We continue our trip to the Bahamas with stops at Daytona, Cocoa Village, Ft. Pierce and West Palm. I get a speeding ticket for going 7 knots per hour.
I lot of the comments on this video are very similar, so I thought I would do a blanket comment to answer most of them. Yes, I know that knots is a measurement of speed, however, many of our viewers do not know that, hence a generic title that everyone understands. Although I do not believe I deserved a ticket, there is no way I would waste more time fighting it. By the way, I misspoke when I said the ticket was for $350. I contacted the court and it was only $115. As far as the size of my wake, there are many videos where I show the wake of our boat at our cruising speed of 10 knots. It is, at most 2 feet. At 7.5 knots it is less than a foot. My no-wake, idle speed, is 6 knots. Regarding the threat of being arrested for a speeding ticket, the officer said that I could be arrested for reckless endangerment, which is why I did not protest the ticket. Do not take any of my comments as an indication that I do not support the police. We have several friends who are cops and we fully understand that the overwhelming majority are good people trying to do the best for the community. I debated whether to show the footage of the ticket at all. I try to keep our videos upbeat and positive. But, I always try to show the realities of owning a boat. This is part of the reality. Now, back to the story ...
I had the exact same thing happen to my Dad and I on July 4, 1976, in Jupiter of all places. The officer claimed we damaged his patrol BOAT, and he had to call another officer , to come bring him to catch us. We wanted to go see the damage and photograph it, took us an hour to head back south, to see the patrol boat. The damage consisted of a small sag in his aluminum rub rail, caused by electrolysis. When my Dad heard my comment , he uttered a couple of choice words. He was immediately placed in handcuffs and brought to the Palm Beach county Jail. Cost $350 to bail him out that evening. We hired an attorney to appear in court for us. He charged $50 to appear, the fine was $50, he sent the balance of. $250 to us in New Orleans. At the time we had a 1973 Hatteras Yacht Fish. I corresponded with you, several months ago. Your friend in Pennsylvania, bought our next boat, a 1979 58 Hatteras cockpit Motor Yacht.
I'd be very tempted to try and fight that bull-crap ticket, you have enough videos _showing_ how much wake you throw. That was some nice jazz at that bar in Cocoa!
Yes same here. I hate things like this. Police should be working for us to keep us safe. Not working against us. But I see the same here. mobile speeding camera's are used most of the time at places that are perfectly safe and just ask for higher speeds than allowed instead of putting them par example in our street once a month where 30 km/h is allowed but most drive slower because in some area's even 30 is too fast. and 1 or 2 times a day some idiot will drive past with maybe 60. that is super dangerous and should be handled. But no that will not cover the costs. even worse. will not generate money. The place they put it is along a road without side roads. the few locations with side roads have traffic lights and mounted camera's no problems there. but in between there is nothing. no pedestrians, no houses nothing. just straight open safe road. two lanes each side with a wide 4 meter grass patch in between and on the outsides grass too and there only 80 is allowed and 95% will drive at speeds between 90 and 95 because it is and feels safe and natural. But there they will hide a camera halfway to just get money. Also got some parking fines in my life that were not correct. Objected to them with a letter that explained why they were not correct and why it was ok to park there ( signs not visible behind plants, signs not repeted after crossings etc. and in most cases they were removed from my name. Just make sure that the effort does not get to much compared to the fine to pay. unless it is just out of principle.
I see Jupiter Island has discovered a new profit center. Picking on passing yachts is better than even out of state cars. They figure if you can afford a yacht you won’t bother coming back to Florida to fight a $350 ticket. I’m sure they are right too. Hell, it would cost more in travel than the ticket costs. What a scam.
Jupiter Island really needs the money. I'm sure Tiger Woods and the rest of the PGA stars that live there don't pay any taxes on their 20 million estates. What a crock. And that beer looked really tasty!
@@carlthor91 your correct.I got a ticket in the exact same spot 60 minutes did that special. It was a speed trap and it gives Police a bad name. BTW, I am not a speeder which is why it still pisses me off.
I worked for the agency in our state that regulated traffic and marine courts (among others). I was shocked to find out that all of the jurisdictions basically looked at ticket fines as revenue and actually would tell the law enforcement agencies how much money they were expected to bring in, regardless of whether that many people were breaking the law or not. It's ten percent safety, and 90 per cent revenue generation, and that's just the way it is. And, non-residents are always looked at as the safest targets, because they don't vote or live there.
Congrats on the attitude of not letting it ruin your day. As anyone who has driven through the states of Louisiana in past years or Georgia to the present knows: ya gotta pay for those officers and their equipment somehow.
I would take your video, specs of Triton and whatever else is pertinent and go to the local TV news and let them do some investigative journalism. Police departments and Mayors hate when they get caught scamming the public.
I’ve been boating for over 25 years in the south Florida area. I also mind my wake and rules of the road, but I can tell you, no matter how careful you are, ALL marine patrol are assholes, unless its one of their buddies. I would take that clown to court. Safe travels.
I'm glad you have a great time in Cocoa! We live on the Northern end of Cocoa, just N of the 528(beachline) bridge in High Point, on the Indian River. You're right Cocoa Village is amazing!
Speed traps are common revenue sources for small towns here in Florida. First time I have seen this on the water. Another town to avoid here. Oh, welcome to Florida!
I got stopped for going 6 mph on a JET SKI. Mamaroneck, NY Me: 6 mph, Harborclown: 6 mph or no wake, Me: It's a jet ski wake, Harborclown: It does not matter. Mailed "not guilty" 2 months ago, so far, sadly, no answer - already picked my court clothes, 17 century theatre rental. Gopro was rolling
So the law said....Accept this $115 ticket on behalf of the Jupiter police or I will haul you to jail for a misdemeanor. I guess that is what they call legalized extortion. :(
Always be filming ! It got me out of false witness accusations by the authorities that are trying to make their monthly quota on fines ! I show them the replay and they give a warning to save face !
It is always nice when other boaters are using proper passing etiquette. I can't tell you how many sport-fishs have sped past us throwing huge wakes, breaking dishes, knocking over chairs, etc.
Ah, West Palm, I lived around there for about 14 year in total. Peanut Island was a kind of wild place, I see it is a fancy park now. I would like to move back to Lake Worth. I remember a lot of bridges from North Lake Worth Inlet down to Ft. Liquordale. It seemed to take forever in my friend's sailboat, with his little Volvo 3-banger. We couldn't get through one bridge because the current was to strong, and had to wait! I think that was just Jupiter collecting some tax $$ from some Yankees! The same thing happened to us just north of Cape Canaveral, but we didn't get a ticket, we just got followed all the way to the next county to the north.
I love the Sailfish Marina! My boss has his boat on the opposite side of Peanut Island so when we fly him down to Palm Beach we always eat at their restaurant. They have the best conch chowder and cheesy crab omelets! Safe travels.
I live there, and the sign is a bit confusing. It says 25 MPH for boats under 35 ft, No wake for boats over 35 feet. There is a marina there which gets rocked badly as it is hard to see until you are upon it when coming from the North. There is a sign just to the North of the marina, and another one just to the South.
I must have been in a different place. The sign I passed said 25 knots/minimum wake (not no wake). No mention of size. Some towns post wake size requirements, such as less than 15 inches. I think that is a better way to set a standard.
Ed, they are just jealous of your lifestyle. They see your sizable boat and say now here is someone we can throw trumped up charges at. Thats what they call GRS. Guaranteed Revenue Stream. Sorry you had to deal with that nonsense. I have never seen your boat throw a 4’ wake.
Great video as always. FYI -- you never need to say "knots per hour" -- a knot is one nautical mile per hour. Knots per hours is like saying 10 miles per hour per hour. But sounds like you got speed-trapped for sure.
Ed and Lynn that is truly disgusting about the so called speeding ticket we all know it is about revenue enhancements. It may not be practicable for you to challenge the ticket, however for me I would just on principle. I feel bad for you. Now that we know it is only $115 pay the stupid ransom 😩🛫
You need to report this officer for carelessness and harassment!! You clearly NEVER speed or do anything out of line, on any of your video's. This is prime example of how cop's get a bad image.
I got pulled over in my Hatteras 58' in front of the Yacht Basin Marina in Fort Myers........the cop pulled along side of me and was yelling that I rocked boats along the river....he was really pissed......I was going about 9-10 knots.....I missed the no wake sign......I had spoken to him at the marina before, when I identified myself.....he said "carry on". Whew! I guess it saved me what, you said $115? lol
It is easy to miss signs, there are so many. In our case I was only going around 7 knots. As you know, on a 58 that is not going to throw a 4 foot wakes, like he said. Hell, my idle speed is 6 knots.
Another great video. I love those stops along the way and I love sailfish marina. Sorry about the ticket in Jupiter but they have that reputation. One last thing my man, please stop wearing Capri pants and leave those for the ladies.
A minor correction broght on by my CDO - that's the same as OCD, but the letters are in the right order. A knot is one nautical mile per hour - a unit of speed; a knot per hour is one nautical mile per hour per hour - a unit of acceleration.
In the end: Shame on any official abusing his/her power, they will be blamed whenever their time is ready - BUT let's give a HUGE thank-you to those 99+% doing a great job for us every day, being patient and helpful 🏆. Ed, great attitude - as is your motto: Trying not to sink!
Very sorry. I was joking with my people there that they should harass you for no Roger Outs in a long time. I didn’t think they would do that to put the point home. I’ll see what I can do about getting the citation cancelled, but it might be too late now.
You need camera, security type. One pointed backwards, and one forwards. Recording all the time on a loop. The price of that ticket would have just about paid for them.
Hire an attorney maybe he get it down to a non-moving violation like a seatbelt it won't show up on your record that's what I do I live here in Las Vegas I got a commercial driver's license I don't ever let a ticket go on my record
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Arrrrrgggggh! That cop was being a prick. Chica First Mate shoulda tied a 'Roger Out' knot around his miserable little 'dinghy'! Screw dat Captain Sperrys. Nothing can ruin Triton's travels! Enjoyed that happy dance with Chris! LOL... Cheers!
Shouldn't have signed the ticket and don't allow them onboard. If he threatened to arrest you, I know you aren't the type of person to do this, but if someone reading this is, you can legally shoot them. This happened in Florida, and has set federal precedent and stopped title 14 section 89. Supreme court also ruled it legal. Sources below: Daniel Szabo shot at coast guard members trying to board him and was only charged with failure to stop since the boarding was illegal. "A federal jury has found a man accused of firing at a U.S. Coast Guard crew not guilty of both weapons charges handed down in an indictment by a grand jury in September. Daniel Michael Szabo, 41, was facing a possible life prison sentence for charges of trying to kill a Coast Guard officer during a boarding and using a firearm while committing a violent crime. But jurors on April 6 only found Szabo guilty of failing to stop his vessel when ordered to do so by the Coast Guard." "John Bad Elk v. U.S.,177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”
Oh that makes perfect sense, shoot an officer over a speeding ticket and spend 100k to try to prove you are a sane person not committing a crime and shouldn't go to jail for life. To give advice to people in this forum to shoot a police officer is about as low as it gets. You really should seek mental help.
@@jwyzdm Always that one idiot. Funny how these people can't have a conversation without throwing insults. Lets hope my first line caught her attention as this is her style, insult people don't use facts and laws. It's not a "speeding ticket" as at that point it would be a false arrest if he didn't sign the ticket. You really should seek mental help if you think arresting someone over going 7 knots or even giving them a ticket is reasonable. PS There is this thing called public defenders and if you got a lawyer any money spent would be reimbursed when you win in a counter suit, as this is also federal precedent, meaning other judges have to go off this ruling and you would win rather quick as the charges would be dropped before you got a lawyer. You are out of your depth here. It's one thing to not agree with me, you don't see me posting this on other peoples comments, I even state he doesn't seem to be the person to try and do this, but if a cop tries to falsely arrest you, tries to board your boat illegally, legally defend yourself, your family, and your property like any sane person would as ruled by the Supreme court and federal judge in Florida where this video takes place If you wouldn't defend your family and just let them get attacked and arrested, by all means do you, not all of us are like you and once again you don't see me going around posting this on others comments as I get not everyone has my same ideals nor I theirs. Please troll someone else now or I will just block you, thanks.
@@ThatCarGuy "tries to board your boat illegally, legally defend yourself, your family, and your property" it was a speeding ticket dude, a freaking speeding ticket and you are talking guns. Get help, I'll take the block with pride.
@@jwyzdm And once again troll it's not just a speeding ticket if he refused to sign it. The cop would then literally attack and arrest him. Blocked enjoy trolling others, you can not even back up your side with anything but emotion.
I can assure you that a 65’ Hatteras is quite capable of generating 4’ wakes with ease. Whether or not you were at the time is between you and the officer. Chances are he has a dash or body cam. I bet you’d be surprised by the footage. Maybe you could request it with a FOI application? Or chalk it up to operating expenses and enjoy the ride.
@@MyTube4Utoo are you stupid or blind?? They were hammered and at the end of the night they were back on the boat. They got to land by their dingy, how the hell do you think they got back to the boat.
I'll just call it the way it is, the Marine patrol saw a big 65 ft Hatteras yacht and saw dollar signs, and gave you a ticket simply for moving... Unfortunately without video evidence, it's your word against theirs and hard to fight.. you were wise just to pay the fine to move on and forget about it..
Too bad it was not video documented on your GPS electronics to prove them wrong like you said probably a speed trap and that’s what they look for to make Revenue in that area
I get where you are coming from, but you might want to get out of that habit. It's far more common to just say knots as your speed. Saying knots per hour feels redundant redundant in the common marine vernacular. A knot is by itself a unit of speed: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knot_(unit)
"4ft wakes coming over my bow" 😂 at 7 knots? sure buddy. You got that on camera officer? Sounds like bs then threatened jail over 7 knots was just to shut you up. Typical scare tactics for frivolous tickets. Gence why youll never go back through.
