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A Review Of The Panasonic GH5 Micro Four Thirds Camera 

David Thorpe
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This is a review of the Panasonic's flagship GH5 as a stills camera. The GH5 is often seen as primarily a video camera. It isn't. Regarded purely as a stills camera it stands with the very best that the Micro Four Thirds system has to offer. What is unique is that you can say that about its video too. Hybrid usually entails compromise. Not so the GH5's case.
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@supernova1976
@supernova1976 7 лет назад
When I see a review by David Thorpe , I drop everything and watch it. well-done as always . thanks
@EnzoMaisanoTELLTHESTORY
@EnzoMaisanoTELLTHESTORY 7 лет назад
Me too
@michealardron5195
@michealardron5195 7 лет назад
me too !
@NeverWolf
@NeverWolf 7 лет назад
Same.
@2nd3rd1st
@2nd3rd1st 7 лет назад
Pants too?
@supernova1976
@supernova1976 7 лет назад
2nd3rd1st yes mate pants too
@theory8sf
@theory8sf 7 лет назад
Finally a proper gh5 review with the intent of using it for stills!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Yes, I thought a stills perspective would be useful.
@GiulioSciorio
@GiulioSciorio 7 лет назад
I've been making my living with GH cameras since the GH3 and I'm proudly sponsored by Panasonic. I can say this is THE review that is badly needed. Thanks for talking about the still capabilities of the GH5 David.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
That's nice of you to say so, Giulio. I've had all the GHs from the GH2, the camera that got me fully into Micro Four Thirds. They've always been just as good stills cameras and a match for any other make but the video, going so far beyond what anyone could reasonably expect has always grabbed the headlines.
@TheNefastor
@TheNefastor 5 лет назад
I agree. I've seen literally hundreds of videos about 4K video recording, LUT's and shoulder rigs for the GH5 but I'm just a guy who needs a camera to take pictures at the zoo yet also wants to film his friends' wedding and school plays with the same camera.
@_Sisyphus
@_Sisyphus 7 лет назад
THE MOST TRUSTED AND WELL VERSED M4/3rd CAMERA REVIEWER ON RU-vid - PERIOD!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
What can I say? Except - thanks!
@jakelindsay6251
@jakelindsay6251 7 лет назад
What a wonderful day and age we live in! We just keep getting showered with incredibly capable systems that do both still and video. Olympus, Fuji, Panasonic, and Sony. It's great to have so many options! Well done, David.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks Jake! I always say to anyone who asks about today's cameras that while at a given price point there may be a best one for you personally, no choice you make will be a bad one.
@AA_Dandelion_Days
@AA_Dandelion_Days 7 лет назад
Whilst sadly, the GH5 is way out of my price league, it certainly doesn't stop me from being delighted at the arrival of a new review of your's David. At the risk of repeating thoughts from others, your usual top class, unassuming, and on point review (with a usual dash of humour) is a very welcome addition to my day!!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
I'd love to reply to everyone but unfortunately but unfortunately my computer is in the other room and my head won't go through the door any more :-)
@burgulize
@burgulize 2 года назад
Just bought a GH5 on ebay with a cage and 3 batteries for 700$, went straight to youtube to hear David's voice talking about my new purchase :) Rest in peace dear friend
@RobTrek
@RobTrek 7 лет назад
Great job! Love your channel. Your experience really comes through with your down to earth look with witty commentary. Thanks for all your work.
@einargreensky
@einargreensky 7 лет назад
Your reviews are as always a pleasure . Very grounded. Thanks
@nathanieldrew
@nathanieldrew 6 лет назад
Phenomenal review. Thank you
@davidthorpe7732
@davidthorpe7732 6 лет назад
Thanks, Nathaniel!
@SlothHunter2
@SlothHunter2 7 лет назад
After a lot of thinking and indecisiveness I finally bought the GH5 with the 12-35mm. 10 days into it and I am learning a lot of what this thing can do. Read the manual about 3 times and followed along using the functions/features just seeing what everything does and how to do it, about 7 pages of notes, hours and hours taking test photos/videos...and searching the menus for that elusive function or why another menu function is greyed out. Recently as a passenger in my friends truck driving down this really bumpy road, I took a 2 minute video of her and I talking... I was blown away at how steady (and clear) the video turned out. That made me smile, taking some slo-mo videos and watching them had me laughing. The Ext Tele Conv feature is very nice too as are the Cust C and Fn buttons. I'm glad I waited, thought it through and bought this combo. Really happy with it and looking forward to having fun and creating great photos and telling video stories.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Brilliant, isn' it? If you haven't yet, try the I.S.Lock(Video) on the Stabilizer menu. Best with lenses 45mm or less - I call it a virtual tripod. It was added in the V2 firmware.
@Alexrocks1253
@Alexrocks1253 5 лет назад
We need more reviews of the GH series of cameras on RU-vid. More videos like these. Great review, Mr. Thorpe.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 5 лет назад
Thanks!
@sonvfave
@sonvfave 7 лет назад
" system of choice for beer drinkers" hahaha Love your work
@burgulize
@burgulize 7 лет назад
I had a choice, to see David's review or to be late for a meeting with friends.. My friends waited patiently.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
:-)
@philk9227
@philk9227 7 лет назад
Another thorough and highly enjoyable review. It's so refreshing to have an experienced photographer cut to the chase and highlight the things that matter to someone taking photos. So many reviews are nothing more than specification bingo. Thanks David!
@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN
@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN 7 лет назад
Excellent review. I've been using the GH5 for video but now have a new appreciation for its ability to take stills. Can't wait to watch a review of the 8-18mm Pana Leica lens due out next week. How does it stack up to the other ultra wide m43 lenses? At nearly half the weight of the Olympus 7-14 2.8 Pro, I'm sure 1mm is a small trade off for the weight and extra length on the other side. Thank you always for the thorough and well done m43 reviews from a stills perspective.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks - I'll be interested to see the new wide zoom, though the 7-14 has served me well for a long time and it would take a lot to make me change it.
@notyou1760
@notyou1760 7 лет назад
I was shocked to see your comment! I also love your channel, and watch it and Abroad in Japan quite a lot.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks! I have just got hold of an 8-18 - not had much of a chance to use it seriously yet but it oozes quality and looks to be a real classic.
@mcfl1
@mcfl1 7 лет назад
A review for grown-ups. Well done, David.
@williammobbs3502
@williammobbs3502 6 лет назад
Yet again a well balanced review. I've moved away from Canon IDX/5D cameras to MFT's and I have not regretted the move to the GH4/GH5 system. Your review captures the salient points in an unbiased and practical manner. Having the quality of the GH5 in a lightweight package at a third of the price and weight of Canon and Nikon systems has given me so much more flexibility. The Panasonic/Leica lenses are very impressive and I do not regret my decision to move from full frame to MFT's. Thank you David for your excellent review.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 6 лет назад
Thank you, William, it's nice to know it is appreciated. I gave up my DSLR in favour of Micro Four Thirds several years ago and I've found no reason to regret it since.
@hobbyrx2267
@hobbyrx2267 7 лет назад
Actually u r the micro four thirds authority for specialists dedicated to only comparing models that use that mount/sensor. Cheers.
@Verchiele
@Verchiele 7 лет назад
Probably the most direct, to the point, entertaining & informative camera review! Great Job David!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks Albert. The videos take a while to make but knowing they are appreciated is very pleasing.
@nomadcurator
@nomadcurator 7 лет назад
I always wait for your reviews. This review as always is top notch. I wanted someone to do a still review on the GH 5. Great work as always.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks Juan. I like to do some video but stills will always be 99% of my interest.
@charlietraquair6866
@charlietraquair6866 7 лет назад
outstanding review...one of the best.....it's one of a very small number of reviews i didn't want to end. thank you do much David
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks for that, Charlie!
@studioviper3016
@studioviper3016 7 лет назад
the only review that matters
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks to everyone for the appreciation! :-)
@lindamcmullin785
@lindamcmullin785 7 лет назад
Yup!
@Infothing
@Infothing 7 лет назад
Once again a great review Dave No ego, no bias, no technobabble. Just a straight forward and honest reflection Testing the IBIS using natural tools like Beavertown, Magic Rock, and Cloudwater is a method that I subscribe to. Looking forward to your next video
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks, Dave. I haven't tried any of those beers but I'm going to!
@kenny75photography2
@kenny75photography2 7 лет назад
Great review as always, David. Its also refreshing to see a review on a camera like the GH5 from a stills perspective and not just video as it appears to be just as well equipped in that area as the Olympus E-M1 Mk II is.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Yes, it's remarkable how similar in performance the two cameras are. I suppose that's what happens when computers and hi tech are a big part of the process. I'm glad they are different in size and feel. It'd be awful if they became too similar.
@kenny75photography2
@kenny75photography2 7 лет назад
Yes, I think the GH5 might be a bit too big though for my liking and general use as the E-M1 Mark II would be better in that regard for my needs. Still if someone passed one onto me I wouldn't turn it down. :)
@glennasakawa9880
@glennasakawa9880 7 лет назад
Your reviews are always balanced, informative and intelligent. You nailed it again on the GH5. I really appreciated the emphasis on still photography since most of the RU-vid reviews of the GH5 have been for its amazing video capabilities. Thank you for your insights.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thank you, Glenn. In all of the GHs since the 3, the video performance has tended to overshadow the stills. Ideas get fixed in people's minds so the GHs become video cameras that happen to do stills. It is not and never was true. I enjoy doing some video but for me the GHs are stills cameras that do video!
@gcprost
@gcprost 5 лет назад
This is a very good review. I now have two GH5s. After owning GH3 and GH4s I was surprised with how impressed I was. This is a very flexible and capable camera. I expect this to be a very good long term investment.
@davidthorpe7732
@davidthorpe7732 5 лет назад
I think you are right, Gerald. It is hard to see how the GH5 could be improved on as an all round capable stills and video camera. The only real option for improvement would be to go to a bigger sensor, though I'd question whether that would be an all round improvement. What you'd gain in IQ - and the GH5 has excellent IQ, anyway - you'd lose in portability, and flexibility. Which pretty well sums up why I came to Micro Four Thirds in the first place and you too, I would imagine.
@jpjacobsenbr
@jpjacobsenbr 6 лет назад
Once more, great stuff and accurate opinion. I am professional filmmaker/photographer. I have owned and shot with Nikon D750, Leica M, Olympus EM-1 MKII and the GH5. I agree with absolutely everything you said, the GH5 menus and usability are the best I've used. Cheers from Brazil and keep doing these. You and your British clarity + accent rock. Cheers from Brazil 🇧🇷
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 6 лет назад
Cheers from London and thanks! Very pleasing with Panasonic that having got it so right with the GH3, they carried on through to the GH5 without spoiling it. Long may it continue.
@morrieglick4137
@morrieglick4137 7 лет назад
Many thanks for taking the time to reply. It is a rather difficult, but nice, issue.
@AkigrafieLive
@AkigrafieLive 7 лет назад
Finally! A review not only based on video specs and things I'm not interessted in. Thanks. This video was the answer to lot of my questions.
@davidthorpe7732
@davidthorpe7732 7 лет назад
I'm happy to hear that. The GH5 is for me the best Micro Four Thirds camera so far but its video ability often overshadows its stills. It is just as capable a stills camera as its Olympus rival but just gets overlooked in the torrent of video people's excitement.
@mr5string
@mr5string 7 лет назад
Fantastic review David. I purchased mine for photography with a few videos thrown in now and again, it's fantastic.
@henryframpton
@henryframpton 7 лет назад
Fantastic review, David! You may remember I PMed you a few months ago when I was contemplating the G85 or FZ300. Needless to say I still have not bought either! To my advantage circumstances have delayed my investment and I am glad they have with the emergence of the GH5! P.S. love the way you add in dry humor "tea-totaller" etc! Again your no messing, uncluttered delivery is always so refreshing to watch and listen to. Lovely images. Cheers!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks Henry!
@conradsenior5843
@conradsenior5843 7 лет назад
You have the best reviews David. I'm trying to hold off on buying this until the price drops. You make it VERY hard.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks Conrad - just think of the wait as a form of self-discipline. The longer you wait, the better a person you are, like a sort of photographic dieting :-)
@srhphoto1
@srhphoto1 7 лет назад
Fantastic review David. Very interesting to hear your comments and see the results of using AF-C with Olympus lenses. Thanks. Simon.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Without the DfD to aid it, the GH5 must pack quite some computing power and the Olympus lenses quite some motor power to move so fast. Thanks, Simon!
@alvinburrell
@alvinburrell 7 лет назад
Always the best reviews on RU-vid...
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
I'm happy to hear you say that - tanks Alvin!
@MicroFourNerds
@MicroFourNerds 7 лет назад
Eeek I've been waiting for this, love your videos. I've just got a gh5 myself it's so lovely. I've yet to give it a proper go for stills yet but I'm excited to do so!
@DynamixWarePro
@DynamixWarePro 7 лет назад
I walays wait to see your reviews, so thanks for the reviewing the GH5! I have a GH5 and have been using it for a month and I am quite impressed by it the more I use it and get better at doing so. I used to have a GH4, and I got a GH5 I primarily for shooting videos, but since I got more serious about photography this year, I have been far from disappointed on that end and have been using it to take photos of ancient monuments and old buildings for a project I am working on and it has worked well so far, especially producing less noise in shadows over the GH4. It has been great for shooting macro with my Olympus 60mm, although I do wish there was slightly longer MFT macro lenses other than 30, 45 and 60mm, like 75 to 100mm, especially for subjects like butterflies, bees, dragonflies etc... which can fly away when you get close to them. I could adapt my Sigma 105mm EX DG macro, but as its a full frame lens, the size and weight don't make me want to as its quite a bit bigger and heavier than the Olympus lens. I like how the colours are improved over the GH4. I noticed that on the GH4, it had a sort of red cast to the colours, but the GH5 doesn't. The only slight issue I have with the colours is that Caucasian skin tones don't look the best to my eye. I have taken a few photos of myself both with the GH5 and GH4, and although the GH5 results looked a little better, it always had small areas of my face appearing yellowish which didn't look quite right which is what the GH4 did. On the V-Log L profile on the GH5, it was quite a bit more accurate on skin tones (I think a Panasonic rep said that V-Log L uses close to Rec 2100 colours), but that isn't for shooting photos with though. I quite like how fast the camera focuses when taking photos, and as you said, using Olympus lenses I I didn't see much difference when using my Olympus 60mm Macro than I did with Panasonic lenses, except that Panasonic lenses are a little faster at focusing initially as you also said. Other than the auto focus not working the best in video mode (I don't mid as I usually set focus with the camera and then manually adjust in most situations and I think Panasonic may give us a firmware update in the future to improve that), I am overall quite pleased and it seems the GH5 has given me everything I was wanting that I didn't have in the GH4 like IBIS, 20MP, better colours, no AA filter, Focus Transitions, less noise, especially in shadows to name a few things. The only thing I was hoping for with the GH5 was improved dynamic range, which it doesn't really have except having cleaner shadows which is still a big plus over the GH4s noisy shadows. The extra weight and size compared to the GH4 did bother me initially, but now that I have used it for a month, I don't mind but I do now have to get a bigger camera bag to carry it, plus all my lenses in since they won't all fit into my current bags. Still as you said, the size of the GH5 is still offset by the small lenses. Since I also take wildlife photos, I quite like sometimes using 6K photo for it and extracting stills, especially for subjects like moving birds, but I did notice that when using 6K, when you are recording, the exposure meter stays on 0 and you can see your exposure, other than using zebras to see over exposed areas, which wasn't so useful as I would have liked to have kn own what exposure I was at. I currently have the original Panasonic 12-35mm and 20mm f/1.7 II and I am thinking now of getting the Olympus 12-40 for wide angle genral purpose shots. I know it doesn't have IS, but I read that it has better corner sharpness than the 12-35, which I want since I like the 12-35mm and will keep using it, but on wide shots, the softer edges are sometimes noticeable, especially shooting video and want better overall sharpness.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Interesting and informative comment - thanks! It's always a relief to find that someone has made similar findings over things like focusing. I started out with the 105mm f/2.8 Sigma and good as it was, I found it heavy and a little inconvenient to use which is why I bought the 60mm. For some reason lens makers apart from Olympus seem to concentrate on short focal length macro lens, whereas what is now needed is a lounge rone, 100mm. On the standard zoom, yes I agree there too. The Olympus has better edge performance at wide apertures and actually with the GH5's Olympus grade stabilization, the dual system is icing on the cake more than a necessity.
@josephbryant8790
@josephbryant8790 7 лет назад
Superb review, finally someone paying attention to the stills side of things as well!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks Joseph. Because it is so video capable, the GH5 gets viewed as a video camera. But it isn't, it really is a hybrid as capable with stills as it is with movie. Possible my biggest liking for it is that it is so very usable - that My Menu system is brilliant.
@dannyhale5375
@dannyhale5375 7 лет назад
That's for your fast response and your experienced insight!
@MrRalphBraun
@MrRalphBraun 7 лет назад
thanks David for what has been missing on the GH5 reviews, a stills perspective. I think I will now purchase the GH5, with the Oly lens.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
A lot of money but one heck of a lot of photographic performance for it!
@abhishijack
@abhishijack 7 лет назад
Oh God Finally! You're the man everyone trusts... Thanks for the Review David. I just hope you upload more stuff regularly.
@jonsnih492
@jonsnih492 7 лет назад
I like the improved colours which are very close to Olympus. And the DFD2 is well polished it seems. I hope we will see it in the GX9. I still miss a pro oriented stills camera in Panny lineup. The GX8 isnt there yet. Thanks for another good review, Dave.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Glad you liked it, thanks! I think that Panasonic are probably taking the view that increasingly stills photographers are shooting video as well. Certainly if I were a daily working professional in the media still, I'd be gaining video expertise as fast as possible. In which case, the GH5 would be a strong professional contender. The GX9 will be interesting - I wonder how much of the GH5's spec the marketing guys will allow it to have.
@EduardoMendozaPhoto
@EduardoMendozaPhoto 6 лет назад
So nice to have a no frills, well grounded review, thanks David!!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 6 лет назад
It's nice to hear that because you have put your finger on exactly what I try to achieve - thanks!
@EduardoMendozaPhoto
@EduardoMendozaPhoto 6 лет назад
David Thorpe keep on with the good work for us photographers to enjoy, since I have enjoyed your reviews several times, cheers!!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 6 лет назад
Cherrs, Eduardo!
@leapnlarry
@leapnlarry 6 лет назад
Most gh5 videos focus on video, this review was awesome for highlighting the stills features. Most people are looking for a camera that can do both video and stills so they can buy one camera. Thanks for the video
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 6 лет назад
Yes, that's my thought too - glad you liked the video.
@canturgan
@canturgan 7 лет назад
I got out my old 1ds mk 1 the other day, now that is a massive camera that is incredibly heavy without a lens, put a 70-200 on it and your back will be complaining. The image quality is still amazing though. These days I use the GH4 because it is very versatile and great quality but I am looking at the GH5 now. Great review.
@davidthorpe7732
@davidthorpe7732 7 лет назад
Thanks! With my vidoes, stock photography, general work, product shots and all sorts I need a versatile camera too. I find the GH5 fills that spot just as the GH4 did. I think the upgrade is well worth it because Panasonic have managed to improve lots of things while spoiling nothing. And harking to what you say, if anyone thinks the GH5 is big, yes, take a look at a DSLR with 70-200mm. The IQ of a FF camera is always going to be better but I imagine you find the same as me - that the Micro Four Thirds cameras give _enough_ quality. That's the point.
@bradleyweghorst9473
@bradleyweghorst9473 7 лет назад
I look forward to new M43 gear just so I can see your reviews. As always, another great review!
@FrancisRouberty
@FrancisRouberty 7 лет назад
Merci pour cette excellente vidéo, David. Le GH5 n'a pas eu un début de carrière très facile sur RU-vid. Jamais je n'avais vu autant de tests et de sarcasmes sur l'autofocus d'un appareil. Panasonic n'a pas manqué de sortir du bois pour conseiller l'utilisateur. Comme un Frankenstein moderne, le marketing semblait s'être retourné contre ses créateurs. Tout le monde attendait le GH5 sur ses capacités en vidéo, n'est-ce pas sa spécialité ? Et votre vidéo démontre avec acuité ce que Panasonic a fait :le GH5 est un excellent appareil photographique. Votre démarche me fait penser qu'il faut toujours revenir aux points fondamentaux.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Je suis d'accord, Francis. L'autofocus marche trés, trés bien dans le rȏle d'appareil photo numérique mais tous le monde parlent de video. Moi-même, je trouve que l'autofocus marche ok en video mais je ne suis pas spécialiste. Comme vous avez dit, peut-être Panasonic serait sage à parler plus d'appareil photo et moins de caméra video.
@MaciejSarna
@MaciejSarna 6 лет назад
"Bird flying towards!!!" - brilliant! My head almost fell off the MFT mount on my body.
@davidthorpe7732
@davidthorpe7732 6 лет назад
😃
@DaMaxchi
@DaMaxchi 7 лет назад
Wonderful review! On the issue of size (and weight), may I offer another perspective. For the last several years, I have lugged a Nikon D7000 and a Canon HF G30 camcorder, as well as, supporting accessories around the world for my travel stills/videos. I look forward to the day when I can just bring a GH5 and perhaps one zoom with me on my journeys. I am very encouraged by your review! Thank you!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks for the kind words. You make a good point. I have become so used to Micro Four Thirds cameras that I take their compactness for granted. The GH5 is big by Micro Four Thirds standards but given that it can replace the gear you mention for you, by comparison it's a compact. It's good to get a perspective sometimes!
@b3naqua
@b3naqua 7 лет назад
your voice is almost ASMR-level relaxing
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
I just looked that up - what a great thought, thanks Ben.
@mrychel
@mrychel 7 лет назад
THANK YOU David for a review from a stills perspective. I have been checking for your review every day. I must say I agree on size, I like the G80 over the GH5 as an everyday camera. One of the advantages of Micro four thirds is that we can pick and choose a body and lens combination to fit our circumstances. One day a pocketable GM5 the next the GH5 for sports
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Yes, that's exactly it, Mark, I agree. The first thing that attracted me to Micro Four Thirds was that I could have a big camera or a small camera but they used the same lenses and all gave similar image quality.
@BrettAnhorn
@BrettAnhorn 7 лет назад
I just stumbled on your videos and love your reviews! Great humour!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks Brett. Photography is a wonderful thing and it's nice to laugh at the same time. Thanks so much!
@julienbeltran3714
@julienbeltran3714 7 лет назад
Good job David, as usual ! Another great video, thank you for your work.
@voxpopuli26190
@voxpopuli26190 7 лет назад
Thank You ! It is always a very big pleaser to see your reviews. There are really the best ! Thank You David for all the years. PS : For me too supernova1976 "When I see a review by David Thorpe, I drop everything and watch it."
@avarmadillo
@avarmadillo 7 лет назад
Brilliant David. I'm only a video shooter, but I get so much out of your whole thought and presentation process. Thank you, so much.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
That's nice to hear, William, thanks. My video expertise is limited to say the least so I alway make that clear. Thaty's my excuse, anyway!
@IslandFilmMaker
@IslandFilmMaker 7 лет назад
Been waiting! Exactly!! Always enjoy your reviews TY David :)
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks Richard!
@petercox9250
@petercox9250 7 лет назад
Nice review as always David. On thing I have noticed about this camera on RU-vid - Vloggers who have moved to it from bigger DSLR's seem to struggle with the autofocus in their recent content.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
I don't go into video much, as you know but everything I tried worked as I would have expected. You can control video focus sensitivity and speed through the custom video AF setting in the menu which I haven't seen anyone mention. In general for video, I try to use manual focus but it isn't always possible. For someone coming from a different system they may not appreciate how sensitive and accurate the touch screen and joystick focusing are.
@Ulrich.Bierwisch
@Ulrich.Bierwisch 7 лет назад
There was a big RU-vid-video-dispute about settings and the possibility to improve AF-C between Max Yuryev and Photo Joseph a month ago. Finally they met, did a lot of testing, went pretty silent and called it a draw. In addition Panasonic came up with an announcement that most of the problems are related to user error, that it is best to just use 1-area AF and to press the shutter button halfway down if it is still not working as expected. Panasonic also pledged to further improve the AF quality. So translated from marketing language into normal-speak they sad they know that the AF-C in video is not working correctly and they will fix it.
@ilanhoward
@ilanhoward 7 лет назад
Ulrich Bierwisch Continueius AF in video does not compare to the likes of canon (best in class for video C-AF) or Sony. My guess is that panasonic will add phase detection points in the next generation.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
If it isn't practical to focus manually, I tend to use a small focus box and half press the shutter for the next best thing to manual focus. I really don't like leaving such an important thing as focus all to the camera.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Maybe - the trouble is that PDAF in mirrorless cameras is limited by the speed of the sensor readout. Just as Canon users must accept some disadvantages to their system, maybe Micro Four Thirds users will have to accept some on theirs. Even with the best C-AF that could ever be devised, the camera can only make an educated guess at where you want to focus.
@jantestowy123
@jantestowy123 7 лет назад
A review I have been waiting for, thanx, great job!
@sionhannuna5418
@sionhannuna5418 7 лет назад
Great review David. Bit too big for me, but if the gx9 (or whatever it will be called) inherits the GH5's still performance, you've demonstrated, I shall certainly be upgrading my gx80.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks Sion - yes, I think the size will be a stumbling block for many Micro Four Thirds users. The GX9 seems to be what the stills people are waiting for - I just hope Panasonic's marketing people don't restrict it from borrowing too much from the GH5.
@bicycleninja1685
@bicycleninja1685 5 лет назад
6k, VLOG RAW, image stabilization, HDMI output so that you and your subject can preview on large monitor, user friendly and customizable controls, compact, zebra stripes/focus peaking... what doesn't it have that you would need for portrait photography? Combined with a Metabones Speed Booster Cine adapter and Canon lenses, it's a sweet setup.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 5 лет назад
Nothing I can disagree with there!
@chrisaddy4604
@chrisaddy4604 7 лет назад
Beautiful review David. Honestly surprised you didn't mention anything about the EVF. I havent touched my GH4 for many reasons since getting the GH5 and it's mostly due to falling in love with the viewfinder. And like the gh4 (I've tested both) it doesn't even get much past warm after filming 4k for 30+ minutes.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks Chris! I do describe the EVF as superb in the review. It's unfortunately just not possible to go into detail about everything because the video gets too long. It's easier with the other cameras in Micro Four Thirds but the top range cameras introduce all the new and state of the art stuff - and these days there is a lot of it.
@lowbudgetproduction
@lowbudgetproduction 7 лет назад
Excellent review. Well put in words. RIP Rick Parfitt.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Yes, RIP Rick Parfitt. Glad you liked the review. Love your ID - very subtly funny :-)
@lowbudgetproduction
@lowbudgetproduction 7 лет назад
Thank you. "Slowhand" with a lens cap on.
@srobart
@srobart 7 лет назад
When I bought my GH5, I didn't intend to use it for photography, but now, it's my go-to camera for both video and stills, while my bigger, heavier D800 sits on the table in my photo room. I was, frankly, quite surprised at just how well this little camera did photos. Of course it can't really compete with the D800 in resolution, or the cleanness of the files at higher ISO, but it does in color rendition and autofocus speed (in fact, I think the GH5 might be a bit faster in AF than the D800). The GH5 is the camera that kept me from buying the D850, I just don't think I *need* a D850 (or any DSLR, for that matter) anymore, even though I intended on upgrading my D800 this year. In terms of cleanliness of the files, specifically relating to ISO, the GH5 is about 2 stops behind the D800. So, at ISO 200, the GH5 is roughly equivalent to the D800 at ISO 800 (in terms of noise, not light). ISO 1600 on the GH5 is roughly equivalent to the D800 at ISO 6400, and so on. I could never recommend a GH5 for people who routinely shoot in low light. I don't like going over ISO 1600, but if I really, really had to, I would go to ISO 3200, but after that, it's just "bleh". When I go back to the D800's OVF (which is a splendid OVF), it feels old, like I'm using a relic of days gone by (kinda like I feel when I use a rotary phone). The GH5's EVF is amazing and I think every camera in the world should have one of these. It's amazing to be able to preview exposure right there in the EVF, which is something you can't do with an OVF, at all. What I really love is the 6K video (go to 6K photo mode and set your camera to use the shutter button to start/stop capture), it will spit out a 6K video at 30 frames/sec in HEVC format. The detail is unlike ANY video I've ever seen before and it's NOTICEABLY sharper than even 4K. You need a beefy computer to play it though. It also shoots in 4:3 aspect, so you'll need to zoom in, in post, if you want 16:9, but the detail is there, so that's not an issue. The first native lens that I picked up was the Leica DG 100-400mm and it's been such a beautiful combination. I'm getting shots that I couldn't have dreamed of getting with my D800, unless I spent many tens of thousands of dollars on a 600mm+ lens. While I'll admit that the 100-400mm will never gather as much light as a full-frame lens, it also comes at a fraction of the price and weight. You simply CANNOT get an 800mm (equivalent) lens with this kind of sharpness for $1799 (you'd need to add AT LEAST another 0 to the end of that number). AND, I can hand-hold the 100-400mm because it's not that heavy and it uses the GH5 Dual-IS system. I've even shot handheld video at 800mm...try THAT on full-frame!
@davidthorpe7732
@davidthorpe7732 7 лет назад
You're obviously a happy photographer! I'm with you on everything you say especially your realistic take on the ISO performance. A bigger sensor, all things being equal, will always yield better image quality but the question is whether you need that extra quality. If not, the trade off against size and weight and he tEVF and shooting (and video) facilities is well worht while. And yes, I have used many 600 and 800mm FF lenses in the past and like you it is not experience I would relish again.
@vhc7764
@vhc7764 7 лет назад
David: Wonderful review...Thank you! The GH5 is priced right at 42nd St Photo--$1798 so I'll place my order.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
That's a hefty discount of over £300 off the UK price. It'll be a year or more before they come down to that priuce here, if they ever do, in fact. I'd grab that!
@vhc7764
@vhc7764 7 лет назад
Oh well...I must apologize for my bad press. The GH5 I originally ordered was an international model--that's why the price was so attractive. I cancelled it today and paid $1945 for the USA model!
@JorgeRzezak
@JorgeRzezak 6 лет назад
Hi David, I guess you are working hard on the Lumix G9. I'm waiting for your superb review.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 6 лет назад
Th anks Jorge!I have a G9 on order and looking forward to reviewing it. I have no contact with or help from Panasonic whatsoever so I have to buy these things! From the specs, it looks like Panasonic have been reading my letters, the G9 has the My Menu and focus joystick plus in camera charging and external power from the USB C port. Having said that, they can't have been reading my letters because they don't even read my emails :-)
@soundknight
@soundknight 7 лет назад
wasn't expecting that evil chicken, man that thing creeped me out when me and the kids were watching it on TV
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
That is Feathers McGraw, a penguin disguised as a chicken in order to carry out a dastardly crime. Just don't call him evil to his face, that's my advice :-)
@tubekane
@tubekane 7 лет назад
Very well done, Thank you for this David
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks, Dennis.
@johnrenton3463
@johnrenton3463 7 лет назад
As always, everything we GASsers need to know :-) Very well done again David - now for the Oly 12-100mm and Pana 8-18mm ??
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks John. As ever, it's hard to get hold of these lenses. Even ePz can't get them sometimes.
@williamssm95
@williamssm95 7 лет назад
Hi David, great videos! I found your channel recently and am really enjoying them. I recently bought the GH5 and the video is amazing...but stills...oh man the stills. I see the photos you took with the GH5 and it gives me hope...but all I can get is noise. Maybe I'm too picky having come from the D750. Any tips?
@JamesAllenUK
@JamesAllenUK 7 лет назад
THE review I've been waiting for.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks James!
@marklaurendet1861
@marklaurendet1861 7 лет назад
Thanks for another nice video. Glad the GH5 works as a good stills camera, but I still hoping a new Gx9 comes out with joy stick, dual SD cards, 6K etc. As I really like the tilting EVF
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
I think a lot of photographers like the rangefinder design bodies and the GX9 seems eagerly anticipated. There'll be a limit to what Panasonic put in and on it for marketing reasons. I wonder when it'll appear?
@morrieglick4137
@morrieglick4137 7 лет назад
Thank you David for another pleasant, insightful & honest review. Your review of the Pana GM5 was instrumental in my decision to buy that camera. I enjoy using it but am ready to upgrade to either the Oly Om1 mark ii or Pana GH5. I have no intentions of making money with my photography - just want the very best quality possible in as small a package as possible (hence my purchase of the GM5). I am currently shooting about 95% stills but expect video will climb to 20%-25% in the next year or 2. In your option which camera would you recommend - Oly or Pana? Thank you in advance.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
The GH% is definitely the better video camera for specialist use, more options for enthusiasts or professionals. On the other hand, E-M1 Mkll has all the video options most need,. For stills, there is nothing in it in terms of IQ and although the Olympus has the PDAF, it is no different from the Panasonic with its DfD. The Olympus has the edge in high speed shooting and will do so shooting RAW which the Panasonic will not. One deciding factor could be the size. The GH5 is considerably bigger. Another would be controllability. The GH5 has the super focusing joystick and a truly useful My Menu system . I'd be happy to use either camera and for me a decision between the two would come down to size and controllability. On size, Olympus, on controllability and ease of use, the GH5. Personally, I'd plump for the GH5, especially since it is a fair bit cheaper. But, overall, both are subtly different, superb state of the art cameras. It might come down to writing the names on two sheets of paper, closing your eyes, shuffling the papers and and blindly sticking a pin in one of them!
@analienundercover8207
@analienundercover8207 7 лет назад
best review that is not hyped on video
@davidthorpe7732
@davidthorpe7732 7 лет назад
Thanks! Everyone talks about the GH5 as a video camera with stills capability. I just don't buy that. It is different from but in no way inferior to the Olympus E-M1 MkII as a stills camera. Plus, it has the physical form of a stills camera, not a video camera. Panasonic have pursued a hybrid route for the GH5 and that's what it is, a hybrid. As a stills man, if Panasonic had sacrificed stills to video on the GH5, I wouldn't be interested in it at all. They didn't.
@DennisMook
@DennisMook 7 лет назад
David, another excellent presentation. There are none better. Not only technically good and informative, but enjoyable as well. Thank you. A question. Looking at the review on my iPad with a Retina screen, it appeared the blue and green parts of the multi-colored ball you photographed with the GH-5 as a color comparison to the E-M1 MKII, showed banding. Was there banding or possibly a compression anomaly of posting the video on You Tube? Thank you. Dennis Mook The Wandering Lensman
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
You have good observation, Dennis. It's my fault, the lines are on the ball itself and seem to show more at high ISOs and in certain lights. I just tried using the mechanical and electronic shutter but the results are identical. I can't find any sign of banding.
@DennisMook
@DennisMook 7 лет назад
David, thank you for the clarification. Now, at least we know the sensor and lens resolves very fine detail!
@dhedc
@dhedc 7 лет назад
Another superb review. Thank you so much.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks, David.
@waldemirqueiroz3483
@waldemirqueiroz3483 6 лет назад
Good to review it now that the G9 is on the horizon. I am wondering that GH5 is still a better camera for stills considering that now we can find a used one with reasonable price.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 6 лет назад
Thanks Waldemir! It looks to from the specs that any stills man would be better off waiting for the G9. On the other hand, you make a good point about the GH5 price dropping. The G9's USB C in body battery charging and external power and 20fps bursts are the main attractions over the GH5. If they aren't that important to you and it saved serious money, well worth doing. In every major respect the internals of the two cameras are the same and externally, quite minor differences.
@waldemirqueiroz3483
@waldemirqueiroz3483 6 лет назад
David Thorpe - David, great insights. As a truth of matter, what it really bugs me with both cameras is their size. I currently I use a gx80/85. I am very pleased by the form factor and I have invested in glass (both native and adapted legacy lenses with the proper adapters). Therefore I am currently committed to the MFT ecosystem. What makes me tick to move to the G9/GH5 would be the 20MP sensor and the EVF (that I really dislike in the GX80/GX85. What I would not wish to lose is the small size. I can keep my camera with a 20mm lens or the 9-18 Olympus in a small men’s bag. Something that I could not do with the big G’s. I used before the LX100. I barely had to readjust. Anyway I keep glancing on the FUJI XPRO 2. Everything in life is a compromise.
@davidthorpe7732
@davidthorpe7732 6 лет назад
Yes, all compromise! The G9 appears to be sized between the GH5 and G80, so not so big but still very different from the GX80. The Olympus E-M10 Mk# is a small camera and should be baggable - might be worth a look of you can come to terms with the menu system.
@waldemirqueiroz3483
@waldemirqueiroz3483 6 лет назад
Considering that I have some struggle with the Lumix menu system, I do not want to go into a deeper trouble with the Olympus. I am leaning towards keeping the GX80/85 and wait January for the G9. The price difference with the GH5 s really relevant, and I expect that the stills performance is the same or better than the GH5 in a smaller body.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 6 лет назад
I'd expect so, yes. The My Menu option on the GH5 (and G9) is more useful than it sounds at first glance. You can just put all the options you change in there and arrange them in any order you want. It's that and the joystick that are the standout options for me. And that LDC panel on the top looks to be super useful to me.
@awalseidu1866
@awalseidu1866 7 лет назад
Nice work from you with the review on gh5
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thank you, Awal!
@spartanswatchreviews6558
@spartanswatchreviews6558 7 лет назад
BIg thanks for detailed review, I may be upgrading from G80 and I have learned a lot!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
There's no downside to the GH5 compared to the G80 other than the size and price. The G80 with My Menu and the joystick would be fantastic.
@ThePNWRiderWA
@ThePNWRiderWA 7 лет назад
Probably the best review on the internet of the camera. The question for myself is which one the Olympus or the Panasonic? I had heard the Olympus had better IBS but they seem very close. Mostly I shoot wildlife ( birds , mammals ) and my omd 1 and 5 mark ll are lacking with tracking and the screen blackout is frustrating.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
The stabilization, If I had to say one or the other I'd say the Olympus E-M1 Mkll was marginally better but if someone else found they were the same I wouldn't argue the toss. Either way, around 5 stops is plenty good enough with the combined lens stabilization being something of a luxury. Choosing one or the other is very difficult. For anyone who has in the past used Olympus or Panasonic, I'd see no compelling reason to change brand. The Panasonic is cheaper and has better control over focusing and a better menu system. The Olympus is a much more Micro Four Thirds size and feels tailor made in the hand. Because I review them I'm one of the few people who would have both. With an E-M5 MkII and a G80, I can say immediately that I prefer the G80 all round and provide reasons why. Between the GH5 and Olympus E-M1 Mkll, when I'm going out to take pictures, I can find no reason to take one more than the other. In the end I just pick up one or the other and get on with it. In your case, if you like the handling and feel of your present cameras, I'd get the E-M1 Mkll.
@ThePNWRiderWA
@ThePNWRiderWA 7 лет назад
David Thorpe Thanks David. Always a source of knowledge and insights.
@mrpwd7322
@mrpwd7322 7 лет назад
With 6 stops of stabilization, it is rapidly becoming the choice for beer drinkers. LOL
@GUTOMOFFICIAL
@GUTOMOFFICIAL 4 года назад
Thank you for making this video about GH5 Stills! Do you think 10 megapixel photos on GH5s is a stepback and big difference in quality? 10 megapixel is lower than the GX7 photos!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 года назад
No, it's not a step back because there is the GH5 if it is stills that you want. Or better, the G9. it just reflects the fact that the GH5s is intended as a video camera and the 10Mp means bigger and therefore more sensitive pixels, hence less noise. 10Mp is more than enough for even 4K video.
@DanOhPhotography
@DanOhPhotography 6 лет назад
love to see review of G9 especially compare to GH5 or Oly EM1 mark2. I have both. Only thing I don't like G9 is the shutter is TOOO sensitive. I switch and is using back button to focus but the shutter becomes even more sensitive. I have to keep trigger finger clearly away from the shutter.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 6 лет назад
I'm just finishing the rview now - in there is a reference to the shutter!
@xaositectz
@xaositectz 7 лет назад
It doesn't hold up to the standard the e-m1 ii sets in terms of continous auto focusing- the olympus is both faster and more precise. For birding the e-m1 ii is 3 or 4fold better than the panasonic. The stabilization is also much better, and the high-res shot and live composite options are very good. Aside from these though the IQ of the gh5 is not much worse and I like the design, ergonomics and menu system better- and ofc. video features are in a different league.
@morrieglick4137
@morrieglick4137 7 лет назад
Thank you for your prompt reply. Is my understanding correct that the DFD only works with Pana lenses? If so, have you noticed any degradation in performance when using Oly lenses on GH5. Actually in Canada the GH5 is $200 more than M1. Fortunately for me that is not a factor in my decision.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Strange about the price - I'm a simple soul and thought makers probably price at cost plus a profit margin. Obviously not - they get what they can. I use mainly Olympus lenses on my GH5. The only difference is that the initial lock on is a bit slower than with a Panasonic lens. In terms of AF-C, it is very similar with both cameras with the lens once it has locked on. The Panasonic matrix focusing system is better than Olympus's, much less likely to let focus slip to the background. Also, the Panasonic has a terrific array of focus area options and some customizable ones too. I have made one that is just perfect for fast moving cyclists. I think the Olympus's tracking focus, where you lock on to a subject and the camera follows that around the image area is better than Panasonic's All in all, six of one half a dozen of the other. Difficult.
@jasonwiser4711
@jasonwiser4711 7 лет назад
That was a great review. Thank you!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Good to hear that - thanks!
@soundknight
@soundknight 7 лет назад
"better stills reviews" gosh no David, your the best for me!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
:-)
@m.gwincinski6949
@m.gwincinski6949 7 лет назад
Hi David, I have noticed that the video​ quality on my phone was really good. Could you please tell me, if possible, what camera setup did you use to film this episode. Thanks
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
The phone video is ridiculously good nowadays, isn't it? The Micro Four Thirds cameras are still a lot better, though, I'm glad to say. The bulk of this video is done on a GX8 or G80/85 with Olympus 60mm macro lens and on a tripod. I pick up either body depending on which is to hand. I use them on mains power and have the WiFi on to send each pic to my computer as it is taken. A lot of the stuff is stills but I like to use 4K video to allow me to zoom and pan in post processing, plus I like to use Panasonic's focus transition facility.
@Pabula
@Pabula 7 лет назад
Superb review, as all your videos. Panasonic should pay you, you just made me buy one =) Btw David, what do you recommend, going for the Olympus Pro 12-40 / 40-150 or Panasonic New 12-35 / 35/100 ? I can get cheaper the olympus, but dual IS would be missed, what do you suggest?
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
The stabilization on the GH5 makes the dual stabilization a luxury - though I'd alway prefer to have it on the basis of the more the merrier. I'd probably choose the two Olympus lenses for the extra reach to 150mm and their all round quality feel and unsurpassed sharpness. However, the size of both these lenses means they are not the sort you would take out casually, in case you came across a picture. For casual as well as serious use and travel I'd go for the two Panasonics, smaller, lighter and they'll use the DfD focus system too. It's hard to choose - but overall, the two Olympus modes because they cover, in just two lenses, the whole of the focal range I'd normally use plus the 4--150 will take the 1.4x extender - well worth having.
@SlothHunter2
@SlothHunter2 7 лет назад
Thanks for this reply. I think I'll start off with the 2 Panasonics (assuming I end up with the GH5) and see where that leads me. IF I end up with the Olympus, then Oly lenses for sure.
@marklaurendet1861
@marklaurendet1861 7 лет назад
A quick question regarding the rear control wheel / hat. I had a quick look at a GH5 in a shop and when I pressed / rocked the rotating wheel in the 4 directions nothing selected. On the G85 I really like the layout of the 4 way switch with focus mode, ISO, WB & Fn3. Can you set this up the same on the GH5? I always forget what is assigned to what so I like the icons on the buttons as well. In the shop where I tried the camera the rear wheel seemed to control what the joy stick did so a bit redundant. But I only had a quick play as they had real customers looking to buy it wanting a look as well.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
hi Mark - the rotating wheel is by default just used for incrementing settings, navigating the menu etc. If you wish, it will act as Fn buttons, as on the G85, in this case Fns 17 to 20, with the same functions available as all the other Fn buttons. The joystick can be also be used as Fns 12-16 if you wish. With the three dedicated buttons on top, that gives you 23 buttons, the Quick Menu and My Menu to customize the camera to your needs. I think I'd need a chip implanted in my brain to keep track of all those.
@ariasparrow
@ariasparrow 7 лет назад
Great review David, I've been following you since I bought GX8. But I do video a lot with my GX8, do you think it's worth it if I upgrade to GH5? I only have 2 lenses, 12-35 f/2.8 and 25 f/1.7, you think I should invest in more lenses and lighting or body? Because I think my 4K footage from GX8 still great, but GH5 give 4K with no crop, it is so tempting. What do you think? Thanks again and sorry for my bad english.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks, Aria! Nothing wrong with your English. I think I'd get another lens, maybe the 35-100 f/2.8 first. You seem pretty satisfied with the 4K results from your GX8 so a body upgrade could wait. Maybe the price of the GH5 will come down a bit too but the GX8 is a very, very good camera in the meantime.
@ariasparrow
@ariasparrow 7 лет назад
David Thorpe thanks a lot David! I am thinking about getting that lens too. Well, thanks for your insight, I will keep my GX8 for now.
@brich3368
@brich3368 7 лет назад
Thank you for sharing, This is an excellent review, very informative.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Glad you found it useful, thanks.
@richardwood3242
@richardwood3242 7 лет назад
Great review, thanks! Woody
@nunoarmando7426
@nunoarmando7426 7 лет назад
Greetings David! wonderful review as always. So many stuff. Wish I had a place to rent lenses and cameras here, it will be so much easier. How does the 40-150 olympus works on the GH5, especially the stabilization?
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks, Nuni! It works just great on the GH5 and I use it often. In AFC without the DfD or PDAF it can take a little longer to lock on to a moving subject but it stills locks on quickly and once it has it focus it hangs on to it much the same on either camera. The stabilization, I find no difference between the GH5 and Olympus E-M1 Mkll. There may be some if you could test bench it but it is so good on either make that the differences are insignificant under working conditions.
@nunoarmando7426
@nunoarmando7426 7 лет назад
And that's what matters! I really don't need test charts. I need a trustworthy opinion, and it couldn't come from a better place than you sir! Thank you very much again. I'm really upgrading from my wonderful E-M1 (keeping it), and the gh5 seem's such a wonderful camera. I love love that handling. The size is not a big deal for me as I tend to carry 3,4 or 5 lenses and that's where it can make a difference. And that's where our m4/3 system shines!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
I'll second that, Nuno.
@LozzerGuide
@LozzerGuide 7 лет назад
Fantastic review (as always!) Do you have any plans on checking out the GX850? :-)
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks! I don't have any plans but If I can get hold of one, I will.
@LittleOldChris
@LittleOldChris 7 лет назад
Hi David, Fantastic review. I'm looking to upgrade my GH4 to either the GH5 or E-M1 Mk ii. I am only interested in the stills side of things, perhaps the odd quick bit of video. As you have now reviewed both cameras given the choice which would you spend your hard earned money on and why? I've just ordered the Olympus 40-150 pro with tele converter to get more pictures of my kids playing their sports. I presume this works equally well on both but wondering about handling. All the best..
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
The 40-150 Pro feels great and handles well on either. Actually, it does so on any camera...! I honestly can't make a choice between these two cameras for stills. In terms of performance there is nothing in it unless one or the other has something specific someone wanted. The Olympus is a much better size, more Micro Four Thirds, and feels just beautiful and solid in the hands, fits like a glove. The GH5 has better placed and more versatile controls to my mind, especially the joystick and My Menu options. I think the only way to choose would be to handle them both and decide on that. For some the GH5's size will be a problem, for others an advantage. Funny enough, I have them both here but for the pretty straightforward pictures that I do, I mostly pick up the G80.
@LittleOldChris
@LittleOldChris 7 лет назад
Thanks again, David. My draw to the Olympus is when looking at pictures people have taken with some lenses like the Nocticron I've found that 9/10 times from the ones I liked, the E-M1 was used which gave me a bit of camera envy (poor GH4). Dare I say the Fuji jpegs are another level up still but selling all my m4/3 gear though possible would probably be a silly thing to do to go x-t2 route.As it is, in order to upgrade I have to sell my GH4, grip, 12-35, 35-100 and 45-200 to get the e-m1 with 12-40 and cover outlay for 40-150 pro(12-100 not sure about) or GH5 with lieca, leaving me with pl25/1.4, Nocticron and oly40-150Pro. Unfortunately, I can't handle the cameras as there are no shops where I live, so a gamble like when I bought the GH4. Phew, sorry to waffle :-)
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Not waffling - or we both are! Colour wise the two cameras are pretty much the same now. With the lenses, the Olympus Pros work as well on the GH5 as the Olympus. For S-AF, probably faster but it is so fast that it becomes impossible to tell. I'm just using the 12-60mm. It's nice but I much prefer my Panasonic 14-140. Little difference in sharpness, the 12-60 is maybe a touch more contrasty. But mainly, the 14-140 is only half a stop slower at 14mm and around a stop at 60mm - but goes right on to 140mm. It's a tradeoff but it's a lot smaller and cheaper than the 12-60 f/2.8 too. The Fujis seem nice but bigger lenses and not the armoury of them that Micro Four Thirds has. I don't know! Buying a GH5 and using your Panasonic lenses looks a viable option and those lenses f/2.8 are beautifully compact compared to the Olympus's.
@koolkutz7
@koolkutz7 7 лет назад
I have the Panasonic G80/G85 David so I don't think I will upgrade to the GH5, as mine is perfectly suitable for my needs. You mentioned size & weight of the GH5-well, the G80 is pretty chunky and weighs a fair bit with the battery grip which is kinda good in one way as it improves ernomics expecially for vertical shooting but does fly in the face of the MFT philosophy somewhat!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
It's all a balance and luckily Micro Four Thirds continues to offer a good range of camera sizes. I wouldn't like to see the system getting more and more technically excellent at the expense of body size. Otherwise it'd get like cars, where the base model keeps growing in size for 'added value' until they have to bring in a new base model because the old one is now family car.
@koolkutz7
@koolkutz7 7 лет назад
Good car reference David! I do like the Panasonic Menu system too (on my G80) but I believe they have changed it somewhat in the GH5, is that correct?
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Yes, it is changed but no new learning curve, thank goodness. There are the usuals Rec, Motion Picture, Custom, Setup and Playback. When you set the camera on Movie on the mode dial, another menu appears, Creative Video to cover clever stuff like WFM/Vector Scope (no, me neither). The Custom menu has been subdivided into 5 sub sections but it will scroll straight down through them as before, just that now if you want to customize the exposure bits like ISO Increments you can go straight to them rather than wade through the others.. Then there's the My Menu where you can take any menu item and put it there and put it in the order you want with a setting so that when you press the menu button, it goes straight to My Menu. Olympus have taken a not so good menu and made it worse. Panasonic have taken a good one and made it better. I guess the GH5's menu and controls could be improved but honestly, I wouldn't be able to come up with a better system. You can have the dial on the back of the camera (where the G80s does ISOI etc) act as four functions press buttons but I haven't done it because I haven't got anything I want to assign to it.
@igetsmart
@igetsmart 7 лет назад
super nice video as always -
@davidthorpe7732
@davidthorpe7732 7 лет назад
If you say so :-) Thanks, much appreciated.
@breadyegg
@breadyegg 7 лет назад
I note from the captions that you have the new Pana 12-60mm f2.8-4. I'm presuming there is a review coming of this? Thanks
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
I'm putting it together now - end of the week or early next, I hope.
@breadyegg
@breadyegg 7 лет назад
David Thorpe Sweet.
@cosminovidiumunteanu
@cosminovidiumunteanu 7 лет назад
thanks for the review. On point as always 😀
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
Thanks, Cosmin.
@davidalankjoller4744
@davidalankjoller4744 7 лет назад
Whenever I listen to a review that has no critical comment - and I don't recall hearing any here - I am immediately skeptical. Every camera has faults or weaknesses, no matter who makes it. The value of a review resides in hearing these faults. The problem with nearly all those who make camera reviews is that they have nothing but praise for the product. That''s not reality in the camera business.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 7 лет назад
I have used the very best cameras in the world day to day in my career which gives me experience that is hard to attain for a reviewer, many of whom are technicians more than photographers. I point out the strengths and weaknesses - for example the physical size and price of the GH5 - but it is not my job to decide for someone else what is good or bad. I explain the camera and what I think it is good for and what it is not based on personal experience. You will note that I go out with cameras and use them extensively. I also stick strictly to Micro Four Thirds system equipment so comparisons with other systems are not relevant. Many reviewers seem to talk more about the specs on paper than they do about the equipment. Thus, the fact that this camera has slower burst speeds than another might seem a cause for criticism for you. For me, fast enough is all that is necessary, as is sharp enough. I'm not impressed by mega burst speeds or technical circus tricks. I judge by whether a camera is up to the tasks I need to do and report on that basis. I often hear from people who criticize 'too much depth of field' or too much noise' in Micro Four Thirds cameras. I advise them to buy a FF camera in that case. That's not a criticism of Micro Four Thirds, the question is whether you can restrict DoF _enough_ for your needs or shoot at high _enough_ ISOs for your needs. That is a professional outlook. Criticism for its own sake is self-indulgent. Observation and judgement helps everyone and that's my aim. My viewers are intelligent enough to draw their own conclusions.
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