*UPDATE: Thank you all for 10k views! Scene/chapter selection has finally been added. Check the description for the timestamps!* Thank you for watching! Additional credits and other stuff are present down here. *PLEASE DON'T HARASS AND/OR WITCHHUNT ANYONE WHO HAPPENS TO BE FEATURED IN THIS VIDEO.* Also I apologize for the spotty audio in this video. It's the best I can do with my current setup. Watch with headphones for the most optimal(?) viewing experience. - SONG LIST: pastebin.com/y3cZJgxf - SOURCES: pastebin.com/ufSwvHz3 _The Sonic Boom story might not be over yet._ If any additional info comes out about the cartoon's/the games' development, I'll keep you all notified on my Twitter [@Paper_Rag]. I might even make an additional follow-up video about it if there happens to be enough new info to warrant it or something. Special thanks to all my subs, mutuals, and friends for sticking by [especially to my gf @allzmae - her support and critiques throughout this video's production were invaluable]. Big thanks to Sonic Paradise and Derek Crumb/Tootuff Fan for all the Sonic Synergy info, and thanks to the people [whose names I will keep anonymous for the sake of their privacy] who I contacted for additional new info as well, even if those attempts ended up being fruitless. Art at 7:32 and the 3D render at 55:30 were created by me, with the latter using the Sonic Forces rig created by TheBlueBlur. The Riders!Sonic thinking emoji: www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/768eqc/3d_render_thinking/ If there's anyone else that I need to credit, please inform me and I'll update this comment with said info. Anyways, this video has been in the making for a long time. I really need a break after this. See you all in the next video, whenever that is. ~Palette
Your profile pic is ironic, given that Jaleel White voiced Sonic for the 3 animated "Sonic The Hedgehog" TV series made by Dic Entertainment, "Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog", "Sonic The Hedgehog"(AKA "Sonic Sat AM"), and "Sonic Underground".
Finally watched the whole thing. I can tell that Sonic Synergy could've ended up been a pretty neat spin off if Sega didn't screw over and treat Big Red Button like absolute trash, and meddle too much in the development of their game (and this is post-Yuji Naka Sega we're talking here, imagine if he was involved, lol), and I'm really bummed that we're probably never getting a third season of the show, it started to get really good in season 2, alas, the games (especially Rise of Lyric) tainted the show's reputation, which was probably why CN moved it to Boomerang, and ended up quietly putting the kibosh on it afterwards. If there's any entity to be blamed for the fall of the Boom property, it's Sega themselves, they really mishandled the whole thing, and it ended up biting them in the ass, and turned Sonic into a laughing stock once again, at least, until a group of romhackers, fan game creators and internet animators saved their IP with the Mania games and animated shorts. Overall, this was an excellent retrospective, you've put tons of effort and research into it, and it shows, bravo. ^^
Part of me would’ve really loved to see what Sonic Synergy Could’ve been. Now, I’m just pissed that Sega pulled this shit again. First it was 06, and now Boom. Both of these games could’ve been Phenomenal if they were given the TLC they deserved. I wouldn’t be surprised if a group one day remade ROL into what it should’ve been. I have been losing faith for sonic these past few years. The only reason they are still afloat was because of Christian Whitehead and the Mania team. Because Sega would’ve been fucked if it was just Forces being released. If anything, it shows that sonic fans do a better job at making a sonic game, a true sonic game than Sega. I really hope they get there shit together for the 30th Anniversary, or I just might leave Sega. Not Sonic as a character, but just ignore Sega and focus on other sonic content out there. Okay, Rant Over. Sorry if this sounded bratty or some shit like that. I just needed a place to vent today.
I agree. I hope big red button are in a better state right now as I heard they are still operating. Sega is indeed the reason why boom failed and they lost a money in 2015 as karma.
What I always admired about Sonic as a character and a franchise is its persistence. Any other franchise with such heavy blows to the extent of Sonic 2006 and Sonic Boom would be dead in the water right now, but Sonic isn’t. The Sonic franchise nowadays has a successful movie and a upcoming sequel, a upcoming Netflix series, a ongoing comic book, and financially successful games. If Sonic as a franchise ever has another bump in the road, I hope that it will get back up again and keep following its rainbow. EDIT: SEGA’s problem in Sonic Boom’s development was poor planning and communication. They should have planned what they wanted the Sonic reboot to be before even commissioning a western studio. But I guess hindsight is 20/20.
I still remember how back when Sonic 06 was released that people were saying Sonic as an IP should just die. Back then, it honestly felt like Sonic really was better off dead and it felt like that was actually going to happen
Honestly, the difference between Sonic Boom and the movie just shows that Sega ruins Sonic all by themselves. If Sega just let Red Button make the game they wanted without the Wii u exclusive or unnecessary changes in story and tone, it may have been a similar to the movie.
@@dontegraves5051 - it was because of their deal with Sega that Sega had to fill a slot for the next game, which being they had to put Sonic Boom in, thus ruining Sonic Boom's development. But I am saying "also" because Nintendo was the cause, but everything Sega was doing was on their hands
No. If Sega would have properly supported Big Red Button and made effort to communicate, then the game may have had a chance. But this didn't happen obviously. Sega failed to support the developers entirely. Nintendo isn't responsible for games that they don't make. The blame lies 100% with Sega. The fact of the matter is that there were already existing Wii U exclusives from other third party companies. None of them were handles the way Sega handled Sonic Boom. There was no excuse for their misguidance.
Pretty much, that deal was the worst thing to happen to this series Sonic Synergy had a great chance to be on par with something like SA2, but Sega yet again blew it
This is an AMAZING retrospective on Sonic Boom. I'm surprised there aren't more views. I already knew some stuff about the game (The Wii U contract, concept art, overworking, etc.) but I still learnt a good chunk of stuff and it was all presented greatly. I'm even more sorry for Big Red Button and I'm more saddened this game never reached close to its potential. It could have been a good spinoff that could have sat beside the main series. It is good to know BRB seems to be alright now despite the MASSIVE disaster. But it's still sad a game they had a lot of passion for became one of the biggest messes in the gaming industry due to factors out of their control. Thanks for putting this together dude.
41:32-41:40 there's one part you forgot, even if Sonic Boom was at a decent place, anyone with dish network sattlites couldn't even watch the show due to the 2014 Dish-Warner dispute that happened around the time of the series premiere and since dish network was a major television provider, you could see how much impact it had on the ratings.
@@LasagaMan nicely clarified. I never saw Boom on CN, my first dose came from Hulu and Netflix. Pretty much immediately loved it. There were directions I wished they would've taken, with a few more action packed episodes than we got. But with Season 3 gearing up to air on NF, I'm about to resubscribe. Would rather give my money straight to the dev department than the streaming service tho. They're worth it.
@@quintencornelissen2274 probably not anymore, no. Last I checked(sometime last year) they were 'working on' a s3, as well as Sonic Rangers, and some other show (I can't recall). Probably outdated info, it's been a year and no new word to my recollection. Unfortunate.
I feel that with enough care a new sonic boom for the more powerful PC (with maybe switch port of some kind) could be fantastic. More open level design, consistent humour and more combat options could help this sub franchise thrive. P.S. I was one of the few that liked the redesigns.
This is a fantastic retrospective! The editing, the flow, and the script are all so well done, this is honestly one of the best Sonic retrospectives/videos I've seen in general. Everything about this video is very well paced and really informative. Also, your editing really is excellent, and your use of effects and choice of images/video clips are super on point. Great work, definitely subscribed.
I'm not a game developer, not even a big Sonic fan, but I had to pause for some minutes at the moment of the Wii U exclusivity deal notification because it genuinely infuriated me. Imagine being a developer working on what's perhaps the most ambitious Sonic game since Sonic Adventure and doing the best you can to deliver the best product, just for the big company to tell you that you'll have to make big compromises because it'll be an exclusive to the weakest console (by far) of its generation. It is outrageous.
Sonic Boom The Series is honestly one of my favorite pieces of media out of the franchise. It has some of the funniest comedy I had ever watched and watching it today I still get a few good laughs. I think it has the best version of Amy, with her being more of her own person and that she has layers to her personality and that it isn’t just “I love Sonic.” Hell, I’m pretty sure Sonic and Amy were dating and the writers weren’t allowed to completely saying it because Sega were being stinkers again.
The TV show was great, and I love sonic boom. The character redesigns are the best they've ever been and it could've really become something if Sega weren't such assholes to the developers...
Did the higher ups at SEGA not learn ANYTHING from the last time they screwed with a big Sonic game’s production and deadline with Sonic 06?!, and this time an entire other company got caught in the crossfire. Hearing about what happened behind the scenes with Sonic Boom and what it could have been has made me really upset, we could’ve had an amazing experience but instead all that stuff happened. At least the Sonic franchise and BigRedButton have gotten back on their feet now a days, and hopefully things will get even better.
FINALLY! Someone explains and agrees how the redesigns were NOT total trash. I would've preferred Sega try to revitalize Sonic Boom, only if they were to let someone else handle it they should stay out of the way. Like how Bethesda was told to not get more directly involved with Doom Eternal than they had. And it worked! Doom Eternal was f-ing awesome! Also, the sports tape was to imply friction resistance for exercising....I think.
Yeah, I paused the video and genuinely thought why the hell people would hate the redesigns, the only one I see as really “bad” is knuckles, since it’s way too far of a departure But even then it’s a good design in the sense of representing what his role is
It does feel weird that Boom is just gone, but with stuff like Modern, Classic, Movie and now Prime Sonic all co-existing, maybe we can get some sort of "Spiderverse" thing for Sonic and see the return of Boom that way, heck maybe even see AoStH and SatAM Sonic again. Doubt they'll ever bring back the brand as a whole, but I wouldn't mind seeing these versions of the characters live on. Oh well, at least they immigrated Sticks to the main canon.
While I personally like boom Amy rose and Sonic (I don’t like knuckles and tails) what made these characters more expressive weren’t their models but rather the fact red button just knew how to make expressive characters. basically is it if the designs weren’t hate it they wouldn’t be as expressive unless red button themselves Animating
This is a tragedy, and it's all Sega's fault for meddling with the project too much. Edit: Honestly, you're right about that, it could've been alot worse. If the game was released in that state for the other platforms aswell, it would've been the Sonic '06 catastrophe all over again.
I'm actually really glad I got this game as I experienced one of the most poorly designed and rushed games in history. I do pity the developers though and I bet they feel just as bad as we do playing it.
This was really well edited and very enjoyable I’ve never played the boom games but I’ve heard so many awful things about them so it was very interesting to see an in-depth look into them
This was a delight to watch from beginning to end. I could definitely tell a ton of research went into this, and your editing is still as top notch as ever. Proud of ya, pally. Keep up the good work.
Even though I absolutely loathe Rise of Lyric, I just hate bashing it….I feel so bad for every single person that worked on the game….they did the best that they could do….imagine if the game was great….the Sonic community most likely would’ve been more positive towards the Boom series….I know for a goddamn fact that there’s a really solid game underneath the dumpster fire that is ROL.
Just like how kids are growing up and saying they loved 06, kids will grow up saying Boom was their favourite part of the franchise and that they want a revival. Mainly the cartoon to be fair but im sure there's... one or two who will defend Rise of Lyric. Its a never ending cycle but I hope it gets some appreciation for what it tried to do
I don't know how I knew someone made a retrospective, I just knew someone would have by now, glad I found it, great job. I remember being really excited that there'd be a modern platformer from some Jak and Daxter deba, and it looked interesting. Then I remember hearing about a bunch of people leaving Big Red Button and tales about how bad the game was.
With all the Sonic Rangers leaks and stuff I'm praying that it works like Sonic Synergy somewhat. I know it may be open world but Synergy sounded really damn good and a transfer from that to open world sounds fun
Didn't think a Sonic boom video would both make me laugh my butt off and almost make me cry. You did an excellent job showing what was happening behind the scenes.
All Sega had to do with the Nintendo deal was to make a spinoff for either the wii u or 3ds with shattered crystal and leave rise of lyric out of the Nintendo deal and let big red button work on the platforms that would run well with cryengine and we could’ve gotten a great game.
Damn now I wish I could have played Sonic Synergy. That actually looked really cool. Thanks for this awesome video, it was really well paced and enjoyable throughout.
I'm about to outdo everyone who commented on this video. So to celebrate Sonic Boom's 5 year anniversary today, *WARNING: Hold on to your ass. Long and passionate comment about Sonic Boom incoming!* 5 years. . . Jesus. I can't believe it's been exactly a half decade ago that the subset franchise that is Sonic Boom was unleashed upon us into to the world. I swear it only feels like a couple yesteryears or so. . . Sonic Boom . . .still has a lot of untapped potential; I can not stress that enough, especially via social media. I already knew the hole history behind Sonic Boom, and the more I'm reminded of it, the more I become distraught by it. If only the 3 game partnership with Nintendo never happened. If that very derision didn't occur, things might of gone a bit differently, and probably for the better. *THANK FUCKING CHRIST* BigRedButton didn't go belly up after Boom: Rise of Lyric's release; they don't deserve it, and I'm very pleased that they're in a better place now. It's a shame that thanks to the reception of Boom: RoL (despite me thinking the game is no were near as bad as people are making it out to be, and is a textbook definition of an average 5/10 video game), a decent amount of people didn't give the other factions of this subset franchise a chance. Indeed Sonic Boom has a hole is no were near as bad as it seems, in fact its mostly the opposite. Despite the mixed results of it all, the stuff that were good about Sonic Boom were REALLY good: Boom: Fire and Ice, Dash 2: Sonic Boom, the criminally short lived Archie comic book,and of course its primary faction, the TV show (especially season 2). Overtime the series proved that it can improve upon itself and can reach a full redemption arc from Boom: RoL's disastrous launch if SEGA stuck to their guns and kept going with it. I mean, shit, despite Cartoon Network's piss poor treatment towards the TV show, it managed to be nominated a few time and actually won some! The show was finally starting to find its footing in season 2. Plus thanks to all that, Boom Sonic and Sticks got the honor of receiving art from Yuji Uekawa, Sticks got to appear in non Boom material like Mario and Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games, Sonic Runners, JP website Sonic Channel's Sonic Comic line, the upcoming Sonic the Hedgehog: Battle Racers board game, and probably a few other I'm forgetting ATM, and Boom Sonic appearing along side with Modern and Classic Sonic in promo art (they still use that promo art one their RU-vid channel banner to this day). So why the hell stop there!? Noticing your pinned comment, and the sentence, "The Sonic Boom story might not be over yet", I. . .concur. . .I believe that there is actually still hope that it'll return. Despite the recent interview with SEGA's Directer of Animation, Yuki Kusumoto, if their's enough demand for Sonic Boom to come back, then it possible. The growing following the show that it's been garnering recently on the social media as mentioned in this video is evident of that. Plus the recent DVD, Amazon and iTunes releases of the show, if it does well in sales, could potentially bring it back as well. So for those who want Boom to come back, *GO BUY THE SHOW ON DVD(s), AMAZON, AND/OR iTUNES!!! DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO LET THEM KNOW YOU WANT MORE VIA SOCIAL MEDIA OR ANY OTHER WAY TO CONTACT THEM!!!* I also noticed that the show is available to purchase on RU-vid as well, so go buy that too to show support if you like. Not a 100% guarantee it'll work, but it's worth a shot. Ever since 2015, SEGA and Sonic Team has found this new found love for the fans than ever before, stuff listed in 54:13 and non-Sonic related things SEGA has been doing is evident of this, hence why I think it's possible. If it does return for a third season, I'm hoping that SEGA would either consider putting the show on a different channel and/or Netflix instead of Cartoon Network. Or maybe take the Sonic Mania Adventures & Team Sonic Racing: Overdrive route they're currently going and produce a ongoing series of shorts to garner more interest. Start with either of these two options and then expand to other mediums from there, instead of blowing their load from the very start last time. Doing this could potentially set a special spark that ignites a second boom. I would definitely like to see more stuff out the Boom series, outside from the show; more games that are good, merch, a IDW comic book series, . . .the possibilities are endless! Hopefully they'll consider bringing Boom back someday so it can finally reach the redemption arc it oh-so aims to achieve. Jumping back to Boom: RoL, I'm one of those crazy fuckers that want to see a remake; the "re-imagining" kind of remake. A remake that's basically what the game could of been if the 3 game partnership with Nintendo never occurred. A remake that has almost all of the scrapped plans/concepts talked about in this video and combines it with what was in the original. *Sonic Boom: Synergy* anyone? In this day in age of remakes, I agree with Clement and think it would be way more interesting that SEGA do remakes of bad Sonic games, and make them good. It's risky, very ballsy, but different, and it could possibly work. It could also shut up fans that complain about this current decade of Sonic playing it safe (despite Sonic Lost World, in terms of gameplay, the entirety of Boom, and the custom avatar from Sonic Forces are the antitheses of playing it safe, but whatever). The recent Sonic the Hedgehog P-06 fan remaster is a good example if this. What do you guys think? Told ya this was long. Thanks for making this video! A well put together video that quite honestly deserves more views! Happy 5th Birthday to the Sonic Boom franchise! A franchise that deserves a second shot at redemption. Now will you excuse me, I'll be continuing to ask the good folks at SEGA and the Sonic PR team to bring Boom back.
@@goiabexp Nintendo has zero control over the development of a third party title. If they had control, Rayman Legends would've stayed exclusive and Crysis would never have been cancelled on Wii U. The failure of Sonic Boom was due to Sega's poor communication and their push to ship out an unfinished, broken product.
You can add another casualty to this: The death of the Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 remakes. Apparently, Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric's failure caused the supposedly remakes of Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 to be cancelled in 2015.
That was really well done. The development cycle truly fascinating. If only Sega wasn’t run by entirely by tards, then we would have gotten an amazing game. My favorite part was when you showed Chris Chan peppers spraying the GameStop employe because he was mad about blue arms. I hope that the fans can remake Sonic Synergy so we can experience what the game was supposed to be.
This whole ordeal genuinely makes me sad on so many layers. It's already depressing to have your work torn up to shreds by a publisher, but to have it shat on by obvious stupidity? I wouldn't be surprised if Sega was sued for this. Some scummy tactics aren't even in the video. They Forced BRB to add Shadow into the game, destroyed the origins plot line because they might want to do it in the future, forced in more fast-paced segments. I wouldnt have this much remorse for the developers if it wasn't for this stellar editing. Need ya back man.
Looking at this, it’s just kinda sad to see what we could’ve got. But all because of a partnership, it got morphed into a complete shitshow that nearly/across completely ruined Sonics success.
Truly amazing work from you :D The whole is well-researched, well-edited and overall entertaining to watch You should be proud of yourself for this work hehe
Because they needed 3 games for the Nintendo deal and only 2 were filled before they decided they had to make BigRedButton’s developing game take the 3rd one.
it's funny returning here After Sonic Movie 2 became pratically the best Sonic thing since Generations And yeah ... i still hate Sega for rushing Sonic sinergy. They ruined a producg with sooo much potential
Well shit I'm glad I watched this. I feel so much sympathy for BigRedButton now. It's commendable that they managed to go through with all of... this... and came out mostly okay in the end. I really feel like they tried their absolute best, and that's great. Wow, now if anything could make me like Sonic Boom as a franchise more than the cartoon, it was definitely this video. Thank you so much, it was very informative ! Ngl now I feel like going to find myself some Sonic Boom plushies, haha ! I do like their design and energy, minus all the unnecessary athletic tape-
what i would give to see a release of sonic synergy the way it was originally intended. it honestly sounds awesome and as much as i love the boom cartoon its just tragic that such a cool game concept was sacrificed to make it. i wish we could have had both.
If there is someone to blame for the failure of Sonic Boom, blame the guy who suggested to make the animated series in the middle of the production of Sonic Synergy.
Really good video with very nice editing, only thing is I think the music volume was a little too high, it was sometimes a bit hard to hear some parts of what you said. Other than that really enjoyed it.
I started a script for a new video not too long ago. Been trying to juggle doing that with practicing and studying animation and all that jazz. I'll try to post more soon.
I can just imagine the room as the SEGA rep broke the news. SEGA: "Okay guys, this is BIG. We are so excited to be here, to let you know, that your beautiful PC and next-gen console game is now locked in as being a Wii-U Exclusive!" Crickets: *chirp* BigRedButton: "Haha that's funny. Got us good. Now whatever news you have to tell use can't be that bad, what was it?" SEGA: "No... Really that's the news." *a developer in the back of the room that hasn't slept in 4 days working on PC-grade LODs fall of his chair after suffering quadruple heart attacks*
I used to blame BigRedButton for the blunder that was "Rise Of Lyric", but it was actually SEGA and their stupid-ass business practices getting in the way of the company's development of an original Sonic title... As much as I'm OK with Boom not picking up in the long run, BigRedButton deserved better...
33:22 It's painful how familiar this is all sounding to the way the Sonic Fandom is now, what with Sonic Colors Ultimate and all. Some things never change, do they?
Incredible video. Personally the games never interested me too much but the show was incredible. Season 2 was full of high quality jokes and episodes, and it's just so sad that the games and ultimately sega are the reasons the show died.
It must really suck for a creator who put all their blood and sweat into a project at first they were passionate about only for fans, critics, and the company they were hired to work for only to bash them with nothing but negativity. All that talent down the drain just because the execs would not listen.
Plus it can be even more appreciated. I feel like because of how Sega and Nintendo affected Rise of Lyric during development, Shattered Crystal and Fire and Ice are Boom games that people say they are underrated(Good thing they didn't wound up the same path like the Wii U one) even though wether you like it or not. It was received better. I gotta say it's influence is really similar to Sonic the Hedgehog 2006.
A fellow YTPer/Sonic fan, eh? After listening to both Matt Mcmuscles and your coverage of Rise of Lyric, I feel pretty guilty about putting the blame on BigRedButton for covering up for Sega’s shortcomings. I’m glad that they’re doing well right now. They deserve all the support after that Sonic Boom fiasco. P.S. What’s your opinion on the Sonic Movie now? I’ve noticed that this video was made before the redesign, and I want to know what your updated thoughts are.
i like the direction it's headed towards now, but i'm still cautious about it [though if everything i'm hearing from the premieres and advance screenings so far is right we shouldn't have anything to worry about] i'll prolly make a full vid on it once it comes out here [so by march, it comes out around the end of this month over here]
Palette I think it’ll be a good time. Nothing amazing, but it’s not trying to be that. It could be me having the Sonic Boom blues, but I really like this design with blue arms rather than tan arms. Hell I’m making a YTP of the OVA in celebration of the movie’s release.
Rise of lyric went down in flames and took the rest of sonic boom with it. It's a shame. This budding spin off series was killed before it even had a chance and a budding passionate development team fell apart along with it.
Honestly I find it a shame that Rise of Lyric has such a bad reputation Buggy as it was, I had fun playing, and honestly the bugs sorta enchanted the experience with the ridiculous things I could find out of bounds and showing these to my friends when they came over. May not necessarily been a “good game”, but I feel the amount of hate it gets to be a bit much.
This is one of the best videos I’ve ever watched. Top notch editing, no boring moments, informative and makes me see a new light on Sonic Boom. Definitely subscribed
While it's a shame that Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric and Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystals turned out the way they did (because of Sega's stupid 3 game partnership with Nintendo for Wii U and 3DS), I enjoyed the Cartoon heck I think it's better than Sonic Underground and Sonic X, yes post Sonic Boom saw Sonic Forces I can say that Sonic Mania/Sonic Mania Plus, the IDW comics and the Movie are the most positive to come out of the series and as of this comment. Sonic will be getting a new animated series on Netflix (which is better than having it on a cable tv network being cable tv is dying) and I think having Sonic on Netflix is great because Castlevania is on Netflix, Cuphead is coming to Netflix and there are rumors of Overwatch coming the the same streaming platform. While I don't think Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric is the worst Sonic game (mostly it's a spinoff) it's still bad, I think that Sonic 06 and Sonic Forces are the worst (with Sonic 06 still at number 1 IMO and Sonic Forces tailing behind Sonic 06). All I can say at least Sonic Boom lasted for two season unlike Mega Man: Fully Charged which Mega Man: Fully Charged was Dead on Arrival
51:29 I want to remind everyone. I couldn't even see the episodes unless it was downloaded from a different site. That was how hard it was to find the show episodes.
