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A timetable diaster?! | Failed Franchises #22: Virgin Cross Country 

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Hello & welcome to the twenty-second episode of my Failed Franchises series. In this series I look at train companies that have failed at their franchise agreements or have been criticised by passengers & industry alike to decide whether or not an operator is a failure or not. Today is the fourthepisode of my Virgin Trains operators mini-series where I look at the operations of Virgin Trains. Today we will look at the first Virgin franchise to cease operations: Virgin Cross Country.
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Комментарии : 31   
@Vanmanyo
@Vanmanyo 2 дня назад
Apologies for what may be slightly lower volume than normal - it sounded fine on both my PC and mobile but I will fix it for following videos if it is an issue :) A huge thanks to those who have allowed me to use their footage for todays video - whom without this video would not be possible to make; www.youtube.com/@BrianTuckerRailvideos www.youtube.com/@A60stock (Fred Ivey) www.youtube.com/@agdenyer www.youtube.com/@paulbarlow2527
@AquaValet2009
@AquaValet2009 День назад
The complaints about Virgin Trains having an ageing fleet were laughable for southern region commuters who were still riding Mk1 based slam doors whilst Virgin's fleet featured air conditioned Mk2s and Mk3 carriages.
@77smp
@77smp День назад
The introduction of the voyagers was a massive mistake. They never had the capacity required and that is still the main issue with the Cross-country network. Like your videos, very informative 🙂
@chrisoconnor9521
@chrisoconnor9521 День назад
Replacing 7-8 carriage trains with 4-5 carriage ones...who the actual f*** thought this was a smart idea?
@Vanmanyo
@Vanmanyo День назад
I think the theory was 'if we replace an hourly 7/8 car train with 2tph 4 car trains we will be fine" except for the fact that doubling frequency usually results in an increase of passenger numbers. Once again a failure because they were almost too successful - but should have anticipated passenger growth
@chrisoconnor9521
@chrisoconnor9521 День назад
@@Vanmanyo yeah they seriously screwed up and thought short term gains obviously
@EuroDC1990
@EuroDC1990 День назад
Virgin Cross Country, I'd say had many of the right ideas but implemented very very badly. Much of it comes down to the fact though that Cross Country have for far too long not been treated as a proper intercity franchise. The franchise map needs re-drawing, more services need to be incorporated as Cross Country services (Liverpool to Norwich if it's not being split, Cardiff to Portsmouth and I'm sure there's others) and they need to be operated by suitable rolling stock. 4 or 5 car trains just doesn't work long distance, you need 8-10 carriages long distance and 5-7 for medium distance to allow people to be comfortable and to allow for future growth. It's probably also worth looking at the purpose of Cross Country and whether there's journeys they shouldn't do - Should they really operate beyond Edinburgh or Plymouth? I'd say not but the relevant ScotRail and GWR services would need strengthening to account for losing those services. Sadly in the current system that sort of joined up thinking rarely happens. In the short term though I just hope that Cross Country are able to take on the 222s, they're excellent trains and the increase in capacity that would be gained from taking those on would be a great start in sorting out the issues.
@jackbarrowclough1739
@jackbarrowclough1739 День назад
It's bizarre why the Voyagers were ordered as 4/5 car when the Pendolinos were ordered as 9 car and 11 later on
@bus131
@bus131 День назад
Voyagers should never have been built as 4 car units. Should have been 8 or 9 car units from the off. Shame Alstom can’t manufacture more carriages now
@keirrobinson4156
@keirrobinson4156 День назад
The Voyagers were built by Bombardier, not Alstom...
@thetrainguy1
@thetrainguy1 День назад
​@@keirrobinson4156 Alstom Owns Bombardier's assets and designs.
@Danse_Macabre_125
@Danse_Macabre_125 21 час назад
​@@keirrobinson4156Bombardier was bought by Alstom.
@bus131
@bus131 19 часов назад
@@keirrobinson4156 Bombardier was brought out by Alstom in 2021, so whilst made by Bombardier in the early 2000's, anything these days is Alstom
@jimbo6059
@jimbo6059 День назад
Did Arriva not take it over after virgin cross country. They got rid of my Sussex Scot. Good video though. I used to use the Sussex Scot from Redhill to Kensington Olympia.
@mattevans4377
@mattevans4377 День назад
I think it's only former operators, but I could be wrong
@AbsoluteTVYT
@AbsoluteTVYT День назад
They didn't get rid of it; the government did by removing it from the franchise requirements and the paths being given up to GTR.
@jimbo6059
@jimbo6059 День назад
@@AbsoluteTVYT Bloody GTR, The only failing franchise to get rewarded by getting more strings to its bow.
@MidlandMainlineMadnessandmore
@MidlandMainlineMadnessandmore День назад
Lmao was that a police 47 at the start
@MatthewHarding007
@MatthewHarding007 День назад
Sure was
@kevanhubbard9673
@kevanhubbard9673 День назад
VXC were chaos Branson style.Naturally he blamed the old stock nothing to do with Sir Richard to quote Obi Wan Kenobi, probably borrowed from Plato's Republic or the like,'with great power comes great responsibility '.
@Andrewjg_89
@Andrewjg_89 День назад
Until Richard Branson and Virgin Trains lost the Cross-country franchise and Arriva took over the CrossCountry franchise as we know of today. Mind you CrossCountry just like ScotRail should have kept the Class 43 HSTs.
@IDeltic
@IDeltic День назад
Those 4 car 220s are the reason why I actively avoid CrossCountry trains when planning journeys, especially long distance ones. I am not standing squashed between people and luggage for 2+ hours, because you WILL be on those services.
@presfieldgoalie
@presfieldgoalie День назад
Great memories of going to Nan's on Virgin Cross Country but then, that's from the perspective of a 5-10 year old who isn't really worried about being anywhere on time.
@keirrobinson4156
@keirrobinson4156 День назад
Anyone who thinks Virgin XC were a failed franchise 1) has clearly never experienced Arriva XC, and 2) wasn't a traveller on the Manchester-Scotland route when TPE took over those services immediately after and lumbered us with the even slower, even shorter 185s.
@Anonymoususer_8823
@Anonymoususer_8823 День назад
Do you think that Virgin Crosscountry was the best train operator that run service from the North of England and Scotland all the way down to Southern England. Including Southampton, Bournemouth, Portsmouth, Brighton, Exeter and Plymouth. Or was Virgin Crosscountry lacking a lot and didn’t provide the best train service that saw the franchise collapse and Virgin Trains lost the Cross-country franchise. And didn’t have the best rolling stock to compete with other rival train operators.
@majorchaos2006
@majorchaos2006 20 часов назад
They did well bringing in the new fleets of pendolinos and voyagers but they missed a trick by not having the voyager trains with more carridges as they were always crowded. I recently took a trip from rugby to Truro and purosley went via London as I knew the train from Birmingham would be packed
@AaronLaw92
@AaronLaw92 10 часов назад
Cross Country have been abysmal since, still using the Voyagers for now....
@martineyles
@martineyles 22 часа назад
Is the performance of the Voyagers and Super Voyagers actually a huge upgrade over the HSTs? They have the same top speed after all. Do they improve in terms of acceleration?
@qtrainprod
@qtrainprod 11 часов назад
You know its a good video when Vanmanyo starts with "Hellœ"
@olivergeorge4394
@olivergeorge4394 День назад
VANMANYO!!! TODAY IS A GREAT DAY!🎉
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