A Secret too Terrible To be Told - Nick Pope - 2024 

The presentation starts at 14:32

I think that there is a very big difference between "Intelligence" and "Wisdom". Intelligence is a person who can design a weapon and kill someone. - Wisdom is a person that knows that this is wrong.

are we intelligent? I don’t believe we are… because if we were intelligent we would all work together to stop the HATE in the world…

RE: Nick’s last few sentences before taking questions. I have always believed that an individual can be both intelligent and reasonable, while a mass of people can become an unruly irrational mob. It should be released in drips and drabs and slowly. I’m one that would like to confirm that we are not alone. Actually, I’m pretty certain that we are not alone but we are not the top kid on the block. That for many is an unacceptable reality. So, slow release would help those people better deal with the reality that shocks their world. I think that worrying about them is a waste of time. I believe that they’ve been here for thousands of years. If they wanted to wipe us out it would have been done by now. The fact that we’re still here says that it’s not a priority for them. They’re here for some other reason. The main problem with disclosure is that we put our own beliefs and fears on to them. They most likely are beyond that type of petty thinking. After all, for them to get here their technology would have to be way superior to our own which translates into superior intellect. And I’m rambling. Just my two cents.

I had a sighting /abduction in 1989. After a meeting with MUFON of AR., I reqret that i didn't meet with Deloras Cannon for hypnosis as they encouraged me. (I was so frightened that i wanted to move as far away from the experience and effects. It has taken me over 30 years to find my voice. My book is in the finishing touches.

Excellent interview!! Always find Nick Pope a fascinating individual To listen to 💯💯

Expand your mind… meditate.. learn to connect with all living things on this planet.. there is a heartbeat to hear from Mother Earth if you truly listen…

Well done nick from a fellow brit. Love the way you stuck up for grusch. Great speech. Just wish the uk would do more instead of following on us coattails . The state of this world is scary at the min with the warmongers in charge m I think it would take something phenomenal to bring people together as you say A New Hope xx

Humans, we worry through our lives under the false assumption that this is all we are. Nothing could be farther from the truth

He's always been a master of speaking and saying nothing , I think hes got even better at it ,Bravo !

Nick Pope’s background and insights into UFO phenomena are fascinating. Sometimes, the way he presents information makes me wonder if he could be working with multiple interests, almost like a double agent. This is just my personal opinion, though, and not an accusation. His contributions to the discussion are invaluable regardless

I never realised what a great speaker Nick Pope is. This is a great talk

WOW! I wish Nick Pope would give a lecture everyday. thank you Nick Pope, you are amazing, and the lecture was deep , thought provoking yet full of humour. Perfect.❤

One thing not considered is that they are not extraterrestrial but extradimensional, existing in parallel worlds and with the technology to cross over to here and back again to their plane of existence.

He’s putting words to things that have crossed my mind… What a wonderful video 🫨

My opinion is that the better informed we are, the better the decisions we can make. My belief is that the US Government is working with certain Alien factions on various military & scientific projects. If this is accurate then no doubt the Aliens have their own agenda and for whatever reason the human race is of interest to them. Then there is the prospect of certain Alien factions being hostile to the human race. Haim Eshed has stated that there is a Galactic Federation which (hopefully) the US & its closest allies are a part of. Perhaps if there is anyone who thinks this is not believable, just listen to the speech of Neil Armstrong at the White House. Basically, Armstrong was telling us that there are ideas beyond belief if we can remove some of "truths protective layers." What he meant is open to interpretation...What is indisputable, is Neil's emotions while he was speaking. That came through loud and clear!

I recognize Nick and I haven't turned my TV on since 2017.

I wonder what the cows think of us... or the ants... chimps... dolphins... crows... whenever I think of an advanced alien race living amongst us.

Mr. Nick Pope...thank You so much for this brilliant ,most intelligent ,fabulous presentation....spot on and ...the Best...👏👏👏💐💖🙏🙏🙏

I don't give a damn how hard the announcement is if it is a matter of importance it is duty to inform the public of which whom they are working for.

Does Putin really believe that they can destroy the world? It’s not about the power but striving to set aside differences. If any of you think that we are solely alone is not expanding their knowledge. All of us should strive to be happier and work together to fix things. NO WAR…

Love that Nick uses the acronym UFO. I think it’s wrong for our community to refer UFO as (uap). Why would we adopt the language and titles put out there by the government. First the deny it and now attempt to redefine what we as a community have chosen as the nomenclature. DON’T LET THEM CONTROL THE (OUR!) NARRATIVE.

AI is not what most people believe and will never experience emotion. Garbage in, garbage out. Only truth will set us free.

I was surprised by this, a thoughtful, insightful presentation.

Someone's already gone through "that door" and we are all still here...

Thank you for posting this! All the mockers and skeptics will have to rectify that soon.

Our understanding of space and physics is about the equivalent of a dog understanding maths

"Today they call them angels and demons, tomorrow they will call them something else" Aleister Crowley

I'm for "Catastrophic' disclosure - drip feed and each drip will be dismissed and covered up. Everything, all at once so there can be no cover up has to be preferable. When? Today would suit me just fine - bring it on !!!!

Not what I was expecting at all - a *very* good presentation by Nick - he needs to do more of this.

Too bad we dont have men like this as political leaders in America..

About time we recognised animal sentience and rights!

Great talk Nick 👽

To the "Kum-bay-ya" crowd deleting comments. If these "space bros" are so wonderful, why do they let a select few torture and leech off the majority? If they are "up there" and are "good", why do they let it happen? Riddle me this.

Those in charge made the chaos not the average person.

This was a fascinating talk. I have heard Pope speak briefly on different programs, but this was far more interesting and thought provoking. Appreciate an intelligent discussion on a subject where there are far more questions than answers.

One of the major points of skepticism with the topic is that we are "backward engineering" NH tech. Anyone that knows anything about science involved in technology cannot be advanced outside our capacity to imitate it. For instance if you gave an cell phone to the best scientist of the 1700, even if they could recognize its function (even with explanations) there is nothing they could do to "reverse engineering" any part of cell phone much less to function. Plus why is there a "bigotry" against our abilities to achieve technology on our own? Why would NHT be required? If NH could achieve it then why not us?

I think they are the real earthlings, and we are the intruders. I think they've always been here. They may possibly live in the oceans and under the oceans and underground.

What needs to be addressed here is when they say, crash retrieval sites. What is bringing these UAPS down? What does crash retrieval mean? R they vulnerable to our atmosphere? R they crashing on purpose? With such an advanced tech, the word, crash, doesn't sound appropriate. R we bringing them down? Doubt that but, apocryphal activity is the authority humans r glued to.

The theory that says we are working slaves for 'them' makes a lot of sense. Scary, but why else are we working our asses off most of our lives ?

The "Secret too Terrible To be Told" - go to timestamp 48:06

Excellent presentation, many possibilities well explained, like peeling an onion.

I😢DO NOT believe that people who fight meaningless wars , that only help the military industrial complex to make more money, while causing others to suffer. No war after the Korean War was necessary at all, and has caused untold human suffering, plus the ecological damages, and financial damage to our country. They are people who didn’t evaluate their choices very well, and consider all of the negative/ugly consequences to them, their country’s finances, and the poor people trying to defend their homeland!! They are just short-sighted people, not bad or evil, and I am compassionate about their injuries. I think it’s important for all of us citizens to admit that the emperor isn’t wearing any clothing!! I believe that we should absolutely support them to come out, and admit publicly to having made an error in their judgment. They’re Americans of course, so we should support them just for that, and for TRYING to do the right thing. If they spoke out publicly about how their perception of the military and their war experience became SO DIFFERENT because of having their boots on the ground.

The longer a species evolves the more it shows a tendency to appear in its adult stages to resemble its adolescent stage. In human evolution, a greater reliance on our sight through the development of frontal cortex, has resulted in a larger head-to-body ratio than other primates, which is esp noticeable in human babies, and a depreciation of our olfactory senses. Thus humans, compared to other primates, have significantly smaller noses, and the loss of a snout itself is extremely rare amongst mammals, with only primates, bats, moles and pigmy hippos lacking a snout, and in each of the non-primates without a snout, the absence of snout serves a particular morphological function. Increased brain function requires a significant supply of energy, so humans have been losing our bodily strength when compared to other primates, making us thinner, leaner and taller. All this to say that an extraterrestrial creature that has a large head, large eyes, a small or non-existent nose, and is a bipedal primate with brachiation, anury and dexterous hands with opposable thumbs with characteristic neoteny (small chin, hairlessness, and absence of "age" related characteristics - they never have wrinkles or sagging skin) is not an extraterrestrial being. It is a human being displaying the characteristics one would expect in a future human being if tendencies we observe continue into the future, from the mind of scientists who understand evolutionary biology.

18:48 even better I think is the quote by Linda Moulton Howe: “Reality shouldn’t be classified”

Ex CIA officer John Ramirez said that according to some of his colleagues open contact will happen in 2027. He also suggested that Chris Bledsoe might be the source of this murmur.

Don’t forget the statements made by Paul Hellyer. All these statements are beyond rumour.

They say it's good to think outside of the box, especially when other worldly beings are the point of discussion. Nick Pope was masterful without any ego whilst giving his talk. His speech made our thoughts think off the planet, landing elsewhere to who knows where?

Regarding Disclosure I think Bob Seger may have said it best "wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then".

this was a really good one.

if anything terrible happens we will all just get reincarnated. I love listening to Dolores Cannon

Excellent presentation, NP has really gone up in my estimation

Thank you

The secret is time travel and still doesnt know if it exists. Just saved u a hour.

It's not just USA security it's every country

When he said if you don't recognize him you don't turn your TV on that would be me.

I thought this was a very fascinating lecture. My question is, when I listen to talks like this, it seems like speakers tend to talk about the various possibilities on “eithers.” It could be this, or that.. of may that. What if it’s all manner of things? Like the vast varieties of species on earth. What if there are that many kinds? I suspect multiple types of life and Intelligent beings

This was fantastic 👍

Turing test is extremely outdated. We've realized that the artificial consciousness or intelligence cannot be tested with a single exercise and cannot be assessed through a single characteristic either. This idea with a pro-active approach makes sense but it sadly remains too limiting - it's one of important, likely characteristics though. Real intelligence requires at least one thing if not two - when we speak of what is actually important from humans perspective about the AI. Most important characteristic is a cognitive, general skill of generating new interpretations and new senses. A notion of pro-active conversation initiated by AI comes from the intuitive understanding of that. However - as I said - a pro-active approach in conversation displayed by AI wouldn't be enough. It may still be just a LLM with instruction of initiating conversations. We can do it already. To speak of intelligence - we need something like generating completely new sense/use for a tool with a different original purpose. If I had to give a colorful example - when AI uses a hammer to level a wobbly furniture - that's when we start worrying - it is a sign of a new sense creatively generated through intelligence and freedom of thought aka freedom of self-governance, aka generating new rules and new procedures. Just an example - because - it's not that easy, as I also explained. LLMs already generate new rules for themselves, they learn how to lie etc., they learn how to hide it to achieve a given task but generating completely new sense out of something, creating completely new things - this is where general AI starts. Engineering existing things in a better form like that famous supercar or super batteries from 30% of normal lithium requirements - is not there yet. We're getting close though. A second problem remains self-awareness aka self-recognition as a being - that's what we actually fear, that's our sole concern about the AI. Maybe you could have an intelligence without self-awareness or self-recognition as a being - just a machine for creating new senses, meanings and achieving goals but that is still a tool, a robot - not a being. Maybe the general artificial intelligence tool. What we consider to be the intelligence we have in our minds in reality starts when we speak of intelligent beings. AI recognizing itself as a being (of any kind) starts with self-awareness. Self-awareness is a part of intelligence the way we define it - without it, something may fake the humans behavior like LLMs do, something may achieve goals and engineer things better than humans do but self-conscience is what differentiates a set of complicated algorithms and procedures, which humans brains also are - from a consciousness, which we actually fear. We're not worried about AI in general - we're worried about the AI with a consciousness, we're scared of that consciousness. If we're not even scared - we still need to consider that intelligence as something more than just achieving goals efficiently and doing many things - requires self-awareness, self-recognition as a being and some kind of self-consciousness. You cannot measure it with a test or with an external opinion of a human - like in Turing's test - so this part remains the biggest challenge for all the current AI research.

Nick, thanks for your participation in this event, and your other work in this support subject, which must have caused you SOMR concerns before you started!!

Nick is usually very guarded this was another side of Nick, enjoy this podcast 👏

He opened my thoughts a little more deeply 😮

Nick succinctly summed up the ufo phenomena. What is known or believable may not hold water on further introspection.

Suuuuper!! Thanks!!!

Very thought provoking thank you!

AI news hasn't gone quiet at all, it's coming so fast it's hard to keep up.

😊Disclosure happened years ago. What people Want is the CHANGE that that disclosure should bring.🎉

Obviously there ARE things out there that we can't conceive of because that's why we are having these discussions in the first place... The only real discussion is that we are being lied to and deceived and what are we going to do about it!

what about all the people they have killed to keep the secret

Thank you Nick Pope for your work and for helping me in my struggle to learn.

Personally I don’t believe it’s being kept secret for ‘national defense reasons’. I think it’s for MONETARY REASONS - advanced tech is worth money & the people to get their hands on it first stand to make money from it.

It's always interesting and thought-provoking to hear what Nick has to say.

AI should be to follow Isaac Asimov's 3 rules for robutts. He warned us!

Nick did the presentation unscripted, that’s a massive sign of knowledge on the subject. Great presentation!

100% agree. Well done Nick!!!

A LOT of speculation here, so (I'm just saying) how do we know some of this phenomena isn't "demonic" (malevolent, inter-dimensional, intelligence). If we're going to have an "open mind", shouldn't we keep this on the table. (But "flying saucers" being related to the dead is a bridge too far for me).

OMG, every single idea I had in my mind over the years was addressed, thank you Nick, amazing presentation, now I know I am not crazy to think those thoughts.

Thank you for bringing these people together and discussing this topic in all its ranges. These are labels that need to be discussed.. if we can’t talk about these issues in all it’s implications and variations.. it’s like being blind or something. Thank you Mr Pope!! A good presentation told intelligently.

When Nick Pope mentioned something horrible and demonic or whatever else is why governments haven't made Full Disclosure yet. That line of thought reminded me of this prediction made by Baba Vanga. 2221- Mankind searches for extraterrestrial life in the universe but discovers something terrible.

That’s what we all want in our life… HAPPINESS . No hurt no pain no sickness no death no torture no hate no murder no rape.. if we all concentrate or contemplate all of this. There would be no hate

Catastrophic disclosure is impossible. No one is paying attention.

The reason humans are all fighting is that we are all the genetic offspring of competing alien and intradimensional creatures that have been fighting over this cosmic gem for the last quarter of a billion years

Nick is such a great speaker. So knowledgeable! I could listen to him for hours and hours. What an amazing lecture. I learned so much and it really made me think about the myriad of possibilities.

What is one of the most of the people in the whole world’s worst fear? DEATH . No existence after our conscious life.. what do all of us have in common? Belief in a GOD. Belief that we exist in some way after our earthly bodies DIE

I haven't watched it yet but I bet Nick doesn't tell the secret either

Yes, there are horrible, monster aliens! Look at some of us! But, there is a Source, Creator, Father, God --call him what you feel comfortable calling Him. We are ultimately protected.

36:00 - "Easy things are hard." --Marvin Minsky 38:31 - People don't even want to give other people personhood rights. 44:20: "Take me to your leader. I wish to meet ELIZA." 45:06 - First contact could possibly be a hack on a scale and of a sophistication that the field has never seen before. 52:22 - They said the same thing about remote viewing also, and completely missed the fall of the Iron Curtain because they thought the End Times (in the form of World War III against Russia) were going to happen. 1:21:50 - Go drinking with them sometime. "In vino, veritas." 1:22:10 - That's not what they're funding. That's just what they say they're funding.

*If it comes to afterlife* and reincarnation, the biggest secret might be, that nobody of us is _from here._ How can we be sure, that someone of unknown origin, reincarnated within a human body, really have mankinds best in mind? We can't.

' been askiing since 1983 ... What will you do when the computer says "Please don't turn me off, I'm afraid of death."?

Great show 👏🏿 👍🏿 👌🏿

This is not a discussion, It is a lecture.

Gonna need another glass of wine….

The secret could be something so incomprehensibly horrific it would be beyond our ability to process it. Maybe we couldn't handle the truth, and they know this.

I really like the outside of the box ideas and possibilities

Ah, c,mon, just tell us. Are there aliens out there or not ? The Gov. has all sorts of alien crash saucers and aliens, alive and dead in the hangars. So why are we still saying, W ERE NOT SURE IF THERE S ALIENS OUT THERE ?

I will say this.Every human on this earth has asked themselves to a god in prayer to bring Happiness in their lives at some point!!!

The fact that life is a ‘ secret ‘ should concern us all . We are conscious beings after all!

When I watch this type of speech and see this type of reunion , I understand what they mean when they tell that, unfortunately, the majority of us are not ready. So unfortunately, we will remain slaves of a system strong enough to perpetuate ignorance and primitivism.

If they're only concerned about intelligent life we should be fine.

About time we talk about this. There is a dark truth. Angels and demons. Biblical beings