A Warhammer 40K army in Warhammer Fantasy 

Im gonna go out on a limb here and say that Legend thinks Gorduz Backstabber shouldn't be in this army.

Gorduz backstabber has the unique item that increases the fireglaives ranges in the army. Why he put it on Gorduz of all people, I do not know.

"Saving your Doomstack" video

Pretty much how it is having Imperial Guard facing off against Orks here. Lore accurate and entertaining to watch.

Main problem I had with my Fireglaive army was when I fought factions that outranged it they just get shot to pieces but against vampires and greenskins they do extremely good work

It was always funny to me, that when he commands the units he actually talks to them like those are some IRL pokemons or something

9:35 AI casually using spinning loons to kill 4 of its own units while fighting hero

Well Fireglaives both sound and look like 40k lasguns so it's probably not that far off. Pew pew!

Hells yeah this was the first doomstack I tried for the only reason that I really like the fireglaive animations. This army has some issues though like gordaz being in it, having 2 other caster only 1 is necessary or none at all because the army is led by Drazoath, the castilans are ok for tanking and ammo replen etc. Is it the best Chorf doomstack? Hell no but is it the prettiest? I think so.

Gorduz can seem odd to put in however he can summon goblins in a useable manner akin to Clanrats for drawing in big groups for artillery and or missile infantry he's also relatively small himself and can be used to hold a spot long enough to possibly get a cast or two off also so he's actually not the worst decision for this army.

I think using draz hoath to just fly over and melee the arty to death is more than fair as any lord option other than astrogoth could do that. I like that you use some kf the faction abilities, as they are regularly major parts of battles and therefore the faction as a whole

I’ve been seeing the AI shoot at my Single Entities a lot more recently on Very Hard battle difficulty also. Very weird.

The new empire total war looks sick

I am a little surprised that he didn't have the item that drops your melee attack by -100% but makes you immune to damage on the Daemonsmiths. Would help them just stand and tank a little longer, since that is really all they are there for and they can still cast spells while immune.

Legend channels his inner Chaos Dwarf contempt as he notices a hobgoblin tagging along Jokes aside, Gorduz is a fast moving single entity that is slippery with the dice ward save, which is where a Tau'Ruk would be better. But Gorduz has the goblin spawn, which can tarpit frontliners or distract ranged/artillery when you remember this doomstack has no other fast moving infantry

"I don't really consider it cheating" -The Cheeselord

He is actually the best choice for a fireglaive doomstack. If they ever have to go into melee they have anti infantry while already being anti large by default. He doesn’t boost their ranged attacks by much but if they ever have to go into melee they are best equipped with him. Not saying that they’re better than a K’dai doomstack, but he does buff them significantly more than other lords

I dont think its better than the Chaos Dwarf Weapons Team Doomstack.

I understand why you're not using it but it kills me inside to see chorfs with almost 200 magic and not obliterating every unit with fire and hashuut spells 😂 That hellstorm of non-stop fireglaive volleys never gets old tho. They absolutely killed it with the visuals and overall aesthetic of all chorf missile units. Idk what it is but damn it's so satisfying everytime even the hobgobs

Never thought I would get to hear "pew pew's" in a Fantasy game :)

Glad I wasn’t the only one who thought some of the Chorf units look like little space marines

>Armor of Contempt 9th edition 40k called, they want their special rule back.

I think you should've used a checkerboard and widen the formation so that they wouldn't cover up eachother's line of fire. And maybe treat it less as a skaven weapons army and allow the enemy to get into melee sometimes while keeping your heroes healthier. These guys are really good in close combat, no? I'd also consider having the daemonsmiths on bale tauruses and have them counter artillery as a secondary role.

i feel like if your only use for the gunner heero is to be on the front line, then you should choose the shotgun optoin, so they are much tankier, the choice to use the longer range variant seems weird.

As fun as this looks, I still prefer the 'weapons team' army over this one, due to the unit limitations. I rather have a few more armies running around than one that's not even necessarily better (it's certainly less flexible then the weapons team).

Y'know, while I can definitely understand the justification of using Gorduz in this army for his ability to summon Hobgoblins for crowd control, in my personal experience with Chorf weapons teams, this role can be filled perfectly fine by Castellans with smoke bombs and Hashut casters with Ash Storm, in combination with the Hell Forge upgrade "suppressed" on the fireglaives. I'd personally drop Gorduz and the Fire caster for two more castellans because while that weakness to fire Kindleflame passive can definitely massively boost damage, we can see in this particular army that the missile damage has already been boosted to unholy degrees, and some more effective crowd control will yield greater net value. It's not always about stacking on the greatest amount of multipliers; sometimes it's about making the greatest use of those multipliers.

damn you really fucked up that formation. The 2nd line was barely shooting lmao

I'm a little confused. Should I or shouldn't I include Drazhoath and Gorduz in a fireglaive doomstack? He really never really made it clear what he thought on that.

It is the 26th century. For centuries, the Sorceror Prophets have stood upon the dark Tower of Zharr-Naggrund. They are the Masters of the Dawi-Zharr by the will of Hashut, and masters of a million slaves taken by the might of their inexhaustible armies. They are the dark lords who will usher in a new Dark Age of Industry, all for their infernal lord, for whom a thousands of souls will be sacrificed so the fires of industry never die. These lords of fire and darkness maintain constant vigilance. Mighty caravans cross the dark lands, following routes to distant empires, their passage guided by loyal servants of Hashut. Vast armies give battle with His name on their lips. Greatest amongst their warriors are the Infernal Ironsworn, efficient and deadly warriors tasked with the duty of safeguarding their commanders and the sorceror-prophets on the fields of battle. The forces beneath them are legion: the ranks of Dawi-Zharr Warriors, War Machines, Beasts of the Darklands, Demon-Forged Kadai, and countless slaves and laborers, thrown into the slaughter of battle to expand their industrial empire. Their multiudes, supported by elite warriors, engines of destruction, and fiery magics will subjugate the lesser races. Human, Elf, Greenskin, Ogre, Demon, and their Dawi cousins. All will serve. To be alive in such times is to ever be on the verge of death, enslavement, or worse. This is the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of its rise. Forget the old ways of the Dawi, for the future lies in industry, technology, and sorcery. Forget the ideas of salvation and freedom, for in this grim dark world there is only war. There is no peace in these lands, only an eternity of carnage, slaughter, and labor, amid the burning fires of industry, and the ever watchful eye of the infernal god Hashut.

I would have replaced Gorduz with a Dreadquake mortar (with locomotive) to foce the enemy to come to the army and do counter battery stuff.

Gorduz is there because he wanted to be there.

Oh the ultra OP latest DLC race. So fun ultra stomping everything - or is it?

Chorf artillery is some of the best in the game, not bringing any is just foolish. Even a couple magma cannons would allow you to take out enemy archers, who can be a problem if the outrange the fireglaives. Most people aren't going to have the item this army has boosting their range from 145 to 160.

Are we just not going to talk about how he got like 500 magic?

It's like a T'au army from Dawn of War Dark Crusade before the nerfs. Plasma rifle go brr.

I think get rid of gorduz and give the item to somebody else. Maybe you also don’t need as many other heroes. And just 3 dreaquake mortars to deal with anything that has more range than the fireglaives. The dreakquakes also destroy artillery pieces because they get so much range with the item and the red skill line. They also get a skill from the tech trees that further boosts the fireglaives damage. The wizards get that skill as well, but since you want to also use them to stop the enemy in melee they will not be in range to supply that buff most of the time.

Should've used a checkers board formation here

You're right, this might as well have been Total War: 40k battle. Something like Tempestus Storm Troopers vs Orcs. Man, I really hope we get a 40k Total War game in the future.

gorduz is there most likely for the summons and more importantly, casualty replenishment as he is the only hero chorfs have that give it

Pretty sure Gorduz has an item that he can get which boosts Fireglaives. I can't remember it's name off the top of my head, but I'm almost 100% certain it's unique to him. The reason I think Drazhoath is in this army is two fold: Ash Storm (You can stack the Weakness to Fire with another wizard) His passive to give them reduced upkeep and Bonus vs Infantry (because they're not absolutely garbage in melee, and +15 Bonus is not insignificant). A minor reason would be, that his Arcane personal item gives +5% Ward Save to the entire army, and he mildly boosts some stats with his unique items too. I'm pretty sure you could get the same result by putting two Hashut Wizards, but still, it's a reason to add him I guess.

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Needs to trade Gorduz for a bull centaur hero. Guardian alone will help all the heroes tank a lot more. Also, even though spam can look neat, a bit of artillery wouldn't hurt either. 2 mortars, maybe, or one and a rocket if the shots get buffed a bit.

24:41 The upkeep cost is reducing only on the coin symbol of the army

For the Forge buffs, i'd maybe change extra ammo for reload reduction, of course it keeps the extra powder working longer, but maybe buffing their reload even further might be better.

Really noob question, but what should my formations be with melee infantry and blunderbusses/fireglaives? I assumed they worked like kislev guns did at launch (iirc) and friendly fired your forces because they don’t arc shots.

I always think in some of these videos "He has Gorduz because Gorduz makes him happy" lol

They could be using Gorduz for the speed, he is pretty fast, and the + casualty replenishment.

11:09 Orc lord gets deleted.

I guess Gorduz is for the hobgoblin summon to hold up enemies like vermintide

How in the hell do you get 400 winds of magic reserve?

What mod are you using to allow the dwarf guns to shoot through the first line of dwarf guns? My guys wont shoot if there is a pebble in the way.

I feel like you need 1 piece of arty in this army because it forces the AI to just charge you without waiting for reinforcements

Can someone explain what the difference is between Warhammer and Warhammer 40k?

Maybe it's just me but i have the feeling that with the release of the chaos dwarfs and especialy the design of the fireglaive's, a Warhammer40k game can actually work just fine as a Total War game

Flames of asgore is the whole point of taking that caster into battle. It's a support spell that that doomstack happens to have access to that would 100% get spammed no matter what

I Actually think Doomstacks should ONLY be Counted if they are Purely Generic Recruitable Units. A Doomstack has to be Recreatable. Otherwise its not a True Doomstack of that Generic Unit. If a Doomstack only Works thanks to a Legendary Lord then that Legendary Lord is the Doomstack. Which is not Difficult to do. Many Legendary Lords are Strong enough to Form Doomstacks with a Variety of Units. And many of these Units cannot form a Doomstack of their Own without having that Legendary Lord or Hero along. True Doomstacks. Like Stegadons or Steamtanks or Dragons etc etc. Work by themselves and can be Recreated without Limit because they Work with any Sufficiently Trained Generic Lord and Hero Combination. .

i usual get also very good resaults with blunderbass, what do you think is better, blunderbass, fireglave or a mix of both?

How would you counter this as (insert order faction here)

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Gorduz is probably there to cheese seige battles by capping the town square

is there a reason for putting those units shooting their guns in two rows instead of one row? looks like the ones at the back can barely even shoot due to their pals in the front row obstructing their view.

It seems like you've been getting a lot of "saving your disaster doomstack battle" videos lately.

I use a mod that gives fireglaives dig in (the longer set up one). I usually do not like to use mods like this, but it just feels right to me. Its cool to me thematically.

LOTW 2 years ago, barely groups or uses the shift key: micro and cheesetopia LOTW in 2023: Hey kids wanna see how to total war!? 😂

Rad use of mechanics, but holy hell this game is terrible.

to be fair, having drazhoath the ashen with this stack, giving the bonus vs infantry, makes them better in melee, which would help them specifically in the battles where they might otherwise struggle, i.e. forested and hilly terrain. it doesn't help them stomp harder in open terrain, but they're already super strong in open terrain, the danger for this army is if they get ambushed or caught in shit terrain, and the bonus vs infantry does help them then.

Man I would give ALL the money for a 40k Total War. Preferably with procedurally generated worlds, slowly conquering the galaxy until you run into a bigger nasty than you.

I can't understand the logic of only using a portion of the army to rate the doomstack. Are you just rating that unit or the army? If you are going to do that, then why not just take the units out of the army? I can understand people not wanting to watch you fly around wasting ammo and manipulating the ai to get thousands of kills with one unit. But you go from one extreme to the other. Why not use the whole army? The other units aren't there because they look pretty. They are there because they pull some of the weight for the army. Why not just have a Lord and 19 fire glaive units, but the lord has to hide and can't lead his troops or help them. Pretty silly, bro.

waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait how did he get 390 WOM ????

and this is why a 40k total war would totally work

Good god the lag on campaign, makes me feel like my PC's about to crash the "game" despite me watching a youtube video of it.

Not gonna lie - I was baited into clicking on this video when I saw "Warhammer 40k". Still great content regardless.

Honestly I would have personally used blunderbusses if you were going for pure missile damage. They hit like absolute freight trains

I wish Warhammer had an option to make generals normal. I can't play it because heroes and dragons are all that matters and your army just dies to a supergiant with nothing you can do even with halberdiers.

I really dislike this doomstack, it could have been way more effective if you ditched half the infernal guard and replaced them with castellans and artillery.

Fireglaives are great but I always have a dreadquake or hellcannon to weaken the enemy before my fireglaives start shooting.

Drazoath does buff fireglaives because fireglaives count as infernal guard

If every army for this faction gets those abilities I dont see why they cant be considered for the doomstack. As no matter what he doom stacked here he would have them.

lol its not going to do too much damage, im just gonna pop this down here to save the hero - 50% damage on 5 units and completely wipes a 6th.

"im not gonna use that." - LegendofTotalWar on everything.

sometimes i like to just use cheats and start a campaign as grand cathay then get 10 doomstacks of terracotta sentinels and do the rumbling on the world

Why do people want to only play doomstacks, it's such a boring cheesy way to play

ai should have a rally function to reform ranks

Abilities? Who needs those. Abilities and magic are for the weak!

me thinking that im not that bad in micro while playing and then watching any of Legends videos

more ammo not really needed imo... units where at half ammo after 4 fullstacks

"Why is Gorduz in this army?" Uhhh... Gorduz cool

Any doomstack is a wizard doomstack when you going to use it in an actual game.

Gorduz seething rn

You used like 7 of the 14 units in this doomstack lmao

Mook: We're outnumbered four to one! What should we do?!? Legend: let's give them a handicap

it is not a doomstack if you need to micro so much. doomstacks should be easy to use also for a dummies and noobs.

Warhammer still doesn't have actual guns

guard mode makes them shoot back? didnt know that! nice

Gorduz is in there for replenishment I'd bet.

didnt you said you'll never play total war napoleon ever again?

Do guns not need line of sight anymore? TBH, I've never played any other total war besides Shogun 2, and its DLC, and Medieval 2

choosing this "disaster" is so easy, should have chose one you could actually lose lol

Saw the title and thought legend is playing with mods now.

When you think about a 40k total war is a good idea