Me and my auntie and cousins approached this mast in the 1970's - a siren / alarm went off and a bloke came out to meet us saying we shouldn't be there. He gave us a lift back to Horwich in his van. Great video - it's a place that has always fascinated me ever since.
Really cool video that Lewis. I remember years ago asking a guy that was installing now well defunct OnDigital equipment back at my parents house in Heald Green, where the signal came from. Of course he said Winter Hill. I didn't have a clue where that was at the time. Loving your videos and have become inspired to pick up my first Baofeng (GT-3TP).
Great video Lewis, cant believe I've not seen it before. Always been interested in radio communications and Winter hill is brilliant. I took my daughter when she was young in the eighties ,and took a picture of her standing next too the mast. (Never got challenged ). I know its only four years ago, but if you could manage it ,an up-to-date Video would be great. To old to walk up there now.
Nice video again sir. I was up here again on Monday morning, I was watching two guys jet washing the first platform and inside the access door. Just looking at the mast through the window here, I always know if I cant see her when I set off on a walk its going to be a fun one Lol.
Very interesting video, Lewis, I enjoyed this one. Oh and... have to say... totally LOVE the music. My other hobby is music - I own a couple of synths, and I especially love creating ambient and chillout stuff. This music was right up my street! MW6WHL
Great Video as always! I adore winter hill, as a kid from wigan i loved seeing the mast lit up in the dark and cycling up there for picnics in the 70's, i live in the south of the uk now and still adore seeing it when i return! I have also have spent a lot of time up there DXing on 11 mtr cb from the early 80's into the 90's. im curious what an accident at Belmont has to do with the lift inside the mast not working?
Great stuff Dave! As for the Belmont incident, lift cable snapped and jammed the lift. I suppose too much of a headache to maintain and sort out when things go wrong. They'd probably rather train people to climb and pay them to do it. Cheers :)
It would have been far better had the captions been on screen for longer, the font been better and in some colour other than white, because they didn`t stand out at all. Otherwise it was a brilliant piece of work. Thank you.
Great video, and even with the low cloud/poor weather, the drone shots look amazing... many thanks. Just on the subject of TV and other transmitter sites like Winter Hill.... I was wondering what you and maybe other subscribers thought about how, in the near future, such sites will be used? Just to explain.... given the ever increasing use of streaming services, via the internet, I wonder how long you think it might be before 'old TV' as we've known it... i.e being transmitted from sites like Winter Hill, will continue to exist? My guess is that the days of needing a TV antenna/Satellite dish for receiving our 'standard' TV service are numbered and will move over to the internet. Winter Hill and other such transmitter sites I guess could be re purposed, to maybe transmit broadband services? Sky have recently announced their intention to offer their Sky TV, without the need for a satellite dish. Obviously, their whole system now can be carried via broadband and other TV services, that are at the moment using standard TV transmitters, will, I think also move to have their platforms delivered via the internet? Would be interested in your views? Cheers, and again, thanks for the video. 73
Cheers mate yeah the weather was awful wasn't it! That's a great question on the future of these sites, I guess they'll have a place where it's not possible to lay cables to everywhere in the UK, definitely an interesting one. I guess they'll be sort after by cell companies etc, 4g, LTE etc, who knows. It's a great question, I'll pin it, maybe do a discussion video on the subject? 73 for now mate.
That single mast tower is ridiculous! 😉 Should you be worried about the broken microwave antennas? Excellent video, even with the fog. Must be nice to be able to do this, try to do that here in the US you'd be run in. I've often wondered about sites like this with a multitude of defunct transmitters, and whether it would be worth the effort to to offer to take control of one of them, and what kind of rent they'd ask. We have a lot of places like this in the mountains, and I could use a pre-installed repeater site 😉 Thanks for the vid!
Another great video and it looks pretty bleak when the mist comes down.Are any of the dites manned?It all looks pretty quiet but i was wondering if you ever got challenged while filming especially with the Drone?
Hey Pete, Yeah a lot of activity up there. The main transmitter is always manned, the old BT one is sometimes manned, the others are visited as an when. Never got challenged on the drone, I doubt anyone saw it with the weather. I've always had a nod from security everytime I've been up
WOW! Great video, what a shame it was foggy on your filming day, otherwise I'm sure the views would have been brilliant. Eeery kind of video in a way, my god there is just Sooo much history here! Top work on this You Tube my friend, very well done.
Great Video Lewis...... How did you get up there? Did you drive or walk as we tried but didn't want to go up the lane between the houses further down, looked too official 😎... Didn't the phantom get affected by the signals... I'd try my mavic there poss Can't believe someone put a 'thumbs down' on this vid.... tut tut!
Hi mate! great to hear from you. The bit you didn't fancy, I just drove through. I always do it. Never been approached. The only interaction I've ever had is a nod from a security guard haha. Phantom was perfect, my mate had his mavic, even better. No interference whatsoever which is surprising. Let me know next time you go up! I always have a thumbs down, someone a bit bitter I expect lol. Who cares lol. Cheers
I've never seen a tower like that before, the only thing I can think when I see that is how inconvenient it would be to work on. Inside climbs on guy towers are usually tight as is, so I can't imagine how little room there is in this one. I don't think I'd feel quite comfortable, then again I'm usually a little shaky when I climb over 1000 feet. Interesting to see how the technology changes between the US and UK.
While you where up there, did you hear any war style sirens at all? I was up there today and heard them, it was extremely eerie. Especially with the foggy weather.
SORRY! Point taken! No offence intended, my friend! GREAT Video by the way! The Holme Moss mast on the side of Black Hill, is quite high above sea level too. The mast is 709ft at an altitude of about 1500 or 1600ft. The top of that mast is the highest point in the Peak District, considerably higher than Kinder Scout at 2,088ft. With Best Wishes! Cheers - Mike.
Just wondering if anyone can enlighten me as to how the signals get to Winter Hill for transmission? I presume it's by fibre optic link now but how were they sent in the 1960's thru to today especially as some would have to come from London with others from Manchester possibly? Hope someone knows the answer!!!
They were sent mainly by point to point microwave links. BT had a series of concrete reinforced towers around the country (heaton park is the nearest). These were covered in huge dishes.
Ringway Manchester Didn't realise microwave links had been around for so long. I recall being told by a retired BT engineer that they had massive copper trunk lines that carried a lot of it around the country. Not sure if that was only for radio though.
I'm surprised that there isn't more evidence of the electricity supply infrastructure up there. I went up there many years ago, back in the 70s, but didn't see any substations or pylons. I thought that odd, considering the amount of power needed. More so, I imagine, with all that digital stuff! Great video, but bloody awful subtitles. A voice over would have worked better.
I'm lead to believe there's a large indoor substation and generator room at the main transmitter site fed by underground cables. Weather conditions up there don't favour pylons or overhead lines.
Really informative and atmospheric video, you have really captured the cold isolation of that place, I am also fascinated by transmitter sites as well although this day and age you have to be careful about loitering with drones and radio gear, like last week I am sure that they thought I was a hunt saboteur, if the police think you are up to no good though they will monitor you, years ago my mate was on their hit list as he went to just 1 anti vivisection demo, a month later a lab burned down in Wales and the police were at his house because they had tracked his mobile in Wales even though he was there mountain biking? hes sadly dead now. Nice mix of stuff on the channel, I have done lots of reviews as of late and have a few other interesting vids in the pipe, who did the music on this one? was it Andy Kirby? very cool tunes.
Wow scary stuff! Got loads more sites to loiter at this weekend too haha! The good thing is there's not many people around the sites I go as they're in the styx haha. Cheers for the comment! Can't wait to see your new videos. The music was just youtube free music.
Just wondering why you have an American flag on your pack? Thought you where British. Don't get me wrong, I Love the US, I'm American. But thought you might have a story about why the American flag. And great video.
Most of the antennas, especially the microwave ones, are directional pushing it outwards not downwards - I was told a story (back in analogue TV days) that there was so little signal at the bottom of Emley Moor TX site that the Control Room needed a 24 element yagi to carry out off-air monitoring of the transmitters.
@@barrieshepherd7694 Perhaps that may be true of microwave, however it is common with cellular systems to adjust an antenna pattern to tune the beam with a downtilt increasing received signal power where desired and/or reducing inter-cell interference to improve network performance. Also RF exposure is dependent on antenna height above the ground .However what you said about the TV application is true and also true about some FM stations.
@@gatesmw50 I agree - most cellular antennas have down tilt however the regulations dictate a safe field at the normal distance the public would be from an antenna and I suspect the closest you would get at Winter Hill is greater than 20 metres which (because of the RMS Law) would be 'safe'. Many of the antenna visible on the masts are VHF and UHF PMR types and similarly their power levels would be at a safe level (at ground) and they are unlikely to be down tilted towards the local ground. So there will be a lot of RF energy around the masts but all will be at safe exposure levels for any part of the site where the public have access and most of it is 'up in the air' 🤣 The other consideration is that people see high EIRP powers and get concerned forgetting that these are 'fake' in as much as they represent the power in defined directions with similarly reduced power in other directions. There is bugger all coming off the back / sides of some cellular antennas 😂
Amazing how they can have that many transmissions going on in one area and they do not interfere with each other. Not sure if this is of interest to you, I picked up ISS on my scanner last week ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WrtueQNI3d8.html Still need to sort out showing you them pics of my Chihuahuas. How is your puppy coming along?
