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A Simplified Explanation of Why The Income & Allianz Deal is Suddenly Off 

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All of a sudden, on 14 October, it’s announced that the Income Insurance and Allianz deal was blocked. So, what happened, and why are we hearing things like “Section 88” or even the Co-operative Societies Liquidation Account (CSLA)?
Mr Edwin Tong’s full speech: • NTUC Income-Allianz de...
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@dl703
@dl703 4 дня назад
This whole video missed the most important point. After the merger, Allianz will be returning $1.85B over 3 years after acquiring 51% for $2.2B of NTUC Insurance. Allianz will now be able to access $943m of this amount. This essentially is corporate raiding. In effect, it has only paid $1.25B ($2.2b-0.943m) for it to become the majority shareholders. The question everyone should be asking is: which individuals are benefiting from this ?
@HKG-gq4kp
@HKG-gq4kp 4 дня назад
This exactly.
@xxxcool2565
@xxxcool2565 4 дня назад
Every one of both Allianz and Income shareholder lo. Who else? If you are Imcome mgmt, would you say no? I will push and call the gov to accept the proposal, get my millions then off on my retirement from corporate!
@loyckfiona
@loyckfiona 4 дня назад
Right pocket to left pocket to middle pocket.
@MO-hk9ko
@MO-hk9ko 4 дня назад
Well if Allianz is paying net 1.25b to acquire 51% of Income and if 51% share of Income is worth net 1.0b then how? It's a premium that Allianz pays.
@HKG-gq4kp
@HKG-gq4kp 4 дня назад
@@MO-hk9ko Would our MCCY Minister highlight the planned capital reduction as one of primary issues leading to the Gov block if Allianz have commited to paying a premium equal to what they will receive subsequently? Surely he has all the info.
@internetninja773
@internetninja773 5 дней назад
I did the test, pulled my 5yo & 4yo to listen. 5yo understood the vid, 4yo didnt understand anything. u guys are good....
@HaziqConnect
@HaziqConnect 5 дней назад
Simplest explanation - Election coming. Try again later.
@That7Days79
@That7Days79 5 дней назад
😅
@ocswoodlands
@ocswoodlands 5 дней назад
To me my election voting is simply based on 1 issue. Abolishment of cpf sa post 55. I don't really care about anything else as the rest of stuff doesn't hit my pocket
@krisli9614
@krisli9614 5 дней назад
Yea akan datang… to be continue like old movies
@btbt2206
@btbt2206 2 дня назад
I am not the wiser and still don't get it! How is the 1.85b that Allianz returns to income shareholders bad for shareholders or Singaporeans? If Allianz don't return the $1.85b, wat does that do for Income shareholders or Singaporeans? Can some finance experts here pls enlighten me?
@Clc760
@Clc760 2 дня назад
The individual who initiated the idea unofficially among the team is the culprit. The scheming one will never leave any mark to be legally implicated. The scapegoat is the one who officially brought up the idea and recorded in the minutes.
@SamStab007
@SamStab007 4 дня назад
They approved the deal then block the deal and said they acted in good faith. I also believe pigs can fly.
@leanne2330
@leanne2330 4 дня назад
Who THEY?
@hugohabicht9957
@hugohabicht9957 3 дня назад
@@leanne2330Think
@blacksheepshepherd
@blacksheepshepherd 2 дня назад
Pigs do fly.. check out the pork and ham from your local ntuc supermart.. 😂🤣
@blacksheepshepherd
@blacksheepshepherd 2 дня назад
Ownself check ownself, ownself block ownself... 😂😂🤣
@colinchia5318
@colinchia5318 3 дня назад
Who exactly has initiated this deal and why it was initiated in the first place.The discussion seems to have reached a very advanced stage.
@MO-hk9ko
@MO-hk9ko 5 дней назад
Income is over capitalized. Allianz pays for it nonetheless but subsequent reduces Income's capital match its scale (to achieve the right ROE). Everyone is harping on the reduction but ignoring the initial overpayment...... There is a lot of trapped capital in Income when compared to it's annual profit. So you either return capital to shareholders (proposed by Allianz) or upscale your business massively to deploy the excess capital. But how do you grow massively and profitably is no easy feat......😢 Click like if you umderstand
@elilo5867
@elilo5867 5 дней назад
the Ah Lianz deal is off because she not chio enough
@hhspore
@hhspore 4 дня назад
Blue cat is an expert in explaining complex ah lian deals. Good job !
@Oldlee-g6r
@Oldlee-g6r 5 дней назад
Election coming mah .
@thomaskiang3751
@thomaskiang3751 4 дня назад
Is all about profit earning how to draw out, thank for the explanation.
@noproblematallmate
@noproblematallmate 2 дня назад
Mr Tan Kin Lian was the CEO of NTUC Income for 30 years until 2007. They never recovered from that.
@hotncoolapps3450
@hotncoolapps3450 5 дней назад
Essentially, Allianz buys 51% stake for $2bil & then later, returns $1.85bil to the shareholders - Allianz gets 51%, NE 49% of $1.85bil. Essentially, Allianz would hv just paid $1.075bil for the 51% stake & NE shareholders get $0.925bil. Who are the NE shareholders who will benefit?
@xxxcool2565
@xxxcool2565 5 дней назад
The biggest benefactor of this deal is Allianz.
@yiklinkhoo
@yiklinkhoo 5 дней назад
Yes. Allianz would just “swallow” a large chunk of the $2bil that should have benefitted Singaporeans. I am glad we have the courage to stop this rather than just push forward & defend this bad deal.
@riser7795
@riser7795 5 дней назад
Whoever is in Income senior management that gives the green light for the deal is sus as hell
@MO-hk9ko
@MO-hk9ko 5 дней назад
Well you can also say that Allianz overpays for the initial deal and with the capital returned puts Income at the correct value. Like over trade value when buying a new car.
@edmundyhee7687
@edmundyhee7687 5 дней назад
Allianz still benefited from this.. check their stock price ..
@rtim9929
@rtim9929 4 дня назад
Income parent get paid 2.2b to sell 49% stake. After selling still got a windfall? Existing policy holders kena chop? Or its goverment money
@vincecarlo
@vincecarlo 5 дней назад
All Thanks to PUBLIC OUTCRY n OPPOSITION Push Back
@tanalvin8398
@tanalvin8398 4 дня назад
The government also did their job la. A country is not just run by opposition and public outcry.
@johnchua5369
@johnchua5369 4 дня назад
They only did their job after the outcry lah.
@hugohabicht9957
@hugohabicht9957 3 дня назад
@@johnchua5369That’s the normal SOP
@noproblematallmate
@noproblematallmate 2 дня назад
​@@johnchua5369 You only outcry because the cow called Jorgy in Australia farted.
@davidwongwantho96
@davidwongwantho96 4 дня назад
Torpedo this stupid deal. Singaporeans will be shortchanged in the end. Sack that idiot for proposing this deal.
@krisli9614
@krisli9614 5 дней назад
MPs say good good and push hard for deal before studying, then public outcry… one “hero” comes along with new story to calm down public. Pay so much for MPs as mouthpiece only. Study 1st, don’t just do what your bosses say lah. Think what, cheerleaders ah!
@loyckfiona
@loyckfiona 4 дня назад
Most sitting inside parliament are YES, YES or mouth shut.
@TayChyehock
@TayChyehock 3 дня назад
@@loyckfiona, In my younger days, I believe the majority vote is correct But as I age wiser, it may not be correct as: A. Some have no idea on their own B. They dun see the importance, hence becomes follower C. Voting against will not have any impact D. Better to agree than disagree and You may add on……
@andrewtan2384
@andrewtan2384 12 часов назад
I like to know where is NTUC heading
@blacksheepshepherd
@blacksheepshepherd 2 дня назад
"Income" and not "Come In" says a lot what they want to achieve from the beginning...
@snowy2875
@snowy2875 4 дня назад
Seriously is it only me don't understand what blue cat is explaining... Can blue cat make one video very easy for people to understand what is the whole story from how it started and how it ends and why it will end, I mean this NTUC income insurance issue shown on TV a few days already.
@letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo
hello, i am from the 4 year old group, it seems you are lost , come join me ...we are all lost
@kakaboo
@kakaboo 4 дня назад
basically someone trying play game to get money out from the deal, when the money wasn't supposed to be there in the first but given as an exception originally
@snowy2875
@snowy2875 4 дня назад
@@kakaboo Oh OK finally understand! Thanks for make it so short but so clear to understand! Hahaha
@kakaboo
@kakaboo 4 дня назад
​@@snowy2875 not that straightforward but is like this if u see u able to understand (1) NTUC Income was originally a co-op, but they faced many restrictions as a co-op, so they converted NTUC Income into Income Insurance back then (convert from co-op into a company). (2) Due to being converted into a co-op, they were holding some $2 billion but when you convert into a company from a co-op you cannot keep that $2 billion. But a special exception was made for them, so that they can make use of that money to continue the "social mission". (3) Suddenly Allianz said able to return some $1.85 billion back to the shareholders. So many people thinking where this money came from originally. This money was from when they was a co-op, and if they still remained a co-op it no one would have been able to touch this $2 billion. That's why all this hoo-ha came about, as the money which was supposed to help continue the "social mission" is now going into someone else's pockets. Disclaimer: I am also not very clear on the full story, this is just what I gotten from this video itself.
@Shirley-o3y
@Shirley-o3y 3 дня назад
Can you talk about the Koel bird (bodoh /noisy bird)?
@scrapyardguy
@scrapyardguy 4 дня назад
because someone remembered how malcom glazer bought manchester united.
@elyewi
@elyewi 5 дней назад
thank you uncle cat for explaining
@anziar3038
@anziar3038 5 дней назад
Yes! Even five year olds can understand, but opposition parties and their followers don't seem to understand. They're either ignorant or deceiving. 😂😂
@hugohabicht9957
@hugohabicht9957 3 дня назад
Bot 🤖?
@AK8901
@AK8901 9 часов назад
What a close shave
@chenghonggoh4746
@chenghonggoh4746 День назад
Lim Boon Heng says the deal will make Income stronger. Making Income stronger by capital reduction. Logic too cheem for us mere mortals to understand.
@Puiz4Life
@Puiz4Life 3 дня назад
NTUC income management not happy not making more money than they are currently making. Need to sell out Singaporeans in the process.
@letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo
can you add one more whisker on each side of the blue cat nose ? then it'll become a spider thank you
@KickbackTra
@KickbackTra 5 дней назад
Do the Pritam Singh case simplified version like explaining to a 5 year old kid
@johnchan6955
@johnchan6955 5 дней назад
I will consult my cat for an opinion.
@NathanealScott
@NathanealScott 5 дней назад
aduh hai... i'm nearly 40 years old already, yet I don't quite understand most of it still.... si gao gao leh me.
@emalejack
@emalejack 4 дня назад
Should sell MRT to the outsider also………
@polarspirit
@polarspirit 4 дня назад
Why call off? Let them buy over lah
@tkyap2524
@tkyap2524 5 дней назад
Is anybody clear on this?
@pov72
@pov72 5 дней назад
Allianz never give us CDC vouchers so we didnt support ma 😂
@george.l2593
@george.l2593 5 дней назад
Basically alliance wants to swallow our money. MAS stopped it *End*
@blacksheepshepherd
@blacksheepshepherd 2 дня назад
@@pov72 I don't want CDC vouchers, i want cash top up. 🤣
@ongchinlam4631
@ongchinlam4631 4 дня назад
Income cannot. Perhaps CPF.ok
@SWTAN-JEFFREY
@SWTAN-JEFFREY 2 дня назад
The recent Inconvenient Question interview of former ceo Tan Kin Lian in Oct 2024, Tan mentioned that NTUC income total assets $40b of which $32b belongs to 1.7m police holders . 80% of $32b is contractual guranteed. 20% is non guranteed amounted to $6b So is it that foreign entity is eyeing the said $6b? Question is why that the Board was brokering the deal was not aware of this?
@Karl-kd6mc
@Karl-kd6mc 3 дня назад
Seems to suggest there's some monkey business going on. There should be an investigation
@TwentyEightBytes
@TwentyEightBytes 5 дней назад
But why will zhen hao chi coffeeshop buy bu hao chi coffeeshop? buy liao later coffeeshop bu hao chi liao
@elginang
@elginang 4 дня назад
In short, someone wants to take out the $ out. 😈 and one is not benefitting from it, u know who.
@housesg5981
@housesg5981 5 дней назад
WAH LAN, THIS PUAH PEI YAO SIU MEOW TALK TALK TALK, STILL DUN UNDERSTANG
@honeygoseyney2421
@honeygoseyney2421 5 дней назад
Skibidi
@zackchoy1969
@zackchoy1969 4 дня назад
International World Class Financial joke ...
@sngtianwan1096
@sngtianwan1096 4 дня назад
A scam!
@johnwong4424
@johnwong4424 5 дней назад
I 60 years old catch no ball😊
@dl703
@dl703 4 дня назад
This whole video missed the most important point. After the merger, Allianz will be returning $1.85B over 3 years after acquiring 51% for $2.2B of NTUC Insurance. Allianz will now be able to access $943m of this amount. This essentially is corporate raiding. In effect, it has only paid $1.25B ($2.2b-0.943m) for it to become the majority shareholders. The question everyone should be asking is: which individuals are benefiting from this ?
@jytan740
@jytan740 4 дня назад
bu hao chi cai png pte ltd
@tridentbloxd
@tridentbloxd 5 дней назад
pin lol
@robingng
@robingng 4 дня назад
Still don't get it. But thank you
@Brother1610-k1u
@Brother1610-k1u 4 дня назад
Video ល្ងង់និយាយហើយមិននិយាយក៏មិនខុសគ្នា leh.
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