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A wave traveling between two parabolic antennas 

Nils Berglund
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This simulation was suggested by several viewers, following the simpler version • How a parabolic antenn... . It shows the evolution of a circular wave, emitted from the focus of a parabolic antenna. The part of the wave reflected on the antenna is transformed into a planar wave, which travels to the facing parabola with almost no loss of energy. The second parabola transforms the wave back into part of a circular wave, which is then concentrated in its focal point. In this way, signals can be transmitted over much longer distances than shown in this simulation, with little loss of power. Note that non-planar waves are also concentrated near a point, which is however different from the parabolas' focal point.
The colors indicate the energy of the wave: blue means low energy, red means high energy. The boundary conditions in the simulation are absorbing, but do not work perfectly, which is why you see some reflections from the sides of the outer rectangle.
Edit: For a new version with a different color scheme, see • Speak to me: Waves tra...
Music: "The Rising" by Aakash Gandhi‪@discobiscuit1320‬
See also images.math.cn... for more explanations (in French) on a few previous simulations of wave equations.
The simulation solves the wave equation by discretization. The algorithm is adapted from the paper hplgit.github....
C code: github.com/nil...
www.idpoisson....
Many thanks to my colleague Marco Mancini for helping me to accelerate my code!

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@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid
@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid 2 года назад
I am reminded of one of my biggest aha moments as a child: at a big budget science fair they set up two (now extinct) 8 foot diameter satellite dishes facing each other across an enormous gymnasium, end to end. The receiver had been stripped and in its place was a simple piece of PVC pipe. Now the gymnasium was full of other exhibits, and hundreds of people were wandering around, playing with noisy gadgets, and laughing and talking. It was a cacophony of sound, like you can imagine. One person could stand at a dish at each end and YELL across the room, and the other person simply wouldn't hear it. I doubt even a bullhorn could cut through the din at that distance. HOWEVER! One person puts their ear to a tube, and the other person talks into the other tube, and with a slight delay you can have a clean conversation - and none of the "interference" from the noisy room mattered. Because the dishes were perfectly aligned (like in this video) only the 2 people at the foci were of significance.
@aratof18
@aratof18 Год назад
that's so cool
@faland0069
@faland0069 Год назад
Thats awesome
@phutureproof
@phutureproof 7 месяцев назад
They have something like this at Jodrell Bank a large astrophysics centre in the UK, I went there on a school trip many many years back and it's pretty much the same setup, except this is outside and the distance between the two dishes is maybe 200 meters, so cool!
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 7 месяцев назад
The Oval Office of the White House actually is elliptical, and sounds made at one focus are clearly audible at the other focus. This is clearly intentional, although I'm not entirely sure what purpose it was intended to serve other than being impressive in the days before amplification.
@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid
@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid 7 месяцев назад
@@mal2ksc You think that would be intentional? Seems a bit of a security risk. *Whispers quietly to veep. Guy on other end: "I can hear you..."
@RaymondThePainter
@RaymondThePainter 3 года назад
I’m now gonna call parenthesis “parabolic antennas”
@Rojomanzana438
@Rojomanzana438 3 года назад
I don't know why but your comment made me laugh really hard brah
@onepunchman1953
@onepunchman1953 3 года назад
I'm now going to call curved brackets as "parenthesis".
@TheDantheman12121
@TheDantheman12121 3 года назад
@@onepunchman1953 lmao
@gaypreator8547
@gaypreator8547 3 года назад
Hark, what men are these, that wear their legs in parentheses. 🙂
@Rh0mbus
@Rh0mbus 3 года назад
Antennae are for animals, antennas are for communication
@sparking023
@sparking023 7 месяцев назад
It's nice that the simulation also demonstrates signal loss as part of the wave doesn't bounce off the antenna, and how external noise influences the signal quality
@MatteoGalet
@MatteoGalet 7 месяцев назад
Only if the feeder is omnidirectional :) If the feeder is directional and pointed towards the parabolic reflector, all the energy goes reflected to destination. That's why in some broadcast dishes, you find a small reflector in front of the feeder antenna, so to reflect all the signal to the main dish
@저스트라구
@저스트라구 7 месяцев назад
I thought the same one 👍
@darkracer1252
@darkracer1252 5 месяцев назад
@@MatteoGalet except that has nothing to do with what the op was commenting about. this was not a demonstration of the situation you described. and so it did infact demonstrate the signal loss.
@MatteoGalet
@MatteoGalet 5 месяцев назад
@@darkracer1252 what he wrote is applicable both in case of the emitted signal (which I commented on), and the received signal. But in the latter, there is HUGE percentage of signal not bouncing off the antenna reflector... Much more than shown in the video
@OneBiasedOpinion
@OneBiasedOpinion 12 дней назад
That was the part that interested me the most. I can easily visualize the focusing effect, but seeing how clutter repeatedly interrupted, distorted, and weakened the core signal was fascinating!
@redcrafterlppa303
@redcrafterlppa303 7 месяцев назад
It shows really nicely how parabolic antennas keep a signal crisp between the antennas focal points.
@HuckleberryHim
@HuckleberryHim 7 месяцев назад
It looks like a little ray gun shooting a beam directly at the foci
@realcalebrome
@realcalebrome 7 месяцев назад
truly one of the best uses of three minutes ever
@NikKappa
@NikKappa 3 года назад
Wave around a circle to show that the brightest point in a Shadow Is the centre
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 3 года назад
Thanks, I'll have to see if I can find parameter values allowing to demonstrate that...
@HISEROD
@HISEROD 3 года назад
@@NilsBerglund That'd be awesome
@NikKappa
@NikKappa 3 года назад
@@NilsBerglund It would be awesome
@toriknorth3324
@toriknorth3324 3 года назад
In 2D a circle analogue would just be a line segment blocking the wave. I'm not sure, but I think the center spot would be brighter in 3D than 2D because in 3D the wave would have the entire circumference of the circle to diffract around compared to just the two ends of the line segment in 2D.
@msaciek1234
@msaciek1234 3 года назад
You notice that if you have more than 2iq
@andrebartels1690
@andrebartels1690 3 года назад
I don't have the education to see the benefits of this simulation, but it is beautiful.
@ToastyMozart
@ToastyMozart 3 года назад
See how the primary "flat" wave from the antenna on the left winds up hitting the little dot on the right all at once after it's reflected? That dot's the receiver, meaning it got a vastly more powerful signal than if the transmitter (left dot) had sent the wave in free space without the reflectors. That way transmissions can be sent and received from much greater distances.
@memebandit
@memebandit 3 года назад
Bro easily I can beat you in a foot race to 20 yards.
@louislouis7258
@louislouis7258 3 года назад
@André Bartels You are clearly educated enough to recognize the limits of your knowledge. With a mind open enough to assimilate new information. Congratulations 🎊 👏
@fregtz735
@fregtz735 3 года назад
@@ToastyMozart this is also how brittain made theyre first Way of detecting german bombers
@nikolab.4264
@nikolab.4264 3 года назад
@@fregtz735 those big ass antenas that would pick up the sound of i coming bombers?? Is that what you meant
@Unmannedair
@Unmannedair 3 года назад
That's really cool. The refraction pattern is like watching a macro scale double slit experiment.
@Synthwave89
@Synthwave89 3 года назад
Kind of like power being generated by the relative motion of conductors and fluxes, produced by the modial interaction of magneto-reluctance and capacitive diractance.
@silas0403
@silas0403 3 года назад
@@Synthwave89 Exactly! Gotta be careful though to prevent side-fumbling of the unsynchronised gramm-meter..
@zombieregime
@zombieregime 3 года назад
@@silas0403 moreover whenever fluorescence score motion is required it may also be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocation Dingle arm to reduce sinusoidal deplanaration. Which, goes without saying, is vital in the operation of Milford trunnions.
@archise3191
@archise3191 3 года назад
@@zombieregime you forgot about the malleable logarithmic casing Because without it the two main spurving bearings wouldn't be in a direct line with the panametric fan.
@VXVirtuoso
@VXVirtuoso 3 года назад
Ya what he said in ten years when I understand it
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 7 месяцев назад
Seeing how messy that is gives me a new appreciation for what radio engineers have to deal with.
@Echo_the_half_glitch
@Echo_the_half_glitch 28 дней назад
Messy but also controlled and predictable
@prodigalsonresurrection
@prodigalsonresurrection 3 года назад
I remember making my first parabolic antenna out of cardstock, glue, and aluminum foil. This was back when wifi routers had external antennas, it would really beef up the signal but it's highly directional.
@chadblechinger5746
@chadblechinger5746 2 года назад
Aw the old pringle can days.
@TheMattg345
@TheMattg345 3 года назад
You should do one showing waves going through different kinds of filter gates that effect different wavelengths to show the mechanics of hi-pass, lo-pass, noise cancelling, stuff like that.
@atirutwattanamongkol8806
@atirutwattanamongkol8806 3 года назад
you know those are different waves, right? Those filters deal with waves as a signal, not as physical waves.
@MrMegaMetroid
@MrMegaMetroid 3 года назад
@@atirutwattanamongkol8806 signal waves are physical waves.
@atirutwattanamongkol8806
@atirutwattanamongkol8806 3 года назад
@@MrMegaMetroid No? Physical waves travel through the air in 3d but signal waves are just fluctuations in the current
@ilyamanyakin8241
@ilyamanyakin8241 3 года назад
@@atirutwattanamongkol8806 Signal waves you mean electrical signals? - If so then they are also waves, electromagnetic waves - either in medium or on surface of conductors...
@gabrielxavier2676
@gabrielxavier2676 3 года назад
Are there physical filters? Or do you mean the ones we do with electronic components?
@goddessdeedeebubblesofimag7789
@goddessdeedeebubblesofimag7789 3 года назад
I never heard parentheses be called something as fancy as _parabolic antenna._
@lucasc5622
@lucasc5622 3 года назад
I never heard brackets being called something as fancy as parentheses
@WiseMasterNinja
@WiseMasterNinja 3 года назад
@@lucasc5622 I never heard curve bois be called anything as fancy as brackets.
@ElectricGun100
@ElectricGun100 3 года назад
@@WiseMasterNinja sideway eyebrows
@MiScusi69
@MiScusi69 3 года назад
@@WiseMasterNinja I never heard lines be called as fancy as curvy bois.
@average-neco-arc-enjoyer
@average-neco-arc-enjoyer 3 года назад
@@WiseMasterNinja I've never heard "c" be called something as fancy as curved bois.
@JxH
@JxH 3 года назад
The scale of your colour coding apparently covers an immense dynamic range, because that repeated back-and-forth multiple reflections is never actually seen in practice (at least in radio communications). The dynamic range of radio communications is such that the secondary and tertiary reflections are lost in the thermal noise. If it were not, then the passband would show frequency dependant effects. Thankfully it's not actually a real world thing.
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 3 года назад
I think the colors cover about 40 to 50 dB. In a couple days there will be a simulation showing a log plot of the energy along a color plot like here, for a different geometry.
@SimonBuchanNz
@SimonBuchanNz 3 года назад
I wouldn't be surprised to see the effects shown when the antennae are this close?
@JxH
@JxH 3 года назад
@@SimonBuchanNz They're not close !! Based on ~46s travel time at 'c', they're almost 14 million km apart. Of course this implies that they're each about 7 million km in diameter... ;-) !!
@JxH
@JxH 3 года назад
@@NilsBerglund Hmmmm... The colour starts out red, and strangely stays red - even as the initial circular wavefront from the feed point spreads out. Just spreading loss alone should have the wavefront changing colour in the first 10s of the video. Perhaps the colour scale has a flat-top section where it's constant colour over at least a magnitude of dynamic range. If the present colour is not log, then it's linear? If it was linear, then it would even more so fade away if the colour scale was distributed linearly. Beware Radio Communications vice Physics (especially Optics), as there can sometimes be confusion and/or miscommunication between 10*Log... and 20*Log... (power density vice field amplitude); almost if they're sometimes speaking a different language. :-)
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 3 года назад
You're right, I feed the energy into a flattening tanh() function because I don't know the range beforehand. Maybe I should decrease the contrast to get more range, or use a log scale. There will be a log plot for a different geometry in a couple of days.
@ArthurTavares
@ArthurTavares 4 месяца назад
And this is how we send and receiv information by waves... It is amazing that we can modulate the waves so the signal can transport information in detail to be recgnized and reconstructed on the other side. Science is amazing!
@Sp1der44
@Sp1der44 2 года назад
That's a pretty cool simulation - I like how you can see right where the focal point is and why the feedhorn / sensor sits in that exact position. This is also relevant to how a parabolic microphone would gather and amplify a wave. Great Stuff!
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 2 года назад
Thank you very much! You may want to check out the new version ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PpKqNk_G2Hw.html as well
@dariugrinov9472
@dariugrinov9472 3 года назад
2:19 put it on x2 speed and the music becomes drum and bass
@rstous7691
@rstous7691 3 года назад
Thought this was a Bill Wurtz video when I clicked on it Still enjoyed it!
@pinngg6907
@pinngg6907 3 года назад
( )
@mage4083
@mage4083 3 года назад
My thoughts exactly lmao
@zurkozajebant9783
@zurkozajebant9783 3 года назад
Same lol
@kristyandesouza5980
@kristyandesouza5980 3 года назад
YES me too
@kristyandesouza5980
@kristyandesouza5980 3 года назад
Idk there is something so iconic on Bill wurtz style
@mathyoooo2
@mathyoooo2 3 года назад
a lot more beautiful than I was expecting. The interference pattern at 1:50 almost looks like some sort of plant growing
@Mikelica69
@Mikelica69 3 года назад
Wow yes
@AlessioSangalli
@AlessioSangalli 3 года назад
Is that actual interference pattern or an artifact of the simulation?
@mewintle
@mewintle 3 года назад
The human brain loves fractal patterns. Clouds, trees, water, moiré, doesn’t matter where it comes from. Fractals are brain food. Or at least yummy spice.
@MrOvipare
@MrOvipare 3 года назад
​@@AlessioSangalli I would say it's somewhere in between, but mostly due to the size of the mirror and the fact that they diffract the wavefront. 1) There are some artifacts visible, for instance if you look at 0:13 you see that after the reflection on the left parabolic mirror, there are multiple dim circles present. This looks like it's coming from the sharp edges of the pixelated mirror, reflections coming from those should look like light emerging from point sources. It reminds me of the huygens principle stating that any wavefront can be described as the sum of distributed point sources. In our case the distribution is not 100% optimal, otherwise you wouldn't even see any residual circles. 2) The shape you are asking about looks to me like it's the resulting diffraction pattern of the mirror itself. The mirror is finite and the wavefront "sees" this a diffracting object (like an aperture/slit). In the simulation if the size of the mirror was much bigger but with the same curvature you would surely an interference pattern that is a lot less complex. In optics we have to think about this when using a lens to focus a beam. If the lens is too small compared to the beam, the lens will diffract the beam you will not obtain a nice focal spot.
@SabahAlSabahs
@SabahAlSabahs 2 года назад
At the two minute mark It kind of looks like the interference pattern seen in the double slit experiment.
@lordandrewiesq.8825
@lordandrewiesq.8825 7 месяцев назад
If you put play back speed to 2x and skip to 2:30 the music is absolutely fire
@billgiles3261
@billgiles3261 7 месяцев назад
I recall at school in science the teacher setting up two parabolas and creating a spark in one with a battery and that spark being copied in the other parabola although there was no power there. This was a great demonstration of how that could refocus the energy of the spark. Of course it is the basis of radio, and these days microwave transmission.
@AleksyGrabovski
@AleksyGrabovski 3 года назад
Nice simulation, the best way to experience it is to travel to some place that has an acoustic mirror installed. It is crazy how loud it can get near the focal point of a destination dish.
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 3 года назад
Thanks! You also have that in some old buildings, such as the dome of St-Paul's cathedral in London, UK.
@superscatboy
@superscatboy 3 года назад
There's a theme park I used to go to as a kid that has those on either side of this huge hall. You could easily talk to a mate over all the other noise going on, they're proper trippy.
@rustyaxelrod
@rustyaxelrod 3 года назад
There is a set of parabolic acoustic reflectors on the side of a large hill at the space museum in Alamogordo NM. Surprisingly effective.
@jasonjacoby
@jasonjacoby 3 года назад
They are a lot of fun. I've never seen a good visualization of it before!
@Dmaher1111
@Dmaher1111 3 года назад
Science works melbourne has this very cool you can almost whisper into the dish and you mate on the other side hears it clear as a bell
@shrub4248
@shrub4248 3 года назад
Would love to see a graph of the received power over time alongside it
@mistathenicepersonthatwont2546
@mistathenicepersonthatwont2546 3 года назад
what power
@Wadmd
@Wadmd 3 года назад
@@mistathenicepersonthatwont2546 received power in milliwatts or dBm. Basically the strength of your signal, think of it like how many "bars" your cell phone has to a tower. Those bars on your phone translate to rssi or rsrq or received signal strength. This visualization shows color range, red meaning strong signal, to green to blue weak signal. The red strength could be something like -50 or better dBM, where the green in the -60's, and blue in the -80's. Closer to 0 is stronger, further from 0 is weaker. Not all wireless is same range. LTE or cell phones, -80 dBm is good, and -120 dBm is poor.
@mistathenicepersonthatwont2546
@mistathenicepersonthatwont2546 3 года назад
@@Wadmd bro its me downloading 1 megabyte of big chungus meme
@alxuria
@alxuria 3 года назад
@@mistathenicepersonthatwont2546 lmfao
@RGaming108
@RGaming108 2 года назад
@@Wadmd I work with satellite communication and in our feild -120 is like the silence of space lol. -80 is hardly anything at all if there's something we work within an acceptable range of like -60 up to -5 or -4 depending on whats being measured. Edited for spelling error
@leksluthor3
@leksluthor3 3 года назад
1:05 it’s Wednesday my dudes.
@DreadEnder
@DreadEnder 16 дней назад
Indeed it is
@CoolDeveloperOnBalance
@CoolDeveloperOnBalance 13 дней назад
it's saturday
@USERNAME1-x5u
@USERNAME1-x5u 12 дней назад
It's Sunday
@NeedlesSweetToothKaneTheClown
@NeedlesSweetToothKaneTheClown 20 дней назад
This is like one of those things I see when I'm sleep-deprived and hallucinating in a dark room.
@5mmTech
@5mmTech 3 месяца назад
Please forgive my ignorance on the subject as I'm brand new. Regarding the part of the initial wave that didn't touch the first parabola, once it arrives at the second parabola (around 0:33) is it received simply as noise? Would the other antenna, generally speaking, have a threshold filter that would filter it out? Thank you for making this.
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 3 месяца назад
That part of the wave would be received as a fainter and unfocused version of the signal. The longer the distance between the parabolic reflectors, the fainter this part would be. Real dishes use a directional emitter, to avoid this part of the wave altogether.
@5mmTech
@5mmTech 3 месяца назад
​@@NilsBerglundthank you so much for the reply. That's extremely helpful. I really enjoyed your video. Have a great day!
@SaraWolffs
@SaraWolffs 3 года назад
Awesome, better than I hoped! Thank you for all the demonstrations you've been putting up. It's interesting how the wave doesn't seem to do any wrapping around the edges, is that due to them being sharp?
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 3 года назад
I think so, yes. There should be some diffraction on any edge, but it will depend on the angle at the edge. Also, I lowered the contrast a bit compared to some previous simulations.
@TheNapalmFTW
@TheNapalmFTW 3 года назад
Radio engineers sometimes use the edge effect to diffract radio signals to the other side of mountains.
@Max_Marz
@Max_Marz 3 года назад
I have been interested in point to point microwave for a long time and never has this connected with me in such an intuitive way. the color grading and seeing everything hit the focal point at the receiving end really did it for me.
@doctorspin8085
@doctorspin8085 7 месяцев назад
and in phase too!
@tonymintz8537
@tonymintz8537 3 года назад
For real, the fact that we can understand something as simple as this is a such a beautiful concept. Hope we all can find peace in our minds with our understanding of the universe.
@camerapasteurize7215
@camerapasteurize7215 13 дней назад
Beautiful demonstration of the effectiveness of parabolic reflectors with recievers/transmitters
@FalloutUrMum
@FalloutUrMum 7 месяцев назад
For anyone wondering, this is why satellite receivers are usually shaped like a shallow bowl. That bit sticking out in the middle is where the magic happens. Do not touch that bit, it gets insanely hot. Now if you want to see something really mind blowing, you should see a cross section of one of those middle bits. Different ones for different wavelengths have different amounts of spacing.
@iwaited90daystochangemynam55
@iwaited90daystochangemynam55 3 года назад
The music makes me feel like the king of the world.
@professordanfurmanek3732
@professordanfurmanek3732 3 года назад
University Astronomy Professor: Fluid Dynamics in all its magnificent splendor! The applications and implications of this beautiful simulation are Beyond far-reaching!! From the macroscopic universe to the world of quantum mechanics!!
@kevinchen8325
@kevinchen8325 3 года назад
I love how the waves get the smallest exactly at the focus of the antennas
@Ganjalf_the_Green
@Ganjalf_the_Green 12 дней назад
I NEED my advanced antenna engineering lectures to start as soon as possible. After RF circuits and microwaves I really want to understand how antennas work!
@witoldgrabowski9263
@witoldgrabowski9263 3 года назад
This is hypnotic ! Thank you ! I want to see it in a ten-hour looped version !
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 3 года назад
Maybe one day!
@phutureproof
@phutureproof 7 месяцев назад
No you dont
@LonnyH
@LonnyH 3 года назад
This is one of those videos you wish they had 3x speed for.
@Rafael-pi4md
@Rafael-pi4md 3 года назад
you actually can speed any youtube video to any value up to 16, if you are on computer type Ctrl + Shift + J, in the tab that opened copy and paste document.getElementsByTagName("video")[0].playbackRate = x where x is the speed you want, for example 3, then press enter, you can close the tab and play the video
@LonnyH
@LonnyH 3 года назад
@@Rafael-pi4md *cries in mobile app*
@tripodgamer
@tripodgamer 3 года назад
@@LonnyH just press the 3 dots
@TheBigLou13
@TheBigLou13 3 года назад
These animations have something so soothing and satisfying 💕
@NoosaHeads
@NoosaHeads 17 дней назад
This is one of the most beautiful things I have ever laid eyes on. The interference patterns are beyond my conception and cognitive abilities (the maths behind this are astonishingly complicated and could only ever be done with a sophisticated computer algorithm) but I, at least appreciate the work and thought that has gone into this glorious animation. Thank you for the effort you've put into this.
@irresponsibledad
@irresponsibledad 6 месяцев назад
From the thumbnail, I thought there was a new Bill Wurtz video
@butstough
@butstough 3 года назад
Thank you so much for posting the C code. I've been thinking recently about simulating wave propagation and interference/beam forming from various speaker drivers, while simulating cone break-up in 2D, among other things. Then this video gets randomly suggested... the mind boggles at the algorithm.
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 3 года назад
You're welcome! Keep in mind I used the simplest possible algorithm, so depending on what you want to simulate, it may be necessary to use an improved version.
@butstough
@butstough 3 года назад
@@NilsBerglund Yes, I will probably have to stare blankly at it for some time to even have a faint idea what its doing. Then figure out how to make a rough approximation of a driver...
@timwhite7127
@timwhite7127 20 дней назад
Damn, I wish we had graphics like this back in the '60's when I was doing acid...
@Rick_Mave
@Rick_Mave 3 года назад
From a different point of view, this video is a remarkalble proof of how science and digital art can coexist.
@lolerskatez
@lolerskatez 3 года назад
Is there a suggestion that they couldn't or don't already?
@Rick_Mave
@Rick_Mave 3 года назад
@@lolerskatez My photographic eye is always looking for simmetries and reflections or for any geometric patterns and textures that can be spotted in natural or less natural landscapes. This is what motivated my comment. I love the human ability of generating works of art, either on purpose or not.
@keisisqrl
@keisisqrl 7 месяцев назад
when the parabolas said F the inverse square law I felt that
@RaidingCoalition
@RaidingCoalition 5 месяцев назад
After watching this i think that i now realize why most satellite dishes are parabolic. The dots near each antenna to me represent the receiver module as most of the energy gets reflected through one of the two points once it bounces off the antenna behind said point. Amazing simulation btw
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 5 месяцев назад
Thanks. This is indeed precisely the role of the focal points.
@AChippendale
@AChippendale 3 года назад
Funny how it looks like an eye from different perspectives at different times.
@MeltedMask
@MeltedMask 3 года назад
I just wonder what will happened if you have this same configuration, but antennas are closer and shares same focus point.
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 3 года назад
See my reply to Kram1032.
@bojangles2492
@bojangles2492 5 месяцев назад
I remember in school when they would draw a parabolic curve and these perfect reflection lines.
@caryccharlson
@caryccharlson 5 месяцев назад
The placement of the receiver transmitter in the parabolic formula escapes me right now but I completely understand why the emplacement is so important I knew that it worked I didn't know why it worked
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 5 месяцев назад
This particular point is known as the focal point, or focus of the parabola.
@ZetsKai
@ZetsKai 3 года назад
This video is so motivational and inspiring
@mipmip4575
@mipmip4575 3 года назад
lol
@KitagumaIgen
@KitagumaIgen 3 года назад
Is the light-blue trailing pattern at ~0.15 s due to interference from the distcretized parabolic surface?
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 3 года назад
I think so, although I'm not completely sure. I'm using here a simple discretization on a square grid, which does not fit the parabolas. It would probably be better to use a finite elements discretization adapted to the parabolas, but that would be harder to code...
@Topspeedcraft
@Topspeedcraft 3 года назад
@@NilsBerglund i actually thought this was a finite element simulation, although the straigt line formed after the first bounce made me doubt it for a bit. This is great!! Thanks a lot!
@Kram1032
@Kram1032 3 года назад
what if the two mirrors share a focal point?
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 3 года назад
Then the wave should keep alternating between planar and circular. It could be fun to try it, thanks!
@VolcanoVistaXC
@VolcanoVistaXC 3 года назад
@@NilsBerglund This sounds like an example of an optical resonator. Lots of interesting math and physics to be visualized there with different configurations and stability conditions!
@gabemerritt3139
@gabemerritt3139 3 года назад
If the wave origin was also the focal point would it not have destructive interference with itself after the first reflection?
@vraw865
@vraw865 3 года назад
I had a friend that made these two parabolic antennas in real life (around 2 meters high each) 10 meters from one another. When you whispered towards one of them, the person in the front of the other one could hear what you said. It was amazing and bizarre at the same time.
@bomblii
@bomblii 7 месяцев назад
me when i am a wave and i'm travelling between 2 parabolic antennas
@miketate3445
@miketate3445 7 месяцев назад
It is striking and beautiful to see the waves focus on the receiver antennas like that.
@theelephantintheroom69
@theelephantintheroom69 7 месяцев назад
Changed my life forever.
@raynic1173
@raynic1173 7 месяцев назад
I felt like god was going to show his face...
@Astinel
@Astinel 3 года назад
( 🌊 )
@Maxym-sk4zq
@Maxym-sk4zq 7 месяцев назад
This is actually very helpful for better understanding of radio waves. I would absolutely love to see more on the topic
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 7 месяцев назад
There are many more like this in the playlist ru-vid.com/group/PLAZp3rbgWLo3VO2rqVKyL1T6DUmnDAaEN
@GillAndBurtTheCop
@GillAndBurtTheCop 7 месяцев назад
Am I supposed to be cheering for something like this the way I am right now?
@frikyouall
@frikyouall 4 месяца назад
This actually cleared a few things up for me, thank you.
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 4 месяца назад
Glad it helped!
@me14ch
@me14ch 2 года назад
As a student who never listen and gets bored in science class, just watching this made me question my existence. Its too beautiful
@prestorock23
@prestorock23 3 года назад
The fact that people can describe this using math equations is mindblowing. Beautiful
@hubercats
@hubercats 7 месяцев назад
Your simulation results are really interesting. I’d be quite interested to see similar images for a microwave cavity resonator field as I’ve long tried to visualize such. Thanks much!
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 7 месяцев назад
Thanks! While I have not simulated microwave cavities as such, I have several sims of "parabolic resonators" that may interest you, they are in the playlist ru-vid.com/group/PLAZp3rbgWLo3VO2rqVKyL1T6DUmnDAaEN
@Critter145
@Critter145 7 месяцев назад
The ship from Stargate Universe, Destiny, looks exactly like the reflections off these parabolic mirrors. Fascinating.
@RatBasterd
@RatBasterd 7 месяцев назад
Not sure why the almighty algorithm thought I should see this, but it was absolutely mesmerizing.
@BurgerSoda
@BurgerSoda 7 месяцев назад
So basically, when you shine a light through one of the two dots inside it, they will only pass through the dots. When you a shine a light through the area in between the dots, the light will only pass through the middle area, and when you shine the light outside of the that middle area, the light will only pass through the area outside the middle line
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 7 месяцев назад
That is indeed the case for ellipses, and a pair of parabolas that are far away is basically the same. For ellipses, see ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kQBnYkGaC_I.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Hi2ShwiPtWU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--aZ-GiAXh3U.html
@ghlscitel6714
@ghlscitel6714 7 месяцев назад
I did not expect what I saw. Really thought-provoking video!
@N3ur0m4nc3r
@N3ur0m4nc3r 7 месяцев назад
"That's, that's Chaos Theory" -Dr. Ian Malcolm
@UncleBoobieCosmicOverlord
@UncleBoobieCosmicOverlord 6 месяцев назад
This is all I'm going to think about all day
@codemechanic2024
@codemechanic2024 20 дней назад
never Admired my calculus lessons related to focal point of parabola until my teacher explained its usage in dish antenas.
@TheDaggwood
@TheDaggwood 7 месяцев назад
That's a LDE. Long Delay Echos are pretty sweet.
@ArtForSwans
@ArtForSwans 7 месяцев назад
idk why this showed up in my recommended but it just made me realize how we're able to pick up and send signals from and to spacecraft located as far away as the edge of the solar system. The beams spread out by the time they get to their destination, but you don't need to capture all of the radio waves to interpret the data, only a small portion. As long as the wave wasn't distorted too badly, the sequence of the bits will be preserved.
@JackBond1234
@JackBond1234 5 месяцев назад
It was interesting that the left antenna reflected the circular wave into a flat one, but the right antenna did not flatten the curve because it traveled farther and lost some of its curvature due to the increased radius.
@andescarrasco5755
@andescarrasco5755 3 года назад
This is brutal; i’ve been in between two parabolic metals, and you can talk like you have the person in front of you, but it’s 20-30 meters away, and only with your normal voice, even wispers.
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 3 года назад
Ikr...?
@c4b0ombazzist90
@c4b0ombazzist90 5 месяцев назад
Best screen saver ever
@arthurbrito5910
@arthurbrito5910 7 месяцев назад
The paralel waves going to the focus are beautiful
@freehand.underhand
@freehand.underhand 2 года назад
no idea what this is or why YT recommend it, but definitely flattered that the algorithm thinks I'm smart enough to appreciate this
@freshdumbi999
@freshdumbi999 3 года назад
This knowledge doesn‘t give me any advice or help for my life, yet i am sitting here in the middle of the night thinking „mm yes very interesting“
@trudyandgeorge
@trudyandgeorge 3 года назад
The initial reflection really shows why parabolic mirrors are used in reflectors.
@jevirandio
@jevirandio 7 месяцев назад
This is what I am watching instead of studying
@ianklanfer4887
@ianklanfer4887 5 месяцев назад
The timings incredible and it's cool how it comes off flat with the curved surface hitting the curved surface and it seems to do something in the exact same spot at the dot on the other side and then it seems to terminate backwards started Pretty cool
@joels7605
@joels7605 7 месяцев назад
This is an excellent visualization. That got a subscribe. Thank you.
@thomascleveland
@thomascleveland 2 года назад
So cool too see how the waves don't bump into each other, they just pass right through each other yet they can cancel each other out like waves in a jump rope.
@FailRaceFan
@FailRaceFan 7 месяцев назад
A real life analogy: You have two buckets, one is filled with water. Everytime you fill the other bucket, a bit of water spills out and gets lost.
@FoxDog1080
@FoxDog1080 7 месяцев назад
Imagine the magnification you'd get from something this precise
@anson7064
@anson7064 19 дней назад
Explanation: The node where the wave starts is at the parabola’s foci, a specific point where the wave can bounce perfectly to form a straight line coming out. When it hits the other parabola, it bounces directly into the opposite foci.
@samuelatwood9924
@samuelatwood9924 7 месяцев назад
in the 1980's I went to a science exhibit at Balboa Park. There were tons of interactive displays and one of them consisted of 2 huge parabolic dishes mounted on walls about 50 yards apart. If you spoke facing one of the dishes your voice could be clearly heard on the other side of the room. It was very cool.
@walterpcjr
@walterpcjr 7 месяцев назад
Interesting simulation. However, it is worth mentioning that, in most parabolic antennas, the primary source of the fields (in the transmitting antenna feeder) is not omnidirectional, but directive. Therefore, the part of the energy that is radiated directly from the primary source to the receiving antenna (without being reflected on the transmitting parabola) is much smaller. However, there are some antennas whose primary source is a dipole (and therefore omnidirectional). In this case, the simulation is more realistic.
@andrelucena3232
@andrelucena3232 7 месяцев назад
I don't know what I'm watching, but it gets wild when you watch it at speed x2
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 21 день назад
The first reflection gives a fairly coherent straight line segment. Unfortunately, pretty soon after the second reflection, the only visible effects are effects of the ends of the reflectors, i.e. the parts which are not parabolic.
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 21 день назад
For the pattern to repeat, one needs to put the reflectors closer to each other, so that they share their focal point: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-n19XjuK_Dgs.html
@zacharybigger4144
@zacharybigger4144 6 месяцев назад
I think I'm most intrigued by the idea that the distance between the two antennae doesn't actually matter... the focal points are going to be interesting convergence zones no matter the distance between the two
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 6 месяцев назад
That is precisely why spacecrafts and satellites use parabolic antennae to send signals to Earth, and receive them.
@AzharAhmadazharahmad001
@AzharAhmadazharahmad001 2 года назад
The beautiful part is we can see the energy distribution also as the wave travels and loses its energy with each reflections..
@SteffDev
@SteffDev 4 месяца назад
And to think that all this is constantly happening around us, AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT! is mindblowing
@juststardust8103
@juststardust8103 7 месяцев назад
I could watch this all day long.
@AliensAreNoobs
@AliensAreNoobs 2 года назад
I have literally no idea what any of this means but RU-vid thought I should see it. It looks nice so I approve RU-vid.
@garchafpv
@garchafpv 2 года назад
This is all I needed to understand how point to point antenas work, thanks 👍🙏
@NilsBerglund
@NilsBerglund 2 года назад
You're welcome!
@juano3000
@juano3000 3 года назад
This explains perfectly the Double Slit Experiment, opposing the Copenhaguen interpretation.
@holopengin
@holopengin 6 месяцев назад
My school had a couple parabolic dishes on the roof specifically as a physical demonstration of doing this with sound. You could talk to the person at the other dish across the roof as if they were right next to you.
@williamruzicka2073
@williamruzicka2073 7 месяцев назад
Very cool! Did a simulation of GPR in college bouncing off an object in a medium and could see the evanescent waves in the simulation.
@tim.b904
@tim.b904 10 дней назад
the video according to the video : A wave traveling between two parabolic antennas the video according to the music : video to motivate yourself.
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