure I get paid ZERO dollars an hour for ANYTHING but work orders ....but SURE let me just drop everything and help out ...what I live for.....NOT....
Another amazing video! It’s finally coming together! Excellent tip on the grease and the gasket. A dab of oil works well also. I use this method for all gaskets in the motor. I hate scraping baked on gaskets.
When u get the engine together and put oil in it, move the kickstarter up and down several times to disperse the oil throughout the engine before starting it, the manual for my bike tells you to do that every time you change the oil and thought it wouldnt be a bad idea
StilwellMotovlogger not recommend for every bike but good comment everytime you change the trans oil In a bike it flows over the gears when you are putting the fluid into it so I wouldn't say that every bike needs this procedure but it's just my opinion ..........have a great 1 solider
That is a great video! I love how you always show and explain each step very clearly.My son is going to be rebuilding his 2004 yz250 bottom end this summer.👍
'Lesson', I take from this. - Always check your work progressively. You don't want the nightmare of trying to figure out what you did wrong after you put the gearbox halves - back into the frame!