The Tory's need to get a grip on wanton corruption and find candidates who understand what 'honesty, honour and service' actually means. Both Labour and Conservatists need to move left again, the lurch to the right has shown us what rubbish can crawl out of the swamp. Harumphhhh !😋
The Tories don’t just need to return to the centre, they need to restore trust. They’ve done so many things whilst pretending to do otherwise that a large trunk of moderate voters will probably not vote for them again for a long time. To be sure Labour need to do as they promise, too, but their chance begins now. The Tories have just thrown numerous chances away.
I'm in the exactly same situation. I agree with your sentimate. The question for the abandoned is? Can we trust the conservatives now. With Badenock as any part of them, NO. Same for the other hard right proponents.
Id be interested in knowing why Prof Tim feels there are no parties that fit his ethos. Lib Dems? The Liberal Party? There must be a party (no matter how small) that covers broadly what he believes. Or am I being naive?
I hope the Tories never get back into government again (at least if they continue to be a neoliberal party) and become an minor party at best, the centre ground is going to shift to the left, because most of the younger generations are left leaning and don't like the Tories, because their standard of living has been wrecked by the Tory party over the last 14 years, I thought it would take at least 15 years to get to that point that under their current ideology they would become unelectable, but because the last Tory government was such a disaster and lost so many seats, they have unintentionally accelerated the process, I look forward to a future where the two biggest parties will likely be the new centre right party which is Labour and the centre left party will be a coalition of Greens/a new left wing party established by former Labour MP's and the rump of Tory MP's will be sitting next to DUP MP's on the backbenches, what a beautiful sight that will be indeed.
Sounds fine in theory however, the far right abhorrent as they are have a following, I don’t think it’s possible to have a politically acceptable party which incorporates the far right and carry sufficient of the centre vote. I don’t think the Tories can govern whilst Reform exists.
After the disaster of repealing the corn laws out of free market dogma, it took 50 years to reinvent themselves as a utilitarian party who did things that worked. And so they remained until Thatcher. We have had 45 years of the Tories doing things that don’t work out of dogma. .
The problem with PR is what is a great risk a right wing Tory party in power with 40% of the vote or reform being part of the government with 20%. There are more important thins than fairness when it comes to the electoral system
With a proper system of PR you give the largest party a short time to create a coalition representing over 50%. If they can’t, the king should ask the second largest party to try. The Tories would fail , And labour succeed.
@@johnrussell3961 Good point the Tories + parties to the right of them have never got near 50%. (once a century ago) They would only ever be able to form a coalition with those to the left of them. While for Labour they could go left or right for a coalition. Generally I don't think PR would make anyone move from the left straight to right or vice versa, so left /right totals would stay the same but it would move the government generally to the left. However one warning people might get pissed of with weak government and go for a 30's style strongman probably on the right but not something I would want regardless of politics
@@nolslifegrenyes but i like to hear about any views on what ricky jones has said,nothing wrong in dropping hint at some content tim may not even bother so dont worry about it
I agree that our centrists are becoming more left, but in order to maintain the ruling coalition. Plus, the right has become more right. I don’t know if/when they’ll right will ever come back. Even in provinces where people are tired of the right, oddly, they don’t go centrist, they go far left(!). Liz Truss = lettuce🥬. I was asked to do strategic voting once, decades ago. Neither candidate was elected. Sigh. I hope it’s more organized now, as you’re stating. Cheers.
