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A Subway to Throggs Neck? | Why We Need It

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There are many areas of the city that lack transit service. We've covered Utica Avenue, the restoration of the Rockaway Beach Branch, and today, we're gonna be talking about a Subway extension to the Throggs Neck neighborhood of the Bronx.
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@MysticTransit 2 года назад

Would you like to see an extension to Throggs Neck in the future?

@michaelmorales1475 2 года назад

Yes.

@transitimprover 2 года назад

Yes, but I voiced a concern

@scytheyt4051 2 года назад

I would like to see it go from 125 to Throgs Neck but otherwise yea I would love to see a expansion to Throggs Neck

@fredashay 2 года назад

It wouldn't do anything for me, but I agree it's prolly a good idea for the people who live up there...

@NYCTrainrider 2 года назад

Yes

@yuuycockdemnations69420 2 года назад

In my opinion, subway service should always be the first option when assessing an isolated neighborhood's needs, being that most people want to get to Manhattan directly. If this were to happen, I can already tell that Throggs Neck residents would be rejoicing in happiness.

@dottipoggi6248 2 года назад

When you have a Subway...there are tax abatements to offer developers to place affordable and low income multi units to the community...this is not what Throggs Neck is.

@jabgaming2592 Год назад

Trams: Am I a joke to you

@ninofromkitchennightmares1497 Год назад

Except that isn't true

@Demopans5990 5 месяцев назад

@@jabgaming2592 NYC is dense enough that trams are the low end of transit capacity. Buses literally can't keep up here

@iNevaan 2 года назад

I like this idea. When the T exists the Q can go to 125th and the T can go to Throggs Neck and there can be rush hour express service. Or, the Interborough Express can be extended to Throggs Neck, and can also be extended from its Brooklyn terminal in Sunset Park to either to Barclays Center or DeKalb Ave (B)(Q)(R).

@TrickyPchester0948 2 года назад

ABSOLUTE GENIUS

@williamerazo3921 2 года назад

Yup

@umm.spectri 2 года назад

The Q should go to The Bronx instead, since the T will serve all of the 2nd Avenue Line, and the Q serves some important transfer points, such as Times Square, Herald Square, etc. I'm pretty sure most Bronx commuters would like to have a 1 seat ride to Midtown.

@iNevaan 2 года назад

@@umm.spectri Idk about that bc if the Q is running local all the way into Throggs Neck it will make the line really long. Plus u can just transfer at the northern 2nd Avenue line stations. And also at 14th Street-2nd Avenue you can transfer to the L for service to Union Square/Chelsea

@chriscampbell5538 2 года назад

Sadly that’ll never happen in our lifetime

@coolboss999 2 года назад

There are just a lot of underserved areas in the Bronx that lack a subway like Co Op City. Throggs Neck is one of them and it would be cool to see one go there

@original__gmebvy 2 года назад

Funny enough the 6 line was supposed to end in Co-Op City. The city had a financial crisis in the 70’s (partially due to the Bronx is Burning debacle happening in the South Bronx, among other issues of the era) that put the brakes on that project. I say they should extend the line to Co-Op, because taking the bus from Pelham Bay Park to Co-Op is awful, especially with that on-ramp to I-95, it takes so long just to get on or off over there, you would think there was a big car accident on it’s how slow the traffic is. Ironic enough whenever there is an actual accident, the highway is usually empty lol.

@wanderer34 2 года назад

@@original__gmebvy personally Pelham Bay Parj is a perfect terminus for the 6 line. I’ve always felt that extending the D train from 205th St to Co-Op City was a perfect plan, especially considering that the D line was constructed to extend that far over there!

@leecornwell5632 2 года назад

@@wanderer34 Bring the the 6 Pelham line to co op city sence the Connecticut metro North is coming to the Bronx. Bring the 10 trains to throggs Neck and Hunts point and the 8 trains could run back on the 3rd Avenue Elevated line between Gun Hill Road and Clearmount Avenue Webster through 125 street connecting to the 4 5 6 Q T lines and the Metro North.

@tk24life 2 года назад

I agree this is definitely needed. I have a friend whose trip from Throggs Neck to Manhattan was a huge hassle, so she sometimes preferred the express bus over the subway. My only change may be making it the 9 instead of the 8, since 8 sounds so much like A. I also think in the long term, sending the 2nd Avenue Q to Throggs Neck may be a good option.

@MysticTransit 2 года назад

I think, the issue with making it the (9), is that we "recently" had the (9) train, and that was associated with 7th Avenue. I feel like that might confuse riders even more.

@leecornwell5632 2 года назад

Let the 10 trains run to throggs Neck and let the Pelham 6 line be extended to co op city. Let the 8 trains run on the old 3 rd Avenue Elevated line run between Gun hill road and Queens plaza connecting with the N W 7 11 trains. Let the 9 trains run on the 1 between 251 Broadway and the Redhook and the 1 could terminate at south Ferry ⛴️ Manhattan. Just focus on the the south Bronx 8 3rd Avenue Elevated line and the extending the Pelham 6 line to co op city 🏙️ mall. Let the 10 trains run between Hunts point and the throggs Neck like that . Leave the 6 trains the way it is between Brooklyn Bridge and co op city 🌆 mall .

@leecornwell5632 2 года назад

The mayor Eric Adams said that the south Bronx definitely needs a 8 3rd Avenue Elevated line back where it was I'm telling you.

@bilalmuhammad1799 2 года назад

@@leecornwell5632 when did he say this I am unaware

@nyctransitrailfan 2 года назад

@@bilalmuhammad1799 he never proposed such plan, Eric adams is busy doing other BS instead of solving crime in the city, this is what happens when we let democrats run our city

@fathersodear825 2 года назад

Such a great idea. I think sending subways to more “residential” areas would make suburbs approachable for those working in Manhattan.

@michaelmorales1475 2 года назад

One Big thing that I disagree with in this Community is that "The Bronx doesn't need a New Subway Line" I feel like every Borough deserves a New Subway Line.

@MysticTransit 2 года назад

Every borough DOES need a new subway line. The issue is, that people want to focus on their own boroughs, instead of addressing the issues with transit across the city.

@robotx9285 2 года назад

Manhattan: Second Ave Phases 2-4 Brooklyn: Interboro Rapid Transit, Rockaway Reactivation, Utica Ave, Myrtle South Ave Reactivation. Queens: E Train Eastern Extention, N/W Extention. Statan Island: North Shore Reactivation/ North Shore Light Rail

@sylonisupport68 2 года назад

@@robotx9285 Don't forget the Bronx: Q train above 3rd Avenue to Gun Hill Road D train to Coop City #1 to 262nd and Broadway #8 to Throggs Neck

@eriklakeland3857 2 года назад

@@robotx9285 my dream for Queens is a direct connection from Jamaica to Flushing. Perhaps a future extension could serve College Point before going under Long Island Sound to travel along White Plains Blvd and Fordham Rd in the Bronx. It’d form an amazing outer half loop with so many transfers with the subway, LIRR and MNRR.

@darylcarr8283 2 года назад

I heard back in the day there used to be an IRT line that ran west to east connecting all the current lines in the Bronx. Don't know if it went far east enough to serve Throggs Neck, but a shame that it went away. And how has it that the MTA hasn't figured out how to connect Staten Island to Brooklyn at least?

@YoungBurr94 2 года назад

I literally was over there yesterday and I kept thinking that. Only problem would be that citizens from Throgs Neck might reject the idea because they probably enjoy the quietness & feel like their property value would decrease just like folks of Mill Basin allegedly did when MTA wanted to extend the 2/5 train to Kings Plaza

@1575murray Год назад

There has been talk about extending the Nostrand Ave. line farther south to Kings Plaza for decades but I don't think it will ever happen.

@ahmadfrw1 2 года назад

I definitely agree with a Throgs Neck line, however a combination of things must take place. They are as follows: 1. I would create a Bronx to Queens line parallel to the Q44 SBS (as the proposed Throgs Neck line would connect with the Q44 SBS at the Throgs Neck Shopping Center) with one line to Kingsbridge via Fordham (below the Bx39, Bx22 and Bx9 routes) and one line to Yankee Stadium, where the Throgs Neck line would also operate along. 2. The Throgs Neck line would go Crosstown below 161st Street in The Bronx, then I would have it turn South as a 5th Avenue line in Manhattan and let it terminate at Herald Square - Penn Station. 3. From the 5th Avenue line, I would create an EXPRESS to Co Op City which would spur at 125th Street, travel below 3rd Avenue and Boston Road in The Bronx, and below the Bx21 bus route to the Albert Einstein Hospital at Eastchester Road, then continue Northeast to Co Op City below Stillwell Avenue and terminate at Bay Plaza Mall.

@kaisworld31 2 года назад

I am here for a Throgs Neck Line.. if this ever comes to fruition, MTA call Jessica Gottesman to record the 8 line announcements and any other IRTs lines

@transitimprover Год назад

They don’t like Jessica Gosstman

@mzxeternal 2 года назад

Its a really good idea, but I don't think it would ever happen unfortunately knowing the MTA. But what would be ideal that would help, is that they combine the Metro North expansion project, along with the Interboro Express, the Rockaway Beach Branch and possibly things like the abandoned LIRR Montauk Branch and the soon to be shuttle Atlantic Avenue branch into New Yorks own "Overground" type system "The Upway?" with a rapid transit type service at the same or close price points as the subway. At least then, combined with your idea of an SBS for the BX42, would give those commuters a much faster link to midtown than the 6, as well as a ton of people in areas that are currently transit deserts. The idea could be expanded even further since there's definitely capacity on many of the LIRR and MNRR routes that could support sharing tracks with a service like this with sufficient signaling upgrades, and Omni could put it all together with easy out of system connections and transfers. This I think is something that could get done at costs that aren't prohibitive, and there's certainly an an opportunity to do it right now with both the plans of the MNRR expansion, the interboro and the ongoing discussions of Rockaway Beach (and the fact that would be cheapest to construct being reconnected to the LIRR. Connect all 3 systems with a PATH type of rapid transit rail road stock and you got a NY Overground.

@MysticTransit 2 года назад

I really like your idea of turning NYC's Commuter/Regional Rail network into something similar to the London Overground. I've talked about this in many of my videos. It would be great to have an improved regional rail system, not only will it be less expensive to serve some areas with Regional Rail, but with fare integration, it would lead to excellent connections between buses, the subway, and the LIRR/MNR.

@mzxeternal 2 года назад

@@MysticTransit and there's the capacity to do it on many of those commuter lines with signaling improvements. Hell look at the rush hour patterns of some of the branches. LIRR Port Washington has trains distanced a couple of times during rush hour 3 minutes apart (there's a 4:21PM and a 4:24 PM for example, but not many of them) but if they can do that for a couple of trains during rush hour, that means they certainly have capacity to run a RAPID transit service along the line with existing LIRR service throughout the day, not only in the off peaks which is easy, but even in the peak periods. Utilizing that underused capacity on lines that already exist would be massive, and would be a simple solution to serving a bulk of the transit deserts across the city, especially adding in the Metro North Expansion in the Bronx as well as the Interboro. And it can be done on many of those lines without impacting the suburban commuter services already using them. And with interboro on the drawing board, this would be the perfect time to plan for such an idea, since it can utilize a similar type of Rapid Transit Rail Road stock, and equipment moves needed can be done via existing LIRR and Metro North trackage. And I bet the whole thing would cost less than all 4 phases of Second Avenue haha.

@shadowmamba95 6 месяцев назад

@@MysticTransitI agree on MNRR. Specifically, I want an implementation of regional rail at the Park Avenue Main Line from GCT to Wakefield, as it is able to achieve nearly the same effect as a whole Bronx 3rd Avenue Subway with a much lower price tag. I think the Second Avenue Subway, when demand calls for it, should be the one to extend to Throgs Neck. Since it is likely that the 125th Street branch would be built beforehand, that section would become a shuttle as a result.

@iron_lion940 2 года назад

we need a cross bronx subway perhaps from around inwood 207 straight across pelham pky like the BX 12 SBS

@VinceHere98 Год назад

I truly agree that Throggs Neck is in dire need of subway service. It really is shocking how it is one of many NYC neighborhoods that have little-to-no subway service whatsoever, along with Maspeth and Southern Jamaica. Here's what I propose: The MTA should consider building a branch line that runs along the Cross Bronx Expressway and into Throggs Neck. From that, the 9 train should be reintroduced, along with a new 8 train service. The 9 train should run alongside the 1 from South Ferry up until 168th Street, after which it'll split off from the 1 and travel along the Cross Bronx Expressway and into Throggs Neck, terminating at Locus Point - Harding-Pennyfield Avs. The 8 train should run alongside the 6 until it reaches Parkchester, where it'll meet up with the 9, and will split from the 6 to run with the 9 down to Locust Point in Throggs Neck. I imagine both the 8 and the 9 trains will share R62/A's with the 1 and 6 currently, but in the future will run with R262's. I imagine they will also be interchanged at a brand new yard at Silver Beach.

@IamTheHolypumpkin 2 года назад

I would still build the tunnels and el structure to "IND Standards" with permanent (non extendable) gap-fillers at stations. This would allow it be be incorporated in the B devision with ease in the future. Just remove the gap fillers

@MysticTransit 2 года назад

That's not a bad idea.

@nicknight1728 2 года назад

As a bronxite, Yup we need one, a cross bronx train & the return of the 3rd ave El.

@leecornwell5632 11 месяцев назад

Exactly 💯% right on that. You know why I say that because one south Bronx Clearmount Webster Boston road Bronx Thrid Avenue Elevated line was tairing down because of Governor LaGuardia and the old president Robert mosses could not stand for no extra elevated lines to be the way it is today. Governor LaGuardia and Robert mosses had fusted the TA workers to tair down the 8 Thrid Avenue Elevated line down because they could not stand for no extra elevated lines. That has nothing to do with the lower riderships I totally disagree with the lower riderships. There was nothing wrong with the 8 Thrid Avenue Elevated line at all every body loved the 8 Thrid Avenue Elevated line are you kidding me?. The new mayor Eric Adams said that south Bronx definitely needs Transportation besides those buses before he got swornd in the office two years ago. Like Eric Adams said they shouldn't never have been taken down the Thrid Avenue Elevated line in the first place. You know that was a big crime tairing down the Thrid Avenue Elevated line down for what? We definitely need to sign a competition and report this on channel 12 news seriesley and bring back this Thrid Avenue Elevated line back wich is the 8 trains. Leave the Q T trains alone and let's bring back this 8 Thrid Avenue Elevated line back where it was. And call it a day. South Bronx Clearmount Webster Boston road Bronx is definitely suffering without the Third Ave Elevated line wich is definitely sad and disappointed and very very unhappy. God is not mocked and not pleased at all.

@leecornwell5632 10 месяцев назад

I tell you one thing. The ninth and Third Ave Elevated line will definitely come back I tell you that right now. Prepare of what's coming I'm telling you.

@richshort8120 2 года назад

My sister used to lived in the Throggs Neck area. I remember she lived closer to Shes Stadium than Yankees Stadium. I once took a bus that goes over the Whitestone Bridge to go to Shea Stadium. I'm surprised there's no subway in the Bronx that takes you to Shea Stadium back them. You would have to go to Manhattan to Grand Central to hop on the #7 train to go to Shea. Anyway they definitely can used a subway line in the Throggs Neck area

@edwardmiessner6502 2 года назад

Extending the subway to Throggs Neck would definitely be a good idea ... maybe continue it over the Throggs Neck Bridge where it would meet an extension of the 7 Line. Anyway I understand the Lexington Avenue Subway is already overcrowded so why not connect the new subway to the 7th Avenue Subway and call it the 9 Line instead?

@metromaster2010 2 года назад

While I like the concept, and the need certainly exists, I think adding anything else to the Lexington trunk line will be to its overall detriment. It might be better to make it a "B" division project and do it with a Bronx extension of the Second Avenue.

@peskypigeonx Год назад

The 6 is by itself on Lexington, anything here would not affect the 4 or 5 normally.

@shadowmamba95 6 месяцев назад

But we would want to keep the trains frequent since the 6 is currently the only Lexington Avenue service to serve East Bronx. In fact, the best things to do in the Bronx are to remove interlining in the Bronx (i.e. 3 trains to Dyre, 5 trains to Jerome), fixing the MNRR, and have other extensions as well (6 and D to Co Op City, 1 to 261st Street). Now, I am one of some people that oppose creating a whole 3rd Avenue Line in the Bronx, elevated or not, because we can implement regional rail into Metro-North to get nearly the same effect for far cheaper (service from Grand Central to Wakefield). However, once there is enough demand for Bronx subway extension, the 2nd Avenue subway (which would have the 125th Street branch built by then), would head to 3rd Avenue until 161st Street, then head east to Throgs Neck via 163rd Street. This will allow us to kill two birds with one stone in terms of hitting transit deserts where needed, and allow us to spend money more wisely than just extending the Second Avenue Subway to 3rd Avenue in the Bronx.

@ryanmorrison3699 2 года назад

YES! I totally agree! I’ve always wanted to go explore Fort Totten’s ruins right there at the base of the Throgs Neck, but driving there is such a treacherous endeavor. Never really wanted to have to take a bus there either. A subway stop would be ideal to say the least.

@thomaspatterson5913 2 года назад

I think the Throgs neck extension is an excellent idea as well as the co-op city extension. Great for Bronx commuters and also at Co op city in extension connecting to the new Metro North line over in the Bronx on the east side of the Bronx would be a great terminus for either or both of those lines. In addition to that I think the MTA should hire you as a consultant your ideas are spot on👍🏾

@flyguy7764 2 года назад

No The MTA isn’t safe so no I don’t think it’s good idea

@dudestir127 Год назад

In the long term, definitely a subway line to Throgs Neck. Wasn't there talk of extending the 2nd ave subway, the T, to Throgs Neck? In the short term, turn the Bx40 into an SBS. You can accomplish that a lot faster than you can build a new subway line.

@carlmlavallierejr8367 2 года назад

I wholeheartedly agree with a subway lines down Utica Ave & to Co-op City. But I know nothing about Throgs Neck in the Bronx, NY. Sorry I live in Brooklyn, been to BX maybe 10 times!!!!!!!

@jasminerosner5449 2 года назад

It was funny at 4:06 when mystic said that the (8) train would run 8 trains per hour.

@jaimerosado4254 2 года назад

Sorry, but I have lived in Throggs Neck for 37 years and I can tell you that it's never going happen; I know my neighbors too well. Don't get me wrong. I would love for Throggs Neck to have a subway line. When I worked in Manhattan, it took me only 3 days to realize that it was better to ride my bike to a train station and lock it up, than to use the Bx40/42. My legs are just far more reliable than the bus, period. But the people of Throggs Neck are way too car centric. (Please note that original proposal for a Throggs Neck subway line was made before WWII, when most Americans didn't have automobiles.) They will fight a proposed subway line tooth and nail. If it's elevated, they'll complain about lost parking spaces. If it's underground they'll complain about the temporary loss of parking during construction. I know this because many won't even patronize a local business if there's no onsite parking. And if they converted the Bx40/42 to an SBS route, once again lost parking. If you don't believe me, just check out the opposition to the proposed rezoning of Bruckner Boulevard. So once again, a Throggs Neck subway line is never going to happen. Too many NIMBYs in the neighborhood. And believe me, I say this this with no enthusiasm whatsoever.

@MizTheDonGargon 2 года назад

same with Bayside, Whitestone, Beechurst, Malba, Little Neck, Douglaston and Auburndale.

@TheRailLeaguer 2 года назад

Never say never my friend.

@matthewcyntje4393 2 года назад

Its never going to happen. I live in Troggs Neck, and the people here have good representation and pull with the city council. The subway would make the area more accessible to undesirable elements. The area is isolated, I have a home here, and want to keep it that way.

@TheRailLeaguer 2 года назад

@@matthewcyntje4393 Really?

@jaimerosado3896 Год назад

@@matthewcyntje4393Ah, spoken like a true NIMBY. Do I know my neighbors or what?

@Ironman875 2 года назад

For the subway to run along Lafayette Avenue, it would be great to have a station on Boynton Ave but as for zoning and for residents if they complain about the noise of the tracks. Also that there's a baseball field at Lafayette and Morrison. Elevated track would not make sense. Perhaps run it under Brucker Blvd to Throggs Neck.

@tnbslate8443 2 года назад

Thank you this sounds , because I currently have to take the 42 to the 6 train all the way to spring street just to get to work

@m34tgaming16 2 года назад

It's possible that it can extend even further south of throggs Neck to northeastern Queens to help serve undeserved areas like Bayside and Little Neck to give people one seat rides from queens to bronx, and maybe extending the 7 to Bayside will get a great connection to the Throggs neck line, giving even better service, maybe even build a little/medium yard for 8 trains at throggs Neck shopping center which will be a short turn area for some rush hour 8 trains or build The yard between Randall and miles aves

@scytheyt4051 2 года назад

Ight that’s dragging it

@williamerazo3921 2 года назад

Not happening. The 7 is stuck at main street with the station house at platform level and it being a stub

@m34tgaming16 2 года назад

Then I think just extend the line down northeastern queens to little neck and call it a day

@aqua2poweros699 2 года назад

That's what I thought too

@jeffrienunez4557 2 года назад

This is a great idea. It might be for feasible than my idea of getting the 7 train to the Bronx and having a Tremont Av Line.

@BDavinci06 2 года назад

Great idea but a huge issue would be layups to the yard and put-ins from the yard. Both the 6 and the 8 line would use the same equipment from Westchester Yard where the 6 trains are stored. For the 6 is it's pretty easy, a put in can either go from Pelham or Parkchester the same for layups to Westchester Yard. However for the 8 train it's a long put in and layup from Throggs Neck to Westchester Yard. This is besides the X number trains that can be stored on the tail tracks. The only solution is possibly a spur track connecting both the 6 and 8 lines to Westchester Yard to cut the deadheading times for put ins and lay ups. This will give more operational flexibility for one train go another terminal should something happen at Pelham. I do think also expansion of the subway should be prioritized to areas of the City with no subway service and connect to Staten Island as well to totally make a "Five Borough Subway System"

@qolspony 2 года назад

A small layup yard can be built in Throggs Neck.

@Amiri_Francis 2 года назад

Here’s a solution i came up with. Create a new yard for the 8 train but it should be a small yard like Fresh Pond Road Lenox Avenue and unionport yards used by M 3 and 5 trains respectively. This yard could storage up to 14 extra trains. This yards main purpose is for storage for the surplus amounts of 8 train fleet and maybe minor repairs the Defacto yard is westchester yard. Evening Weekend Late Night trains would head down to westchester yard. The fleet I believe should be R142s/R142As by having the R262 order go to the 4/5 and displaced R142s/R142As being reassigned to 6/8. Also they should have the R142s/R142As switch routes at city hall sent them in a pattern like 6 8 6 8 6 8. This could be a alternative to the yard issue.

@luiszuluaga6575 2 года назад

I always love your commentary and you have a great thought process when considering improvements of the subway system. ✌🏼😉

@angieloveroman1682 2 года назад

Brings me back to my on the 6 days when I lived there when I was younger. The commute is horrible and I would have to take the express bus to the city.

@commonsensenegro72 2 года назад

Sounds like a nice plan. Only concern is Hunts Point Station. Converting that to a full time terminus, especially with 6 express trains, and the need to clean the trains after each trip may increase dwell times on a track that is now serving dual purposes.

@MysticTransit 2 года назад

Hunts Point wouldn’t be a full time terminus, nor would the two lines need to share a track at the station.

@commonsensenegro72 2 года назад

@@MysticTransit Had to hear it again. You did say from 3rd Avenue to Hunts Point. I get it now. Would be nice though...

@EthanF175 Год назад

i think this is a great idea, another idea that i propose is extending the 7 line further into queens, if you see how crowded main can get during morning rush hours, it be looking like times square but underground, i think the 7 should be extended to either bayside or auburndale, now lots of people might say "but you have the long island rail road and Q13, Q12, and Q28 busses that run to main street" me as a local myself that lives near these lines, i can say that the timing on most of these busses are atrocious , and not everyone can afford to take the long island rail road on rush hour services, lets be honest, the long island railroad can get pretty expensive during rush hour, going up to 6.50, as the subway is only 2.75, doing the math you would spend 13 dollars a day on the long island rail road back and forth on the port Washington line, for 30 days, more then 300 dollars, as for the subway, its 5.50 a day and 165 for 30 days, more than a $100 difference, extending the 7 down northern blvd or to francis lewis would help more then 1000 7 train commuters and reduce crowding at main street terminal. Then again this is just my idea and probally will never be used, but i wanted to just share my idea because why not?

@dvnrhillary 2 года назад

I was thinking that entire Pelham line should be quadruple tracked, with the 8 train making all local stops meanwhile the 6 train go express making express stops in both directions between 3rd Avenue-149th Street and Pelham Bay Park. With this change, a few big things would happen: One: The current existing local stop of Westchester Square-East Tremont Avenue should be converted into a new express stop. Two: from the existing station of Pelham Bay Park, the 6 train would be extended between there and Eastchester with brand new local stations which are Hutchinson River Parkway (connection available to Metro North), Bay Plaza, Co-op City-Bartow Avenue, and finally, Eastchester-Boston Road. Three: Between on the new 6 train extension, two Pelham Shuttles (one shuttle service between Eastchester and City Island, and another between Eastchester and Orchard Beach during summer days only between Memorial Day and Labor Day) would run along with the 6 train. Four: during summer season only, 6 trains could run between Pelham Bay Park and Orchard Beach. Why or why not that would all be an ambitious but more interesting idea?

@edwinjacobellis4852 2 года назад

Subway to Throggs Neck? To Co-op? Dude yes

@Ty0688 2 года назад

Please do a vid discussing the 7 train into Secaucus, NJ. There have been talks about it but they still have not put anything into motion.

@TonyLasagna Год назад

Awesome videos, man! I thought I was the only subway nerd out there. Turns out there are tons of us. OpenBVE!!! I miss NYC and this is a good taste of home. I lived there my whole life, 26 years of it anyway. Left 10 years ago, and miss the subway the most. Here for the long haul. Keep up the good work.

@HopSeFue 2 года назад

As A MTA Employee I Would Love This 8 Train Trip.. Juss Make Sure Its A R142 & Ill Be Happy

@MysticTransit 2 года назад

How about we give it R142As?

@HopSeFue 2 года назад

@@MysticTransit EVEN BETTER 🤞🏽

@leecornwell5632 10 месяцев назад

How about the R262As 8 Thrid Avenue Elevated line?.

@wanderer34 2 года назад

I like the proposal between Hunts Point Ave and the Throgs Neck neighborhood with only a slight change. Rather than allowing the proposed 8 train to terminate at Miles Ave (E Tremont Ave), here are my stops: Hunts Point Ave - BX5, BX6 (SBS), BX19 {rush hour express} Boynton Ave Metcalf Ave Rosedale-Soundview Aves - BX27 White Plains Rd - BX5, BX36, BX39 {rush hour express} Castle Hill Ave - BX5, BX22 Zerega Ave - BX60 (fantasy bus line) Brush Ave - Q44 (SBS), Q50 Balcom Ave E Tremont Ave - BX40, BX42 {rush hour express} Country Club {all stops} Bronxonia {all stops} Edgewater {all stops} Locust Point - BX8 {terminus} I hope this proposal isn’t too shabby! I’m also assuming that since my 8 line from Hunts Point Ave to Locust Point is longer than the 6 line from Hunts Point Ave to Pelham Bay Park, that it would need two extra stations. Either way, it’s a great idea and while I personally don’t really see a necessity for another subway line, it’s a great idea nonetheless!

@Truly332 2 года назад

I like this idea! I feel like however the 7 line should be extended there! They could add 2 new stops that are coming from queens, (Hutchinson Pkwy and Bronx Throggs Neck). The 8 line could also be extended to queens!

@samuelitooooo 2 года назад

I'd rather continue extending the R line after it reaches LaGuardia and have that go to the Bronx instead! In a prior deinterlining video, the R would be cut back to City Hall, so it wouldn't be a terribly long line. EDIT (It's been a year): I support a different deinterlining plan now, but apparently the tight S-curve south of City Hall can handle a max of 20 TPH. Meaning if we can push 36 TPH north of City Hall, then long story short, the R line above would be no different.

@Truly332 2 года назад

@@samuelitooooo ohhh yeaa that's not bad too!

@leecornwell5632 11 месяцев назад

The eleven trains will definitely work with the 7 Flushing line between 14 street Hudson yards and 20 college point whitestone. The 7 Flushing line could definitely be extended to Bayterrence Queens. The 8 Thrid Avenue Elevated line definitely needs to come back because there's is a lot of noises over there. This is a good idea what you are talking about. The 7 will never go to the Bronx because it would be to far. What's definitely gonna happen is the 8 Thrid Avenue Elevated line back to the south Bronx Clearmount Webster Boston road Bronx between Gun hill road Clearmount Webster Boston road and new Lots Avenue Brooklyn. OR the 8 trains could be the last stop at Queens plaza connecting to the 7 N W 11 trains. Seven eleven has the same exact color purple 🟣 just like the 7. If you ever seeing the R68AS rolling signs you will definitely see the 11 purple 🟣 rolling signs I'm telling you.

@CR1Creative 6 месяцев назад

@@samuelitooooo I'd rather extend the Myrtle Avenue Line to LGA then following the tracks of the IBX so that the (M) can terminate at Co-op City to connect with Metro North

@samuelitooooo 6 месяцев назад

@@CR1Creative I stand by my proposal for the Myrtle Ave line, which is connecting it with the deinterlined 8th Ave local service. So, a new right-of-way between Myrtle Ave-Bway and Canal St (A/C/E), via Myrtle Ave and Downtown Brooklyn. This extended 8th Ave local would run between 168 St and Metropolitan Ave. With that in mind, I agree with also extending the M to LGA from the Metropolitan Ave side, because the goal with my proposal above is to better connect northern Queens with downtown Brooklyn and lower Manhattan. After that, however, any further extension would make the line way too long. I'll leave Bronx service to the IBX.

@burbank 2 года назад

The narrator of this video makes a very compelling point. An extension of an existing Subway to an unserviced areas such as throgs neck represents the best option of connecting that neighborhood with Manhattan and other points. A bus service would not be sufficient. An extension of an existing IRT line is indeed the most viable option in terms of logistics and construction. While this is all a great idea and I and many people are thrilled and excited about this prospect, the reality is that it boils down to two major components which are politics and money. Are there any naysayers and NIMBY people who do not want a Subway coming into their neighborhood? What is the political landscape with regards to funding a project? Even if there is no nimbyism and no opposition and politicians for the support this, are there funds available for this massive project? It could be a possibility but it all stems on how far elected officials will be willing to go back for this as well as securing the funding and obtaining a timely start of the construction and a timely completion. Time will only tell. Hopefully this will be something that will be given serious consideration. Hopefully the narrator this video documents all this and perhaps submits all these ideas to a planning arm of the nycta/mta. This is one of many great proposals for Transit improvement in New York City that he has proposed and the mta/nycta should provide serious consideration as well as elected officials in Albany and Washington DC.

@jayflock7446 10 месяцев назад

Just curious, if you dont already, why not work for the MTA, you seem to have a passion unlike any other and your platform is pivotal and would be amazing on your resume. You're an asset to NYC transit.

@sparkswolverine 2 года назад

I think since your recommendation is to have the 8 on its own lower level platform, I think it'll be deep enough to go underneath the Bronx River and continue as an underground line to its terminus at Throggs Neck. Of course, keeping all stations on the line as a simple two track subway with the exception of the Hunts Point Av station.

@vernonely9969 2 года назад

I used to live in Throggs neck I agree with this plan especially if it goes near the project. Will they ever rebuild the 3rd Ave El I grew up on that train it was awesome

@leecornwell5632 11 месяцев назад

Yes they are definitely gonna bring the ninth Ave and Thrid Avenue Elevated line back I tell you that right now.

@emmettmiller8660 2 года назад

Mystic I like this because I’m on 77th and it would increase the amount of trains going to the station! I’d also like your thoughts on my idea for the rockaways. The shuttle is extended all the way to beach 147 or where the park starts, and also goes to where you want the H on Roosevelt. The A train then is extended around Jamaica bay and enters rockaway from the east Mott ave side and then goes all the way to where the shuttle would end on the peninsula.

@robotx9285 2 года назад

Question: Do you think it would be a good idea to have afew 6 & 8 trains short turn at Hunts Point? Inorder to keep up train frequency on their branch lines. Trains from Pelham/Parkchester run onto layover tracks just South of Hunts Point, while trains from Throgg's Neck terminate on a middle track.

@MysticTransit 2 года назад

My idea (not shown in this video), is to have this service pattern: Late Nights: (8) runs as a shuttle between Hunts Point & Miles Avenue. Weekends: (8) runs between 3rd Avenue & Miles Avenue - Rush Hour service to Brooklyn Bridge. I wouldn't do anything to the (6) Line. To be honest, the line should only have one short-turn site, and that is at Parkchester.

@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 2 года назад

I extended the d and 6 to co op city and a shuttle covers the rest of the area and it’s connected to the 6 train and would be based from west Chester yard.

@irt3rdavenueel172 4 месяца назад

The Miles Avenue station for a Throggs Neck line would be impressive because many people that want to grab a slice of pizza can get off at Miles Avenue and walk the about 250 feet to Tommy’s Pizza

@elizabethbobbio2601 2 года назад

It might be a good idea for 8 to be back in service, but I don't think That's Not gonna happen, unless the Mta decides to bring it back. In the bright side, I'm a bit optimistic of the 8 will be replacing the 6 express form hunts points Avenue to plelhem, to make more faster services as possible.

@leecornwell5632 Год назад

The Thrid Avenue Elevated line is definitely gonna happen. Focus on the extra iRT elevated lines used the 10 or the 12 trains to Throggs Neck Avenue Elevated line village.

@leecornwell5632 11 месяцев назад

The 8 Thrid Avenue Elevated line is definitely gonna happen because south Bronx Clearmount Webster Boston road Bronx needs Transportation over there because there are to many buses over there. They are definitely trying to take some buses off at Frordam plaza to make space for the fire department and the police department. Something is definitely about to happen I'm telling you right now. People don't see it but God almighty sees everything what went down in 1973 when the Governor LaGuardia and the old president Robert mosses had fusted the TA workers to tair down the Thrid Avenue Elevated line down because those two evil selfish bastards could not stand for no extra elevated lines to be the way it is today. I'm telling. Millions and millions are definitely very disappointed and very unhappy that the 8 Thrid Avenue Elevated line was taken down and still protesting until this day non stoppable. ON and on and on .

@soli82cat 2 года назад

I would love to see an extension to Throggs Neck but u am still worried about congestion on the Lex. I am more of a fan of getting the 2nd Ave Line, either the Q or T trains up to the Bronx and perhaps over to Throggs Neck

@ak5659 2 года назад

I agree. I worked on the east side for years. The choke point seems to be 125th street. I'd recommend a Q/T train running straight up to the Bronx and does not cross the 4/5/6 @ 125th.

@leecornwell5632 11 месяцев назад

They could definitely do that with the 8 Thrid Avenue Elevated line under ground fourth Ave Manhattan. Leave the original Thrid Avenue Elevated line out to the Bronx.

@josephronda1167 2 года назад

It was originally planned to have a train run up Lafayette Ave but UNDERGROUND. An elevated lines in Throggs Neck would diminish both the value and appearance of Throggs Neck. The noise would be annoying. An underground line would be better. Other options would be expand the 6 line beyond the Pelham Bay station over the Bruckner and Throggs Neck Expressways with stops at Country Club Rd, Baisley Ave, Layton Ave and terminate at Randall Ave. Or.... Have an elevated lines above the 6 and have it peel away southbound above the Cross Bronx Expressway at Parkchester and follow the highway up to Lawton Ave

@MysticTransit 2 года назад

Modern concrete elevated's are much quieter than the steel elevated's of the past.

@dimitriventura820 2 года назад

They should use the T train and extend it into Throgs Neck in The Bronx. That was the original plan anyways

@pbatommy 2 года назад

There actually was a proposal prior to the IND Second System, to serve Throggs Neck using the IRT Flushing line, and the former LIRR Whitestone Branch. The IRT would've taken over the LIRR Whitestone Branch, and connected it to the Flushing line. The branch would've been upgraded, double tracked, and then would've crossed the East River using a massive vertical lift drawbridge into The Bronx, and would've followed a route from Brush Avenue to Throggs Neck, similar to your proposal. Keep in mind, this plan predates the building of the Matilda Cuomo (Whitestone) Bridge, and Throggs Neck Bridge. Due to the costs of converting the Whitestone Branch into a subway line, and the War Department (predecessor to the Defense Department) not wanting a low level movable bridge in that part of the East River, those plans were scrapped.

@MysticTransit 2 года назад

Wow, I never knew about that. I'll have to do some more research on some of the original proposed lines of NYC. It's interesting to look at the forgotten lines & proposals of NYC, because it shows "what could've been".

@sylonisupport68 2 года назад

Yes, I really love the idea of the #8 Train going to Throggs Neck. The Bronx has too many transit desserts. The Q needs to be extended to the Bronx via a new Third Avenue Elevated line up to Fordham Plaza or Gun Hill Road. Metro North is too expensive ($18 round trip during peak hours) and a good chunk of the people who live in the Bronx can barely afford the $2.75 base fare. I doubt the MTA will lower fares on the Metro North to make it more equivalent to the subway and bus fares. More subway lines are needed in the Bronx and the outer boroughs

@qjtvaddict 2 года назад

Metro north fares were dropped to $5 and fare integration can solve that

@sylonisupport68 2 года назад

@@qjtvaddict It's $5 one way ($10 round trip) during Off peak. During rush hours it's still $9 one way ($18 round trip), which is too expensive.

@MIkeDye200202holla 2 года назад

If you are going to have 8 express trains maybe it would be better for the tracks to separate from between the local & express tracks instead of the sides of the local before HP so the throggs neck express would have direct access without crossing the local to get to the express. It would be similar to 145st split on CPW

@robotx9285 2 года назад

Suggestion:You said the max train frequency was 22 tph due to City Hall Loop. I think a track connection between Lexington and Nassusa could be built. Where 8 trains would use the abandoned tracks and platforms to terminate. The Junction could be at Spring St, where the J/Z are moved south, while the 8 takes over the present tracks inorder to Terminate at Chambers St. Alternatively, the Junction could come off at Blecker Street, running into the old tram terminal at Exssex Street.

@RareCameoFan Год назад

But IRT trains cannot use BMT/ IND platforms so, no.

@robotx9285 Год назад

@@RareCameoFan Just modify the repurposed platforms Into IRT standards

@noelleking4271 10 месяцев назад

Imagine the 8 extending into Queens for a Bronx-Queens one seat ride : ,,,,)

@CrazyPlayss 2 года назад

Good Idea, i like it but while watching this video I had an Idea that the (6) would be Express between Hunts Point and 3rd Avenue - 138 St during peak times and peak direction and the 8 would do the local service, 8tph would still mean every 7 and a half minutes.

@joseirizarry2799 11 месяцев назад

Time to start thinking of different kinds of transportation other than buses and rail. Roosevelt Island tram has been in service for decades. Maybe a new interboro tram service would be better. It would also help in crosstown service. Taking the 36 or 40 bus to the other side of the bronx is a two hour ride.

@geraldgreen5371 2 года назад

I like how you lay out your concepts in how to improve transit service to places thought as transit deserts, but here is something l would love to see you tackle, you see the trestle above Alabama Ave on the J line? What was that meant for? Would love to hear someone explain that in detail,can you assist??

@MysticTransit 2 года назад

I believe that trestle was previous provisions for a one-tracked Express Line.

@carllivingston169 2 года назад

I'd love to see a subway/ El from Throgs neck along the south Bronx, across Randall's Island and Astiria then under 34th St. We're did you find the track map of IND 2nd system

@louisjohnson3755 Месяц назад

I think it would be a good idea for there to also be a non radial subway line through the bronx where it would go from kingsbridge to co-op city and all the way to throggs neck and maybe even going across the river to queens and have it also be a non radial line that goes through queens.

@CompositesNG 2 года назад

Wow. I love this idea. Thank you for your video and spreading your ideas and knowledge.

@milojones9241 Год назад

I want to go to school in Throggs Neck but the difficulty of getting around to the rest of the city is a genuine reason for apprehension. Obviously this wouldn’t be complete before my decision but needs to get done regardless. NY should take pride in building out the largest transit network in the world. Also why aren’t there tunnels under the East River between the Queens and The Bronx?

@Reastein2024 Месяц назад

Definitely need a subway stop there!

@locastel 2 года назад

The classic double-edged sword: A potential threat to the Italian charm that continues to be evident in the Throggs Neck residential neighborhoods. Charm that has been served by its relative isolation.

@robotx9285 2 года назад

I think this is going to really help Throngs Neck. Since you would have a connection to Manhattan that's higher capacity, more reliable, and more direct.

@JimAllen-Persona 2 года назад

How about a ferry? My Aunt lived in Throggs Neck but within walking distance of Westchester Square and that’s a long train ride.

@MysticTransit 2 года назад

There’s already a ferry to Throggs Neck, but it’s in a pretty inaccessible place.

@JimAllen-Persona 2 года назад

@@MysticTransit Thanks - I wasnt aware of that. I was down one time at a nursing home right on the water at Throggs Neck - so I undertand it can be remote. I tend to think of Throggs Neck as up by Westchester Square - not as down by the bridge approach.

@edwin5licqb906 2 года назад

How about having this new line instead of hooking up to the #6line run on down and have it link up to the 2nd Ave line. It would help ease the crowing on the 6, and use the under served 2nd Ave.line

@qolspony 2 года назад

It could come off the"D line, which runs on 161st Street, but turns on to Grand Concourse. It could run via 161st to a certain point (I don't have a map in front of me).until it has to turn to get to 163rd Street, which is the main street in the area until it intersects Hunts Point Avenue. Connections with the future "Q" line will be made at 3rd Avenue than a connection with the 2/5 than #6. A similar route to Throggs Neck would be built. The reason why this is a slightly better plan, is because passengers would now have better transfer options between the various services in the Bronx.. With your plan, you adding more service to an over frequent line. And it is north of Hunts Point where the service is needed the most. But I'm going to take it a step further. Close the entire Grand Concourse Line and build to branches to replace it: Third Avenue and the branch out to Throggs Neck. The reason why I propose this plan in this way, is because Third Avenue is far enough to not compete with the #4. The B and D will become like a Bronx Crosstown line. Meanwhile, when ever the MTA decides to extends the "Q or T" to the Bronx, it could operate via 3rd Avenue.

@blainecountysherrif4542 2 года назад

Looking at the IND map you mentioned, there are a lot more isolated places that are connected to (a) subway line(s) like Bayside, College point, Cambria Heights, Queens Village, etc. I do wish they went through with some of these because they would help immensely.

@justind3493 2 года назад

Smart idea you need to take this to city hall I never been to throggs neck and I live in the Bronx but this would be dope

@boohenry-ec8hp 5 месяцев назад

Also co-op city is getting the own station operating by the Metro North New Haven line there are tracks and back of section 5 that is fully functional but Amtrak own the tracks. The tracks in back of section 5 connect to the mainline that goes to Boston Massachusetts going to the other direction going towards the Hellgate Bridge tunnel goes to New York Penn Station continue service to Washington DC.

@HesJustSteven 2 года назад

That wouldn’t be bad, but this is where CBTC would be needed, to add more trains to each branch, especially since both trains would be using the City Hall loop

@js1031 Год назад

A part of me wonders if they could make tunnels, but run the select busses through there instead of trains. It relieves congestion topside, and is likely cheaper than making a full on rail extension. Since this would all be subterranean, it shuts up the NIMBYs and their issue with elevated rail, and a paved road, underground, out of the elements, would be MUCH easier to maintain than a rail line.

@missyelliotable 2 года назад

Totally agree 💯%. This sounds like a good idea

@FalconsEye58094 6 месяцев назад

With Manhttan extremely dense underground it makes sense that its so complex and expensive to build under, but what about the other boroughs exclusively?

@SubwayyyFan3000 7 месяцев назад

It would be built an B train extension to Throgs Neck from 161st Yankee Stadium.

@mrcead Год назад

The 6 line riders needs that branch. 6 service been trash for years and there are so many residents on that side of the 6 it would service

@ianhardy9375 Год назад

Create a branch off the eighth avenue subway between 125 and 135 feed directly into 163 street in the Bronx and Lafayette avenue or Tremont avenue to throggs neck. This will allow the B train to operate while Washington hts is serve by the K and the C can return to the concourse line. The B would be 15 trains per hour while the K is 8 trains per hour and the C would be 7 trains per hour maximizing 30 trains per hour between 59 and 125 st

@Richard-pf5xs Год назад

I think more express bus BXM9 frequency would be less expensive and help more residents get to Manhattan more directly. The fare on express buses may be $6.75, that is still much cheaper than taking a cab or rideshare to Manhattan.

@jeffrienunez4557 Год назад

This would be a good idea although I am testing varients of this line via Story and or Watson Avs to avoid construction by the greenery surrounding Lafayette

@chrispontani6059 2 года назад

I don’t think any extension should take away trains from the 6, or add any to the Pelham. Perhaps you can kill two birds with one stone by starting a line in Throgs Neck like you suggest, but instead make it a cross-Bronx line.

@geektutor7229 2 года назад

A video on the proposed E expansion to south jamaica in the 1960s would be cool to see! Otherwise great video!

@stevenstrzepka241 2 года назад

I love this, I would use this when I lived out there

@Da__goat 2 года назад

Let me know what you think about making Main Street in Flushing a massive subway terminus? From there, trains can extend east underneath Northern Blvd all the way to the border. There can even be a line running straight to LGA, linking up with the N/W at Ditmars before heading underneath the E. River into Manhattan and going all the way across 125 st. This same line can be extended down to Jamaica, effectively allowing full cross-boro connections between both airports to people coming from the North and South of Long Island. There can even be two lines running between the Bronx and Flushing, one going via college point and the other coming in through Whitestone with a third ring line that runs underneath Throggs Neck to connect to the previous aforementioned line at Northern Blvd.

@MizTheDonGargon 2 года назад

as a resident of Bayside for 30 years, the residents here as well as in little neck, douglaston, Whitestone, malba, beechurst, Auburndale etc would never allow it. they had the chance twice, the last time being in the 60s or 70s I believe and there was too many NIMBYs and people who believed subway service would turn the area into nothing but a high density area of apartment buildings and bring too many low income minorities.

@TheRailLeaguer 2 года назад

@@MizTheDonGargon Not really. When they extending the Q train to the Upper East Side, what you speak of never came to pass, and times have changed, so a subway on Northern will bring new desirable people here.

@williamerazo3921 2 года назад

Inter borough should take the Atlantic line and Mid ridge wood as well . Plus the Bronx south freight line as well

@ariesmichaelsayan4013 Год назад

I feel like the easiest way to extend the 6 is by Parkchester. Make the trains go over the cross Bronx to Throgs Neck.

@Stanf954 Месяц назад

How do you alleviate the congestion that exists on the Lex now with 4 5 6 ? Another 8 line is just adding fuel to the fire. Even with CBTC installed it is still the most undesirable ride in transit during rush.

@trae3290 2 года назад

You should go over proposed line additions from back then. I didn’t even know they proposed the Q to run on the 6

@bennythepenny5831 2 года назад

I think the (B) should be extended to Throgs Neck-Schurz Avenue & the (D) to Throgs Neck Bridge-Pennyfield Avenue. The (8) should run to Parkchester, & the (11) would run to Eastchester Bay-Hollywood Avenue. The (12) would run to Hunts Point Market-Food Center Drive, & the (13) would run to Edenwald-Strang Avenue.

@RedArrow73 2 года назад

Are new yorkers ready for the β Train?

@danielgreen9691 2 года назад

Great video 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 this should happen

@scytheyt4051 2 года назад

Throgs neck has always been neglected so a subway to Throgs Neck would help a lot of people out

@MysticTransit 2 года назад

Agreed.

@RealSergiob466 2 года назад

That would be a great idea to add on a subway line

@joshuaedwards5822 9 месяцев назад

But if the Bx42 SBS happens, then the local stops will only have the Bx40 which will make the overcrowding even worse!!

@RocketShipSquid 2 года назад

I had made a concept in Brand New Subway where a new A-Division line, signed the (10), would run along Tremont Avenue from Grand Concourse to its other terminal at the Bruckner Expwy in Throggs Neck

@jeffrienunez4557 2 года назад

My idea was to extend the 7 to run Via Tremont Av

@leecornwell5632 11 месяцев назад

Let the 10 trains run to treatment Ave in the Bronx to Throggs neck village Bronx elevated lines. Let the 8 Thrid Avenue Elevated line run by it self between Gun hill road Clearmount Webster Boston road Bronx and 149 street connecting to the 2 5 trains free transfers and 138 street free transfers to the 6 Pelham line.

@s89hblr 2 года назад

Even NYC Ferry's Soundview ferry extention to Throgs Neck is failure. Ferry drop/off pickup on Ferry Point Park and people on Harding Av, other side of Trump Gulf Course cannot get on ferry. After I emal, they need shuttle bus, shuttle bus is for going to parking lot which is useless. They need to add shuttle bus to Lafayette/Hutschison, Harding Av on end of Bx42 bus.

@Hypestrike1 2 года назад

Since the proposed route of the 8 above Lafayette Avenue borders St. Raymond's Cemetery, I think the cemetery management might be slightly NIMBY-ish about it.

@lenbutler107 2 года назад

As a kid I had to take the 40 bus to the 6 train to westchester square.. double fare!! 1974-1988

@NYCTrainrider 2 года назад

It would be fun to see an 8 train on the nyc subway

@leecornwell5632 2 года назад

The 8 is gonna definitely run back on the 3rd Ave Elevated line back between Gun hill road and Queens plaza connecting to the N W 7 11 trains 🚃 I'm telling you. Bring the 10 trains over there between Hunts point and the throggs Neck 🧣. I love 💕 your opinion s it's sounds cool. Just bring the 10 trains over there and leave the 8 trains out of this one. The 8 trains could definitely go back to the 3rd Avenue Elevated line.

@Amiri_Francis 2 года назад

@@leecornwell5632 Question would it even make sense to have double digit IRT routes. They got rid of double letter routes for a reason

@leecornwell5632 2 года назад

@@Amiri_Francis No the regular number s iRT lines are definitely fine. They just definitely need to add extra iRT subway Elevated lines like the 10 trains could run through Hunts point and throggs Neck Avenue and the 8 trains could definitely run between Gun hill road and 125 street connecting to the 4 5 6 Q T lines and the Metro North railroad. Let the Pelham 6 line be extended to co op city mall barto Bronx to connect to the Metro North railroad Connecticut . You have to remember the Connecticut trains is having four new stations Morrison Ave and parkchester hunts point and co op city mall barto Bronx.