I am a Sunni Muslim Cham. This religion known as Bani Islam has existed for many centuries, tracing its origins to the time when Islam made its way to the Kingdom of Champa from Arab regions. Historically, these people are originally Cham Hindus who incorporated elements of Islam into their Hindu religion, and they are not Cham Muslims who incorporated Hinduism into their Islamic faith. There's a story about this religious blending and why the Cham Bani religion still exists even though it's a small percentage. In earlier times, when Islam came to Champa, it was difficult for Hindu and Muslim Chams to coexist due to cultural, customary, and religious differences. To unite the Hindu and Muslim Chams, the ancient Champa rulers allowed the Cham Hindus to incorporate Islam into their religion (which the Cham Muslims were prohibited from doing by religious scholars). Thus, Sunni Islam and Bani Islam were able to coexist due to some religious similarities (like believing in one GOD, Allah). Anyway, historically, Sunni Islam wasn't allowed in Vietnam due to the old Vietnamese government's concerns about potential extremism, as the government was wary of the possible misuse of 'Jihad' for political upheaval. In contrast, the old Vietnamese government found Bani Islam more acceptable because it does not advocate the concept of 'Jihad'. Most Cham Sunni Muslims can be found living in various parts of the world, with the largest population residing in Cambodia. They have chosen foreign lands as they felt a greater sense of security and freedom to practice their faith without fear of persecution in their own homeland, now called Vietnam. Those Sunni Muslims in Cambodia are often referred to as Western Chams, (like myself). The presence of Cham Bani in Cambodia is almost non-existent. You may have heard of Katip Sumat, a notable Sunni Muslim Cham figure who fell victim to the war while leading Cham fighters from Kelantan Malaysia in an unsuccessful attempt to reclaim their homeland (Vietnam) in the name of Jihad. Katip Sumat was labeled a rebel by the old Vietnamese government. This incident, among others, contributed to the perception that Sunni Islam in general was a potential threat to them. During earlier times, Islam in Champa was not as strong, and the old Kingdom of Champa had endured a series of wars, cultural conflicts, and religious persecution for centuries. After the last Champa King passed away, the lack of strong leadership made it even harder for Sunni Islam to maintain its influence in the region. The Cham people no longer have their own country since Vietnam took over through warfare. During those times when the Cham Muslims were forced to consume non-halal food like lizards and pigs and speak only the Vietnamese language, they couldn't even practice Islam as you might expect. This strange religion (called Bani) was deemed 'moderate' by them, which led to its being allowed and promoted as the official religion of the Cham people during annual celebrations at Champa cultural sites, like the Kate Festival. The economic benefits from tourism went directly to the Vietnamese government. This kind of mockery towards the Cham people has been happening for many centuries. In Vietnamese history books, references to Cham Islamic warriors are rarely mentioned. Yet in the history books about the Cham in other Muslim countries like Malaysia or Indonesia, they often discuss Islam in Cham culture, even sharing a common Muslim King, Sultan Zainal Abidin. For many centuries, the old Vietnamese have attempted to erase the Cham identity, so any connection to Islam is not considered part of them. Nowadays, most of the Cham people are now Sunni living scattered worldwide in places like Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia and even in their own homeland as minority groups. Most of these people already converted to Sunni Islam and only a small number of them who live in rural areas practice this strange religion. Go find them and spread the truth. Instead of judging, help them.
No it is the opposite. Vietnamese government is trying to force Cham Bani to become Sunni and assimilate them in general Islamic mainstream. In 2022 the government changed the Cham Bani's religious identity on ID cards to "Islam"
@Kusskatta Ul Haq Good with words aren't you pal. Recommend that menu do you? The people are happy! Obviously you are not, that is why you wish them to become like you.
@Antony montana when u insult our prophet, its shows how low your mentality is. Educate yourself and not just listened to western media and their biased reports
@alvarez alvarez i mean, if you are claiming something present some proofs regarding contradictions. on the side note: want to know islam? then refer scripture and authetic hadith not muslims. islam is perfect and humans are not. peace
@alvarez alvarez I agree with you at some points, call me a Quranist but I still respect others who believe and practicing the Hadeeth. As long as they don't contradict with the Qur'an, then they can practicing the religion all they want. Allah already set many limitations for all muslim, what they must do, what they must not do in the Qur'an. One group of believer can live peacefully with other group. Eventually Allah will explain to us in the afterlife that who among us is the most righteous. But the bottom line is that we cannot be divided, we must not harm each other, we must help each other. When we united, we are strong.
i am from United states, i meet with a lady she is from Vietnam . she said she is Muslim then i asked some qs she could not answer and even she did not know those basics so i misunderstood her . But now i understand she was right on her point .
This was very interesting 🤔 am not Muslim but my family aRe and i have never seen this version.. in my opinion this simple practice of this people are much better than the extream Muslim
@@UrDaddy4Real it doesnt matter what others think about the meaning of bani because that word originated from Arab, and I'm an arab. If that word mean something specific, it will mean it that way.
They are good people, it is just like the type of students who always fall asleep during class so they missed alot of lessons and only got few words which are Islam, Allah, Ramadhan, Mahomet.. That's all
The problem is that they are practicing Shirk , and this is something very very serious , i dont know if you are a muslim ? Because in islam this type of ibada falls under ( shirk ) a major sin in islam which ALLAH does not forgive , therefore its important to remind them of this biggest wastage of their life destroying it with this kind of believing , whether you are good looking people or bad , Shirk is not forgivable. Jazakallah khairan.
@Sonny that's a good question.. That's what you wonder about while me wondering if they can be considered as muslim from very beginning coz no matter how we look at it, nothing similar to Islam other than few terms/words used like Ramadhan, Allah, Mohamet, even the position of their Mohamet is different from islamic version
It's the best explanation given to this sad story. Though my grandparents and parents were also born and raised during the Soviet times and we also 'missed plenty of lessons' and were left with certain terminology that also didn't say much to us. We knew we were Muslims but the majority of us didn't pray, fast, read Qur'an and etc. Their mosques function at least once a month, however ours were closed for decades.
@@taalatchouf5427yeah, superficial for sure. it’s not Islam. bottom line. True muslims do not innovate our religion as per our Prophet Muhammad has stated in the Quran. this can be considered anything else but Islam because it’s not. but that’s just my opinion i guess
Guys, first of all, the title is perfectly incorrect. Not a Bani person calls themselves Muslim or refers to Bani religion as a branch of Islam. Therefore, there's no legal basis to identify Cham Bani people as Muslims when they're not, even Bani religion is somewhat rooted in ancient Islam. There are tons of research papers clarifying that the Bani religion is an independent religion from Islam. Calling their religion Islam is disrespectful. Google them and you'll see! Second of all, many of your comments are inappropriate. As a Vietnamese, I understand Bani religion more than any of you guys here. And listen, no one needs your guidance. Bani people have their own cultural and religious heritage, which they are trying to protect from disappearing because the mainstream continues to misunderstand their religion, from the government to the general public. Last but not least, Bani religion incorporated many rituals and practices from many other religions, such as Buddhism, not only Islam. So why don't call them "A strange Buddhism"? Syncretism is more complicated than you think, so before you do some research first, forget all about your religious propaganda.
@yewsun yim im sorry, just to tell u we muslim follow the teaching of Jesus.. like in bible said, Jesus bow n pray to god… exactly like muslims do.. Jesus (prophet Isa alaihisalam) circumcised like muslim… we dont eat pork n dont consume alcohol like Jesus.. Muslim womans cover their head with hijab like bible has mentioned…
This happens when you lose authenticity from religious rituals and start interpreting it by your own wills ... It's happening everywhere in different forms in our modern world ...
All religion is interpreted by Humans. The religious scholars who interpreted Quran and Hadith to derive its current form were as human as us. If they can interpret based on their ancient, dinosaur thinking, we can do the same.
@@nomanshaheer but why there is have different Fiqh? Different Madzhab, different Manhaj or something else, with those different we are fighting each other
The Cham people should be protected from religious supremacists who seek to destroy their unique spiritual culture. The Brahmanists and the Banis have made a covenant of peace and mutual collaboration hundreds of years ago. That should be upheld and respected.
@@አሚቼወዲኤረይ Shalom habibi. Go and ask innumerable ex jews who are now muslim...Al hamdulillah. By the way, The God jews and muslims worship is the same. Its just that jews deviated long ago and then The God gave Islam for mankind universally. Relax.
@Fusion I will answer you !! If you answer my question ? In my faith to be a prophet you must have prophesied many things some have passed and others are to pass away . If Mohammad is a prophet .... TELL ME ANY PROPHECY THAT YOUR PROPHET PROPHESIED AND THAT PASSED AWAY ??
They are Cham ethnic in central Vietnam. You can say they were the earliest or oldest ethnic who converted to Islam in Southeast Asia. Once they have their own kingdom was Champa before invaded by Vietnamese. And now their land was disappeared. They were Hinduism by birth for hundred years before Islam spread to their land. Back to 7th century there was a Prophet Muhammad's Sahabat was been there before he forward to China. Champa kingdom had a most important port between Europe and Middle east to connect to China. His name was a father-in-law of prophet Muhammad. He had broadcasted Islam to the local people of the port. Then they accepted Islam. But the it was not the kingdom religious. But because they were very far from Islam world the knowledge they got was very little. They still not been apart from Hinduism influences. And because their land was conquered by Vietnamese it's hard to connect to newer islamic kingdoms to broadcast and promote them. And Full version of Islam is only the people who migrated to Cambodia land to escape from the Vietnamese slaughtered. Because these people had a very good relation and connection to newer Islamic kingdoms. [[The time that they knew Islam was very short for them, before their kingdom was conquered by Vietnamese empire.]] Hope They would guided by Allah one day. But for me they are still my brothers in Islam.
Good efforts by the team for taking us to such a great civilization with such rich customs and traditions, especially the Muslim community who are still stuck to the teaching Islam in their own inovated way. There is need of more religious education about the true and practicing way of islam rather than mixing it with other religion to please all. Remember pleasing of Allah should be the basic and top most concept of any such practices and that can only be done once we follow the teaching of Quran and Sunnah. We must remember the Khutubatul Widha or the Last msg of Holly prophet (Peace be upon him) during last Huj which is the base of all practices related to Islam. In this last Khuthba or speech the Last point advised by the Holly prophet (Peace be upon him) is as under: "oh u people ! Remember I am leaving behind Qurana and Sunnah, if you follow them, you will never go stray or wrong". Time for Muslim scholars /Ulma to focus on the issue wisely and mutarely by inviting their Religious leaders for further education/ Dialog and guidance and find way out to help them as per teaching of Islam, Quran and Sunnah. envisaged in the last address of the Holly Prophet peace be upon him. May Allah blessing be upon you all. May Allah show us the right path, Amen Jazakallah Khair
Guys, please do not dislike the video. They are just doing a documentary to report the facts. If a news reporter talks about a crime scene, you don't hate on the reporter.
@@Abdullah-tu9mo Never give anger a chance to blind you dear, my comment is clear and is in a simple grammar but will clarify it again np, “I do agree with Hatim that definitely judgement is for Allah Swt alone” however, we have to defend our deen at all times when we see such major mistakes as in this case but as long as we do it peacefully, remember islam is a religion of peace not war but many do misinterprets it otherwise on account of ignorance.
It's the duty of the Muslims to go to that country and revive/ or properly teach them Islam, if they don't listen , then Allah takes care of them but as for Muslims , you have done your duty as ordained by Allah and that you will be-rewarded on the day of the judgment for giving the right message. I am sure these people do not have proper knowledge of Islam. Saudi Arabia should be sending scholars to teach Islam all over the world instead of spending money on weapons and killing Muslims.
I think you should leave them alone and fix your own country first. These people lead peacefully with their non Muslim citizens which is more than I can say of Muslim majority countries.
As an Indian Hindu, it just soothes my heart seeing Cham people could not go away from Their indigenous religion and still embraces it , and it amazes me instead of celebrating it, the peaceful people in the comments seciton are criticizing it..this alone shows the difference between all encompassing Hinduism and the peaceful religion
they should amaze after lost connection bani cham still stick to the religion (even localization) In Taiwan most muslim immigrants from Qing dynasty are not muslim now, but looks a bit like Arabic rather than Chinese.
We Muslims believe that everyone once believed in one God, but that idea became corrupted after centuries of culture, misinterpretation, etc. So when people accept Islam, they return to their indigenous religion. Hope that helps you understand; peace be upon you, brother!
Believers, believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), in the Book He has sent down to His Messenger, and in the Book He sent down before. Whosoever disbelieves in Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Last Day, has surely gone astray into far error. (136)
It will be hard, some indigenous people, do not or cannot mentally comprehend, that what they are doing is not Islam. I feel sad for them, though. They are inherently good people..there are so many so called "righteous Muslim " that does not possess an ounce of humility, than these, lost souls. Alei Salaam, said be a good person first before you call yourself a Muslim. I wonder how they are doing during the pandemic. These are people worth, standing up for, not country's like the UAE. I am so glad I am vegan, just mention pork, makes me nauseous. Eventhough the pig itself is not to be blamed. Everything that superced,your relationship with Allah is gharam..being it cigarettes for instance 1) you wasting money 2)you give others second hand smoke 3)you polluting your body 4)you polluting the environment. 4 sins with one cigarette. We should all make duah for each and everyone..not just the Muslim Ummah. Allah created us all. Allah said I have made you into many, and different so that you can learn, respect and love one another. Allahuma istajib. No wonder the Prophet (saw) asked for forgiveness 100 times, before he started his day, as he might sin, knowingly or unknowingly..remember the prophet was, but a man (human) and that is what he said..he is only human. Subhan Allah. 😓😓😓🤲🤲🤲
@@muhammadrobiul8245, if we are to help, you have to learn vietnamese first, obtain trust. Because, some on here do not even know the teachings of Islam,properly either.,they misinterpret, the teachings. Jummah Mubarak.
@@003mohamud yes, nowadays, most of Muslims only can judge and judge, but they doesn't try to spread the truth, how can someone be purified by judging? Even by judging, people will be more difficult to be purified
The muslim preacher who got there in the middle ages never finished their lesson, and cham still in the state of conversion between tradional rituals influenced buddhist-hindus from their neighbouring cambodian, laotian, thais & pre-communist vietnamese.
Hahaha 55 thousand helpless poor innocent woman's and girls no shelter no family in the opposite of dawat markaz now they are open prostitutes on the nose of markaz jamaat in delhi india but dawat markaz did nothing for them and you say him to teach this community! it's your funny talking
@@ishaqiqbal bro only brave care full sympathesizer Muslim person provide them real knowledge... They need little knowledge not enough because most of things are common
@@ishaqiqbal yeah you are right bro that is issue and main reason no body is exist on earth right now who give right knowledge to Muslim ummah every one defend his own sector that is why Muslim ummah gone destroy... No one say the talk of quran no one say the talk God no one say the talk of prophetAS
The beauty of The Qur'an is that Allah s.t. explains the concept of Godhood to man with clarity of worship. Anything beyond this is innovation. All other forms of worship ensure dis-unity in mankind because it leads to idolatry, hence man end up worshiping the created instead of the Creator.
The mention that the dignitaries can smoke a cigarette before they break the fast got me laughing,looks like the dignitaries have allowed themselves quite a few concessions.
This is definitely not a representation of Islam. They have borrowed elements from Islam, along with other religions. These customs are interesting, but the religion, itself, should not be referred to as a strange/unusual version of Islam.
This video explains how Islam spread in South Asia but still retaining Hindu touch. As a member of matrilineal Hindu community from India , I surprised to find our counterpart culture in Vietnam.
@suraj shetty : this is not islam.there is no any common symptoms of sunnah,and the orders of QURAN.These are theirs selfmade culture and i am requesting you to know the proper knowledge about islam
This is a great documentry. Just shows you what can happen without Arabic culture influencing people. Many of the Islamic acts of worship also predate Islam like throwing the stones and going round the Kabah etc were incorperated into the new religion. These people are simply applying their ancient traditional acts of worship to the God of Abraham which is brilliant to behold unlike the many wahabis posting here.
@@vandervan4462 exactly bro yussuf Islam team should visit here this mixture of traditional budisim . Christianity . And their culture totally confused community
I thought that as a believer there is only one that has the power to make judgement. Why is it that different individuals and groups who say they are Muslim (although this equally applies to Christians and Hindus for example) feel that they have the authority to judge another's actions and deeds. Having said that, those dignitaries seem to be leading a very charmed life. However, the same could be said of many wealthy and powerful leaders in so called Islamic countries. Some Muslim authorities and individuals will happily make statements criticising various practices of these people, yet they have never met them or know anything about them apart from watching this video. The world of religious practices is full of rituals and rules of behaviour, but it is the heart of a person and their good deeds that will be the measure of their life on Earth. All religions have a variety of practices and interpretations in some of their various branches. The fact that one mainstream branch may claim authority to judge which way is correct or acceptable, is part of mankind's weakness not strength or moral righteousness. If it's not for you, not to your liking or doesn't fit with your understanding; then why must some feel the need to criticise it, correct it, change it, bring it in line with their own view?
The same way scientific consensus is an important aspect of science, islamic consensus in terms of beliefs (including the five pillars) is just as important for muslims. It's called 'Ijmaa'. It's something we use so we don't divide into a thousand different sects, because unity is important in islam. Stating that the prophet is divine and not applying the five pillars is totally against the consensus even within the different "orders" in islam. In other words, this is not a matter of "difference of opinion" (called ikhtilaf), this is an extreme case where the people portrayed definitely DO NOT practice Islam factually speaking.
There's only one Islam and it's not hard to know it . Shi'a worship Ali , and these guys and the ahmadia are inventing things from there own mind and call it islam. Anything that contradicts with the Qur'an and the sunna has nothing to do with islam . There's only one Islam the suni one and the rest are pagans
The majority of the Cham are Sunni. They have kingdom in Annam. Named Champa. They were considered as Malay Kingdom. Even though living in Vietnam and Cambodia, the learned scholars from Hijjaz always came to teach and spread Islam to the Cham. Shaikh Ahmad Ibn Muhammad Zain al-Fatoni have many Cham students who become scholars in Cham.
Truth Written there are sects even in Sunni. The difference just in the interpretation of the Law. The Shariah. The differences in Aqeedah. The creed that makes any sects differ and becomes like another religion. Take as example the creed of some Wahhabi or Salafis who took the al-Quran literally and says Allah attributes resembling the creation, with hands and face.
Truth Written exactly.better stick to getting religious knowledge from known scholars rather thn random youtube video comments. That is the adab of seeking knowledge, to know who your teacher is.
You clearly don't know your Hadith then. Sayyidina Muhammad (S) spoke of sects in Islam, as follows: in Hadith book Tirmdhi Hadith no 171 Narrated byAbdullah ibn Amr Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said: There will befall my Ummah exactly (all those) evils which befell the people of Isra'il, so much so that if there was one amongst them who openly committed fornication with his mother there will be among my Ummah one who will do that, and if the people of Isra'il were fragmented into seventy-two sects my Ummah will be fragmented into seventy-three sects. All of them will be in Hell Fire except one sect. They (the Companions) said: Allah's Messenger, which is that? Whereupon he said: It is one to which I and my companions belong.
Truth Written if only there were no sects in Islam...we would be a powerful force against oppression! Culture and traditions are a beautiful and Each can hold onto culture if it does not contradict rulings in Quran.
We need to send a jamaat there for proper guidance and bring them back in the folds of Islam. We have seen this happening and now we have to act on this as a duty. Request for people living in this region please let me know how to reach there.
This was interesting to say the least. May the Almighty grant everyone with..hidayah. We are not to judge, but, this is an infusion of various religions..no one is perfect, we are all lost in one way or another. Yet, I can not get past, the mayhem of all of this. Talakwatul Allah. When you thought that you have seen it all. Interesting indeed. WoW.
@@khappekhappe133 ,yes speak up, whilst in a pandemic. I just responded...maybe you should read, what I said afterwards. Inna la ie..@ Muhammed Robioul, comment. Not sure if his second name is spelled properly, but he is further down in the comments section.
@@AbdurRahman-hh5sz,are you sure that you are that righteous to claim, that you are a perfect example of a Muslim. Or am I reading you wrong. You Pakistani are you not?
@@Karim-so9jc because muslim dont worship anyone except allah and in this vedio they are clearing doing that of stuff and doing all opposite thing that of basic principle of islam and ur saying u would prefer that
@@sarimabbas4559 do want him to get killed or what? If he/she/them says yes, they will be killed, as apostasy will be punished with death. If he/she/them says no, then their mind can't deny the fact that they love this version of islam. If islam is really this peaceful, matriarchal, harmonious with others, open to other thoughts, world would be such a good place. Even I would have accepted Islam. But no, islam is female oppressive, closed community minded, hypocritical.. etc.
WhipperJesus absloutly v r not disturbing this community because ALLAH have the power to punish for those who edited in his Islam. v are peace full religion followers. and i make a DUA for u my friend. to understand the islam ,stay stick with your believes.
In the past, when Islam spread in all non-Islamic regions of the world, it gradually changed to Islam, as the traditional culture and religion they had had mixed with Islam. There was nothing other than a war of aggression. We can realize it by studying world history and religious history. We need to respect their traditions and culture, not to force formal Islam, but to inform them gently.
why malaysian and indonesian try to change the cham lol , our govt really need to stop outsider influent to the native cham muslim faith , heck sooner or later the govt will stop all outside support of more extremist muslim if it feel threat which will come with the introduce of sunni hardline way , let hope the cham can keep they faith the way they allway been since ancient time
@@GrumpX my understanding of shirk is when you make someone other than Allah an object your worship-I did not find it in their practice. I seen worst things in Pakistan-the so called torch bearer of Islam.
watched 10 minutes of this nonsense then stopped. Our prophet PBUH was told that before the end of time there will be many variations of Islam. All will end up in hell except one.
Islam mixed with true traditional and national culture ! very good ! live in peace ! unique ! varied and graceful, just like some people drink coffee with sugar only and other drink coffee with milk . but i drink coffee with honey ! !
Did you read the title...it's an unusual islam not the actual one, they were doing that because of their past history...and if you read more about it...they were forced by their king at that time to synchretize islam and hindhuism. And one more thing, a lot of them has already converted into the true orthodox islam and they live in the same village peacefully
"they worship their ancestors at the graveyards" this is shirk, worshipping other then allah. this sin takes you right out of the fold of islam. how the shaytaan have twisted their minds.
13:01 even they don't really think of themselves as Muslims. 13:51 they are trying (pork) 14:34 the prayer is once a month 18:23 that's just cute 23:40 synchronisation of monotheism and polytheism.. There's an abrahamic faith that does that wink wink 25:21 monotheism, read the quran.. God is on
True , In islam lot of practice chiite ,abashite,souffite, coranique, etc the true IS the sauna. This pepole IS Lost,sorry m'y english i m french Muslim.
@@DoraEmon-xf8br I like how they pretend to circumcise, but they just don't have the heart to do it. I think that they're pretty awesome. The Wahhabists need to stay away. They ruin everything and they're parasites.
They are not misguided but the spreading of Islam for them wasn't done completely. In South East Asia, the spreading of Islam was done by cultural assimilation method not by invading or forced conversion like in India or Persia, so it needs about 5 generation to completely turn into the common Islam by guiding them continuously with several generations of the guider clerics too. But this wasn't done to Cham, maybe assimilation of Islam by the guider cleric didn't finished until 4th or the 5th generation back then, may be just only to the second generation.
