A Thermoelectric Cooler For The Steam Deck! Can We Cool This Hand Held With Science?

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In this video, we try to cool the Steam deck with Science using a Thermoelectric cooler also known as a Peltier Cooler or even Semiconductor cooler. This uses electricity to extract heat from one side of the device bringing the temp down to an almost freezing temperature. Can these thermoelectric coolers work on the steam deck? Well, we’ve got 2 to test made by DEVASO.
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@ETAPRIME Год назад

I might just do a back cover mod that way it make contact with a metal surface and then this would make a world of difference. Trying to source a new back cover now

@matthewjbauer1990 Год назад

LTT did a mod where they cut a hole in the back of the Steam Deck and put a heatsink and fan on the CPU. The Steam Deck did lower temperatures a little bit but the main gain was in FPS. You can get back covers from iFixit.

@thiagotk987 Год назад

I do think you should put some themalpads between the backcover and metal plate

@tomk.williams1186 Год назад

if you got the steam deck with the older internal cooling fan won't the magnet in them external fans effect it, like the project kill switch stand did?

@thelegendaryklobb2879 Год назад

One big problem is condensation, you could end up killing your device that way. You need to prepare for it

@gman102formyspace Год назад

Not sure it will be 100% what you are looking for, but you could get pretty sturdy case (the kind that basically just goes around the back) and remove the back plate and do the mod with the case. The case would be easier to mod, you would get the results you want, and you wouldn't have to ruin the stock back plate in the process.

@WarisAmirMohammad Год назад

Now you've got a Condensation Deck

@RedHorseAdventures Год назад

Best post on here lol

@christopherspellman9163 Год назад

*slow handclap*

@sotosmatthew3046 Год назад

SteamDeck waterbottle 😂

@diftaat Год назад

bravo

@cardamundo295 Год назад

10/10

@Madblaster6 Год назад

Was the video supposed to cut out in the end without doing the side mount on the large fan?

@vladislavdonchev1271 Год назад

Nah, I think there is an issue with the video.

@jetbrucelee Год назад

Was waiting for that second test. I am sure he'll send the full one soon

@BlastingXNP Год назад

Glad I'm not the only one this happened to. The first four or five top rated comments don't mention it at all.

@webzterd Год назад

It's a test; who got all the way to the end BEFORE commenting.

@DIYTinkerer Год назад

the problem is plastic is quite a good thermal insulator, you really need to extend the thermal heat pipe to the back of the device to make any difference - and then you would probably do just as well with a heat-sink and fan. Peltier coolers are really best in temperature critical devices such as astro-cameras (to reduce electronic thermal noise). where you are trying to cool the sensor below ambient. They are also quite heavy on power usage.

@danavidal8774 Год назад

jsaux backplate!

@kitsune7919 Год назад

You NEED to try this method on the new steam deck transparent shell made by jsaux it has a metal plate embedded in it that transfers the actual heat from the heatsink to the outside.

@redsquarejay Год назад

Might even get 20⁰c cooler but sadly the steam deck is power limited too

@kitsune7919 Год назад

@@redsquarejay actually you can overclock the apu of the steamdeck now

@danavidal8774 Год назад

@@redsquarejay I saw 11º drops and 1200 less RPM on the fan doing the jsaux backplate + cooler combo with just the backplate and 28º ambient, I can play at 21W with the Steam Deck so i think that using both the deck could keep 23W

@stevenshaun6149 Год назад

Try to thermal paste the back body and the inner plate for better heat transfer?

@jamesmin2837 Год назад

I want one as a portable cooler for my body. On those stinking hot days, and you're working outside or something. Wouldn't mind putting one to run on a battery bank and press it against back, forehead, etc

@Shadowgardenenigma Год назад

Did you check clock speeds you could have just been giving the processor more headroom to boost

@Delta-1X-Ray Год назад

Would be an interesting video if you do a thermal paste replacement from stock to thermal grizzly kryonaut.

@zora_tech Год назад

If I am not mistaken some people have done this and most have concluded that the paste Valve is using is pretty good since they either don't see any temperature diference to a Max of 2 degree increase or decrease with new thermal grizzly

@KiraRaiGek Год назад

Did the video end right? Just felt it ended without the end lol!?!

@bboy349833591 Год назад

More Steam Deck videos please ❤❤❤

@DINU_R Год назад

I always wonder. If we can replace regular heat pipes and vapor Chambers with peltier coolers. It would save lot of space

@dustinmiller9829 Год назад

This seems like it would pair well with the JSAUX back which has a metal plate built in. The next evolution would be a dock that marries the two with the Steamdeck auto overclocking while docked.

@eskanderx1027 Год назад

2:29 though you got in a box, instead... I'll walk myself out now 👋🏻

@danavidal8774 Год назад

it would be cool a second part using the jsaux backplate

@Phille023 Год назад

End of the video is kinda weird. I've seen a cooler that goes over the top where exhaust is. Not sure what its name was again but the person who posted it said it worked for him

@xyz2theb Год назад

part 2 incoming?

@tom611 Год назад

My video cuts off mid-sentence at 8:55 for some reason, after the large middle test. Corrupted upload?

@cheeseswears Год назад

They make a backplate by Devaso that fits this fan right on top of the cpu

@Cheerfulnag Год назад

You probably should've measured RPM for the steamdeck cooler with/without external one. Cause even if temps are the same - internal collect can spin less at the same time. So.... Increasing amount of heat system can handle.

@BSOE3058 Год назад

Deck bages for some kind of custom colling backplate, maybe fully made of aluminium

@_zombiezone Год назад

lmaoo the video just cuts off abruptly

@Shadowjay969 Год назад

999k subs, the absolute tension

@zbow1974 Год назад

how do they work with the clear backs that have the thermal pad to help with heat? it might make a better difference with that case since the heat pad is touching the case.

@SoyYogui Год назад

Does magnetism damage the console? I would like to use one of those coolers but on other devices, like an xbox or a tablet for cooling Or try a ps4 to see how it works, but I don't know if magnetism can affect and damage other devices

@rickkarrer8370 Год назад

How about both at the same time? How about pulling the plate off the back and putting it on the heat slink or shield?

@paulshwarz9759 Год назад

Plastic holds the temperature . Need to check the same coolers , but without plastic cover on the back .

@Sevent77 Год назад

The CPU and GPU will always have near identical temp since you know it's a APU both components are on the same die, the difference in temps is because it measures their hotspots.

@m4nc1n1 Год назад

Why did the video just cut off?

@GodlyAnArchitct Год назад

hey man, just turn off the updated fan curve man and you will see way better results that way

@7offman Год назад

Can't wait until they release deck 3rd or 4th gen where there will be dramatic improvment to battery life, 4k screen resolution, bigger display, better handling AAA games , better graphic card so more games become compatible , more storage ,and lastly a 144 or 120 refresh rate.

@xDARKSHADEx Год назад

You blue balled us on the second test for the larger cooler, riot!

@rudysu3908 Год назад

Celsius! What country are we in again! LoL

@gamergasper9319 11 месяцев назад

what cable did you use for powering the devaso large fan?

@christiancarreon2078 Год назад

Sir I think you can try this on the aluminum plate on the jsaux clear back plate

@meareAaron Год назад

hmmmm i wonder if this could help cool down my 3900xt clevo laptop but its probably too hot for this tiny Peltier coolers so might need 2 or 4??!! hahaha

@ChristopherStanton Год назад

These are basically snake oil for the steam deck. Especially sat on plastic. The CPU could also spike in temperature and the peltier will never be fast enough to respond and take the heat away.

@DarkFreeDoom Год назад

The large steam deck cooler required 9V/3A to run. What if I plug the cable to Docking Station USB 3.1 which provide only 5V/0.9A. Will the fan spin slower or just won't run at all?

@momorudi Год назад

I use a cooler fan that's very good and cool for smartphone but isn't for Steam Deck 🙄 I am looking forward into this cooler.

@yourikhan4425 Год назад

So, it's a Peltier. Technically every single cooling solution is "science".

@cthulhux6361 Год назад

But my question would be: even if we were to cool down the apu would we see any increase in performance like an fps boost?

@Fender178 Год назад

Yeah the reason why this doesn't work is because the air is not going anywhere near the components inside of the deck. If they could redesign the fan so that it could blow air through the intake vent then it might actually do something if anything.

@eliezerortizlevante1122 Год назад

Jsaux Backplate benefits better with this. Using Low_Budget large heatsink

@kewlztertc5386 Год назад

Could it possibly come down to plastic not being a good conductor of heat, but is instead an insulator?

@_GarethRossUK Год назад

GameSir F9 I got room temp of 22 and down to 2 on the pad within a minute.

@cocobos Год назад

My steam deck never go above 70C, even playing Elden Ring straight 3 hours on battery only 😅 and without any cooler with room temperature between 28 to 30C 🤭

@ultimatejoshiewoshieness Год назад

yo why'd it cut at the end?

@hollow314 Год назад

Why tf is the video end so abruptly? Did you f it up during editing?

@BrianMills198686 Год назад

If that bigger one can get down to like 50° F, and this tech has been around for a while. Why isn't there like... Portable rechargeable personal AC things with this? If it's 115° out and I'm mowing the lawn, I'd be down to wear one of these (safely) under a shirt. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@scamperly Год назад

Is it just me or is the end of the video cut off

@MobileDecay Год назад

Solving problems that don't exist.

@dark_mode Год назад

Soprano ending

@unikPham Год назад

where is the rest of video? :D

@1234matthewjohnson Год назад

It's basically just cooling the plastic

@MikeTheGamer77 Год назад

video cut off at the end

@Tinez87 Год назад

All the design prototyping and tooling that went into this. Not to mention the money invested. It basically does nothing. Why design a product that just attaches to the plastic case?! They never heard of product testing?! Well done they managed to lower the cases temperature 😂 We don't want that plastic to get warm now do we... Who comes up with these ridiculous ideas lol

@davejay6855 Год назад

LOL... it's a stick on fan... did anyone expect any different?

@re-fix9678 Год назад

👌👌👍👍

@kevinhapr Год назад

i think that's not effective method. steam deck is different with smarthphone or tablet. usually smarthphone use the whole body as a heat dissipation, and the body is small and compact inside that cooler can do effective to cool whole body with just small cooler. steam deck body is different, use the plastic and much hollow inside. can't direct cooling deck.

@pawnipt Год назад

Did the steamdeck gain any clock speed with the provided cooling and if so is that the reason it did not cool it very well???

@Tb0n3 Год назад

Phones are different since they use the case to provide cooling. This allows a device like this to just directly thermally interface with the chip. The steam deck has an air gap for air flow so you're just cooling the case without really affecting the actual chips.

@pawnipt Год назад

@@Tb0n3 That too but the clock speeds were not even shown during the temperature change. Are you saying that they do not boost or change at all depending on the temperature? Don't all Ryzen processors do that?

@GGriffeyIII Год назад

Taking me back to my short foray into engineering. Peltier is used a lot in medical testing machines

@virtualme5554 Год назад

Feels like it is just cooling the plastic back….not really making any impact on the cpu…not a good test…so the nature of the test is in question…

@jackmakackov7077 Год назад

be careful. lots of consoles in the past have been bricked by third party cooling

@SeraphX2 Год назад

"indie games will be much less" Sure, if they are optimized properly. I bet Valheim, with its shitty coding, runs pretty hot.

@GirlOnAQuest Год назад

Better used on my forehead for headaches.

@CheapBastard1988 Год назад

Peltier cooling is interesting tech, but the cooling consumes more energy than the chip that it's cooling does. And of course, there's the condensation problem.

@srvuk Год назад

You left us with a cliff hanger, waiting for the finale. It would be interesting to see what kinds of SBC these would be of use with.

@Dia1Up Год назад

You also need to show fan speed. The Steam Decks target is 85 degrees. So it could be cooling just fine, but the fan isn't ramping at all

@BreeZieDoesiT Год назад

Couldn't you just set a custom fan speed through decky loader to compensate for the change in thermal loss?

@vanakis Год назад

On the topic: there was a post on Reddit recently where someone actually extended the heat pipe to outside of the case to a copper plate, where they placed one of those little fans. Incredible stuff

@aditya_gupta Год назад

Linus tech tips did similar

@mhtweeter Год назад

that would be me haha. its a pretty effective mod tbh

@dinervc9582 Год назад

@@mhtweeter that’s you frfr?

@celozzip Год назад

@@dinervc9582 no cap bro

@maikeru6158 Год назад

Only problem is the vrm (or memory, can’t remember which) is cooled by the air being sucked in through the holes, if you move the cooling outside the internal fans spin less, and you risk your other components overheating

@DaDonMega Год назад

Do the magnets affect the steam decks internal fan?

@keepwatchingthat Год назад

I'd imagine it would be the same as the dbrand case where it would only effect the specific fan

@LuminousSpace Год назад

another thing worries me is condensation.... this thing produce lots of water droplets

@mechanicalmonk2020 Год назад

Yes because all other methods of cooling the Deck are magical

@umamifan Год назад

Ya the title of the vid is funny. "With science" well how else would he cool it?

@sotosmatthew3046 Год назад

@@umamifan with ice cubes 😂

@jeffguan3786 Год назад

Hey your video ended abruptly as you were saying your results. Just a heads up ETA Prime!

@jt3000o Год назад

That's weird I've never had my steam deck go over 70° in any game

@patron7906 Год назад

I was playing Vampire Survivors and mine blew up in my face

@2jkvqq Год назад

@@patron7906 try disabling updated fan control in settings

@BeetleBuns Год назад

@@2jkvqq he can't, it blew up

@jayrowe6473 Год назад

@@BeetleBuns ...in his face.

@umamifan Год назад

@@jayrowe6473 Vampire Survivors...

@Dave-kh6tx Год назад

thermal pads may help heat transfer a little but we are still dealing with the plastic. if you cut a hole and used a copper shim or plate would probably help a lot. have you tried turning it around and letting air blow in intake?

@theterriblegamer1228 Год назад

Did you check to see if the TDP and Average FPS increased with the cooler? ~83 degrees may be the thermal limit and the steam deck may push the hardware harder as long as it has the thermal overhead to do so. If so, then the real-time temp may not be the whole story.

@baanchiau Год назад

Not so much fun when there is aposibility of condensate within the deck itself.

@samgoff5289 Год назад

Exactly, you gain nothing from this except the possibility of condensation

@Pytony_98 Год назад

Distilled water is not so conductive, so not a big concern

@mbertolijr Год назад

There needs to be a thermal transfer between that plate and the back of the steam deck for those coolers to do a good job. The hit air in between isn’t a good thermal conductor. I’d be interested in see the results of the cooler being directly attached to the metal plate.

@LamontJohnson23 Год назад

Damn, blast from the past. Used a panel between my Celeron and huge air cooler back in the day. Overclock heaven.

@ETAPRIME Год назад

Yeah I’m pretty sure a few companies tried marketing a full on cooler with this build in

@H31MU7 Год назад

@@ETAPRIME didn't Cooler Master try that with their V10 heatsink

@razortotal Год назад

@@ETAPRIME Hi, JSAUX back cover has place for this.

@thefatmoop Год назад

Peltiers are very inefficient heat pumps (why theyre not common outside of gimmicks like this)

@cicada974 Год назад

It's basically useless but if you can mod it and maybe replace the steam fan and with this it may actually works we love to see that

@suhtangwong Год назад

They make plastic back end shell for the steam deck with metal circle that you can attach to. Maybe that will work better?

@sm0ki Год назад

Editing error. Also, don't do this to your steam deck. It won't help to cool it down significantly, but it might cause condensation, especially in humid conditions. That kills the steam deck.

@opiesmith9270 Год назад

That would be distilled water, which is not conductive at all really. So it’s not as big of a risk as one might assume. Not that it’s worth it at all.

@kodeypatterson8973 Год назад

Sooo the cooler is useless

@BeetleBuns Год назад

could also be actively harmful with that condensation

@zydiz Год назад

@ETAPRIME mate, the vid cuts off abruptly, nice tests tho!

@MoeGravey Год назад

Dbrands "Project Killswitch" was redesigned due to an issue with the recessed magnets interfering with the internal fan of certain Decks. so careful adding magnets to your steam deck, or any device for that matter.

@Juice8767 Год назад

Jsaux has a back shell that they're selling now that has a metal plate over the fan area, I'm super curious to how that backplate would work with one of these coolers

@RobertBratuOfficial Год назад

The ending of the video is nice!

@vigtorm Год назад

bathroom #2

@DjDiversant Год назад

Need a metal backplate or a cooler that will blow hot air out.

@GabTheDrummer Год назад

Could you try the cooler from Jsaux?

@_GarethRossUK Год назад

they cloned it and the origonal does demo 18*c drop and at least 12-13*c minimum fall.

@orangutanvintage Год назад

Someone owes Linus money😅

@vmarcelo49 Год назад

the video was cut off

@seljd Год назад

Jsaux has a transparent back plate for Steam Deck with a thermal plate above the CPU, might work better with that

@J2digital Год назад

Time to slap it on the back of the metal plate haha. Was there any performance increase with the "thermal headroom" that those provided how you had them attached/how they instructed? Also would be cool to see that on the back of an overclocked and jailbroken Switch. On the back of the plastic and right on top of the heat sink.

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@mercuriete Год назад

Sorry but from my eyes I Saw a increase from 43 to 45 fps. Could be placebo effect. If you don't put the fps limit, the temperatures never go down but the fps go up. I recommend you to limit 40 fps and then redo the experiment.

@BowsettesFury Год назад

Dang look at that monster cooler. Never knew they were made so big 😂 looks effin sweet.

@Veowolf5847 Год назад

I got the bigger option just wanted to point something out. The steamdeck will raise and lower the clock speed of the gpu and cpu depending on how hot it gets. That's the reason why he's not seeing much difference temp wise but if he had the next level up in performance osd he would see his clock speed go up after placing the cooler