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A (revised) approach for dealing with Japanese Kanji characters | Vlog #20 

Japanese In A Year
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They're pesky little fellas.
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@kaylarodgers7775
@kaylarodgers7775 7 лет назад
My favorite way to deal with kanji is through context. I'm not saying that your way isn't efficient because it seems to be working very well for you! But I think that through learning them this way, you are not only learning vocabulary you are learning new kanji. And an added bonus is that you don't have to worry about memorizing each individual reading. Keep up the good work!
@JapaneseInAYear
@JapaneseInAYear 7 лет назад
Whovian Gamer I'm learning in context of words only, too. Not as individual Kanji. Definitely seems like the way to go.
@minutekanji7082
@minutekanji7082 7 лет назад
totally agree
@quimidelasestrellas7594
@quimidelasestrellas7594 7 лет назад
What about using Remembering the Kanji of Heisig? It worked for me, I learned 2100 kanjis by 3 months and I still remember most of them after half year.
@ESRohner
@ESRohner 7 лет назад
I did the same thing. Took 3 months to run through RTK. No regrets, but it was a bit tedious for that last month. I do respect JINA's approach though because he has learned words as he worked along. It seems that a lot of those kanji in RTK have been pretty useless.
@hasbiallahalamin7669
@hasbiallahalamin7669 6 лет назад
Do you do the self learning?
@pathmaram
@pathmaram 5 лет назад
Please share your tips how you learn kanji
@Drwildy
@Drwildy 7 лет назад
You talked about it earlier and Gabe talks about it but I'm glad you're not uploading your deck, because making your own is just better in every way. I got infinitely higher quality flashcards when I sat down and made them rather than using someone elses. At this point learning a language is however you can make it work so whatever works keep at it. I started a few months ago but hopefully I'll be near the level you are aiming for in July of next year when I move to JP :)
@forgottenmemories21
@forgottenmemories21 7 лет назад
Nice but I don't learn kanji, I just read books or websites I enjoy and look up stuff (aka vocab) via either Rikaikan or my Japanese dictionary app. It's much simpler and frankly the lazy way since Anki flashcard production is so time consuming (well so is reviewing them). So as for something like 携帯電話 I can def. say I don't know the 携帯 part very well.. do I know them separately as kanji.. like could I identify the reading/meanings heck no lol Well maybe the 帯 part... maybe on a full moon lol But when reading a book, I always pronounce it 携帯電話 for two reasons: I haven't found anything that comes before 電話 besides 携帯 and also it just makes sense in the context of whatever story or website I'm reading ... no looking it up or anything. Now other words I do have to look up till I get a sense for them (aka memorizing them)
@nwaclicks2994
@nwaclicks2994 6 лет назад
So frustrated. Downloaded my first deck and the codec for my laptop doesn't read the file correctly. I'm not sure how to get it to work either. This isn't the first time I've had a problem with my laptop recognizing files. I just want to study, not deal with roadblocks.
@Doomava
@Doomava 7 лет назад
Don't wait another week to help with flashcards! Please!
@JapaneseInAYear
@JapaneseInAYear 7 лет назад
It'll be up today. :)
@JapaneseInAYear
@JapaneseInAYear 7 лет назад
Voilà: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-23ayYpIgA10.html
@adult456zig
@adult456zig 7 лет назад
Hey I'm trying to learn Chinese (traditional) and this has been really informative. Appreciate ya
@JapaneseInAYear
@JapaneseInAYear 7 лет назад
Sir Etaipo glad to hear it!
@amarijones9746
@amarijones9746 7 лет назад
When the year's over do you plan to continue your studies? Also, do you plan on taking the JLPT, to see how far you've come? 頑張って!
@JapaneseInAYear
@JapaneseInAYear 7 лет назад
Undecided! Regardless, I'll likely continue until I have a comfortable high-intermediate level, because getting to that point in a language makes it much harder to forget. After all this time invested, it's good insurance to make sure I can get it back easily if I ever stop studying. Probably won't take the JLPT, but I do plan to take the J-Cat, at least!
@BH-nk5kr
@BH-nk5kr 7 лет назад
Presumably this approach challenges the ordering to favour learning simpler kanji first (e.g. like the Heisig method). In my learning I've focussed entirely on reading - I've not done any kanji decomposition / mnemonics. This has been successful because often kanji occur in pairs but at the trade off that I can rarely read kanji when they appear on their own. Namely prioritising breadth of vocabulary over specific kanji knowledge, perhaps in a more extreme way than you are. For example I know that 経済 is けいざい but I can't read 経 on its own. As I learn more words I'm starting to discover words that share the same kanji. This means I might incorrectly read 経験 as けいざい or even a word like 怪我. So my approach is approximate but I don't think it significantly hampers comprehension in practice.
@JapaneseInAYear
@JapaneseInAYear 7 лет назад
Yeah, I think that's ok to know the pronunciation of 経済, without knowing the individual kanji pronunciation. I'm not focusing much on memorizing specific readings for individual kanji. Mainly just in context of words. And just with doing that I notice patterns (経済、経験、etc., ... "oh, 経 is usually 'kei',"). Or I can sometimes predict a kanji based on pronunciation/meaning. So, yeah, I think your approach should work.
@BH-nk5kr
@BH-nk5kr 7 лет назад
Japanese In A Year this exact example just came back to bite me in the kanji section of an important test. I'm not claiming that the test is testing the right things, but it does sound like karma after that comment
@silviorossi9661
@silviorossi9661 7 лет назад
Hi man, and nice to meet you, I have just stumbled upon your channel. I am going to start japanese from scratch too... your channel is very interesting, keep up the good work. Sorry for potential mistakes, as English is not my motherlanguage :).
@JapaneseInAYear
@JapaneseInAYear 7 лет назад
Thanks! Good luck with your studies. E non c'è problema, il tuo inglese e' perfetto! :)
@silviorossi9661
@silviorossi9661 7 лет назад
Anche il tuo Italiano non è affatto male O.o, complimenti!
@supernyn
@supernyn 7 лет назад
this is what wanikani does
@TheOrionMusicNetwork
@TheOrionMusicNetwork 7 лет назад
that's what I thought too
@lemonhead2143
@lemonhead2143 7 лет назад
It's a shame that wanikani has the absolute WORST mnemonics. Missed opportunity man. It's like they just did shit on the fly and tried to just force stuff.
@Cetrus
@Cetrus 6 лет назад
That's why you can make your own mnemonics by adding notes to every item. Just because you think that the mnemonics they use doesn't work for you it doesn't have to be a "missed oppurtunity", you just have to think a bit out of the box.
@Andreijkmuyt
@Andreijkmuyt 7 лет назад
Have you tryed Heisig's remembering the kanji? Sorry if you told about that earlyer. You probably had..
@JapaneseInAYear
@JapaneseInAYear 7 лет назад
Andrei I like Heisig's stuff, though I currently prefer the freedom I have with this approach. Making my own mnemonics means I can learn any Kanji, any time (not just in the RTK order), and my own mnemonics usually stick better anyway.
@Andreijkmuyt
@Andreijkmuyt 7 лет назад
Thanks for the answer! Sadly, when it comes to kanji, I can't grant myself such freedom. I wish I could, but RTK seems the only way for me. Thus I can see my progress and my way to go... and that keeps me motivated
@ESRohner
@ESRohner 7 лет назад
Heisig stops giving stories less than half-way through the book anyway. The biggest boon of that book is the general approach it suggests and the order of the kanji. It's unorthodox though because you learn a lot of useless kanji. I made up my own mnemonics all the time while running through that book. Your approach became more similar to the methods I remembered the kanji with one large difference: I remembered all of the general-use kanji before starting any vocabulary or grammar studies.
@tentacleprincess5772
@tentacleprincess5772 7 лет назад
I use Dr.Moku
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