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A Simple Way to Learn Complex Skills 

Benjamin Keep, PhD, JD
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@darby3762
@darby3762 7 месяцев назад
Cuts to the chase, no annoying intro, no weird picture of the content creator wearing a weird facial expression, no overly enthusiastic style of delivery trying to get you to feel excited and amped up but only serve to exhaust you, simple presentation that works, no annoying music. Seriously, so many have become slaves to the algorithm trends. This is a breath of fresh air.
@NewLife2028
@NewLife2028 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, and he's HOT, too!
@forhadrh
@forhadrh 6 месяцев назад
Agree 💖💖
@Dani4You-mw9md
@Dani4You-mw9md 5 месяцев назад
@@NewLife2028 why?? why??
@ishrakmujibift4269
@ishrakmujibift4269 4 месяца назад
Well, you will not be able to reach a wider audience without that. Nevertheless, I would assume it would be nice to have an audience that is inherently curious about learning, rather than someone who just wants some short tips and tricks because they have to cram for an exam.
@earthspeed
@earthspeed 11 месяцев назад
Basic Steps: Focus on Specific Aspects: When learning complex skills, break them down into specific aspects that can be practiced individually. Sequential Attention: Instead of trying to master everything at once, focus on one aspect at a time and practice it thoroughly. Switch Attention: After dedicating time to one aspect, switch your focus to another. Continue this process, alternating between different aspects. Integration: After practicing each aspect individually, return to the original aspect and integrate all the learned components. Key Points: Complex Skills: Some skills can be broken down into discrete steps for practice, while others involve interdependent parts that can't be practiced separately. Attention Matters: Changing what you focus on is a powerful way to learn complex skills effectively. It's crucial to pay attention to the right aspects at the right time. Creating Building Blocks: Focusing on one aspect helps the brain create meaningful building blocks for more complex skills. Sequential Attention Yields Better Learning: Alternating attention between different aspects of a skill over time is more effective than trying to focus on everything at once. Continued Learning Gains: Even after switching to normal practice, the group that sequentially paid attention to two aspects continued to outperform others. Generalization to Other Contexts: This approach has been replicated in various contexts, indicating its broad applicability. Focused Attention: Focusing on specific aspects allows learners to build the necessary pieces and integrate them effectively over time. Overall, the key takeaway is that by dividing complex skills into manageable components and systematically focusing on each aspect, you can improve your learning and performance in a more efficient and effective way.
@30Phani
@30Phani Год назад
If you wrote a book on learning i would buy it. Keep making these videos.Thank you!
@benjaminkeep
@benjaminkeep Год назад
Thanks for the kind words! I do have some book ideas, but am trying to grow my online presence first, which makes it easier to pitch book proposals. : )
@lamp2208
@lamp2208 Год назад
@@benjaminkeep im curious, is your PhD free to view online?
@benjaminkeep
@benjaminkeep Год назад
searchworks.stanford.edu/view/12663695. It's on learning problem solving in a complex scientific domain. Doesn't make for great reading. 😅
@tullochgorum6323
@tullochgorum6323 Год назад
@@benjaminkeep Sadly your following in this excellent channel is far more modest than it deserves. I don't know how the RU-vid algo prioritises content, but quality doesn't seem to be much of a factor. It's depressing how many of the popular channels on learning how to learn give some pretty iffy advice. Endless content on flashcards, for example, which are a woeful approach to learning any complex topic...
@lucienkennedy1997
@lucienkennedy1997 Год назад
I’d buy it too
@Ojalalluevapronto
@Ojalalluevapronto Год назад
It's incredible how this apply for every subject, I use to play chess online just for fun without seen any improvement for years, then i started paying attention to not go into suspicious forcing tactics, then paying attention to play standard moves until the opponent make some weak move and profit, then to play the most confortable moves for me when i'm winning and not necessary the absolute best, and i started getting a little bit better.
@batlin
@batlin Год назад
I really like this idea. I think you've touched on this in another video, but one thing to be wary of is to not get too bogged down at the mechanistic level. The Perception and Action podcast discussed an interesting study that wanted to determine whether you should start with a very easy task and gradually make it more difficult, or start with a very difficult task and gradually make it easier. I think they were learning to throw darts or something. It turned out that the first method was much better, where subjects stood very close to the target so that the shot would succeed like 90% of the time, then increase the distance as long as accuracy didn't start to drop too far. Their theory was that starting with a really difficult task caused people to spend a lot of their time hypothesising about what was going wrong, which hampered or prevented implicit learning processes. In the scenario starting with unmissable shots, they didn't bother consciously reasoning so much and implicit learning was able to take place unhindered. I suspect this is one reason why children learn complex skills depending heavily on procedural and motor memory -- like music or languages -- more easily than adults. Of course they have an advantage in having much better access to neuroplasticity (even if they don't care about the topic), but they're also more likely to just enjoy _doing_ the skill and paying curious but relaxed attention to the output, rather than focusing so much on internal mechanistic factors. I remember as an adult trying to improve at snooker, constantly asking "is my elbow sticking out too much? Am I twisting my wrist during the shot? Is my leg in the wrong place or not bent enough, or too much? Stance too wide?". Of course, another benefit kids get is that they tend to play around with the parameters more, automatically allowing them to explore more of the action space, where adults tend to want to rigorously perform "correctly".
@benjaminkeep
@benjaminkeep Год назад
Thanks for the thoughtful comment! Some of what you talk about here is also related to internal vs external focus. Generally speaking, with motor skills, external focus results in more efficient learning.
@sohgesu813
@sohgesu813 Год назад
nice and insightful comment, would you mind sharing the link to the exact perception and action podcast you cited? I also listen to it as well. Have a great day!
@batlin
@batlin Год назад
@@sohgesu813 hi, the episode I was thinking of is 410 - Combined Effects of Variability and Errors in Practice Design. Specifically the discussion of "errorless vs errorful practice" about 5:40 into the recording.
@Gameboob
@Gameboob Год назад
​@@batlinthanks for mentioning that podcast! Looks very informative!!
@StillAliveAndKicking_
@StillAliveAndKicking_ 11 месяцев назад
I’ve watched kids learn skating and ice hockey, and they do so much faster than adults. One key reason is less fear, with less risk. If a child falls while skating, they feel much less pain. This is because they are smaller and lighter. Similarly a beetle can fall several feet, and walk off as if nothing had happened. However beetles don’t skate well. With language kids don’t worry about mistakes, whereas adults are self conscious, and will usually be corrected by native speakers.
@thatskums
@thatskums 9 месяцев назад
You give the best advice ever. No other channel is as scientific and as detailed as yours is! Thank you for all your efforts
@baconrocksable
@baconrocksable 2 месяца назад
this is true this is how i learned to drive staying in my line, making sure my turns weren't too wide, lane changes, maintaining speed, looking out for people around you all of this was overwhelming at once but when I focused on one skill or aspect at a time it became much easier to just drive :)
@amichayr3418
@amichayr3418 11 месяцев назад
This is such a simple and almost obvious method. I am surprised everyone goes through high school and sometimes colleges and universities without even being exposed to content like this. You are a life saver for anyone who enjoys learning!
@romulobr
@romulobr 10 месяцев назад
This is called fundamentals, any course on anything starts with that, and yes the reason “people aren’t told this” is because it is literally obvious. Anyone who is trying to learn or teach anything knows that, what are the basics or fundamentals for the skills, focus on that and everything else will become easier.
@CapeSkill
@CapeSkill 10 месяцев назад
@@romulobr no it's not obvious at all, especially not middle school, high school.
@romulino
@romulino 10 месяцев назад
I don't know, maybe it should be. That's how every curriculum is designed, you start with the fundamentals otherwise it becomes impossible to learn. That's why we have to do so many math exercises since the beginning of our learning journey, if you don't focus on those and stick with them, you just can't learn anything more advanced, ever. That applies for every skill, you can't write proper sentences if you didn't focus on grammar basics, and so on and so on. @@CapeSkill
@d.dimitrov8972
@d.dimitrov8972 10 месяцев назад
@@romulobr seems like you are an expert on learning and have some tacit knowledge on the subject, but for some of us such information is not so obvious so when someone points it out to us like Benjamin does it really helps
@swagcat51
@swagcat51 3 месяца назад
@@romulobrthis approach is common sense in a learning environment such as school but in real life contexts such as video games nah.
@AEGIS-RED-MEGA-VIEWS
@AEGIS-RED-MEGA-VIEWS 11 месяцев назад
divide and conquer u say? I don't know how many of us remember how we learned to use pc or phone, but we didn't went "oh, let's go learn use this device", but we rather just went exploring, doing meaningless things. That's a great way to learn and master things. By just exploring without expecting anything in return (or not much). Good vid
@Super21Nash
@Super21Nash 11 месяцев назад
love how short this video is. Not a lot of time was spent on the build up, message was actually something novel for me, and the message was simple. loved it.
@ytpah9823
@ytpah9823 11 месяцев назад
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 ☕ Some skills, like brewing tea, can be broken down into discrete steps for practice, while others, like playing Starcraft, involve multiple interdependent parts. 00:52 🎮 For complex skills, changing what you focus on can be a powerful way to learn, as demonstrated by a study on the video game "Space Fortress." 01:18 📋 Researchers divided learners into groups and gave them different focal instructions for practice sessions, emphasizing different parts of the game. 02:15 👀 Groups given specific aspects to pay attention to during practice scored higher than the control group which didn't have any particular focus. 03:14 🧠 This method, focusing on specific aspects, helps our brain create building blocks for more complex skills. 03:39 🔄 For mastering interdependent skills, one can focus on different aspects sequentially and then revisit them, leading to enhanced learning. 04:08 🔍 Directing attention to certain aspects rather than juggling everything at once can lead to greater learning gains.
@Erick-no8zn
@Erick-no8zn 11 месяцев назад
AI
@AEGIS-RED-MEGA-VIEWS
@AEGIS-RED-MEGA-VIEWS 11 месяцев назад
divide and..
@abdirahmandama3266
@abdirahmandama3266 11 месяцев назад
@@AEGIS-RED-MEGA-VIEWS multiply?
@bonaface
@bonaface 11 месяцев назад
ok do his work for him. the real lesson is how to pay attention to this video! Zzzzzzz bring a pillow cuz it is napping time.
@szymonbaranowski8184
@szymonbaranowski8184 11 месяцев назад
bro it's 4 minutes video you need to have a hardcore ADHD to need timestamps here better contribute on 2h videos of Huberman podcast 😂
@pierrotlasticot5848
@pierrotlasticot5848 7 месяцев назад
that's what my singing teacher had me doing for years, and it works great. the voice is a complex system, involving way more parts than you can imagine, and most of these parts are interdependent and hard to isolate. focusing on just 1 or 2 things for the next couple of sessions while the whole mechanisms works has been very helpful in overall progressing
@Lokislav
@Lokislav 11 месяцев назад
I've noticed the same thing when playing CS:GO. Those who spent thousands of hours playing match-making only/mostly were often times no match to those who were grinding particular niches of the game, such as smoke and flash lineups, counter-strafing, prefiring, remembering angles, spawn timings, movement of your own character, predicting the other enemy's next move, practicing headshot-only deathmatches, tracking heads of moving bots on certain practice maps, the list goes on. You can much more effectively target all those necessary skills in a much shorter timespan. It was a really cool thing to witness as I grew almost exponentially while my long-term teammates were almost stagnating. One thing I was lacking at the end of it all, was nerves. Those who were playing thousands of hours match-making had a more stable stress response to certain situations than me, I could see the difference in nervousness especially in clutches (1v2, 1v1, etc.). That's something you just can't practice, but grow to with time.
@criticalbil1
@criticalbil1 11 месяцев назад
That was excellent. Genuinely insightful and practical. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@TiffanyNg100
@TiffanyNg100 11 месяцев назад
Algorithm always know what I’m thinking and it’s scary how accurate my current thinking and this video answer my problem
@ezraantenh2947
@ezraantenh2947 10 месяцев назад
I didn't feel dumb while watching this video. Thank you, sir.
@tfewald01
@tfewald01 11 месяцев назад
Makes sense. Thanks.
@okdokie278
@okdokie278 Год назад
Excellent! This is EXACTLY the sort of content on learning science I was looking for! Super subscribed!
@Mynamewashere
@Mynamewashere 11 месяцев назад
So the way to learn a skill that you can't easily brake down, is to find a way to break it down with your attention.
@JacopoSkydweller
@JacopoSkydweller 11 месяцев назад
This is helpful, I am a Mech E and have ADHD and often gravitate to complex things/game/systems/projects because they have a lot of different things interacting which is interesting and keeps me engaged. But it's often difficult to break in and learn these things, because of interconnected systems. There are a few instances that I have done this naturally because it was overwhelming, but now that my attention has been drawn to it, I think it will be easier in the future.
@NuclearMex
@NuclearMex 11 месяцев назад
Either tis solely the two of us or most Mechanical Engineering students suffer from this.
@JacopoSkydweller
@JacopoSkydweller 11 месяцев назад
A good handful of my engineering buddies who are now post college, have way to many hobbies and got diagnosed later in life. Definitely not just us. I REALLY struggled with getting homework done until I started body doubling for stuff. You got this guy! HealthyGamer youtube channel has been very helpful in learning about ADHD and how to deal with it. @@NuclearMex
@StillAliveAndKicking_
@StillAliveAndKicking_ 11 месяцев назад
Thanks. This is a very interesting video.
@mocerlaalacbaino
@mocerlaalacbaino 11 месяцев назад
I kinda figured out that, difference is because of information unknown to me but known to the genius because genius is either using more senses or using senses differently. for example: I go to gym and I don't make muscle gains much. But this other guy who is also me who goes to gym, pays attention to the muscle sensation. And he now has gains.
@firebirdies
@firebirdies 11 месяцев назад
Very inspiring!! Like how university curriculums and professional exams are structured
@hedu5303
@hedu5303 11 месяцев назад
Please more videos about complex skills
@someasiankid6323
@someasiankid6323 11 месяцев назад
man i can definitely apply this to learning mma.
@BaronVonScrub
@BaronVonScrub 11 месяцев назад
League of Legends has the common mantra to new players to simply "Pay attention to last hitting, it's enough to get you out of bronze." In theory, of course it's not. Doing it to the exclusion of all else doesn't actually let you reap the benefits. In practice, you end up with more gold and XP within each individual game, and a better understanding of wave dynamics, health representations of bars, gold splits across minions, trading patterns, etc. All of that gives you the tools to the progress and learn more specific skills in a stronger context than just firing blindly and hoping for the best.
@nowonmetube
@nowonmetube 11 месяцев назад
Yeah it's what I experienced myself what should be obvious at this point: The saying goes practice makes perfect, but that doesn't mean you can't still do something for years and won't get significantly better. For instance if you "practice cooking" but you don't know what you're doing wrong, then you won't get much better at it. But if you practice cutting onions for example and practice frying, seasoning etc. all individually, then you get better quickly. ➡️ That's the reason why people suck even after playing the same game for years. They don't practice it, they do the same thing over and over.
@figurehorizon520
@figurehorizon520 10 месяцев назад
thank you
@geetatripathi2454
@geetatripathi2454 11 месяцев назад
Excellent
@isaiahukeji
@isaiahukeji 10 месяцев назад
U skills is really entriguing
@productivebeasthopefullyso194
@productivebeasthopefullyso194 8 месяцев назад
Distinguishing skills: skills you can split apart into smaller pieces: exp.making a cup of tea You can break down learning "how to brew a cup of tea" into smaller steps, which can be practiced on it's own skills you can't split apart into smaller pieces: exp. playing Warcraft You can't break the process of "learning how to play better Warcraft" into smaller pieces, which you can develope isolated. Still there are many in...
@mericusta1988
@mericusta1988 10 месяцев назад
Here for the tennis serve
@amanitaocreata4401
@amanitaocreata4401 11 месяцев назад
Useful strategy for chemistry
@jvkanufan8115
@jvkanufan8115 11 месяцев назад
It's called 'part-task training'. Not really too much new here. Interesting video all the same 👍
@anilrathore.bigthink
@anilrathore.bigthink 11 месяцев назад
thanks
@indieMiwi
@indieMiwi 11 месяцев назад
This is brilliant and useful thanks for sharing
@singhbhai
@singhbhai 11 месяцев назад
That's how everyone learns complex skills ofcouse, college doesn't teach you whole syllabus in one month do they? Key thing is to keep practicing those steps so many times.
@yudoball
@yudoball 11 месяцев назад
great vid, thx
@krishnachaitanya4822
@krishnachaitanya4822 11 месяцев назад
So is it deliberate questioning? Playing around with a part of a process? And slowly seeing how they are relevant to each other?
@tractorpoodle
@tractorpoodle 11 месяцев назад
I played Space Fortress, and I learned to fly an airplane using this method. It works.
@rikaorimoto8674
@rikaorimoto8674 11 месяцев назад
great video
@Andreluiz-dp2ho
@Andreluiz-dp2ho Год назад
This is Gold!
@tonyban8016
@tonyban8016 Год назад
The idea of using your attention as a tool for divide complex skills into subskills shares some similarities with how I've seen Justin Sung describes his study approach.
@AndrewKay
@AndrewKay 8 месяцев назад
The study you described doesn't exactly seem fair; the control group were told nothing about the game, whereas the other three groups were given strategic advice for playing (i.e. a particular thing is significant). The fourth group is told about two significant things while groups 2 and 3 are told about one. So the simplest explanation is that groups 2 and 3 improved faster than group 1 because they received (a little) coaching, and group 4 improved faster because they received (a little) more coaching. Put another way, the method of rotating focus requires the learner to know (or be told) what individual skills are worth focusing on, so a fair comparison would require the control group (who don't use the rotating focus method) to also know what's worth focusing on. Otherwise the effect could be attributed to the extra knowledge instead of the learning technique. This also gets more complicated when it's not obvious to a beginner what *can* be focused on. The yellow ship and the cyan mines are visually distinct elements on the screen which can obviously be focused on; on the other hand, e.g. in Go the concept of influence is important, but new players will be unlikely to learn what influence is and how to perceive it (let alone the importance of doing so) without being taught. As a side-note, the graph seems to show that group 4 outperformed group 2 in the first three weeks, despite both groups receiving the same instructions up until that point. This doesn't really matter if the finding has been replicated by later work, though.
@elmoe01
@elmoe01 10 месяцев назад
Divide and conquer.
@asabutterfield2782
@asabutterfield2782 11 месяцев назад
Great video but I also think we could also use this technique for understanding other aspects of learning like the “speed” with which we learn complex things not only on our general ability to learn this complex things better.. Like when a student learns less number of topics than required for and exams on the basis of what has been taught. In order to understand those few ones better and then score all marks allocated for the questions in those topic while just attempting the remaining but expected topics for just anymore marks.. In most cases such students would pass well an not only that they would now have deep understanding on the topics they concentrated on and would have learned the entire subject faster ..
@AbhishekKumar-lp7wy
@AbhishekKumar-lp7wy 11 месяцев назад
Oh man !! this must be the secret.❤
@averagetechnologyenojyer
@averagetechnologyenojyer 10 месяцев назад
Heyy i read this cool book by barbara Oakley learning how to learn, was super kewl :))
@mzs114
@mzs114 11 месяцев назад
Please try the game battle for wesnoth.
@profet1385
@profet1385 11 месяцев назад
I'm surprised you said you can't practice those skills (in SC) separately. I'm not SC player but have played Dota, similarly complex game. And you can definitely practice reaction speed, farming patterns, positioning, last hitting, pulling and many other skills separately. I can't imagine it would be different for SC - you could practice efficient APM, I.e.not clicking needlessly, or just microing your units in a battle with a friend, neither of you having to build and support a base.
@enerxiazelementa
@enerxiazelementa 11 месяцев назад
does this oppose eleanor gibson's idea about perceptual learning?
@edgarperez8949
@edgarperez8949 Год назад
interesting study.
@DrifterXx22
@DrifterXx22 11 месяцев назад
musicians actually do this to practice. we practice in chunks and interleaving into the next measure.
@PLyanaz
@PLyanaz 10 месяцев назад
Ideas how can I use it for improving coding skills?
@userdd106
@userdd106 Год назад
Hey Benji , i just wanted to know something about active recall,free call...etc How can I use them effectively if i didn't even grasp the concept very well ?
@benjaminkeep
@benjaminkeep Год назад
The point of free recall is not to remember everything - the point is to help you learn the concept. It informs you about what you don't understand so that you can pay attention to the right stuff when you look back at the material.
@technoworlddd
@technoworlddd Год назад
Thanks for your help, I wish If u can make a video on higher order learning in medical study
@benjaminkeep
@benjaminkeep Год назад
To do that, I think I would need to collaborate with some doctors or medical students.
@technoworlddd
@technoworlddd Год назад
​@@benjaminkeep iam a dentist
@technoworlddd
@technoworlddd Год назад
​@@benjaminkeep ❤
@howiedick6857
@howiedick6857 9 месяцев назад
Studies have shown as well that you have to go back and forth in order to get the most benefit. Just studying one aspect and never returning to it isn't a good idea. And it's best to space the learning of a particular subject out ,mixing it with other subjects
@riverxc
@riverxc Год назад
Wouldn't this concept conflict with the idea of interleaving? I'm having a hard time imagining how to apply both when practicing a skill.
@hemangchauhan2864
@hemangchauhan2864 10 месяцев назад
For slightly neurodivergent minds, focus can be easily lost and project can become directionless 😅
@Aritul
@Aritul Год назад
I wonder how this would work when applied to swimming.
@EricPham-gr8pg
@EricPham-gr8pg 10 месяцев назад
Methodist church led to billion people left in homelessness or unemployed when society and science change so fast
@nicolaslaurent4859
@nicolaslaurent4859 11 месяцев назад
Why is group D having better results after 3 sessions as it is the same as group C or B for these 3 first rounds? Looks like they are more clever and so the result is not relevant^^
@leocomerford
@leocomerford Год назад
1:00 _Space Fortress_ looks like a clone of _Star Castle_ , actually a reasonably well-known 1980s vector arcade game. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Castle
@frezzingaces
@frezzingaces 11 месяцев назад
The key thing in the study was they were telling the groups what were the most impactful parts of the game up front, instead of the control who had to figure out themselves over time. This is why coaching is so good to learn skills - being told what's important to focus on is key. I wonder if this same approach could be replicated in learning new skills where it's unknown what are the important factors.
@daczito
@daczito 11 месяцев назад
Interesting thought!
@agustinbjr
@agustinbjr 11 месяцев назад
If there’s a task where the important factors are unknown, then I don’t think it can be replicated. Knowing what’s the most important to focus on (normally fundamentals) is crucial
@IdeaAgeConsulting
@IdeaAgeConsulting 11 месяцев назад
This is a great point. I think for the most part, even new areas can be decoded with some thought and some outreach to others in the same domain. Once key areas have been decoded, the insight from above could probably be applied to great results.
@raybod1775
@raybod1775 11 месяцев назад
I believe it will become obvious after time examining whatever skill we want to learn and ask “What is critically important to do what I want? How can I do this skill badly, but still do it?” It’s possible to figure out anything over time by going back and ask yourself “Okay, I’m not good enough, what am I most bad at and what can I do to improve myself?” It’s always better to find good mentors, coaches or classes in learning skills, but not always possible.
@frezzingaces
@frezzingaces 11 месяцев назад
@@raybod1775 Yeah, reflection. That’s why serious gamers do vod reviews, like the rewatch their own games with a more critical eye, instead of just playing endlessly.
@Rinzlov
@Rinzlov 11 месяцев назад
Did you look into proffesional starcraft training forums? 😄The literally have separate training maps and mods to train separately the resources, building, expansions, scouting etc, and then they have training resources that start combining these things.
@profet1385
@profet1385 11 месяцев назад
That's my spot as well
@rashedulkabir6227
@rashedulkabir6227 4 месяца назад
When you combine you will have to pay attention to all aspects at the same time ?
@Rinzlov
@Rinzlov 4 месяца назад
@@rashedulkabir6227 Yeah, but contrary to this video the skills can actually be taken apart and trained separately. And for professional players it's a must. And you only move to combining them once you get really good at each of them separately.
@Zhouri
@Zhouri 11 месяцев назад
Any leetcoders here ?
@slstudio2591
@slstudio2591 11 месяцев назад
Key takeaways for video: Complex Skills Require Attention to Interdependent Parts: - Some skills, like brewing tea, can be broken down into discrete steps. - However, many skills, such as playing Starcraft, involve interdependent parts that can't be practiced separately. Changing What You Pay Attention to Matters: - The video highlights a study involving the video game Space Fortress to illustrate this point. - Learners were divided into four groups, each focusing on different aspects of the game. Attention Creates Building Blocks: - The study revealed that those who focused on one aspect of the game initially performed better. - Paying attention to one aspect helps the brain create meaningful building blocks for the skill. Sequential Attention Yields Better Learning: - The recommended method is to pay attention to one aspect of the skill for a period, then switch to another aspect, and repeat. - This sequential approach is more effective than trying to pay equal attention to everything at once. Continued Learning Gains: - The group that sequentially paid attention to two aspects continued to outperform the others even after switching to normal gameplay. Generalization to Other Contexts: - The finding has been replicated in various other contexts, suggesting its broad applicability. Benefits of Focused Attention: - Focusing on one aspect at a time allows learners to build the necessary pieces and integrate them effectively over time.
@kallenijs
@kallenijs 11 месяцев назад
This makes sense for most physical sports: you need to use you whole body and pay attention to a million different things, but by focusing on a single small aspect each session, you can improve steadily, even if you are still terrible in most aspects.
@lazygardens
@lazygardens 10 месяцев назад
It also works for non-physical activities. Editing, for example is a complex task where any edit affects everything else, but if you want to teach someone to edit you have to focus them on one component until they grasp it. Because Everywhere, All at Once is too much.
@JasonMitchellofcompsci
@JasonMitchellofcompsci 11 месяцев назад
This works for language too. Nearly all learning software doesn't work because it wants to reward you with forming sentences right away. But if you were to just hard memorize nouns for a month, and then hard memorize verbs for a month, you are going to be understanding enough in the sentences you hear to start noticing grammar patterns on your own. Add a little book learning to aid and it isn't too bad.
@HOWARD963_
@HOWARD963_ 11 месяцев назад
Have you ever tried the etymology of every noun or verb?
@JasonMitchellofcompsci
@JasonMitchellofcompsci 11 месяцев назад
​@@HOWARD963_ I'm not saying to memorize every noun or verb. I'm saying that memorizing single words is a very easy task. And after two months of drilling them you will understand enough that the rest of learning a language will come pretty easily. You will be guarenteed to recognize something from nearly every sentence you hear. Some people study a language for a year and still fail.
@Anxiou5Panda
@Anxiou5Panda 10 месяцев назад
I agree with you. I am not trying to actively learn Japanese because I am not yet paying close attention to it, but by constantly watching anime, the most common terms, expressions, or greetings gets drilled to your brain you'll start to recognize patterns or can somewhat understand what a character or an actual person is saying. Of course it's not 100% precise nor accurate but that's because as I've said, I am not yet deep diving into it. So hypothetically, if I do, with this method, I might learn to speak reasonably well in a year.
@lapatria100
@lapatria100 Год назад
Great video. I notice this with calculus, personally. I generally practice solving a multitude of problems without stressing too much about understanding. Eventually, i dive deeper into trying to understand the significance of these problems while at the same time practicing some problems make the connection. So: 1. Doing then 2. Understanding Then 1+2
@ericm9495
@ericm9495 Год назад
I love how you mentioned starcraft at the beginning because I remember learning this exact concept from jakatak, who is a starcraft content creator that emphasizes exactly this. Break up a task into simpler bits, practice those, then put them all together.
@zardecil9419
@zardecil9419 11 месяцев назад
Jakatak is off making an RTS now. How time flies.
@CaptainWumbo
@CaptainWumbo Год назад
I think it's largely about what is signal vs what is noise. Having important aspects pointed out to you helps you build intuition for what's important. But you could just as well sabotage learning and performance by asking people to focus on something unimportant early on, say conjugations for verbs in a language learning class for people with a vocabulary under 5000 words. The right thing at the right time is very important to outcomes, and with no guidance whatsoever you may focus on something so marginal it does not help you almost at all. To take StarCraft as example, many people focused too heavily on micro when their results would improve much faster if they knew how to grow their economy and make more stuff.
@benjaminkeep
@benjaminkeep Год назад
100% agreed. This comes back to the difficulty of learning on your own and the value that instructors provide. What I present in the video is a simple, but basic approach. There are many ways of structuring "part-whole" practice in complex tasks that can be more effective, especially when designed by a teacher or coach.
@bakeral-sheyab546
@bakeral-sheyab546 Год назад
You have remember me after passing 1m
@benjaminkeep
@benjaminkeep Год назад
You mean subscribers? I can only hope. : )
@manuellorenzo7247
@manuellorenzo7247 Год назад
​@@benjaminkeep you and @colin gale are the best
@theblinkingbrownie4654
@theblinkingbrownie4654 Год назад
​@@manuellorenzo7247also Justin
@pravinthakur5865
@pravinthakur5865 Год назад
Remember me
@naruto2841
@naruto2841 Год назад
@@benjaminkeep it's just like coding partitioning the complex problems into smaller one and solving them one after the other
@DarrenMcStravick
@DarrenMcStravick Год назад
This is just like iterative systems development methodologies. Build a little bit of each part of a system in sequence connecting each part together, then go back through another iteration to build on and/or revise the parts you initially worked on. Repeat this process until the complete system has been developed, test it and once tests are successful and confirmation is received, implement it. Really wicked stuff! -- You're helping me connect my learning material with both my learning method and my background knowledge!
@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805
@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 9 месяцев назад
What would be the best way to learn the Tango? What method would you recommend? Do you have some kind of consultancy service?
@akagordon
@akagordon 11 месяцев назад
If you've ever wondered how a drummer does a drum roll, or plays complex sticking across an entire drum kit, it's the same thing. They practice slowly, and analytically, focusing on one limb at a time.
@TangentMoon
@TangentMoon 11 месяцев назад
It's funny, I just stumbled upon this idea myself when trying to teach myself music composition and production. Before, I was just starting with a blank page, and trying to learn all at once in every project. Recently I've been consciously breaking up the skills in each session: writing a theme, orchestrating, sound design, arrangement, mixing mastering etc. And while it still looks like I am doing the same thing, as in the game example, I have found it mentally much easier to have a clear focus on what exactly I am going to do each time I sit down to try and create music.
@KhoaNguyen-qu3ic
@KhoaNguyen-qu3ic 11 месяцев назад
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:52 🧠 To learn highly interdependent skills, change what you pay attention to. 02:45 🎯 Focusing on one aspect of a skill for a period helps create meaningful building blocks for more complex skills. 03:14 📈 Learning gains can be greater by alternating attention between different aspects of a skill over time. 01:18 🕹️ An experiment with a video game shows the impact of attention on skill development. 04:08 📚 To learn complex skills, focus on one aspect, switch to another, and then return to the original aspect for improved learning. Made with HARPA AI
@centrumsaiyan7623
@centrumsaiyan7623 11 месяцев назад
I have learnt a similar technique in 'Learn to learn' from coursera. It works wonderful. In just 3 months I was able to learn boxing, drumming, complex coding, and pass german language. The idea is to use active and passive learning technique. Apparently your brain by default does the passive learning. All you gotta do is switch between each skills after a session(active) and let the brain learn the pattern over the skills you are trying to master(passive). Correct me if I'm wrong, I am always willing to learn.
@faksmakinesi
@faksmakinesi 10 месяцев назад
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🧩 Learning Complex Skills - Learning complex skills can be challenging when they involve interdependent parts. - Some skills, like playing Starcraft, require multiple component skills that interact with each other. - The key to practicing highly interdependent skills is changing what you pay attention to. 01:18 🎮 Space Fortress Experiment - Researchers conducted an experiment with a video game called Space Fortress to study skill development. - They divided participants into four groups with different attention instructions. - Groups that focused on specific aspects of the game showed better performance than the control group. 02:45 🌟 The Power of Attention - Paying attention to one aspect of a skill helps the brain create meaningful building blocks. - Over time, these blocks can be integrated to master the more complex skill. - Focusing on different aspects sequentially can lead to greater learning gains in complex skills. 03:39 💡 Practical Learning Strategy - When learning a complex, interdependent skill, try focusing on one aspect for a while, then shift to another. - Rotate your attention between different aspects of the skill to build a deeper understanding. - This method can lead to more effective learning compared to trying to focus on everything equally at once. Made with HARPA AI
@markkeeper7771
@markkeeper7771 10 месяцев назад
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 ☕ Learning Complex Skills Overview - Overview of learning complex skills with a focus on interdependent parts. - Tea brewing analogy: Skills like brewing tea involve discrete steps that can be practiced separately. - Challenge of interdependence: Many skills, like playing Starcraft, involve interdependent components that can't be practiced separately, posing a unique challenge. 00:52 🔄 Adapting Attention for Skill Practice - Adapting attention strategy: Changing what you pay attention to as a method for practicing highly interdependent skills. - Space Fortress study: Illustration of the concept using the Space Fortress video game study. - Groups and instructions: The study divided learners into groups with different attention focuses, demonstrating varying learning outcomes. 02:15 🎯 Impact of Attention on Learning - Attention-focused learning: The importance of attention in skill development becomes evident as groups focusing on specific aspects outperform the control group. - Meaningful building blocks: Paying attention to one aspect helps create meaningful building blocks for more complex skills. - Extended learning gains: The group focusing on two aspects continues to outperform others even after returning to regular practice. 03:39 🧠 Practical Application of Attention - Practical application advice: Suggestion to apply the attention strategy to learning complex, interdependent skills. - Incremental attention: The recommendation to focus on one aspect for a while, then shift attention to another aspect, and repeat. - Expected learning gains: The proposition that this method may lead to greater learning gains compared to trying to pay attention to everything equally at once. Made with HARPA AI
@Hyumanity
@Hyumanity 11 месяцев назад
Differentiation and integration. Ah, the meta-principle of our universe. This was very useful, thank you.
@raginald7mars408
@raginald7mars408 11 месяцев назад
any Genius shows how Simple and Easy it is - to demonstrate I am NO Genius ever
@AEGIS-RED-MEGA-VIEWS
@AEGIS-RED-MEGA-VIEWS 11 месяцев назад
yes
@tullochgorum6323
@tullochgorum6323 Год назад
The other day we had a chat about applying skill learning research to language learning. I suspect that this strategy could be useful for - say, a beginner trying to listen to native speech. This is a notoriously confusing and demoralising experience, so breaking it down might be helpful. They could start by listening for word boundaries, for example. Then they could listen for the overall shape of the intonation. Then they could try and pick out the verbs, then the nouns, and so on. Gradually, the undifferentiated mush of sound would hopefully begin to take on some meaning? I suspect that this might be particularly useful for people studying distant languages such as, say, Turkish, Korean or Mandarin for an English native.
@benjaminkeep
@benjaminkeep Год назад
Interesting approach!
@MathAdam
@MathAdam 11 месяцев назад
I'm gonna try this to improve my driving. For the next 4 days, I'll ignore the brakes and steering wheel. I'll report back later on my progress. Off to the freeway!
@IronicCrime
@IronicCrime 8 месяцев назад
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🍵 *Some skills involve discrete steps that can be practiced separately, while others, like playing Starcraft, have interdependent components that can't be easily practiced in isolation.* 01:18 🎮 *To learn interdependent skills effectively, change what you pay attention to. An experiment with the game Space Fortress showed that focusing on specific aspects of the game led to better performance.* 02:45 🧠 *Paying attention to one aspect of a skill helps the brain create meaningful building blocks, leading to better learning gains. Group four, instructed to focus on two aspects, outperformed other groups in the long run.* 04:08 🔄 *When learning complex skills, try focusing on one aspect at a time, building pieces of the skill, and then integrating them over time for greater learning gains.* Made with HARPA AI
@fahadus
@fahadus 11 месяцев назад
This feels like a great tie in for that famous Bruce Lee quote: "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times." Someone with more skill at a certain aspect should be overall better than someone who's just winging it entirely.
@pockster2854
@pockster2854 Месяц назад
StarCraft mentioned?!?!? I discovered your channel about two weeks ago and I cannot express how helpful it has already been, especially in the self-confidence department. I am going to university in my late 20s for the first time and I never really "learned how to learn". I always felt that I was not capable enough. Which was true but not for the reasons I thought I was! Thank you for providing so many people with these great tools and new perspectives on learning and more. I truly am grateful!
@capgains
@capgains 11 месяцев назад
Dear author, seek Justin Sung and maybe dialogue with him. Or an upload critiquing his work
@sladewilson649
@sladewilson649 Месяц назад
I usually take Kobe Bryant's advice first is to break down the basics then another aspect is understanding that u are not going to get all the knowledge fast unless u are Einstein, having a long term view helps a lot And what's makes important is space repetition When i learn something i try to map everything, gimme all you got about this thing, usually a takes a month of videos and books from that u kind of understand Maybe 5% of everything but that exorcise demons and make your mind relax , its like saying to your mind , that's a lot of things to lear however it's not impossible, than you break down the basics and start leaning each small topic everyday , if you learned something today you revise same day next week and you keep adding more things, revising is way easier than learning from scratch so you keep spacing and adding more things every week . For me that helped a lot Especially bcz i got a terrible memory
@f_USAF-Lt.G
@f_USAF-Lt.G 11 месяцев назад
Your still saying that Deconstruction is used while leaving the complexity as originally intact. With "Deconstruction" you break it down into the scientific method for reverse engineering, but that still applies the scientific methods for observation, connectivity and change notation, as well as all testing (localized, remote, physical). That philosophy is an invaluable asset in learning... And, was developed much more recently than the ancient philosophies. (🤔1980's ?) Have a quick look sometime 😊
@vijaygopal9557
@vijaygopal9557 4 месяца назад
This is such a helpful video and was just what I was looking for - Its simple, to the point, uncluttered, research-backed and so applicable. Like another subscriber has commented - you’re a gift to all those who want to better their learning skills. Thank you for the work you do
@Papepipucho
@Papepipucho 4 месяца назад
So I play a lot of online games. Some games I have like 50-60 hotkeys including custom macros. Then I'd remap everything and have to learn everything again but doing it a different way - different key placements etc. I would simply clear everything and start with one. I would practice that one for a little while before adding a second. Then i would weave the two together and become more fluent in it. Then after i'd add 3, 4 etc. Putting things into practice is important, I think. I am open to change how I do things after each failure. After a session I would have memorized all the new key placements for the most part, of course it would take a little more practice to get super fluent after adding such a large amount but it didn't take very long for me. I've applied this approach to most things not just games ( i thought a game example would make more sense since the video used a game example) and I seem to retain things a lot easier doing that. Maybe its the stimuli of doing things in practice, or perhaps putting what you learned with the more complex parts that does it.
@codesur
@codesur 5 месяцев назад
Great video! Thank you. I wonder if this technique is still valid in the long term. In the chat, lines seem to converge. And on the other way around, what if you can't afford/spend many sessions?
@XimCines
@XimCines 11 месяцев назад
In my group I suck at Starcraft although I am not the worst. I suck, especially at reading the battle, maybe this approach can help me to be better.
@primera04
@primera04 11 месяцев назад
"playing starcraft for example...." *instantly clicks away from the video*
@cobalius
@cobalius 11 месяцев назад
well there comes the power of reviews, meta-planning and micro unit testing. You could actually set up the smallest complex scenario to learn a micro unit skill. In chess that would be through mixed tactical riddles with varying but increasing difficulties, where you would have to find an effective way of decision-making before going on to reason through to an answer for a more specific tactic kind. Then there're meta-plans for moba games for example, where you learn to become better at deciding when strategic changes need to be made and to which strageties.. that's then usually the topic within team reviews of the gameplay, because individually you may lack the vision for your play /craft / etc. This thought pattern can fit anywhere, coding, social relationships, it's an abstract method. And the skill rotation aspect you're mentioned is just the icing on the cake.. And ADHDpedia has suggested that aim even some years ago already, so skill rotation is a high-value skill-learning aspect, because ADHD people generally care about efficiency, afaik.
@_Itachi_240_
@_Itachi_240_ 5 месяцев назад
This video is packed with great takeaways! While taking notes helps, sometimes an automated summary would be great for active learning. Any recommendations?
@emm__jayy
@emm__jayy 11 месяцев назад
Any suggestions on how to imply this technique to minimise calculation errors in my math exam? All suggestions are warmly welcomed
@carlossemedo368
@carlossemedo368 11 месяцев назад
Oooooh...there's sources. Checking them out, subscribed already.
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