A TOP TIER Budget Mouse from VGN Again? - VGN VXE R1 Pro Max Review 

Appreciate the kind words brother 🫡

Appreciate the kind words my man. Hope you enjoy it lots!!

Thanks for clearing it up. I couldn't find any official info on them somehow even searching with the chinese name so that really helps!

Do you know which clicks are on the Se+?

​@@Ash-of1yl no idea but i know they're huano and only have 20m actuations compared to the 80m on the r1 and r1 pro

The clicks just felt pretty stiff compared to my old g305 and i noticed ive been playing worse.. do you think its the mouse clicks?

@@Ash-of1yl you probably just need more time on the mouse

No the glides on the x2 and x2 mini are too big unfortunately

Oh well thats kind of unfortunate. I hope my scroll wheel gets a little lighter soon 😂

The main difference would be the shape like you mentioned. The F1 is a flatter feeling mid hump while the R1 back hump fills out your palm a bit more. The R1 also has flatter sides which gives a more consistent feeling regardless of where you grip. F1 on the other hand has defined curves that can be comfortable especially for claw but can also feel wider if you grip further towards the front or the back of the mouse. This part ultimately comes down to personal preference. Feature wise the switches are both good but the R1 pro has much better skates and a grippier coating. The F1 pro stock skates are pretty muddy so those should be swapped out. I can't speak much on the QC since both of my copies are still perfectly fine. Imo I do prefer the R1 more because of the back hump when I claw and the flatter sides. I also think it's a complete package since you don't have to replace the skates and add grip tapes

@@cebbax thank you so much for your response. It blew my clouds of doubt away :D

Can confirm after uninstalling the software and settings + remapped buttons have remained unchanged

Get the pro version instead of the pro max. Its better and cheaper

It comes down to the sides and hump placement tbh because the sides on the viper are a lot curvier while the r1 is completely flat. Imo if your grip needs palm support or your fingers grip towards the front or the back of the mouse rather than in the middle, then r1 shape should work better

Its honestly there to ensure you have the most stable wireless connection possible but its not necessary if your PC is close to you. However if you get any mice that lets you use 2/4/8k then you'll get a dongle that can't plug directly without a cable anyways

​@@cebbaxwell i use a laptop anyway. so i guess u can say my pc is always close to the mouse

i dont think there is a better mouse for this price + in what website u got it for 42?

The r1 pro with 4k is a really good deal for that price tbh

The r1 pro max has double the battery capacity but has stiffer switches and then everything else is the same. Imo the r1 pro is the better deal

This heavily depends on your preferred shape. Generally speaking r1 shape is good for fingertip and claw while z2 is good for claw and palm. The z2 is taller and has a mid hump so it'll fill up your palm more whereas r1 will only give partial contact especially near the base of your palm. Either mouse is really good but if you do decide to get the r1, choose the pro version and not the pro max for the better switches and lighter weight. It's cheaper too

​@@cebbax i already use R1 pro max is kinda boring i use claw grip tho but is not my type at all i think i like ergo more so i'll get a zaopin z2 thank you.

I've had no issues with the sensor so far, hopefully it stays that way

they give you a 2 metre long cable

@@cebbax thanks vro

Would the pulsefire haste mini be a consideration for you? If not then the r1 pro is better

Imo I don't think its necessary to have 4k. Its a good experience but it has minimal effect to your gameplay. It also depends on your game of choice. You can't run anything above 1k on COD or your mouse would start stuttering and slowing down. You should treat it as an extra on the side

I personally like the xraypad jades for speed or the vortex ones from ghostglides are pretty good too for control-balance. If you don't like dots, corepads have the r1 series available

@@cebbax alr thanks i think ghostglides would do well, because jade feels too fast for me

Buy 4k dongle

I don't even know what is real anymore lol. I looked it up and some chinese websites claim its pink shell pink dots, a korean website says its kailh black gold mamba and now aliexpress has kailh white sword. I'm opening mine up tomorrow to make sure

@@cebbax let us know what switches they are once u open it up!

Black Gold Mamba is what F1 Pro Max have, Pink Shell Pink Dot thou no idea lol. R1 PM definitely has 凯华白刃 which is White Sword/Blade, at least on my orange unit 😂

@@gementiza5031 Okay so the r1 pro max at least my copy uses the kailh white swords so that matches up with what op said. However there was a reddit thread showing the pink shell pink dots being used in the f1 moba mices so the r1 pros will also be using these switches. I think the biggest bait was on multiple websites they only said huano pink dots so a lot of people thought of the blue shell pink dots instantly

It can develop down the line but of all the mice I've used for long periods of time, only the original g pro wireless had that issue

Yea someone helped me out haha. I appreciate you though, thanks for pointing it out!

Wait you just saved me. Didn't know you had to back out all the way to see the language option

I would go for the pro. Better deal imo

@@cebbax yeah that's what I ordered, the switches on the max are to avoid apparently

@@francisplourde2277 They're not horrible by themselves but it is significantly less appealing when you can get the r1 pro with better switches, lower weight for a lower price. Hope you enjoy your mouse!

@@cebbax so the pro max is actually worse than the pro version ?

@@mohammadbaqer8305 Yea mainly due to the switches but its the best option in terms of value as well!

They're very similar. I like the width on the r1 more but the op1 hump feels better for sure so I would go for the op1 shape. The r1 would fit better if you have larger hands and relax claw imo

@@cebbax Thanks, r1 seem like a better deals for me

This

100% this

haha i bought this for only 29 usd. hard to beat

@@Unbeknownstx can i have the link where you got for that price please?

@@Karnaa i ordered directly from china taobao

Do you mean the wired viper 8k from a couple of years ago? If so, I'd get the r1 pro 100%

Yea mb, realized after someone mentioned it and I opened the mouse up. Its still really stiff and makes the r1 pro much more of a better buy instead