A Re-Review of 'Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order' 

Vader showing up at the end was like “hey you know how it took hours it took to feel powerful up to this point? You feel pretty powerful as a Jedi huh? Yeah that’s not gonna help here. Just run”

I actually loved the Vader ending, that feeling of helplessness in the face of his overwhelming power. No way to even land a strike on him much less beat him. It reminds you why the Jedi are in hiding.

Can’t wait for Survivor. Tried out fallen order in 2021 and was surprised by how amazing the story and gameplay was

With them finally giving us fast travel I thankfully won’t be getting lost anymore like I was on Zeffo trying to get back to the Mantis

Interesting that you didn't think the ending of the game was coming up. I thought it was telegraphed pretty well with the gang obtaining the macguffin, and the boss fight that actually leads to you beating Trilla. Was it rushed? Probably, but it was definitely clear, at least to me

I loved the puzzle sections on Zeffo. That planet just seemed like there was no end to the things you could find.

I've never understood the hate for the running animation

How did Luke not get any seeds?! You trip over at least half of them just following the story... Love the game and am really excited for Survivor.

I love the game. I'm currently on my 3rd playthrough and I've never even thought about his running animation. And until now I had a hard time with the puzzles.

Jedi Fallen Order is the perfect game for ADHD people. First you're a Jedi explorer, then a Jedi tarnished, then a Jedi puzzle solver, you keep shifting games within the same world without losing interest in it for other stuff. Nice.

Another quality upload from you to make my day! Can wait to sit, relax and enjoy this. Keep up the awesome work Luke

Thanks Luke. I'm guilty of finishing the game and never going back and as I was watching this video I reinstalled it to go back and collect all the things I missed when I first played it 4 years (4 years!?) ago.

The inconsistency of the planets always stood out to me with this. Zeffo feels so open and varied, with tons of alternate paths, whereas Kashyyyk and Dathomir feel like incredibly linear action story game levels

Your points are so relatable to what i've been thinking about this game for afew days. Thanks for the review

I feel like the first fight against the second sister is also just a part of the tutorial. It shows you how one on one combat against more powerful complex enemies works. I`m extremely excited for Jedi Survivor because it looks like they will push combat even further, as well as made traversal better too with fast travel options. I loved the first game enough that I wanted to get all achievements but some of those backtracking area were a real slog. I know it`s not a great idea to get overly hyped for a game but to me this is right up there with what my anticipation levels were like for Elden Ring, Doom Eternal, and Arkham knight. Honestly my main concern is just hoping we don`t have a broken PC port like there have been with so many launches lately like The Last of Us, Midnight Suns, and Calisto Protocol.

Didnt play it when it first came out but i think i played it in like 2021 or 2022 because it was on sale and I'm glad I did, Loved playing it also loved 100% percenting everything was really fun can't wait to see how much bigger the sequel is and see all the new stances and Combat/the world they have in store for us in the sequel

Talk about coincidences - I JUST finished playing fallen order, refreshed RU-vid and here is this video. :D Ready for the sequel!

Fallen Order is my favourite game ever. Saber combat is amazing, Story is amazing. Can't wait for the Sequel, looking like it's going to be even better!

Over the years I've completed the story a few times on different diffulties and recently I got the platinum trophy for Jedi Fallen Order in preparation for Jedi Survivor. Love this game, serious replay value and it aged very well. Very excited for the sequel

Jedi Fallen order will always hold a special place in my heart for the some reason that because it was successful EA was like “oh single player games can actually sell well? Hey BioWare you guys can make the next dragon age a single player game if you want” and then they did that.

My biggest problem was that there where so few one on one lightsaber boss fights. Also those bossea felt somehow weird. Cant explain better.

Great video, I Finished it 1st time last week. Really liked it. My biggest issues: Lack of jedi powers in traversal(Cal feels more like Nathan Drake than Luke Skywalker in his movement capabilities. Combat feels a little clunky and uneven at times(but contextually it makes sense as cal is a padawan for most of the game) Not enough customisation for Cal, hair, clothes, general appearance(i love that stuff)

I look forward to your Re-re-review in a few years time. :P

All those issues you described are the reason I paused my replay prior to release in order to watch this. Years later, I've no patience and am running thru on Normal. I got most items originally, and now I'll never get those most precious final bits.

I like your room. Looks cozy. I just downloaded this to my PS5 from PSN in part because of your review and others. Thanks.

FINALLY someone talked about that horrendous running animation. All I see is people praising all the animations while I'm here like: "are you guys seeing the same thing as I am for real?"

I'm replaying for the 3rd time in preparation for the sequel, one of the best games I ever played, combat is amazing, graphics, story, all the package. Just have some stuttering here and there because of clearly streaming data problems, I hope the sequel doesn't have performance issues, although its made on Unreal engine, so I'm not getting my hopes up for that. Regarding this video, I agree with 50% of what Luke says, most of the things he doesn't like I actually like or just don't see the way he does like it being 3 games in one, for me I feel the devs did a good job on making it an organic experience, but yeah the running animation is probably something everybody agrees. Also, Luke didn't mention the worst offender of the game, the holographic map, it's easily for me the worst part of the game, I hope the map is better in the sequel because it's so confusing and hard to get orientation from it. Also, the ending is good in my opinion, I don't know why Luke felt it was abrupt, it ended in a cliffhanger that clearly pointed to a sequel. Edit: I think the 9th sister is still alive.

Oh man, I cant wait to boot up Survivor on GM dif for the first time and just suffer whilst getting better and mastering the dual wield stance ❤

Fallen Order was strangely sensational, Survivor looks like a GOTY based on the improvements alone

This made me re download and give it another shot tonight. Glad I did. Well done video as usal...Thanks again man. ✌️

What you said about Wild Hunt is so true. I went into Witcher 3 fresh off Bloodbornes' platinum; I was a beast. I decided Witcher would be my "break from difficult" and just let myself get lost in the story & world, so I played on...something less than Death March, idk. I restarted after I trashed the cow monster on level 4, knowing it should be relatively difficult. You really can just brute force/skill the game on anything but the hardest setting.

Back then I played on a broken ps4 that would soft lock me in the intro when you were sliding before jumping onto the ship with cere just simply the mantis and cere didnt load in so I’d just drop to my death every time 😭

You actually forgot about the third encounter with the Second Sister where you fight over the Holocron in Zeffo, so in total you fight her 4 times

How about the stutterting issue and fps drops ? Did you experience it ? I am trying to play it on Pc but its an absolute mess!

I heard that puzzles are going to be entirely optional in survivor instead of being forced to get through them to progress the story it'll just be like you see it as you're playing and may or may not stop to complete it and earn an extra reward like a cosmetic or or something which sounds great

Hey been watching since the Lukie Poo days, respect for all the hard work. Though gotta say you look like you could use some sleep.

Wow, shocked to hear you had a buggy experience. I also played on Xbox One and I don't think I have ever experienced a single bug playing the game 4+ times completely through.

I played it around the launch, and my experience was pretty buggy. I think I share the common sentiment when it comes to the world, puzzles, maps, and traversal. It feels like a soup of things you've already seen before from other games you've probably played before. Uncharted, Tomb Raider, Sonic, etc. It doesn't do anything you haven't seen or does it to a new level. It's a very 6-8 out of 10 game, if you know what I mean. I don't think it would be as impressive if it wasn't Star Wars. However, despite this, I did have a good time with it. I'll get Saviour down the line.

for the running animation, I can only assume it's Respawn's inexperience with player characters in 3D, they're an FPS team and always have been so they've not really animated their primary controlled character's legs before, and before anyone says it, there is a difference for a player character, they can switch animation at any time, because you make them, so the animation framework needs to be adaptive, it seems they struggled to make Cal's animations loose enough to adapt to player control shifts, and probably didn't have the time to tighten it up a bit.

I much prefer these kinds of reviews from Luke that focus on gameplay and systems to when he just talks about what happens in the story and why it does or doesn’t make sense.

When I first played fallen order Zeffi was an absolute nightmare trying to find my way through it, constantly dying and getting lost. My least favorite of the planets for sure

FYI, that’s not the only time you fight the grafted scion from the beginning of the game in Elden ring.

Perfect timing of this video. I am currently playing Jedi Fallen Order for the first time.

Weirdly enough, the climbing claws were my favorite upgrade 😂

The first hour of Fallen Order reminds me of that preview of Star Wars 1313 that was canceled cause Disney bought the license.

you should try out titanfall 2 campaign. It's one of the best campaigns with extremely good level design. Respawn made it I would highly recommend it.

A good way to think about Fallen Order is that it is essentially a big-budget "proof of concept." WIth that in mind a lot of the flaws make sense and it sets up the sequel to be something potentially really special.

I finished a play-through earlier in the week. The parry in the game does seem inconsistent. I played on Jedi Master and often missed every parry, or the button seemed not to register. I was playing on an Xbox controller, then an emulated PlayStation dual-sense controller. The problem never went away.

i tried to replay before as well, but man my issues with the game made me just stop on the first planet. The maps actively made me want to stop playing. Still hyped for the new game because Im sure they've fixed a lot of my issues. but going back was way tougher than I thought.

Don't know if you've done one yet, and I know its not part of your type of content but you should do a home office tour. Looking to start mine in a new home and looking for inpiration

I’m really happy that respawn are listening to the critiques of fallen order and fixing those in Survivor

Finished fallen order last week and I’m pumped full of suspicious fluids for the new one

People forget that Respawn Entertainment is basically the old Infinity Ward team that created Call of Duty and made Cod4 and MW2.

My biggest issue with this game was returning to the mantis objective when you should be able to fast travel back unless for plot reasons like the first zeffo trip, the map layout being awful with the 3D overlay and the trilla boss is kinda unfair in a way other bosses aren't.

feel like enemy types in survivor will be easier since u alr have the upgrades u needed in first game. the bosses n mini bosses just be challenging ones

it clearly took them a lot of time to get it working and that showed up big time in the game but it did not spoil the whole expreance, but now they have all that sorted they are going to knock it out of the park. unless it will only run at 30fps.

My nb 1 thing I didnt like about htis game was the amount of backtracking. It gets boring when it's very much the same thing but now has expanded by like 1/10th. It's just a way to extend the lenght of the game artificially as you have ot go through the map to get there again. I much rather have completetly new areas where you feel a need to explore again, not just "rush to this new part and see whats in it"

playing this game after having played jedi survivor i was really suprised by how much easyer it was playing on grand master i had 4 stims by the final bossfight and did it without any problem

I am so happy you brought up the run animation bc I thought I was the only one who cared 😂

I have completed This game three times, I love it. I really don’t have any of the gameplay variety complaints you do outside of maybe one puzzle. I first played it on Xbox one when it hit game pass. The hidden loading screens made me think my game was frozen and I reset the console lol. I liked that the incentive to backtrack was minimal and that this wasn’t an open world game. That being said, I wish there was some sort of basic fast travel system. Also, several of your gripes are taken care of if you take a few minutes to understand the map and what the symbols all mean. It marks obstacles you can come back to for you etc. I later played the game again when I got my series s and then again when I got a series X. This game was definitely a better experience on either of the latter consoles and I enjoyed it more each time I played through it. It just nails the “feeling” of Star Wars so well for me. Without the attachment to Star Wars I am aware I would not likely regard it as highly, but that is the point I think.

I do not know why but I never realised or thought about order 66 being a genocide basically

I've seen multiple people comment this and I totally agree. The ending was one of the best parts of the game. I don't know how big a Star Wars fan Luke is, but I think that might play a little into my love for it. I genuinely can't remember being caught of guard with the ending coming out of no where, but maybe it was because of how cool I thought the vader escape was.

I never did any of the side quests, so at the end of the game I had 3 stims 😂

Claiming climbing a ledge is “obviously inspired by uncharted” seems like quite the stretch. Many games have climbing that is similar

"I'm not the only one who thinks the running animation looks stupid." First time I've ever heard such a nonsensical nitpick

i loved playing this game and I enjoyed exploring every nook and cranny. My only complaint was respawning enemies. This is a feature of just about every game but I hate it. I like to clear an area then explore at my leisure. Then if I forgot anything, I want to go back without having redo all the fights. As you mentioned, this is practically required in this game since you are level blocked on the first pass through. If I ever had a request to a game developer it would be to disable that feature or not include it at all.

Something about survivor made me feel like it was missing something fallen order had but maybe I just need to replay

I agree with you Luke regarding the puzzles. I got so far in Fallen Order, got annoyed with the puzzles at a certain point (after second fight with second sister I think) and switched to other games (gaming hours with my day job are few and far between lately)….I want to try again because survivor looks awesome but not sure.

I got to the end of the first level of this game (after the tutorial) & realized I had to find my way back to the beginning of the level. Turned it off & didn’t ever play again.

I agree that his running animation looks goofy, but at the same time, I got used to it eventually. That's just how some people run, and that was probably the case for the motion capture here.

15:30 I got the double bladed lightsaber early actually

I think this review is a bit strange because of course a villain gets introduced and they’re just bad. It’s the course of a game that you learn more about all the characters including the villains. Which you do. It’s also like the tonal shift throughout the game, it starts different then how it ends because you play Cal and he changes and grows throughout his journey. Going from a scared Jedi Padawan to a confidant and strong Jedi Knight. It’s a puzzle game at it’s core, all the planets have some puzzles… some more than others. Zeffo and Ilum having the most and Kashyyyk/Dathomir being more straight forward. I think they nailed it with the balance though. I wouldn’t want just constant puzzles all the time and I wouldn’t just want constant combat, it comes in waves and honestly it works so well. There was only one puzzle that was really tedious and that’s the one you showed, where you need to burn the chain. I think the rest are pretty straight forward and kinda fit the lore of it being a temple only fully able to explore with the use of the force. Either way though all these things are essentially being improved in the next game regardless. Combat, puzzles, exploration, pacing… all being improved upon. Edit Point: purple boyos are purge troopers and they’re meant to be the hardest thing besides bosses since they’re specially trained to take out Jedi. Hence the bizarre attack patterns that are hard to read/block. It is possible they’re just weird and I’m pretty sure it’s done on purpose.

We must not forget... Respawn Made Titan Fall 2!!!!!! one of the best first person movement shooters ever!

Uncharteds free climbing was really fun in combat arenas

I kinda like Cal’s goofy ahh type running, kinda adds to the charm for me lol

I remember enjoying this game back in 2019 and I played it again on Xbox one and enjoyed again

22:50 Cyberpunk's investigation sequences

legit had no idea that I could get more health stims I beat the game with two, maybe it showed me at some point but becuse I play games on and off I completely neglected to get any more.

if you didnt understand the history of the inquistors i would understand how you would find it boring but those of us that knew likely thought it was unreal

I loved this game because it felt like a dream come true as a Star Wars fan. I hear lots of people complain that they’re tired of games based on Jedi but I argue no other game has come this close to lightsaber mechanics that feel this good.

If they can tighten up the combat and make it feel more responsive than the first go-round, I'll be happy.

I have platinum on this game. Traversing the map wasn't as hard as other people make it, but the achievement where you had to complete the holomap was annoying.

I 100 percented this game 3 times back to back when it first came out (before they had new game+) and playing on grandmaster is definitely a lot more fun. I never really felt the tedium from the puzzles but I was also super hyped for the first real lightsaber game since Force unleashed and can definitely see how people could get annoyed or bored with it. I never really noticed the weird run and now I can’t unsee it so thanks for that lol. I never ran into any issues at all when I was playing on my original Xbox One. The performance actually got worse for me with the series x upgrade which kinda sucks.

ghost of tsushima did the same thing with the impossible boss fight at the beginning

"It's so disjointed....they don't know what they want to do with this game...it jumps between mechanics." Have you ever reviewed a game before? This is called good game design, where you don't allow your game to sink into an incredibly boring rut but include action, puzzles and souls-like elements to keep it fresh and challenging. Its astounding that such a seasoned gamer would miss this

Couple things come to mind here: 1) I don’t really see Trilla coming off as a mustache-twirling Star Wars villain at first as a bad thing if a large part of the plot was dedicated to exploring Cere’s trauma and mistakes after Order 66. Like, isn’t that the point? I feel like it would be dragging the intro out way too long to try to fully flesh out the villains in the opening sequence. Their purpose there was just to be the immediate threat, the call to action 2) Small spoiler, but you can get the double bladed lightsaber within the first few hours of the game. You can’t explore Bogano that deep the first time and you don’t have to go to Zeffo immediately, you can go to Dathomir instead. Now, does Dathomir kinda suck if you have very limited abilities and Force/Health? For sure, especially getting to that first meditation point. But it’s certainly doable if you know what you’re doing.

Finished the game on the One X a couple of years back, tried playing it again recently on the series X and couldn't set the controls to my liking, way too tanky even with adjustments, I hope the situation is better with the new one.

Only found this video now... and I agree so much with this I didn't complete this game till maybe 2021? after purchasing at launch... because like in this video I found the puzzles tedious and annoying especially when I know what to do but the game never does what I actually asked it to do, so like again the video did say at one point I put the controller down and played another game... then finally completed (Still hating the puzzle parts) the game 2 YEARS after the game came out.

I mean, just look at Survivor’s file size. It’s about 150gb for basically every platform, minus the Series S for some reason. The scope is going to be SO much bigger. It’s gonna be crazy. Can’t wait to play it

The one thing that make me enjoy jedi fallen order even more is the fact that respawn added the option in the game options which allow to delegate the horrific button mashing QTEs to the computer to handle it.Thank God for that.I hate button mashing QTEs like those in Naruto series games,God of War the original trilogy etc.Not to mention you kill the controller button in the most brutal way and killing the controller as a whole when you throw it to the ground in frustration when you fail them repeatedly. More games need to implement these.Also I interact with every system and explore everything in the game regardless of whether I am playing on normal or hard difficulty.This was programmed in me when I played the Witcher 1 which was my first RPG game.This game is no exception to that rule.

I never noticed the running animation beif weird. Sure, it is weird, but it didnt bother me.

I haven’t done enough research, but if they did the mocap on the face actor himself, I think he just runs like that ( judging from Shameless) LOL

Imagine not going to Dathomir first, get the double blade right away.

17:47 or that’s probably how Cameron Monaghan runs…because that IS him mocapping his character, even in combat. Sooo…can’t fix how somebody prefers to do things

I started playing this game again recently cause I have the second one on Pre Order. Fallen Order is still amazing. lol

i first played this game without realizing it was a metroidvania. Horrible experience until i saw the tag and and figured it all out.

Jedi Fallen Order has been in my Steam library for over a year and I haven't played it once, Jedi Academy is the last light saber game I've played and I had a good time. I'm going to play Fallen Order now as who knows when I'll get another chance.

9:58 so you're telling me EA manufactured a feeling of "pride and accomplishment" 👀

The purge troopers are easy. Side step their red attacks and punish. Parrys for baton trooper are three in a row then an overhead slash, followed by an unnlockable with a backstep slash. It's the same for the others, just slightly different. However, that's from my experience. I play only on grandmaster, so I got a lot of that stuff down

Was so happy to see the faces were fixed. Also though his running animation is still awkward, at least he no longer looks like he's running with a full diaper.