Everyone is talking about how Jack's sacrifice was pointless or that he was a hero, but no one is going to talk about the drunken baker who threw the debris out of the ship so people would hang onto something?
@꧁༒ⱤɨCʞƔ༒꧂ My bad, I didn't know a reply from a random internet person could hurt your ego this badly. Me the attention beggar? That's rich coming from you.
Uhh... It's For YOUR Survival Your "Survival Instinct" Will Automatically Work Their Best To Ensure Your Chance Of Survival (The Best Possible Chance Is..... Jack Didn't Know That Lifejacket Can Help Floating, And Didn't Think That Way Too 😅)
@@imashadow699 i think you’re probably right for the most part, but i also think some people might not have done that because of all the panic, hence why i said *may* in my previous comment. i was not saying everyone would be that way. there’s unfortunately probably a chance with some people out there (considering how many of us there are and how many were on the titanic) that they would respond differently to others in their instincts; especially during total panic in the freezing water, and especially if hyperthermia was majorly setting in. plus, some people didn’t even try to escape the ship, they literally just gave up
@@mazzystars think mood meant for the second time when she had already left her family and been for jack. She came back and got on another but jumped of onto the ship as it was going down and found Jack again
@@mazzystars omg are you stupid? U said you watch the movie? We meant that after rose saved jack from being handcuffed rose ride a boat going down and jump back to the boat.
While I don't dispute the idea that both Jack & Rose would have been able to share the space on the DoorFrame, I still would argue that if they did so, as the MythBusters demonstrate in this video, they would have both been partially submerged with 20% of their bodies exposed to the water and would face severe hypothermia, or at the very least major frostbite. Keep in Mind: during the actual sinking of the Titanic, the water was −2 °C, which is lethally cold and would kill most people in 15 minutes of exposure, and that's if your body didn't go into immediate shock. And even then, several of the people pulled out of the water would still succumb to hypothermia (only 6 people pulled out of the water survived). Hell, one of the collapsible boats during the event was partially submerged with a foot of water, and several of its occcupants died of hypothermia in the night. So personally, I doubt that, realistically, Jack & Rose would have both survived on that frame had they shared it.
@@jonathanSpg Yes, They _Try_ to get on the Debris, but they slide off doing so, so Jack holds the debris while Rose climbs on. And even then she is _barely_ above the waterline from her weight
@@cdagyekybcrpaa Maybe, maybe not. That's for the plot to decide. And how much more tragic would it have been if they'd both died, and there was no older Rose telling the story, but rather the movie opened with the people who discovered the Titanic's ruins discovering Jack's drawing and the story unfolding afterwards is simply for the audience?
@@mejiacusca Well, actually freshwater freezes at 0 •C, but sea water freezes at roughly -2° C. Water also doesn't freeze in the vast open ocean since it is always in motion with currents (water in the poles freezes because there is less current flow in those regions).
@@robertveith6383 the true test of intelligence is whether or not you understood what was being said. Pedantically pointing out how to use you're is just a plea for a cookie. So here's your 🍪
Rose: I’ll never let go, Jack...I’ll never let go... *4 minutes later* Rose: *unclips Jack’s hand from the raft* Jack as a ghost: *am i a joke to you??*
She had no choice he was dead he froze to death and she had to do what jack said she would do is that she would survive and go on and get married and have kids and die at a old age in her bed
My theory is that Jack didn't get on the door, even though he could fit, because his strength was failing. Icy water literally shuts down your body bit by bit within a minute. He didn't have the strength to balance it out, and he couldn't pull himself aboard, because his muscles were too cold. Rose's body was also shutting down too, leaving her with no strength to pull him up. I made this theory because a real life couple in Collapsible Lifeboat A actually died exactly like this, one dangling in the water, while one held on for as long as he could while he succumbed to the icy water that had flooded the lifeboat.
My theory is that the director didn't want him to get on the door so that he would die, and then years later, people like you would still be talking Bout Jack's death
Caster Gil and if that was found out your life would be ruined forever by her family, and everyone would hate you and you would never find a job ever, think ahead before you make a choice
You know nothing about science man, it was freezing cold at that time in atlanti ocean... if jack uses it it would submerged the door deeper which eventually brough hypothermia to both of them and both wouln't stay longer before the rescue comes in
James Cameron has said that Jack needed to die for the audience to feel the loss of the thousand+ real people. We were hoping for a happy ending and Rose and Jack to have a great life together. Most of the people that died were coming to America with the hope of a great life or at the very least a better life than the one that they had left behind.
What's the point? When they did this, people would still comment and say it couldn't be done.He didn't get on the door because it was in the script, but the point is that he could have.
Jack is representing those people who have lost their lives and Rose is representing those who have lost their loved ones that night. Titanic had a tragic end, that's why the movie was made in that way and at the end Jack had to die. It would've been worse if there was happy ending as it is not supposed to be.
Given the two were already freezing, I doubt they would have had the dexterity or clear enough heads to actually pull this off or even think of it in the first place.
especially given the fact that they both tried to get on and then the thing capsized, so you tried once, failed, are freezing to death, and don't have the luxury to keep trying for an hour until you figure it out ala mythbusters.
Sally Smith - Still far from Northern Atlantic. Plus the stress and temperature factor. Your brain is at a survival stage and is not quite working properly. I live in Québec and we live in Northern temperatures. That type of cold really alters pour way of thinking.
But you're forgetting the others in the water as well. Splashing and flailing about trying to find something to climb onto. That doesn't make the water very calm. Even in the movie someone was trying to drag her down into the water because it was something or someone to hold onto to possibly get some stability. Not an expert in the least bit but if you've actually paid attention in the movie you would have seen that no matter what was attempted either Jack or Rose would have died. In this case Jack gave his life for Rose. Is it really that hard for people to grasp?
I couldn't help but notice that they did this experiment in a calm lake when the current in the scene was the opposite. I think what people are forgetting is that it wasn't just the size of the door but how heavy the currents were. Rose could barely get on it by herself and she had Jack help her up because the current wasn't still.
This was filmed in San Francisco Bay by Treasure Island, San Francisco bay is a mix of salt water and fresh water at a salinity of 0-25 ppt with Treasure Island being somewhere in the middle of these two figures, the North Atlantic has a salinity level of 37. Because saltwater is denser (1025 kg/m3) than fresh (1000 kg/m3), objects, including humans, are better able to float in saltwater. If anything it would have been easier to float in the N. Atlantic in calm conditions rather than San Franciso Bay in similarly calm conditions due to the above reasoning.
@@rockyroad241Yep. The sea was calm the night Titanic sank, but the calm did abate in later days, which is why it was crucial that Carpathia showed up when it did.
Rashad. bullshit, they literally just macguyvered there way off of a death ship, running through flooding halls, dodging bullets and trying to save people. You don't all of the sudden become dimwitted. If anything the situation they were in in the water was less stressful than when they were on the boat.
Everyone talked about Jack, Rosie, etc, but did you guys know the Violinist scene from the movie, where the musicians kept playing, WAS REAL? The short version of the story: when the musicians of the ship noticed they were doomed, they talked and noticed their role as humans - and musicians - was to soothe people's souls. So, they decided to play until the end, trying to bring comfort to the others. Well, all of them died and, later, the violin of the violinist, who was the leader of the band, was retrieved from the Titanic remains. It was all greyed by the years below water. It had one (or two?) strings left. I saw an article and a picture of it sometime around 5 years ago. The violin went to an auction and was sold for a small fortune (I can't remember how much, but if I'm not mistaken it was around 2 million dollars). The violin was regarded until today as a token of true altruism, love for Humanity and selflessness.
Also these are 2 grown men. Rose is probably substantially lighter then they are and Leo (jack) was a small young adult back then. So the door would have definitely been able to stay afloat and keep them out of the water.
True, however it was the freezing Atlantic and both would have been panicking. It is likely they could have been able to both get on, but Jack was panicking and didn't think through how they could distribute their weight successfully, so sacrificed himself thinking it was all he could do.
He wasn't panicking - he was exhausted and weak and neither of their fingers would have worked well enough in that cold, plus with all the panicking and choppiness around them it would be hard to see what they were doing, hard to balance on the door whilst doing it all... Where exactly would they hang out whilst prepping the door and by the time it was prepped, would whoever didn't get to be on it while it was being prepped still have the strength to climb on board once ready? How did they know that if Jack upset the door and Rose fell off, she would have the strength to try and get back on a third time? How did they know that if Rose started to die without her lifebelt, they would have been able to get it off the door and back onto her? And if they'd had to do that, how would they both have survived anyway? It's just impossible.
@Eri Chan Yeah, was kind of thinking as I typed! But I suppose that illustrates the point that we just can't proclaim something needless or inevitable at immediately obvious face value.
In reality both Jack and Rose would have died BEFORE the ship totally sank of hypothermia because they had already spent a lot of time in freezing water when he was handcuffed to a pipe (or whatever it was) in the lower decks and the cold icy water was rushing in. They were actually up to their necks in that freezing water for quite some time until they found a way out.
@Rocky Road The less amount of time you spent in the freezing water, the greater the survival rate. I assume that man that was found floating on a table or door had only spent no more than a minute in the freezing water before climbing on top of it. Unlike Rose who altogether spent ages in freezing water. I don't think alcohol per se would help keeping you alive in the water a bit longer, rather ANY large amount of calories consumed would, because calories equates to energy which also equates to heat. But yeah, if you know the ship is sinking, you might as well get wasted. It would help with the nerves and could save your life! lol
Keep in mind, though: What kind of life would they have had in the post tragedy, anyway? In 1912, a marriage between a rich girl and a poor boy would’ve been STRONGLY frowned upon.
It's easy to think up a quick fix of putting the lifejacket on the board when you're in no danger. When you're freezing your ass off and terrified, ideas don't pop to mind so readily.
The point of Jack’s death was to underscore the feeling every woman felt that survived the Titanic. All of them lost their husbands to this tragedy. Rose and Jack are not an exception and shouldn’t be given a happy ending for this reason. The movie intended for you to connect with the characters with the dangling hope of survival only for you to be hit by the harsh reality
@@Satheo05 It's ok to digress to that point too though, as it explains why the death was put in there by the writer, physics aside. Doesn't need to be quashed as a point of discussion. I thought this poster put it really, really well.
Greatest love story? We know very little about Jack except he likes to draw naked women. He draws Rose and then has sex with her, what makes you think that wasnt his usual post drawing activity? She was just a fling for him and she threw away her future for him because she desired to be seen by him.
I must have missed the part of the movie where Jack and Rose were engineers who were knowledgeable enough and creative enough under panic-inducing, life-threatening circumstances to think of taking _off_ her life vest and using it to support the raft. The myth isn't busted unless you pretend that Rose and Jack were different people in a different situation.
Exactly. That's the kind of thing experienced, educated people think of in the peace and quiet of a warm, cozy pool. This really reduced my respect for the Mythbusters
Rose is a young woman, and her legs were still half submerged in the movie, i think the 2 of them would be fine, especially when they both look maybe... 290 total, whereas these 2 look 400 lbs combined
One thing people over look about this scene... Rose did try to share the door with Jack. Every time Jack tried to get on the door would dip causing Rose to fall off. Therefore Jack just held on to the door and Rose until she realized he died.
Have you ever tried getting on a raft with other people? They tried getting on it from the same side, so naturally the other side raises into the air. They needed to get onto it from opposing sides to balance out the weight.
after seeing your comment i watched that part again and its certified from the movie that jack only tried to hop on to the door once that also when the door was tilted making its back more into the air. jack should have let rose stabilize on that door first then he should have manuevered the door and climbed on it.
Exactly!!!!! I don’t know why people comment that there was room. Yes there was room. But with both of them it was sinking. It’s a door not a boat. 🤦🏻♀️😂
OK. I admit it, I guess with the life jacket under the wood, both Jack and Rose probably would've survived. But then again, the North Atlantic ocean was below freezing. So even if they thought of that, they wouldn't be able to move due to the low temperature, even out of the water.
Actually this wouldn't have worked because if you look at the life vest that were made back then. The strings were designed only on the backside so they wouldn't of been able to strap it around from both ends
Panic and fear is one of the things that saves a person in peril. Humans are desperate creatures, and find really unique ways to fight back and/or escape. I feel like the initial shock would pass, and the fact that it's cold would force people to revert back to the primal instinct of "keep moving, be safe, keep warm, survive" and they'd get creative. Everyone makes it sound like everybody fell in the water and were like "ah well shit, we're not Myth Busters, and it's cold here, so I guess it's time to die.". the fact that atleast 80% of their bodies were not submerged would help them survive provided that they care for eachother and probably don't won't to die, and use a little bit of brain power to find some more rubbish to help them out.
"Cold shock is a lot more complicated and dangerous than just gasping for air. The instant that cold water makes contact with your skin, you will experience a number of potentially lethal shock responses." www.coldwatersafety.org/ColdShock.html
This never doesn't piss me off. They go through so, so much. They survive almost drowning a few times, being shot at, numerous physical dangers, Rose jumps back on the ship for him, they survive being pulled under, and then Jack dies. I was rooting for them the whole time & I was so mad.
adam and jamie are using water-resistant clothing while in the movie their clothes soak water and increased their weight which would cause the door to sink.
The buoyancy in the cold sea is far greater, so it should've been easier to float above water, but I still think the stress of the situation makes the scene quite realistic...
@victor, You idiot. The sea is extremely rough. It even tosses small boats. Let alone a door. Have you ever been in the rough sea? Lol. More buoyancy 🤣
He didn't wanna risk it, it was was a tragic love story and was a better ending if Jack died while rose lived on to tell the story. And for those of you that were saying rose lied when she said "I'll never let go", what she meant was that she'll never let go of what jack made her promise to him that she will live
Yep. Trying this in broad daylight on a warm lake and calm water? No way, this is bullshit. Try that on the high sea, with freezing water and when you're completely panicked!
Those two look dingbats look about the same weight. The wood of the board would have been different. Probably slippery from ice. Rose was a small slip of a woman. Maybe jack and Rose couldn't distribute their weight evenly and when Jack tried to climb on he would cause it to tip/flip. As yall said the water wasn't calm like this lake. With freezing limbs they definitely would be graceful with their movements.
Leona DuLac Ackermann you do anything to live when your panicked about death you fuckwad he didn’t even make an attempt to climb on even if the guy is freezing
Not in the same fashion, but 100s of "Jacks" sacrificed their lives that night & drowned with the hope thay their beloved would reach ashore safely. This is heart touching to think of. :)❤
She was also wearing a wool coat, which retains heat, and most other fabrics don't. Unless you could both eliminate the buoyancy issue (which this is shoddy at best; 80% above water isn't as good as Rose being depicted as almost entirely out of the water) AND have the one coat cover both of them, there's a good chance this "both would've survived" is quite the opposite.
Several key variables missing. 1.) Salt water vs fresh. 2.) Water temperature and muscle mobility. 3.) Did these two run around for at least 20 minutes prior to tire themselves out like that of someone fleeing a sinking ship? 4.) Relatively calm lake water vs deep sea ocean 5.) Night vs day (another temperature variable and vision) 6.) Genders 7.) Clothing weight (clothing of the time) 8.) State of mind. Did you just see a bunch of women, children, men drown? Did you outswim a sinking ship that could f dragged you down?
1) Isn't this freshwater? The Titanic sunk in saltwater, and as such the 'actual' board would be more buoyant than this recreation? 2) Fair, but you could argue that this test is based not on the logistics of getting ON the board, but staying on it? The former is a different test in itself. 3) I mean, Jamie is around 60 and Adam around 50... 4) Fair, but if Rose alone managed to stay on the board, two people probably could also (better able to resist a capsize). 5) See 2 6) I'm not sure what you mean by this. Kate Winslet is a lot smaller than Jamie. 7) Well, Jamie and Adam have some pretty heavy clothing on... in the scene referred to Jack's outfit was pretty lightweight, Rose's not so much so but I guess it balances out? 8) Maybe a slight impact. All things considered I feel that the results from the video were conclusive enough to not be swayed by these variables.
You're wrong. Why? Because when you change that many variables it isn't sufficient enough to just say well they could both get on with all of those facts I supplied, while your counters supplied none except for number 1 which isn't saying much. No offense. This is about could they have both lived and given all the facts I presented no, this test does not tell us that. Nor does it tell us could they have both gotten on the board? We also don't know how long it took these two to get on in which case by that time they still might of died struggling. These two also had to struggle to figure it out and time is a factor. This test is inconclusive. You lose.
I'll reply to this in full later (as I am busy) but this wasn't a matter of winning and losing. I was merely discussing the accuracy of this verdict, not challening you in a brawl to the death.
Amaruuno you really lost in all actuality. what you said was completely irrelevant. their state of mind has nothing to do with whether or not they can float on a door
And the actual Titanic sunk in the saltwater ocean, which makes things float even more easily; the life-jacket below the door probably wouldn't even be needed.
Well, next time you physics experts are floating around a ship debris field in freezing ocean water and in between not passing out from extreme cold and fighting off other passengers trying to grab at you, you can McGyver yoru life jacket onto a large piece of furniture and test that theory all rational and calm.
Rose C: Have you ever wondered why people say your life flashed before your eyes before you die? It’s your brain looking for a solution. They would remember this, and apply it.
I love James Cameron's answer to this question. Jack died because he had to. The script said so. Even is the execution is not as good as it could have been, Jack was going to die one way or another. Also, having even 20% of your body in sub-freezing water for 60 minutes with the other 80% exposed to sub-freezing air temperatures would have easily killed both of them.
Akash Pawar Could if taken turns on the door or just have not met and Jack would’ve lived. First part, I was an idiot lol. I was half asleep when posting this, and me being my stupid self, I later defended my comment because I thought I was correct
@@thescpearrapemaster6204 no it wouldnt dry. It would freeze almost instantly making the clothes weigh more and basically be a sheet of ice. Trying swimming when your clothes are basically sheets of glass
Came here after watching a video by Jill Vill, who debunks the Mythbusters' test with the following points: 1. Their test failed to consider the effects -2˚C salt water has on the body and the effects of hyperthermia. The body stiffens up, making it hard to move, much less swim. Uncontrollable swimming exhausts the body as the organs shut down. 2. The drift wood isn't a door, but a 50Ib door frame. Add the separate weights of Jack and Rose, they couldn't stay on together. The difference in weight mattered and the Mythbusters didn't consider that. The space was there for both of them, but the weight was the troublesome part. 3. Rose was an upper-class lady with her life made for her (thus no reason for her to know survival skills) and Jack was a third-class uneducated amateur artist; they didn't have the luxury of the internet or advanced degrees in science to construct the buoyancy device the Mythbusters used to increase their own buoyancy. We're taking about people from 1912 vs. scientists in the 21st Century. 4. If they did try to alternate who was on the driftwood, their bodies still couldn't accommodate fast enough for them both to survive. You can't just keep hopping from freezing cold to less cold. Their body temperatures would have spiked. The only chance for survival was either Rose got on the boat when she had the chance or they could have found another piece of drift wood. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YCTDKbBWHGE.html
I rewatched the clip and Adam even said that it would be a lot harder in freezing water. But nevertheless I agree that there were certain variables that they should have taken into account maybe fill up a large canvas swim pool with accurate water temps, or have them wear only their james bond tuxedos, I seriously doubt that they didn't have medical personnel on standby.
adam and jamie are using water-resistant clothing while in the movie their clothes soak water and increased their weight which would cause the door to sink.
This operates under the idea that, after everything that preceded it, Jack would've still had both his wits about him and the energy to make this idea work. Which is a dangerous assumption to make. In this little experiment, you can try multiple different approaches until you land on the right one. Jack didn't have that luxury. He didn't have time to experiment with one idea, after another, after another. Rose didn't have that benefit either. Maybe it all seems clear afterwards. It was anything but at that moment in time. And it wouldn't be clear to anyone else in that situation IRL either.
@@leonamay8776 Then they both should've died. Even in this experiment with calm waters, having one person on the door still made tons of water come in contact with his body, and Jack and Rose definitely didn't have the whole body gear these guys had on.
@@sarahy.2442 Not necessarily. Being a scientist means you can observe your environment and develop ideas, yes, but it speaks _nothing_ to how you interact with your environment when adrenaline and other hormones are pumping through your system, and your body is restricting you with the cold. If anything, being an athlete who is trained to think quickly at a given situation with reflexes and such would have a better chance. And that's not even touching on how 90% of people panic and behave like sheep during a time of crisis. Which Jack really wasn't doing, he _did_ understand his surroundings and decided it was best if they kept the door stable so Rose would survive at least. If he was panicking, he'd continuously try and get on the door, tip it over, thrash water everywhere, and then on. Your line of thought is a really nice one and it would 100% make the world a better place (especially right now), but it is not realistic (ex. right now).
Life Of Greta He may not have ended up in the same position. Also, it kills the romantic vibe of the movie for Rose to be ok being rescued without Jack.
Life Of Greta things might have played out differently for jack he rose hadn't left the little boat. it looks like it was jacks time to go whichever way you slice it.
He definitely would have died anyways because, when Rose got in the life boat, Jack was handcuffed below the deck. If she hadn’t have getten out of the life boat to find him, he would have still died anyway.
I have been studying the Titanic sinking for about 19 years, have listened to survivor interviews, been to Belfast, Halifax and a ton of other things. First of all i got to see one of the cork vests up close and personal touched it and held it carefully with a curator and that thing is a death trap. The panel, not door could barely fit me and im only 5'5 120 lbs (they had one in Halifax back in 2001- that you could try yourself and no matter how i couldn't). As for the whole Jack sacrifice thing, the water that night was freezing. If your clothes are wet, and your outside in the cold do they dry? No they retain that cold thus causing hypothermia and if not taken care of worse. Your fingers and toes go numb, your motor skills and brain functions are impaired etc. That's what Rose was exhibiting on that panel. There is an interview i watched on youtube explaining all the characters and the people who they were in the real tragedy. Adam and Jamie could have been a little more accurate but that is why Mythbusters was such a successful show because it opened up people to thinking about things and thats what we are doing right. Only the real Titanic tragedy is the one we should focus on and remember that people died that night because of a ship that was built too soon and died too soon. Like the one surviving woman said " Just because it can be built, should we build it?"
I don’t know if you know this but the storyline behind Jack and Rose is fake. Their real names were Jack Thayer and Beatrice Wood and they never ever met each other on the ship. And they both survived the Titanic
Remember the water was like get stabbed all over your body, if they did share there would be water on the surface and they would have that water on their belly for 8 hours
i was playing with levels of reality, like: Homer Simpson doesn't really work at a nuclear power plant, he's just an actor on the show portraying someone who does.
The most realistic thing about this is nobody would get to stay in the door more than 10 seconds because every person nearby would be fighting you for it.
@@DavidRogers97 nah, most was immediately die the moment they jump in the freezing water, the temperrature different shock the body and they dead. If they survived, they would most likely scatter from each other 10 feet at least. You're panic, you're cold, hurt and can't see shit because the sea is dark as hell, you wouldn't know where to go to begin with and just grab whatever the hell nearest to you which is usually 1 arm leght. And they only have 15 mins before they die from hyperthomia.
@@HoaTruong-km9rk then how do 80 year old "polar bears" (people) survive when they jump naked into ice water intentionally? Maybe they could stay on the door but there's definitely a good chance someone would knock them off. You could be right about the darkness though.
@@DavidRogers97 XD they trained to do that and they have to warm up and prepare themself, and they have safety measures too. And they are calm while they do that too. Most people die is just normal person, not a Russian that live in the snow their whole life.
Actually, as water gets colder it expands. The molecules form a lattice-like structure because water is capable of hydrogen bonding with itself. Ice floats because it’s less dense than water.
Since the water was freezing it would be far more difficult to think clearly and to control your limbs. In freezing water there's no way they could have had the dexterity to tie a life jacket around the door and then get on.
"Seawater density increases from 1.0240 g/cm3 at 20°C to 1.0273 g/cm3 at 0°C." In any case, until water actually solidifies, the difference in density is negligible at lower temperatures.
Well Jack even said "Water that cold, like right down there. It hits you like a thousand knives stabbing you all over your body. You can't breath, you can't think. At least about anything but the pain." So in freezing cold water, they wouldn't have been focused on problem solving when it came to 'how can we fit two people on this piece of wood without capsizing or sinking it?' Look I hate that Jack died too but Rose in the end kept her promise to him and returned to Titanic in spirit to reunite with him.
MythBusters : Let's introduce James Cameron as a janitor in the intro. Pretty sure the comment section would explode Everyone else : meh. Rose should've stayed on the fu*king boat
That line gives me ptsd... I really wanted to tube in September one year but was a wimp and didn’t want to get in the water. I was standing on the edge of the boat, contemplating what to do when my sister yelled THIS IS SPARTA and shoved me in. I learned my lesson to never stand near an edge with a sibling.
@@christiandauz3742 Bah ... women say a lot of things in the heat of the moment, but when they come to their senses they choose the rich guy over the poor idiot.
Well I’m pretty sure rose and jack don’t weight as much as two 50 your old men I think if you ask me jack would have been fine if he had held back on the desert
i agree but i would have died for lets say my sister too.but she small so we would have survived + i would have a flair gun on me just because of boats sinking and a whistle,and one more i would be warm enough to shout louder say they can see us but by now we would be grandma 's but yeah its called use ur brain rose
you got that right, this bald headed stupids think that science will help them, you wont even think about that tying shit thing under the door when your freezing damn cold pitch black and your fighting for you lives, dont watch this low iq dude anymore
Abu Tauhid Some can pull massive feats when their lives are on the line. I think they could have done that. Even without the ropes from their life jackets.
Kaytie Buckhalt what even messed up is that the real life the captian and crew of the titanic was given several warnings to turn around because of iceberges and when the ship sunk the didnt provide enough life boats and the ones they did have werent filled up (most had less than half)
@Kaytie Buckhalt Bruce Ismay carried the shame of surviving for the rest of his life, himself and the rest of the Ismay family were social pariahs. However Bruce Ismay is also responsible for the many changes, that needed to be made, to the Board of Trade regulations - which enforced mandatory lifeboat drills and guaranteed everybody a seat in a lifeboat. Without him the regulations would probably still be massively out of sync with the size of ships, which would be catastrophic if a ship like QM2 ever sank.
My one issue with the busting of this myth is this: Not only is the water freezing, but you are wearing heavy olden day clothes and just expended a lot of energy to get off the Titanic in the first place.. You are not going to have the strength or mobility to tie a life-jacket under the door, and still climb up on top of it..
Just like the movie Sully, u have bunch of "experts" telling the pilot he made an error and run perfect computer simulations. But you have to take into account of the crisis situation and what they went through before hand, I think Jack did everything he could in that situation bcus he definitely wanted to live. A lot of deaths is avoidable but u always need to take into account of the surroundings.
Colten Deyoung what they're saying is that when you're panicking in freezing water just after your cruise went under (literally), it wouldn't really cross your mind to tie a life jacket under a plank, even if it's so you can snuggle with bae. In stressful situations, your brain is trying to fix things fast, which doesn't always provide the optimal result.
Stephen Waldron I think what Colten means is if he had done EVERYTHING he could to survive he would have survived because he could have gotten on it and not let rose on it
I disagree. I know that my boyfriend and I would have put in a hell of a lot more effort to both stay alive. I certainly wouldn't just be like "okay yeah if you dont want to share that's fine" like no you aren't dying get your ass on this board we'll figure it out
Okay that worked. Now do that on a freezing cold, pitch black night, with thousands of people screaming and all around you fighting for any floatation device. You haven't had any rest or sleep and it's 3 am in the middle of the Atlantic so you're critical thinking and planning skills are at level 0 and your emotional level are at maximum panic "I think I'm gonna die" mode.
Rose is a woman who was entitled to get on the life raft earlier. Jack asked her to go. She refused and stayed with Jack. If she had left, they would not have needed to share the door.
But them finding that door was a direct direct result of everything the two of them went through. That exact door, floated by at that exact spot and moment in time. Therefore said door would not have been there if let's say Jack jumped into the water earlier or later...
@@sbonelocele3711 that door did a wonderful job of saving them both, tho. I think the main reason for her to not leave him was that she wanted to face the danger with him as far as possible because she did not want to live by knowing she survived by leaving Jack on a drowning ship
they didn't figure the cold water, currents as well as panic. also they would have only had one chance to try and if they failed, they both would have died of hypothermia
I disagree, The idea was to be fully out of water in sub zero temperatures. They would have both died. The test does not take into account the actual clothes they wore or the temperature. Truly given the factors only one would have survived.
I think it would have been very slim if rose would have survived anyway because of her clothes. The dress she had on was made of pretty dense material meaning that it would have retained more water which was freezing. What I'm imagining would happen is the same thing that happens when you put a wet paper towel over a bottled drink and stick it in the freezer. The wet paper towel makes the bottled drink cool down faster than if the bottled drink didn't have it so in my opinion, it was unlikely that either would have survived.
part of the body being under water is better then the whole body being under water.. all they had to do is wait for help to come, if they shared the door both would've survived.
Lmao I honestly think they should’ve done this where the water has ice and freezing cold. Shit hits the mind different when your temp is dropping and going into shock
