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A Sequel Done Right | Banjo-Tooie (Banjo-Kazooie Series Retrospective) 

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In part two of the Banjo-Kazooie retrospective, we continue our journey on the Nintendo 64 with 2000's Banjo-Tooie. This sequel was bigger, darker, and packed with personality, but does it hold up against the fantastic original? And as one of the last Rare video games before the events that changed their history as a video game developer, how did Banjo-Tooie mark the end of an era? #BanjoTooie #BanjoKazooie #RareReplay
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@CloudConnection
@CloudConnection 5 лет назад
Which do you prefer - Banjo-Kazooie or Banjo-Tooie? Are their other video game sequels that you think surpass the original?
@LizardOfOz69
@LizardOfOz69 5 лет назад
I prefer Kazooie, because honestly I'm more of a linear platformer fan, so the bigger the game is, the more bored I get.
@Sophi023
@Sophi023 5 лет назад
I like Kazooie more because it’s easier to play-through but I love Tooie for its world and “upgrades”. But if I had to pick one I’d choose Banjo-Kazooie due to nostalgia ❤️
@cyclops8238
@cyclops8238 5 лет назад
Them innuendos though. I understood seaman's surprise, but I was not prepared for what salty dumplings meant. And to think that they got away with this in a children's game.😀
@PrincipalSkinner3190
@PrincipalSkinner3190 5 лет назад
I prefer Tooie. Found the world more immersive and interactive.
@PER578
@PER578 4 года назад
CloudConnection can u do retrospective on consoles like n64 or gamecube. Also make a video about dk64
@Scrubber89
@Scrubber89 2 года назад
Absolutely crazy to me that "Rare were having their innovation questioned in this era". Banjo-Tooie is one of the most ambitious and innovative games of its time by far and did things that had never been done In the genre before.
@chancemitchell4147
@chancemitchell4147 5 лет назад
Something about Tooie always grabbed me more. Maybe the interconnectivity, the more cynical tone (I love especially Banjo just being over this shit), or maybe the larger levels. Setting up the necessary components to collect a jiggy just feels soooooo satisfying to me. Or backtracking in this game specifically is not even a chore. Someone made the comparison to SOTN (which I love) it Super Metroid (never played) when it comes to backtracking. And it feels the same in SOTN as it does here. Satisfying. Currently replaying the two games in honor of the Ultimate reveal and hoping for a sequel. And nothing has changed. Other than my appreciation for Kaz deepening. Still can’t bring myself to put Kaz over Tooie, though.
@CloudConnection
@CloudConnection 5 лет назад
I couldn't agree more! The interconnectivity especially appeals to me after all these years. And my appreciation for Kazooie has increased over the years as well, especially after playing it for this retrospective series. But yeah, I still love Tooie more.
@BareBandSubscription
@BareBandSubscription 3 года назад
You’re on the money with the Metroid/SOTN comparison. That’s what I’ve been saying for years, is that Tooie is a 3D platformer/collect-a-thon incorporating a Metroidvania-esque structure. It’s really unique and really fun in that way, and I wish more people recognized this. Complaining about backtracking in this game seems so strange, since you don’t really _have to_ backtrack to beat the game, and because it’s implemented in a manner that consistently feels rewarding. To me, despite leaning just a bit too much into gimmickry at times (a common trait of Rare games back in the day, all for the sake of variety and inventiveness), Tooie is easily better than Kazooie, and it’s the giant, interconnected world, constant move expansion, and resulting backtracking that makes this game stand out amongst other platformers of the era, and helps make it more interesting and well-aged than Kazooie (that, and the crazy variety, boss fights, writing, and presentation).
@ShadyPKay
@ShadyPKay 3 года назад
(Year late reply I know) but another thing I enjoyed about how connected and large the worlds were, it just somehow felt so satisfying to explore the world. Like the whole world was jam packed with all kinds of secrets and nooks and crannies and how it was all connected. It just feels so exciting to scour the entire world and levels, going back and forth and finding new areas...It was more cool to go back and find out how to get in an area you couldn't before, it just felt so immersive in a sense.
@JuiceboxCE
@JuiceboxCE 3 года назад
This game was so delightful for me, and I think it had everything to do with me playing through Rayman 2 The Great Escape. That game did what this game did, which was building an AMAZING aesthetic through dire fantasy. The machines and factory settings all looked borderline scary and depressing, and that was so COOL when presented in a fantasy setting. Playing through both games never feels like a chore as a result, the character designs and sound/music choice make it an untapped experience modern day
@jjthecat9692
@jjthecat9692 3 года назад
I prefer the first game overall but I did love the darker tone and twisted humour in the second one. There were multiple occasions where I audibly laughed out loud.
@vinnyyxy
@vinnyyxy 5 лет назад
FINALLY a review that favors Tooie instead of Kazooie. I played tooie first as well so yea maybe there’s some bias to it but still... lol
@Laughy-Flaaffy
@Laughy-Flaaffy 3 года назад
I never understood why so many people disliked Tooie. It just seems like it offers so much more than the first game.
@jjopification
@jjopification 3 года назад
I played Kazooie first and personally, I also prefer Tooie. The world is expanded in such a smart way and feels more alive through these many characters. Plus graphic & control improvements. But when I want to introduce somebody to the series (or recommend a game), I'd go with Kazooie. Tooie can be very confusing at times and I enjoy it more because I know how to proceed in this game, but a new player might be frustrated by its design.
@saicams
@saicams 3 года назад
Honestly Tooie is far superior to me
@JakobeOG
@JakobeOG 2 года назад
Tooie is way better. I also played tooie first lol
@panampace
@panampace 2 года назад
Tooie is better if you prefer the adventure side of an adventure platformer, and Kazooie is better if you prefer the platforming side
@Wolfkaosaun
@Wolfkaosaun 5 лет назад
Banjo-Tooie is an amazing sequel. Sure, in the beginning I was a little "meh" on how big the worlds were, but overall I loved being able to do so much stuff. Plus fast travel was a nice touch.
@CloudConnection
@CloudConnection 5 лет назад
Yeah, without the fast travel, I definitepy wouldn't find the larger worlds as fun as I do.
@galegopaulista4564
@galegopaulista4564 4 года назад
Banjo-Kazooie also has fast travel, with the hidden cauldrons, and the problem isn't that the worlds are big, but that most can be pretty boring, or just look the same, y'know, sometimes there's no recognisable landmarks, something that the original had everywhere, which makes tooie's worlds harder to explore and to go from place to place. But the game is still fun, I just prefer the original. (also, in the second, the worlds actually affect each other, which is nice)
@MadSociety-uy6zg
@MadSociety-uy6zg 3 года назад
@@galegopaulista4564 banjo kazooie fast travel was terrible hard to find a lot of the caldrons and have to find the same color caldron to fast travel I don't know how banjo tooie worlds are boring? I got all but one jiggy that's the last race against the bird guy thing lol
@BigBossMan538
@BigBossMan538 Год назад
I played Tooie before Kazooie as a kid so I’m used to its quirks. Honestly, I don’t mind backtracking and combing worlds for items. I enjoy it a lot, though I do have my “Where’s that last item?!” moment sometimes with any collectathon lol
@CrimzinEclipse2010
@CrimzinEclipse2010 Год назад
The fact that each level connects with others, and you can’t fully get all jiggies of any one area without doing something in a different level, just gives this rich sense of a real connected world in Tooie. It was by far one of my favorite things about it.
@Ratschtieu
@Ratschtieu 3 года назад
This makes me so happy to see someone finally appreciate this game and not despise it for not being exactly the same as the first
@SchmergDergen
@SchmergDergen Год назад
That’s not why people despise it. Kazooie you can beat almost every world in one go, Tooie is pretty damn bloated and this is coming from someone who prefers Tooie.
@Ratschtieu
@Ratschtieu Год назад
@@SchmergDergen :(
@rawman44
@rawman44 Год назад
@@SchmergDergen being able to fully complete a world isn't something that's inherently good or bad, it's just a design element. Backtracking is not a bad thing, it just gets implemented poorly most of the time. I would definitely say Tooie does it right. The size of the game in my opinion is one of its strengths, because they put in the time, care, and attention that it needed. Unlike Yooka-Laylee, where they went big but didn't put in the necessary effort that the game demanded. In many ways, when people complain about BT, pretty much what they say can accurately be applied to YL and not so much to BT. I don't really think BK or BT are better than one or the other, I think they both did different things but did them all extremely well.
@kommisar.
@kommisar. Год назад
@@SchmergDergen I liked the backtracking in the game. I liked seeing a little puzzle in one world, whether it was Jiggy, some area or especially a Jamjars silo I couldn't access, and then being able to figure it out later. I can't remember how I handled them when I originally played this game as a kid, but I can say when I replayed it many years later as an adult, I did probably beat my head against the wall a little, thinking I should have been able to access those things when really I just hadn't progressed enough in the game. (For example, I kept thinking I should have been able to move the sick bear in Witchy World, not knowing I needed to learn the Taxi Pack move. Wasted a lot of time messing with it, but that's just part of the game to make you want to keep playing it.) It was still fun though, and a great new feature in the game. It was neat to see how it tied all the worlds together.
@FromHerotoZeroYT
@FromHerotoZeroYT 5 лет назад
I went from Tooie to Kazooie too! Going from the fast Kazooie roll to the slow Banjo roll really put me off of playing the first game for some reason. It always fascinated me how there are SO many more moves in Tooie when every single move from Kazooie carries over
@CloudConnection
@CloudConnection 5 лет назад
Yeah, the Kazooie roll is definitely something you need to get used to after playing Tooie for so long. It doesn't bother me anymore but it was absolutely jarring when I first played Kazooie.
@kommisar.
@kommisar. Год назад
@@CloudConnection I've played both games more than once, and I've never noticed this. Same with Banjo walking faster. Now I'll have to pay attention to see.
@frosted_glaceon5513
@frosted_glaceon5513 Год назад
I remember I beat Tooie before Kazooie as a kid. Tooie's boss battle against Grunty was actually the very first video I ever watched on RU-vid.
@circleception3916
@circleception3916 2 года назад
I’ve always liked the back tracking in this game, it feels like a game instead of a bunch of individual levels
@tgoodjenkins
@tgoodjenkins 2 года назад
I always say it's not often a game that good comes out, then has an even better sequel. But we were blessed. My favorite N64 games
@zacharycardon2353
@zacharycardon2353 Год назад
Banjo-Tooie is my #1 game of all time and is why I fight for collectathon platformers beyond my dying day! I don't think there was ever an overflow of 3D platformers in the late 90's but rather too many people assuming they all played the same and didn't quite yet distinguish linear from non-linear gameplay.
@aceventuraify
@aceventuraify 3 года назад
I enjoyed backtracking, it made some of those moves so exciting to acquire because it’s like”now I can finally go back to that previous world and do that thing I wanted to do”!
@Boccaccio1811
@Boccaccio1811 3 года назад
Yeah, that's a feature I always liked in these games... seeing an area you can't access which adds a little mystery to the game, then the feeling of excitement when you finally unlock it
@ScootLoops616
@ScootLoops616 3 года назад
Gruntyland was my favorite but so hard for me as a kid. I remember coming home from school and running around that level for hours, id be happy if I found atleaat 1 more jiggy. Tooie and DK64 held a lot of wonder and mystery for me that could easily be googled now a days.
@Levacque
@Levacque Год назад
Remember renting these story-heavy adventure games? And you have this ticking clock where you know you won't finish it by the end of the week, and there's a wait list and you just know the next person is gonna erase your save file.
@alvareo92
@alvareo92 Год назад
@@Levacque It was cool when you rented a game and enjoyed it a lot and then never played it again (or for a long time) and it remained as a memory of "the one that got away"...
@organicketchup5171
@organicketchup5171 Год назад
I think it depends on which game you played more of as a kid. I like both games but I played a lot more of BT and I loved it then and still consider it a favourite. The thick atmosphere and the vaguely dark, cartoon world was a huge inspiration.
@RoyMack06
@RoyMack06 Год назад
i honestly prefer tooie to kazooie
@Oscwal
@Oscwal 4 месяца назад
Same
@catlunatic2122
@catlunatic2122 2 месяца назад
Same
@basicoptimalmouse
@basicoptimalmouse 7 месяцев назад
With the Canary Mary races, just press A fast enough to stay slightly ahead. Her speed seems to be linked to your speed so going berko the whole way just makes her faster. Save the mashing until the final stretch.
@superpacbrosspb2490
@superpacbrosspb2490 5 лет назад
I saw this video in my recommended and, since I’m playing through Tooie for the first time at the moment, decided to watch it. How do you not have more subscribers? This video was amazing. It was well written and had great editing. You’ve earned a subscriber!
@TheDeathOfLucifer
@TheDeathOfLucifer 4 года назад
So you hate this game?
@bryandacote8109
@bryandacote8109 3 года назад
I LOVE the use that old commercial in the beginning. I loved that commercial as a kid.
@guyedwards22
@guyedwards22 Год назад
I know you said that the distribution of the jinjos was randomly selected from 33 presets, but I got curious and wondered how many unique arrangements are possible if you consider jinjos of the same color unordered and identical. There are 45 jinjos in total, summing the ascending family count from 1 to 9, so 45 positions are available. Start with calculating how many arrangements of the 9-membered color there are across all 45 positions. That's 45 choose 9, or nCr(45, 9) in a calculator. Now calculate the same number for the 8-membered color, accounting for the fact that 9 positions are now occupied, so 36 choose 8. Repeat this procedure until you're down to 3 choose 2 and multiply your nCr numbers together. The result is actually stunningly huge: 65191584694745586153436251091200000 unique jinjo distributions in Banjo Tooie
@frosted_glaceon5513
@frosted_glaceon5513 2 года назад
I like the first person sections, but when they slap a timer on screen it's easy to get lost, and you panic and just wander around desperately searching for that last fricking dynamite stick. They're fun, but only the first one is actually satisfying to beat, especially since it leads to an interesting boss fight. I like Tooie a bit more than Kazooie as well. I remember I would look through the strategy guide for a long time, and finally I found enough notes and got Kazooie's glide move for the first time. I loved to go around with just Kazooie, gliding everywhere and flying and exploring with the infinite feathers cheat on. So many memories and treasures. And dragon Kazooie. 👌
@NP-gb5su
@NP-gb5su Год назад
The people who designed this complex game are so smart, Ive just completed another Banjo Tooie run and it amazes me each time
@BruteWarChieftan
@BruteWarChieftan 3 года назад
I played Kazooie first and it was always my favorite until a recent playthrough. Idk, I think the atmosphere and characters in Tooie made me change my mind. And the music. Like, when you're fighting Lord Woo Fak Fak deep under the sea in Davy Jones's locker, the music gives you the impression you are fighting an elegant creature as old as time. Navigating a dark and flooded cavern ("Yee-haw. . .Oh!"), Saving aliens twice, getting eaten by a giant dinosuar to essentially act as a laxative, geneociding a caveman tribe with explosives, solving puzzles in gothic colisseum ruins, buzzing around looking for eyeball plants in the sky. It's all so very charming. Yeah, those games had style.
@downhillracers
@downhillracers 3 года назад
hell yeah
@Smouv
@Smouv 3 года назад
Honestly don't understand the hatred Grunty Industries get. It's my favourite level in the entire series, and in all the ways Tooie set out to be different from Kazooie, this level brought those differences home in the absolutely most rewarding and cohesive way
@TexKimball
@TexKimball 2 года назад
Yes thank you haha, of all my friends who like Banjo, all of them absolutely hate Grunty Industries, yet it's in my top 3. You nailed it though, between all of the floors, closed off sections, hidden passageways, machinery, etc it rewarded a player's attention to detail. It's the first level I think of when I think of Tooie.
@TheAngriestReptileAlive
@TheAngriestReptileAlive 5 месяцев назад
A lot of people did not like all the micromanaging and how you had to explore it inside out and around kind of like the water temple in ocarina of time but flavor wise it was cool
@benamisai-kham5892
@benamisai-kham5892 Год назад
I remember first borrowing this game from my friend, we would swap N64 games for a week or so since I didn't have some that she had and she didn't have some that I had; banjo tooie felt so magical and amazing to me, I bought 3 copies of banjo kazooie and one copy of tooie (I wanted more lol) as soon as I could. I'm hoping to get to play tooie again soon because it's genuinely such a fun game to explore, I miss trying so hard to figure out the game on my own and every once in a while printing out gamefaq guides or writing down gruntys secrets in a notebook, it's such a lost time
@GabrielShakkori
@GabrielShakkori 2 года назад
So happy I found your channel man! I've been going through and watching them all.
@Hilljoona
@Hilljoona 2 года назад
Wow, that's a great video, man. The best about a game that so many players have forgotten.
@DrillToPierceTheHeavens
@DrillToPierceTheHeavens Месяц назад
You missed one. They also made the potions in the klungo fights go in order from red, green then blue instead of just random.
@ShadowLink38
@ShadowLink38 13 дней назад
I love Banjo-Tooie, played it countless times when I was younger and, like you, played Banjo-Kazooie many years after playing the sequal. BK is a much tighter game with very little bloat; BT is much more expansive and I love just how much there is, but it has some rough edges (looking at you aerial/underwater aiming...) and a little too much bloat to fill the much larger world. All of that said, BT is very dear to me and is not inferior to the first game, but I understand why BK is overall preferred. I've evidently come right after you moved channels but I'm glad these are still here.
@2DSM2
@2DSM2 3 года назад
Played kazooie first, but liked tooie way more. The interconnectivity helped a lot in this game and helped it feel more organic. Also the soundtrack is amazing. I also noticed you use the stomp in air to get to higher platforms. Did you try speedrunning this?
@DragonSoulSC
@DragonSoulSC 3 года назад
I think i've just found a hidden gem in youtube, your videos are well made and entertaining, i hope you keep making content you good sir.
@SirCalalot
@SirCalalot 3 года назад
09:50 - I'm playing Tooie through again on the N64 at the moment and I was doing this section last night (Grunty Industries Crusher) and it was no where near as dark as the footage you have here. In fact the lighting balance has been spot on throughout my play. Maybe the off balanced gamma is a result of emulating an analogue console for digital output... On another note - the dev's actually do a cool trick on the N64 when the frame-rate dips where the game speeds up character animations and movement to adjust, so it's not as unplayable as you might think.
@canman87
@canman87 Год назад
I think the biggest consideration for me when it comes to this game is that it ran absolutely terrible when it came out on the 64 and I think that has to be taken into account when doing a retrospective (and to be fair, you did briefly touch on that fact). That's one of the main reasons why I still prefer Kazooie, at least strictly when we're talking about the 64 versions. Tooie just pushes the 64 hardware to the absolute limit and in a lot of cases I think that detracts from the overall experience; at least for me, anyway. When it was made available to play on 360, Tooie really grew into the game that it deserved to be from the get-go. I still like Kazooie more, but that doesn't take anything away from Tooie 🙂
@JoelJoel321
@JoelJoel321 Год назад
No mention of the pirate who said a bear who looks like Banjo stole his glory? Dream cabcellation reference!
@Phillylove100
@Phillylove100 2 года назад
I don’t think collectathons ever disappeared. I think they just evolved into open world games.
@dougxvale
@dougxvale 2 года назад
31:14 yeah but the player NEEDS to defeat Old King Coal in order to advance in the game to use Chuffy the train and reach the final boss
@naruto53353
@naruto53353 4 года назад
Thanks bro really well done with the video
@JoeMudd
@JoeMudd 5 лет назад
13:08 Holy shit, I did NOT know about those icicles! :O
@therealseanw.stewart2071
@therealseanw.stewart2071 3 года назад
Banjo-Tooie is amazing!! I completed it for the very first time a couple of years ago. I must say, it makes the first one look rather quaint, and I was surprised at how much more expansive, darker and at times, creepier it was as well. This definitely became one of my favorite N64 games, and after the announcement that we're getting Kazooie on Nintendo Switch Online's upcoming N64 service, I really hope we get this one later on too.
@joshuagodfrey644
@joshuagodfrey644 2 года назад
I heard tooie is coming to the switch online in July.
@RealisticKinito
@RealisticKinito 2 месяца назад
5:25 "Good question! You're not getting an answer." In all seriousness, it seems like Tooty doesnt actually live with her older brother Banjo as shown in the first cutscene of Bajo-Kazooie. This means that she either has a place of her own (unlikely since she's a little girl), or she lives with friends or family members. Which also begs the question: where and who? Who and where the heck are their parents and why does it seem like they just dont exist-
@Afreshio
@Afreshio 3 года назад
I'll admit Tooie is a more rounded game, well made and expanded than B-K. It's a great sequel in a world where sequels are generally trash. Still, B-K has a special place in my heart because it was my third N64 game. First one was Super Mario, of course. It came with the console. And maybe two years later it was Ocarina of Time. I only got like 4 games (the last being Castlevania) because I wasn't exactly born rich, and my mom (god know I can only begin to wonder what did she sacrificed) did everything she could and save money to bring her only child joy and preserve my innocence. I shouldn't have got a N64 or -any console for the matter- living in the conditions we lived back then. Like I said, we weren't exactly rich. But my family always made sure to bring us a better life than they got growing up. Now as a 29 yeard old, living in another country, some of my relatives dead, I can only consider myself lucky for my upbringing and be deeply grateful. I can still relive the moment when I was like 9-10 years old, replaying the shit out of OoT and (me unknowingly) my family gathered in the kitchen. Then I heard my name screamed, that shit spooks me and I -begrudginly- dragged my feet to them. Right there, surrounding the kitchen table, was all of them reunited (which wasn't that weird considering that I lived in a multimaly home, together with my grandparents, auntie, uncle. And of course my mom. The other person that lived with me and was somewhat a similar in age was my little cousin, which was 2 years younger than me only child (like me) of my beloved aunt. So all the adults being there in the kitchen, and commonly cracking jokes at each other was a normal occurence to me. At that time a guy 3 or 4 years older than me was living there (he lived with of for maybe a year?) and was like a temporary older brother. So, having the adults reunited was pretty standard. What was not normal were the look and dead silence when I arrived. I thought I was into some deep shit because the mood was serious. I distinctly remember my granpa (RIP) looking me with amusing intelligence and graveness. My mom was giving me some mysterious glance vibe. The poor hamsters inside my head was wheeling like a motherfucker because I was trying to remember what the fuck did I do wrong and how to spin the inminent accusations. But when they started talking about me getting good grades and shit, and I was like "WTF?". I could not for the life of me process the information that they were trying to communicate. What my brain only understood was when my mom revealed the beautiful game box and BAM. My priman brain picked up everything at once. BTW If one of you guys grew up in the 90s you know how a good box with top-tier printing with vivid colors made you feel as a kid. It was less ubiquitous that type of packaging and presentation. It felt premium, special, even magical. So I lost my shit. I grabbed that tiny transparent envelope that covered the box, rip it out and started running toward my little cousin and a friend that was staying at my home for family issues. I screamed out of my lungs something like "I GOT A NEW GAMEE, ITS BANJOO, ITS BANJO" (because back then the reputation of the game was very positive in word of mouth and street cred wise) But the funny part is that I kept dangling that transparent envelope like a moron, like it was a proof of something. My cousin and mate almost broke the door when they came out looking absolutely dazzled, and becoming even more confused when they looked at my twiggling arm grabbing that tiny piece of transparent plastic, and me grinning like the motherfucker dumb kid I was. When I understood that they believe me but at the same time they were frozen right there because I was acting like a batshit crazy person, I quickly ran back to the kitchen where all my relatives were laughing they ass off. Shit some of them were crying for laughing so much. I was slighly embarrased but my mind was only prioritizing the great happening of a NEW GAME. Everything this happened, I knew it how to appreciate it. And I cherish those memories now with great care. When I returned with my guys and they saw the game, they eyes grew bigger and their screams made company with my own loud howling. We embraced and started jumping like cheerleaders. It was hilarious. And then we started the game and the rest is history. I can't put Tooie above B-K for obvious reasons. Its too much nostalgia. Nostalgia that my brain can't override. Tooie is an enhanced game in most ways, better designed, more content, etc. But emotion is emotion. Specially now that I live in another country, separated from them, stranged from some relatives, granpa dead, grandma too old and with a feet on the grave, the country in shambles, covid dangling on them (all old now, my mom is the younger of them and she is almos 50 now), death creeping closer and closer each passing year... All I have of them is the memories of the good times that will never come back. N64 was my life back then. I am a big Nintendo fan for that reason: Mario, Rare games and my beloved Zelda franchise. Years later I got my Psx one, the slim version and pirated the games, which made them less important. Still enjoyed the shit of some of the gems that I could put my hands into. Great memories. Magic was real back then.
@panampace
@panampace 2 года назад
Grunty industries was my favorite world as a kid. I love metroidvanias so I love navigating complex levels
@porky1118
@porky1118 2 года назад
14:15 No, you need to properly lean this move. Remember multiplayer? This makes me want to play it again.
@avengah
@avengah 2 года назад
The Breegull Bash is actually one of the most powerful moves, and it doesn't need to be completely accurate either. You can bash the ground in front of an enemy and still kill it. (Yes, it kills pretty much every regular enemy in a single hit.)
@troyami
@troyami 4 года назад
Bro Banjo Tooie feels so much different
@joshuaridgway3230
@joshuaridgway3230 Год назад
I will say you are required to beat Old King Coal since you him need access to Chuffy in order to access Grunty Industries.
@SpongeyClips
@SpongeyClips Год назад
Yes, and to get to the Cauldron Keep you need Claw Clamber Boots which are learned in Grunty's Industries
@joshuaridgway3230
@joshuaridgway3230 Год назад
@@SpongeyClips Given some glitching and wonky geometry it is possible to get around that, but clearly he was talking about beating the game as intended here.
@SpongeyClips
@SpongeyClips Год назад
@@joshuaridgway3230 yes, I've seen somebody shoot a clockwork egg through the back door of Grunty's Industries to get in
@alfredogxr8891
@alfredogxr8891 3 года назад
Tooie is fantastic but I prefer Kazooie for their colorful and vibrant worlds. Here Makes me felt the worlds more gray and sad. I was expecting the same vibrant worlds but bigger.
@takethesquid
@takethesquid 3 года назад
I loved both games back in the day on N64. I only rented and best BK, but owned Tooie. I got all of the stop and swap rewards in the N64 that this video mentioned, no idea how that works without the actual swap of the first cartridge. I remember finding this to be a cryptic and seemingly incomplete part of such an otherwise simple game My only criticism of these games is that just like Zelda games, once you finish the story there isn't much to do other than starting over, but Tooie fixes that with multiplayer And taking of multiplayer, this video was so focused on dismissing the multiplayer FPS as a Golden Eye knockoff that it completely missed the character selection and their differences in this mode, like the slow tanks gruntilda, and the short but fast jinjo with almost no health. They all had their own birds too. The maps had hidden shortcuts and powerups, but most importantly and fun of all, a 6th type of egg unique to this mode: Remote Mine Eggs. They looked mechanical, worked as proximity mines, could stick to any surface, and became semi transparent some time after sticking to a surface. This egg alone provided hours and hours of fun. Add to that the clockwork egg, and you could play some rather elaborate traps in your opponent
@jamesbrincefield9879
@jamesbrincefield9879 3 года назад
As a huge fan of Doom and Duke Nukem, I personally loved the FPS parts of this game as a kid. I haven’t replayed it in like 10+ years but I remember enjoying it the last time too and thought it held up fine.
@porky1118
@porky1118 2 года назад
34:00 The German translations are better. The Ice dragon is called "Erik Eis" and the fire dragon is called "Erich Eiss" if I remember correctly.
@JackReacts
@JackReacts Год назад
I get your logic with the cheato pieces but see it like this, you can't get the honey back cheat until at earliest terrydactyland and that's pretending that a bunch of them aren't back tracking, so more realistically hailfire peaks. It is an in game reward for going out of your way to get almost all the cheato pages, it's a tricky reward that's given by the game itself for going out of your way, I don't mind taking it
@quizlaire
@quizlaire Год назад
Personally, I love playing this game on N64 with cheats. Fast banjo cheat alone ramps up the fun of this game tenfold, I don't need anything else. Apparently if you use the secret cheats in the Xbox version, you won't be able to save the game? That's really unfortunate, hopefully the game will come to nintendo switch online, I would love to play it on an HD TV.
@ricosalvaje5802
@ricosalvaje5802 2 года назад
Played and beat Tooie back in 2000,2001 never played the original until the switch release and I have to say that it's a really good game and holds up very well.
@callowguru2611
@callowguru2611 Год назад
Start of the video: I disagree with your choice of better game, but I'm delighted to dig into this video and hear your thoughts. I have always thought the hate around this game was overblown. Also before watching: I've always felt Banjo-Tooie was more of a follow-up to DK64 than Kazooie. Controlling 5 separate characters (Banjo-Kazooie, Banjo, Kazooie, Mumbo, Transformation) and gathering items that they can generally only gather on their own, but with lots of overlap feels like a natural evolution over DK64.
@youngtoonfish6891
@youngtoonfish6891 3 года назад
Always been more of a Tooie fan ❤️ Rare took an already great game and made it even better 😄 No bias here, as I played Kazooie before Tooie 😅 I never minded the backtracking and the interconnectivity between worlds. It’s what makes this game so unique. It feels so alive and like a genuine world and not like isolated levels like in the first. I mean, just look at the world map, it is an actual world.
@TheLazysketcher
@TheLazysketcher Год назад
Banjo Tooie is one of those very rare (Heh) games that i can play through, from beginning to end, and not get bored/tired a single time! I just dont get why so many people never mention it, whilst praising Banjo Kazooie to no end! I still remember the first time i played this game, and just being amazed at how fluently Banjo moved.
@tobysgamingworld1550
@tobysgamingworld1550 9 месяцев назад
39:29 saves child 39:30 *blows up child with mind* 39:33 My ucking child!
@Quenteeth_Taranteetho
@Quenteeth_Taranteetho 2 года назад
Kazooie getting turned into a dragon is the best part and you didn't mention it):
@CloudConnection
@CloudConnection 2 года назад
Did I seriously forget to mention Dragon Kazooie? I haven't watched this video in a while - that's a huge oversight on my part. Wish I was more attentive in 2019 haha
@Quenteeth_Taranteetho
@Quenteeth_Taranteetho 2 года назад
@@CloudConnection it's all good! I just wanted to say something about it. Amazing series on the game either way! This was my favorite series growing up too Im glad you show it the appreciation it deserves! ☺️
@gabrielvillanuevaruiz4760
@gabrielvillanuevaruiz4760 Год назад
Stop and swap 2 is used for banjo nuts and bolts
@jimdotbeep
@jimdotbeep 2 года назад
There *are* other gaming critics that defend backtracking. Jim Sterling probably being the biggest (no pun intended).
@Flowerz__
@Flowerz__ Год назад
I loved witchie world as a kid
@Boccaccio1811
@Boccaccio1811 3 года назад
I like Tooie better... I think it's just a matter of preference tho. Kazooie is better for casual gamers since it's a shorter and simpler game. Tooie has a bigger learning curve because of it's size and complexity which might get frustrating, but if you're like me and want a challenge, then it's the more rewarding game in my opinion
@Bendyrulz
@Bendyrulz 3 года назад
I can’t remember if it was explained in game, but why did BOB reverse Bottles’ death? It wasn’t the thing that killed him
@edgyintellect177
@edgyintellect177 3 года назад
I love collectathons
@Laughy-Flaaffy
@Laughy-Flaaffy 3 года назад
You should do a video on the possibility of a third game. I heard they could be working on it
@Saltyoven
@Saltyoven Год назад
Every single person who says Kazooie is better specifically because it's more fun to 100% completely fail to understand that 3d collectathon platformers were never meant to be 100%ed as the main appeal. How many people 100%ed Super Mario Odyssey? The whole point of a collectathon is to give you different ways to get to the final boss without feeling the need to get everything.
@chriscross9360
@chriscross9360 3 года назад
To the part with the levels... My opinion‘s that the game played like a openworld-Game with different sections 😊😊😊
@Yoshinator
@Yoshinator 3 года назад
It's almost weird watching a video talk very positively about Tooie over Kazooie, but I kind of feel the same as well. The first game is great because you can just play it and get a nice solid adventure, you can beat in a sitting or two. But with Tooie, it's much more than that, very grand and huge. I cannot stand Metroidvanias as I hate the backtracking but I dunno, with Tooie I can't explain it but it doesn't bother me here. Good video nonetheless.
@hellsingfan89
@hellsingfan89 Год назад
Old video randomly in my recommendations. Kazooie was a better game for me because it was more focused than tooie. Tooie is a sequel with a lot more content but feels bloated while a lot of the areas feel too large and empty. I see why you like it but I like the first more because I hated a lot of tooie's mini games. I can get all the stuff in kazooie while I will give up on tooie. One gives me a sense of accomplishment while the other makes me give up. Not that I dislike or hate tooie I just like kazooie especially in tone more. Both games are my N64 favorites along with Majora's Mask being my top 3.
@Phillylove100
@Phillylove100 2 года назад
I’m kinda disappointed that you never mentioned how unbelievably lame it was to wait for 10 years for stop and swop to finally be implemented and the reward is a fucking picture, a new background theme, and a troll. It was so ridiculously low effort and lazy for something fans had waited a decade for. Mingella and blobelda’s lair was going to be a whole level with ten jiggies and some jinjos (that’s why one of the jinjo houses was destroyed) and then there was bottle’s minion game mode both of these were cut for time in the original game. They should’ve completed both for the remaster and put any damn effort into stop and swop. Imagine how amazing that would’ve been. I’m certain old rare would’ve done that given the opportunity.
@09jesusm
@09jesusm 3 года назад
Has a kid, This game scare the 💩 out of me😂
@Notbrakes245
@Notbrakes245 4 года назад
Banjo-Tooie: Bottles fucking dies.
@mr.fearingtoon3549
@mr.fearingtoon3549 3 года назад
Yeah that pretty much sums it up.
@shawnthetaco10
@shawnthetaco10 Год назад
No lie the zombified King Jingaling absolutely SHOOK me as a kid. I never really even started the game that shit scared me so bad I couldn't come back 😂
@Skellotronix
@Skellotronix 4 года назад
Biggest things I noticed from BK to BT that you didn't mention, the camera is vastly improved and can be used while flying and underwater, and underwater controls themselves are also massively improved. 👍
@ILiveForAiur1111
@ILiveForAiur1111 Год назад
L
@ILiveForAiur1111
@ILiveForAiur1111 Год назад
O
@ronnieradon
@ronnieradon Год назад
They really fucked up inverting torpedo controls tho XD
@KaineHero
@KaineHero 4 года назад
Good god, that opening. Incredible. I never knew Banjo could be so philosophical.
@darreylhenderson702
@darreylhenderson702 3 года назад
Except he referred to Kazooie as a Him, when Kazooie is actually a her
@deltadaddy94
@deltadaddy94 3 года назад
Alright settle down, son. It’s just a game.
@TheWoofND
@TheWoofND 3 года назад
@@darreylhenderson702 you do know banjo was talking about Mumbo.
@justafan9206
@justafan9206 2 года назад
@@TheWoofND holdup. ...oh right, ulb "remember son dying is gay" joke.
@Fightclubfgc89
@Fightclubfgc89 Год назад
lmao
@NoLongerNeedThis
@NoLongerNeedThis 3 года назад
Tooie took so long to come out after Kazooie that I thought the game was cancelled when I was a kid. Imagine my surprise when me, my dad, and my brother saw a copy lying on the shelf at a Wal-Mart while grocery shopping. We got it immediately, and luckily just in time, as it was the last copy they had. I was so excited that after 2 long years of waiting, I finally got to see Banjo and Kazooie in a new game. Every single thing I experienced and how interconnected it seemed with the last game blew my mind. I mean, Bottles is flat out murdered in the first few minutes? You start with all the moves from the last game, and get a ton more? I knew right off the bat that I was in for something really ambitious. The puzzles were really hard for my tiny 8 year old brain to grasp, but I kept exploring around and figuring things out. Easily the most satisfying moment in the game was me figuring out how to get into Grunty Industries. I couldn't find an entrance for the life of me, but I did find a switch for the train station. I didn't think much of it though, and just kept looking, until I started to put the pieces together in my mind. A thought occured to me that I could enter through the station. "No, it couldn't be." I kept thinking to myself. But I tried it to see what would happen, thinking there was no way that would work. And yet, it did. I felt so smart figuring it out on my own, so proud of myself. I will never forget the memories I had with this game.
@alvareo92
@alvareo92 Год назад
"I will never forget the memories I had with this game" same here! I also was 8 when I started playing Tooie, I played Kazooie before that but not much since it was too hard for me as a little kid. But the memories from Tooie, oh man, such an amazing game full of wonder, perfect for a kid, I'm so glad I had the fortune to play it at such a young age!
@Zaiqahal
@Zaiqahal Год назад
I mean, 2 years is kind of the standard to wait for a sequel.
@kommisar.
@kommisar. Год назад
It's almost crazy how we were able to figure out all those things without the advantage of the internet.
@HexenDarkside
@HexenDarkside 3 года назад
Refreshing to see someone share my opinion. Most RU-vid videos are always "Here's how Banjo-Tooie is worse!" and it always annoyed me. Banjo-tooie is just a complex puzzle box finding how everything connects together, and it's really disheartening that there will probably never be another collect-athon like it when i feel it was an evolution of the formula. I've only ever done 100% on Banjo-Kazooie once, but I've done Tooie maybe 5 or 6 times in my life. It's been my favorite collect-athon forever and was never even challenged until Odyssey came out. I love it and I'm glad you appreciate it as well.
@martinandrade1482
@martinandrade1482 3 года назад
Everytime I play Odyssey, I think about how it's almost as good as tooie, but not quite
@downhillracers
@downhillracers 3 года назад
I know what you mean. It really was an evolution and ahead of its time, and never got the attention it deserved. I wish more games took cues from Tooie.
@revel3314
@revel3314 5 лет назад
"Where is Banjos sister Tootie? That's a good question." "Where's Gruntys sister Brentilda? That's a good question." Asking questions without definitive answers? That sir, is humor I like.
@grantmortensonva
@grantmortensonva 3 года назад
Made me think of Dave the Barbarian. "Some of you are probably wondering why I tied a squirrel to a megaphone."
@Sjono
@Sjono 3 года назад
20:49 He may move slow and he can’t jump high, but this shaman is one hell of a guy!
@zane_kemper
@zane_kemper 5 лет назад
Your post on the Banjo Kazooie sub Reddit brought me here and wow, I’m glad it did. What a great analysis of the Banjo tooie; it’s potentially my favorite game and I’m always happy to see likeminded people think about the game as much as I do. You’ve earned a subscriber and I look forward to your upcoming content and (in my opinion) your inevitable channel growth!
@CloudConnection
@CloudConnection 5 лет назад
Thanks so much! It's always nice to hear from other fans of the games I talk about.
@zionistgoddessofstars
@zionistgoddessofstars 3 года назад
I guess I'm one of the few people that likes backtracking xDD
@Neogears1312
@Neogears1312 3 года назад
Tooies just feels defeating more than it feels like I’m properly expanding where I can explore. Half the time it’s literally just “well you didn’t half ass your way through the game to get all the moves so now you can’t get everything here.”
@thevillipeople
@thevillipeople 2 года назад
Happy to see more love for Tooie! I love both games, but Tooie’s my favorite game ever and it kinda sucks seeing so many people slag it off. Appreciate the appreciation!
@morganbrown8565
@morganbrown8565 2 года назад
13:08 I've played this game about 5 times and never knew you could shoot those icicles on the ceiling, I always just used Kazooie's glide move to get across
@friderification
@friderification 10 месяцев назад
That just reminded me I didn’t realize you could kill the little bees in kazooie by using the invincibility to take em out
@chrisossu2070
@chrisossu2070 5 лет назад
I think at the time having a world this sprawling, especially for a collect-a-thon, was a pretty large hook for a lot of players. It was truly a game of its time that conveyed the sense of an "adventure". However, I can see a lot of people these days not being so fond of it upon returning, especially considering the burnout many are suffering from the sea of triple-A open world games. Tooie is a sequel that's all about adding quantity, while players these days might just want a more focused platformer.
@CloudConnection
@CloudConnection 5 лет назад
I can definitely understand that. Personally I love the larger, more open world of Tooie, but I know mamy people look at it and think "that's way too much stuff." And it does have more empty space than Kazooie's world, but for me, it isn't enough to detract from the experience.
@CCTawks
@CCTawks 5 лет назад
Firstly, your videos are amazing. Your channel is going to explode for sure 😉 Secondly, Banjo Tooie is an exceptional game. One of my all time favourite games for sure. I love Kazooie also but Tooie just took everything that made that game special and multiplied it! The interconnectivity of the worlds and backtracking is also one of the reasons Tooie is better. It feels like a grand adventure in an (almost) realistic landscape. Kazooie felt like 9 mini adventures, still good just not as grand. Also, WitchyWorld would have to be not only my favourite Banjo level of all time but probably my favourite level in any platformer EVER! I adore it. The story (whilst still simple) is much more fleshed out than the orginal’s “damsel in distress” story. I love the darker tone. And can we tawk about the supporting characters?? SUCH an improvement on the original. The characters are hilarious and interesting! I still love reading what they have to say even though I now know every word of dialogue by heart. And the new Tooie characters are so good, Jamjars and Grunty’s sisters are great additions. My personal favourite though is Humba Wumba (I feel she doesn’t get enough love). She’s sassy, sexy, mysterious and I LOVE her rivalry with Mumbo, I always get Mumbo to visit her hut just to read her insults hahaha Anyway, I’ve waffled on far too long. From one small and upcoming RU-vidr to another, great job man! You have a supporter in me for sure 👍 Ps: if you’re interested I’d love for you to consider doing retrospectives on the Star Fox series, Star Fox and Banjo defined my childhood! 😉
@CloudConnection
@CloudConnection 5 лет назад
Thank you so much! I admittedly don't have a lot of experience with the Star Fox series so doing the entire series isn't something that's on the table immediately. Still, never say never!
@antenna_prolly
@antenna_prolly 3 года назад
Since B-K is compared to Mario, I think of B-T as being sort of like a Legend of Zelda.
@Sjono
@Sjono 3 года назад
“What happened to Banjo’s sister, Tooty?” A good question...for another time. “What happened to Grunty’s sister, Brentilda?” A good question...for another time. “Does Kazooie have a sister we don’t know about?” A good question for...another time.
@MotorikBit
@MotorikBit 5 лет назад
I’ve always liked Tooie more. The darker atmosphere and level design definitely contribute to that. I agree 100% with every point you make in the video. Great content!
@CloudConnection
@CloudConnection 5 лет назад
Thanks very much! Yeah, the atmosphere and levels are top-notch.
@arkanjoteixeira
@arkanjoteixeira 5 лет назад
Darker atmosphere?
@TheDeathOfLucifer
@TheDeathOfLucifer 4 года назад
I never played the first one. I thought the Witch head etc looked scary
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 3 года назад
@@CloudConnection It's confirmed on Banjo Wiki that Grunty's Sisters were inspired by the witches in Shakespeare's Macbeth.
@zeospark9715
@zeospark9715 3 года назад
Just a minor thing but you're wrong when you said you don't have to beat all the main bosses in the game except for Gruntilda. You HAVE to defeat Old King Coal in order for you to use Chuffy the train which is tthe only way to get into Grunty Industries the first time around which is where you learn the Claw Climber Boots which is needed to get up to the entrance to Cauldron's Keep.
@wolftales5203
@wolftales5203 Год назад
The Banjo games are immaculate and hold up today incredibly well
@XtinaCMV
@XtinaCMV Год назад
I've loved Tooie since I was a kid. Such a golden sequel.
@hectorcruzrockz4510
@hectorcruzrockz4510 4 года назад
0:14 "Banjo and Kazooie have disconnected. Now they're working individually and as a team to tackle their biggest adventure yet. Banjo Tooie. Rated E for Everyone. Just remember, Bears still need a bird to fly."
@biometrix_
@biometrix_ Год назад
I will point out that Old King Coal IS required to be beaten to beat the game. You need to be able to use the Train to enter the Grunty Industries factory building.
@mattjackson2799
@mattjackson2799 3 года назад
34:47 I found mingy jongo to be actually pretty challenging.Well I was a kid back then so my perspective might have been different but still.
@loganberkheimer1857
@loganberkheimer1857 2 года назад
My grandma and I played the shit out of both of them, but we definitely spent more time with Tooie, so it will always be my favorite of the two
@MayorHairBear
@MayorHairBear 5 лет назад
Personally, I only played Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie last year for the first time. I know many love Tooie, but I personally (other than Grunty's damn QUIZ!) found the original far more enjoyable. 0 nostalgia for either, but personal preference, I remember liking Kazooie a lot more. That being said, you definitely made me rethink... well all of that xD Seriously dude, this is a stellar video. This video is seriously top tier my dude, can't wait to hear your thoughts on Nuts and Bolts (evil laugh... mwah ha... ha)
@CloudConnection
@CloudConnection 5 лет назад
I love both of them, and admittedly it was hard to decide which was better while disregarding my obvious bias. And yeah, I can't wait to hear what people think of my Nuts & Bolts video because I have quite a few things to say about it - and it's probably not what people are expecting!
@Saltyoven
@Saltyoven 5 лет назад
@@CloudConnection nuts and bolts imo is underrated
@stevencabrera9117
@stevencabrera9117 5 лет назад
Although I don't agree completely with all the (subjectively valid) points you made, I also believe Banjo Tooie is the overall way better game. Also I LOOOOVE Grunty Industries!!!
@susiehaltmann3342
@susiehaltmann3342 Год назад
Fun Fact: In Cloud Cuckoo Land in the garbage can there is a milk carton that says “Missing: Tooty Last seen in Banjo Kazooie”
@dorkork
@dorkork 3 года назад
Stop & Swap 2 is for Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts, it just unlocks new parts and stuff
@scamuel1896
@scamuel1896 4 года назад
To me, a lifelong fan and sworn servant to all things this series, Banjo-Kazooie takes the prize as the superior game of the two overall. It has a heck of a lot of things over its successor, most having to do with Gruntilda's presence and role in the story and hub world. A lot of its gameplay (except for the actual movement of the duo themselves) makes more sense and feels more natural. That SAID, however, I _very_ much personally prefer the gameplay and aesthetics of Banjo-Tooie. I like my games huge, tough, relatively dark, and FULL of puzzles; once I played both games back-to-back, there was no question. Not to mention the objectively superior graphics and animation work (which you didn't cover in your video for some reason..?) and the lovely inter-connectivity and cohesiveness of the Isle O' Hags. In fact, it takes the title of my favorite video game of all time. Banjo-Kazooie will always be _better,_ but I _like_ Banjo-Tooie _more._
@PaperAiden
@PaperAiden 3 года назад
Banjo Kazooie is better but Banjo Tooie is better- What are you trying to say?
@scamuel1896
@scamuel1896 3 года назад
@@PaperAiden I didn't say Banjo-Tooie is better, I said that I like it more. The original Banjo-Kazooie is the better game in my opinion.
@PaperAiden
@PaperAiden 3 года назад
@@scamuel1896 Wha-huh!? What are you saying????? If you like it more, shouldnt it be better, but wha- if Kazooie is better shouldnt you like it more- WHA HUH?????????
@scamuel1896
@scamuel1896 3 года назад
@@PaperAiden It's, uh, not that difficult to understand. Sometimes, I know that a game is good, but I just don't enjoy it. The Super Smash Bros. games prior to Ultimate are good examples - I can tell that they're very, very good games, but I don't have fun with them. Similarly, I have far more fun with Banjo-Tooie than I do with -Kazooie, but my objective game critiquing senses tell me that -Tooie is worse designed.
@PaperAiden
@PaperAiden 3 года назад
@@scamuel1896 ok i guess
@UncleFlutus
@UncleFlutus 4 года назад
I come back to this retrospective a lot, really good to put on while I work or sleep. Thanks for taking the time to go over this whole series, I love it to bits ^_^
@CloudConnection
@CloudConnection 4 года назад
Thank you so much man! That really means a lot to me!
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