Kim should remember where her "net worth" came from. If she doesn't want to continue work the show, that's one thing. But to be so publicly hateful...that says a lot about HER, no one else.
@@crystaldianestevens4553 I know, you're right. Kim is an ingrate. That show, and SJP especially, gave her her career. If your relationship changes, don't be such a bitch about it publicly. Show some class. (Assuming you've watched the crap KC has said about SJP).
@@JustCristi000 Exactly!! More often than not, Carrie had me feeling frustrated. She was self-serving, self-pitying, entitled, and only thought about herself. I don’t understand why her friends hang out with her.
"In 2002, the cast of “Friends” successfully negotiated their historic $1 million-per-episode pay deals. How did they pull that off? The simple answer is that all six cast members negotiated together. That meant that each one would be paid the same or they would all leave the hit show"
That is so sad. especially when SJP wouldn't do nudity and Kim was basically nude in every episode. Carrie was boring and Samantha made the show. was that 64 million for the whole 6 seasons or just the movies?
I’m a fan of all four actresses. However, learning that Kim was silently bullied by the other three actresses for absolutely no reason proves to me how much more professional Cattral is as an actress watching all of her incredible performances. SJP is passive aggressive and I’m not interested in her BS comment, “ that’s not how I remember it.” #TeamKim
3 against 1 is just... terrible. If this is true, shame on Nixon and Davis for joining in the cliquey move. Doing so enabled SJP. Of course, assuming all this is accurate. But it's sad to hear these mid30s women can't just work together when they were sharing in such an incredible once-in-a-lifetime experience.
Kim was negotiating better salaries for them while the others were ok with it vs not being on the show at all. Now, Kim had a lot more screen time, nudes, and even interesting stories at times than Sarah. So, why not make more money? Why can Sarah get Warner deals and not Catrall just bc she was the “lead”??
@@unpopularopinion2594 I think all 4 of them should have gotten equal pay since all 4 contributed to the success of the show. All 4 of them is equally important.
Kim Cattral stole every scene, and it stands to reason that it was difficult for SJP. And Kim had every right to "demand" more money, because she was the spark in the show. Another YT channel recently had an interview with a crew member who said Kim was the crew's clear favorite and they would actually clap and cheer for Kim after scenes cut. So even the crew felt Kim's spark!
SJP was a executive producer for the show , thus commanded and deserved a bigger paycheck for doing much more work!! Kim was a fading B to C movie actress at best before the show and she let the shows success and jealousy go to her head . But n stead of using it as a springboard to other projects. She did no additional work off season like her co stars.
Parker signed up to be the main attraction. Kim was the breakout star. Parker got jealous and created a mean girl clique with the other two. Kim eventually walked away.
@@fairlind Podcast, interviews. To be fair I rarely cry over rich Hollywood actors, these 2 women are no exception, but the whole scenario - supporting actress overshadowing "the star" - is very realistic. Also, I have seen KC on TV in the UK a lot, and she never ever trashed SJP. However, anyone being bullied by 3!!! others and being lied about has a right to self-defence. So forgive her for trying to explain the situation. Just check how much money they've made while Sam's character was often carrying the show. But she was at least as important as the other 3.
I really felt they trashed Samantha's character viciously in the second movie. It was almost unbearable to watch. Cattrall was right to try to stand up for her character's personal value.
I completely agree. After about the fourth season it felt like Samantha’s plots were kind of mean and degrading. Kim still pulled them off, but it felt like the writers had a grudge against her.
@@hdubbs9174 or maybe, just maybe, her character didn't really have anywhere to go. She already fu cked half of NY and didn't want to settle down or anything. So what then? And I loved her acting the most!
@@susivarga7303 I agree, there isn't more to tell for any of the women. But, I also I feel the writers did Kim dirty, by putting her character in awkward and honestly cringe-worthy situations. There were rumors that Brady (17) was going to sext Samantha in SATC 3. KC put her foot down in the bot mitzvah episode, where they wanted her to have some weird boasting match about her sexual prowess against 13-year-old Jenny Briar.
@@hdubbs9174 Jeez, that's humiliation and bullying at its finest. Her narrow characterisation maybe had nowhere to go, but she could have still faced aging, menopause, etc in her usual funny way. I loved her and Charlotte the most, Miranda second. Carrie - brrrrr. I could never identify with her Manolo thing.
@Patricia Zoerner I’ve never missed an episode & have seen the movies but I can’t recall how Sam was trashed in the 2nd movie. What happened? I admit to having seen the first movie a dozen or so times but only watched the 2nd once.
Down fall? Um, that show is a major hit. Even the people who hate it - watch it. HBO doesn't normally order ANOTHER 10 Episodes for season 2 after the first few episodes.
I'm so glad Kim won that fight. Her character really went through one humiliating experience after another, and they spat on her face in Just like that too.
@@ms.b9093 it was done mostly because fans were going crazy and AJLT became a shitshow 😂😂. Look at the number of likes in all the AJLT clips and the one minute clip with Samantha's phonecall. You will know why .
And its disgusting how they adress samantha in the new season. They say in the show that carrie fired her and didnt want to be her"atm" and thats why samantha moved to london. Thats a obvious jab for kim.
@@freebee8221 That little dig at Samantha/Kim made me so mad. Anyone who has ever watched SATC knew that despite everything, Samantha Jones was a professional. She wouldn't have flounced off just because one client no longer needed her services, even if it was a friend. The commissions from Carrie's meagre earnings would have been mere pocket-change for the fabulous Ms. Jones!
Totally on Kim’s side. She was always the true star of the show. SJP couldn’t deal with this so she got petty and jealous and crated a mean girl environment on set. Things changed further once SJP became a producer. Suddenly the writing for Samatha’s character changed and the focus was put back on Carrie. Kim wasn’t afraid to speak her mind on set. It was a toxic environment and with SJP as a producer she was in a higher pay bracket to the other girls. Kim wanted and deserved a pay rise. Kim also didn’t like how Samatha was been written and defended her character as best she could!! What SJP is, is a secret mean girl that plays the nice girl she has everyone falling all over her but Kim who isn’t afraid to call her out on her Bullshit!! Kim doesn’t play the Hollywood game. She’s straight talking British girl who knows her worth!! I bet Kim is laughing at how bad And Just Like That is. It absolutely tanked!!🙃😂😂😂 The digs at Samatha in the script were completely wrong!!🙄 I’m glad however Kim has got the last laugh!! 👌🏼
As Khloe Kardashian pointed out Sarah Jessica Parker is out every night on the town to be an every single magazine for promotion it is anyone to Matthew Broderick had an affair with the nanny she was never home extremely b*****
I hate it when peeps call peeps that are done with bs, “victims or play the victim”. That’s not what she was doing, she was done with this little group keeping her out because “ her character” shined as much as the main character. I have seen the “ Just like that” it’s depressing and omg needs Samantha’s comedy serious. It’s a cash grab and the writers suck. All three are executive producers and one a guest director. Something they all got angry because Kim wanted the same treatment and raise in the prior show. Love Kim.
Parker made herself look small when she railed against Kim Cattrall's popularity and punished her for it. Parker could have capitalized on it and helped herself, her image, her bank account, and her co-stars' bank accounts, but she just wouldn't. I didn't see the new movie cuz I didn't care that much for the show.
I don't know what happened or didn't happen in the sets, nor behind the scenes. But I do know that when I did watch, Kim Cattrall was the draw and for me, the star of the show. I definitely noticed a change under Michael King, of the character. I felt it was shortsighted writing, an attempt at reducing her natural shine and vivaciousness to vulgar promiscuity for the sake of promiscuity. The typical "loose woman" shallow and materialistic. But Kim Cattrall being the magician that she is, managed to take what she was handed and imbue it with life, power, humor and vivacious, vibrant charisma. None but the most uptight could help but loving and celebrating and looking forward to Kim's Samantha, even burdened with the change of tone. That is why, in my mind, SJP's Carrie may have been the lead character, but Kim's Samantha was the true star of the show. Because Sam was in fact the heart and soul of the show, and not just because of her looks, but the actual personality, the fantastic acting, her absence is unfortunately really felt.
If Kim doesn't want to do it, she shouldn't be forced or coerced to. She is in her 60s and maybe she's tired of playing that role, which she is entitled to do so.
@@ticketyboo2456she was the best character. Boring nympho? In what universe? Carrie was annoying as hell, and while charlotte and miranda were okay characters, they would not be enough to carry show.
@@jeanv8249 Carrie was a humorous and open individual with a lot of artistry inside her. All of her outfits were interesting to watch and were a true star of the show, like she’s undeniably fun. Samantha was much more annoying to me, she was stuck on sex, rude and mostly unsurprising to watch. I just knew that all of her scenes would be about her coming to terms with the fact that she wants to love and that she’s too independent to do that. She was your regular modern American bitch.
Kim is a class act and a fabulous actress, I'm a fan from the jump!! She's been a police cadet, a mannequin, a vulcan, took on Lo Pan and a myriad of other characters which sets her apart from the others.
Everyone loved Kim on the set. I listened to a great podcast from one of the people that worked for the show the other day. Everyone loved Kim and Sarah was jealous. Sarah becomes executive producer starts knocking Kim down.
Kim was the sex in the city. That’s why it’s now called just like that. Plus Kims storylines where awful. In the 3rd movie Kim was supposed to have a relationship with Brady (Miranda’s son) You can look it up, yourselves. I’m so glad Kim walked away. The storyline wasn’t good, the money wasn’t worth it.
I get so frustrated with SJ. You know she's a mean girl, but she won't own it. If she would admit that she is who she is and move on, I'd be okay with that. But she keeps trying to play innocent and it really gets to me.
@@Matteuccishane I was listening to someone who worked on set that described it just the opposite. Obviously, I wasn't there. I just heard enough to make me think this.
For anyone trying to say Kim was playing victim, think again. There are too many sources saying just the opposite. People who worked with them, who have specifically said SJP is lying about the ordeal, and that Cynthia Nixon was very unpleasant herself. I think Kim just doesn't take crap from a Narcissist.
@@rebekkad.2092 I was listened someone onset said the opposite about Kim and I believe she mean and greed she is nothing like Samantha. Samantha is fictional character that she play not her real personality.
It’s interesting that SJP doesn’t recall “their experience” being that way… that’s because SHE was the abuser. KC was such a professional that she kept most of it under her hat.
Agreed, Kim did the smart thing by not participating in the reboot. Most TV reboots never do well(look at the recent Will & Grace and Murphy Brown reboot for example) and it looks like the Sex And The City reboot will follow the same fate. Good job Kim for not participating.
It certainly does. I mean the original sex in the city was definitely liberal minded but I didn’t feel like they were trying to cram some kind of woke bullshit philosophy down your throat.
If this tells you anything SJP ànd Matthew Broderick have separate wings of their house. If I were he I'd probably have to be half in the bag to be around the woman!
I’ve seen Kim Cattrall in a couple of things outside SATC, and I wasn’t impressed. It seemed to me she was still playing Samantha. Which is too bad, because she was excellent as Samantha. Maybe she played her too long.
@@Truly1Tom Why do so many people dislike SJP? I don’t know much about her, but the couple of times I’ve seen her respond to things she seemed very gracious.
I’m 100% on Kim’s side! And honestly the second movie was terrible so the definitely didn’t need a third. Now they have a spin off show, and that’s terrible too. They don’t need to keep beating a dead horse ruining SATC legacy.
The fact that I've seen Kim on other tv shows (even staring in one as the main character) I can see why the other actresses were jealous. Most of them got their debut on SATC and never moved up from that, they literally had to do a reboot and play the same characters they played over 20 years. They even had to turn the show into a movie to keep audience interest in the show after past the 90s. Kim stood out. Not her problem she had more potential than the others
I am on Kim’s side and I had exactly same experience of a girl being so friendly, sweet whenever we were with other people around. Then she changed her tone and behavior when there was no one. I definitely understand how she felt. Jeez
The problem was SJP thought she was the talent, the face of the show but actually it was Kim. The issue began because instead of dealing with it like a woman SJP instead acted like a spiteful schoolgirl and it's kind of sad that she chose to be obnoxious.
I never understood why I disliked SJP's character so much. Now I realize that it was my inner antenna picking up on her phony vibes. KC was always a class act that rose above the mediocrity of the writing of her character. Bravo. It is quite amusing that they had to change the name of the show without her, because SHE was the sex in the city.
I had no intention of watching the reboot but was bored this past weekend so decided to binge watch. OMG. What. A. Train. Wreck! The show is absolutely AWFUL!! And I can't believe how long it took me to realize Cattrall was the real star of the show. Her absence is clearly noticeable and without her the other 3 are just floundering about. So good on Cattrall for moving on and retiring this character. She's absolutely right that her character had embarrassing story lines after another. That ain't right! #TeamKim
This just came to me, but maybe they really were throwing shade at her in Just Like That when Samantha left because Carrie refused to be her ATM? That doesn't sound like Samantha at all. Samantha would've been the first one to cancel her services because she was that good at her job to realize she wasn't needed and she would never choose money over her friends.
Samantha always had more money than Carrie, I didn’t get this part at all. Even now Carrie works for someone’s podcast, she doesn’t even have her own one. I can’t
That’s what made it abundantly clear that SJP is the problem here. That line had zero correlation with the two characters, and was absolutely SJP sniping at KC in a nasty passive aggressive way.
I don’t even watch the new series because it’s lame without Kim in the mix. Carrie was too toxic, Charlotte was too antiquated and Miranda was too closed off. Samantha was much more balanced, confident and interesting.
I have been saying all along Sarah Jessica is a worse mean girl, jealous, and into games. Kim is grown and wasn't made to be equal. And I don't even believe that condolences were honest.
Just like there is no TLC without Left Eye, there is no SATC with Samantha! I'm with Kim on this. If your friendship is broken, no about of money or fame can repair it. I feel SJP was always jealous of Kim and the other 2 ladies are just listening to Sarah for they have nothing outside of SATC. Kim doesn't need them.
One report (I no longer recall the source) told it perfectly: SATC was the most cutting edge show at that time. But Kim Cathrall was the most cutting edge character of that cutting edge show. I'll always support Kim Cathrall!
That’s the difference between men and women working together and only women working together… to be quite honest; women hardly ever have each other’s backs!
Friends didn't have a main character, that's why the actors got along better. SJP is the main character of her shows and she demands to be treated as such.
It's a matter of respect, they all shared the same amount of screen time on the show and the same amount of dramatic and hard storylines. What's more, Sarah Jessica Parker was the least explicit despite being the main caracther in a show about sex. They all should have made the same money.
I think the writing is so bad, every two seconds is about how old they are, hip replacements, hearing aids, etc. They went from fabulous to depressing. (maybe that's the lesson if you're fabulous in your 30 you will be falling apart in your 50's lol) It's almost like millennials and misogynistic gay men wrote the script. It's hard for me to believe that women in their 60's wrote the script. I mean Candace Bushnell's actual life is more fabulous that Carrie's. Candace has a broadway show right now and is not worrying about podcasts and is at parties in the Hamptons. The show is a mess.
Samantha was always my favorite mostly because she was actually the better friend. But the situation Kim went through is so deplorable. Glad she’s not on that toxic waste of a show now. And she handled it with grace!
@@pinkjellybean4019 This criticism always makes me laugh. Yeah the show isn't good, but it has nothing to do with trying to be relevant. The old show is basically a time capsule to everything happening at that time, the new show is doing the exact same thing just with things happening now.
I believe Kim. SJP is part of the game of Hollywood and plays it very well doing as she thinks she should to please and keep the people she needed to on side saying all the right things in all the right places. Kim however is a seasoned actress with life experience and doesn’t play the game she does her job well and expects fair treatment and will not stand for Hollywood bull 💩
Too much hearsay and speculation. Should have listened to all the interviews. Kim couldn't steal scenes because Sarah was her boss and chose the final product. Kim was a more experienced actress and was able to make a character real.
I'm Team Kim all the way! Compare the two women in interviews...Kim gives genuine, concise, inclusive & honest answers whilst SJP is all me me me word salad. Sarah is a narcissist who hated that Kim's character was more beloved and more popular than her whiney, self absorbed Carrie Bradshaw. She took her vengeance by getting an executive producer spot on the show & proceeded to influence the show runners to make Samantha as ridiculous as possible. Note how bad Kim's wardrobe and her storyline got after season 2...SJP is a b!tch
Exactly. Remember how they all made fun of Samantha's so called pot belly? All the jokes about her eating her feelings? What was all that about? Just no need for it. Just another way to belittle the character.
@@Hunny1au Absolutely agree...there were so many instances where the other three mocked & ridiculed Samantha. And you just know SJP had a hand in that...
I TOTALLY BELIEVE KIM CATTRALL... SOMETIMES YOU ARE THE ONE ON THE OUTS... I HAVE BEEN THERE.... IT'S DIFFICULT. BUT WALKING AWAY FROM MILLIONS... THERE HAS TO BE SOME TOXICITY TO THE ENVIRONMENT... I WANT KIM TO GET A GREAT ROLE AND NEVER LOOK BACK...
At the end of the day, they're just COWORKERS . And how can you get mad at someone because they don't want the JOB. And if you accept a job without asking about pay, you're a fool.
Good for you Kim Cattrall for standing up for what you believe in! I applaud you! I decided not to watch the newest SATC for two reasons, there is no Samantha Jones and enough is enough with SATC…what’s next….do we see them in nursing homes or retirement homes pushing a walker or something? Sometimes you just have to leave well enough alone. The original series was cute and I enjoyed it but after that it was too much! Carrie got Big at the end and that was the best place to leave it so the viewer can use their own imagination as to where the story and characters went! Otherwise it just ruins it imho!
What “beautiful” script are they talking about? The disastrous reboot is somewhat based on the 3rd movie script minus the Samantha story. If the leaked scripts are true Brady supposed to have a crush on Samantha and she supposedly flirted back, if it’s true it’s more than disgusting, no wonder Kim didn’t want any part of it. This dreadful reboot with atrocious writing and terrible acting just proves that Kim made the right decision. Money is not everything.
I recall Kim had reflected during an interview after the SATC second movie that there was nowhere else to take the Samantha character, hence SATC 3 never happened. Just like real life, the characters would need to grow and mature. Kim is ten years older than all the other girls so it isn't surprising that she felt no incentive to reprise Samantha again because she knew what worked for her character at a younger age would not be attractive present day. It is no surprise that the two movies were not received as well as the original series. Kim is a very good actress and more than likely saw the writing on the wall that the reboot was a very bad idea. Not being a part of this train wreck proved Kim's point. Why would she choose to have her career spiral over some BS reboot that clearly was made for one reason and that was to cash in. I applaud Kim for standing up for herself as her reputation meant more to her than a paycheck.
@@alemapd13 Kim didn’t want to do any of the movies either, but she did it for the fans. But she said it correctly “it was best when it was the series and the bonus were the 2 movies”. She choose integrity over 10 million dollars and I applaud her for it! This reboot is a shameful money grab for everyone involved. Never seen such atrocious writing and bad acting. Kim had great independent projects - Meet Monica Velour , Sensitive Skin, she did several plays on the West End and she was great in them!
@@DavidVarkonyi I couldn't agree with you more! I can only imagine what these inept writers would have had in store for Kim's character. No doubt she is having the last laugh and it is well-deserved!
Kim had her own career compared to Sarah. The only thing I can remember Sarah being in before sex and the city was Annie when she was a kid. Rather Kim was in quite a few movies.
SJP I remembered from 'Girls just wanna have fun' in the 80s, with Helen Hunt, SJP was a horrible actor then too and the other characters made the movie, it was quite popular. Helen Hunt was in a Matthew Broderick film too after that, at the height of his fame after Ferris Beuller, they were all in the same circles when they were young. I remember SJP having a few small or background roles in those 80s movies, not main character roles. She was around after the early 80s brat pack days which had already introduced Kim on a mainstream scale with Andrew McCarthy in Mannequin etc. Definitely Kim had a 'main character movie' career that SJP never had.
This is not true. Sarah Jessica was in " Footloose". She was the lead in her movies " If Lucy Fell" and "Miami Rhapsody". She starred with Bruce Willis, Nick Cage and Johnny Depp in 3 films and was in "Mars attacks" and " Ed Wood" both directed by famed Tim Burton and " Hocus pocus" There is no need to disminish all her hard work for a story no one knows about except the people there.
@@Lilyrush681 Noting that her 80s roles were mostly not main roles and having small roles is not diminishing her work. I'm not surprised that's all she got. She did not have a main role in Footloose. -If Lucy fell and Miami Rhapsody weren't in the 80s, they were in the 90s, so were Ed Wood and Mars attacks in the 90s - 10 years after Kim was established and had major roles throughout the 80s. SJP was not getting major roles in the 80s as her fellow stars like Helen Hunt and Matthew Broderick were. Shannan Doherty was also in 'Girls just want to have fun' and gained popularity from the role much younger than SJP.
Kim Cattrall is getting the last laugh because "and just like that " is a failure in a big way. Kim did well to not return. And it has nothing to do with the scandle with Chris Noth. The writers chose to go woke cancel culture all the way and the show sucks. They ruined the series and damaged the memory of it forever.
everyone in showbiz seems to side with Parker which doesn't surprise me at all. it kind of reminds me of Weinstein case actually. not only is Parker a lead, she's also a producer (if I remember correctly), of course people will kiss her ass no matter what.
I’m team Kim. I just believe what she says about SJP. She also deserved to be paid accordingly, she made that show and the disparity between the salaries was ridiculous, she was owed more.
The first time I saw Kim Catrall on-screen was in this disney movie called Ice Princess where she played a hardcore coach/mom (I was too young to watch satc when it first aired so this was my initial introduction to her as an actress) and I always thought she did a phenomenal job. And that was a completely different character than Samantha Jones! She has so much range.
I knew there was real beef between them after that one scene where Sarah yelled at Kim in a lingerie store... that joint seemed REAL and Kim looked honestly heartbroken. As I watched I wondered if they were having real on set issues
It’s a bitch when the character actress who was the lead ( Parker) character became eclipsed by a more beautiful leading lady playing a comic sexual clown. The character of Sam Jones absolutely was the breathe of fresh air device surrounding the other 3 woman’s rather tense and depressingly neurotic yet hilarious plot lines. Samantha became the levity and cemented the NYC sex addict confident person that is so prominent in NYC. Without her beautiful blonde earthy confidence slicing through escapades while the others were playing out those tensions the show would have been obnoxious. As seasons grew heavier and more intense, Samantha became dominant as a go to for this needed levity. In the end she was everyone’s favorite. Of course she wanted more money. Dorky Miranda , childish and fearful Charlotte and neurotic/ approval desperate Carrie all were very entertaining but Cattrall’s performance along with script was the most satisfying on screen. It was like a drug. Its sad the other three just can’t compete with Cattrall. SJP clearly felt she was the lead and thus should be top dog. Because the script was written that way. But this DOES happen in theatre where a secondary role makes the entire show and everyone falls in love with the performer and goes back again and again for their on stage moments. Consequently the rest of the cast is appreciated, yet not lauded. This is entirely what happened with SATC. I enjoyed the series and all the characters did very well with the material. That said, Kim Cattrall was really kinda everything in those 9 years. The other three were more brittle. The reboot is natural that she isn’t there. Of course she moved to the UK and moved on. People like her always leave the city by 60. The other three were younger and less confident and more invested in NY than Samantha for the answer to everything. Sam Jones was global. No matter where the series went she was that older friend that was wise ON SO many subjects, beautifully tough and full of candor that everyone seeks in a NYC friend/mentor. In short- gold.They should have given everything to Cattrall in any demands she asked for. They would have done the third film and it would have ended.
I rewatched SATC Season 1 to 6. SJP's character is just so irritating at times. I love Samantha Jones and Miranda Hobbs' character. Kim Cattrall is the true SATC Queen. I miss her and Smith. 💜🤍
Its hard to know the full truth, but I am more likely to side with Kim on this. I've been in similar situations - being older than other coworkers who form cliques out of their immaturity and I have to just sit tight and put up with it. I hate that. I get what Kim experienced.