Feels great to be back into feature work after that month of bug fixes! Just wanted to drop in and say thanks for all the support y'all have shown for the channel over the past year. It's a privilege to be able to share this content with so many passionate people, and I'm excited to keep it going in 2023! Hope everyone has a wonderful and safe holiday.
ok, how is your desk so clean & organized? Is that just your 'on camera' desk, and your real one is in another room? I do not understand organized, tidy people.
I think you should have an exclamation point pop out above the fish when you get close, then swim away when you get closer. That way the player doesn't get confused and think fish just swim away. But instead they get alerted before leaving. Maybe a small spook meter or something.
I love watching these devlogs. They mean so much to me!! When the first one came out I was learning how to code in C# and it inspired me to create my first game!! And now I’m going to uni for game development!!!
A concept for the reeling minigame; some form of real time event, requiring the player to click bubbles when an outer ring around said bubbles is around the original bubble. Harder fish could require either more bubbles or have faster ring shrinking times. Easy enough to do with one hand, while keeping the player engaged in the moment. Thanks for the awesome videos!
While I don't have a specific game recommendation, as far as fishing features go, I think with the system that you're creating as far as an extensive tackle box and different types of bait would benefit a lot from making each feel impactful and unique. Rather than a few percentage points higher reel speed or something, giving each one different categories of fish they're more proficient at catching, maybe expanding the lure radius so more fish come by, making the fish have unique shadows so players can search for a specific one they might need, and so on will motivate players to add all of the different versions to their collection log and try out each unique upgrade. Another option so it may not feel as overwhelming to players is to narrow down the number of options but make each lure upgradable with items, maybe give them durability that they eventually break but can be repaired using collectables so people are encouraged to engage in multiple aspects of the game. Still love this series and really looking forward to playing when it comes out!
Always loved the mechanic in ToonTown how fishing required bait, which was jellybeans, which were also your currency, and you could only carry I think around 40 at the start of the game. I think one of the big issues fishing minigames have is their repetition - you're always casting a line and reeling it in. I think adding some more variety to the gameplay loop might make it a bit more interesting - things like being able to put different kinds of bait, different hook sizes and types, different lures. Then have different fish spawning at different levels or different depths or different areas, attracted to different things. Have some fish rarer than others. Have non-fish items you can reel in, litter and pollution etc (perhaps affected / decreases by player action). Always loved the Club Penguin fishing minigame that was filled with hazards for you to avoid or else you lose the line + the fish - they had crabs cutting the line or jellyfish to shock you.
Great update. Was just gonna share that so far my favorite fishing mechanic in a game has come from My Time at Portia. Basically you try to keep a target focused on the fish as it swims back and forth. If you're off target, tension is added, and if you're on target tension is slowly alleviated. You can reel at any point. Reeling on target still increases tension, but reeling off target adds a ton of tension. If at any point you go over tension limit, line snaps and fish is gone. If you reel enough without snapping, you catch it. Different fish have different swimming patterns which you have to learn to stay on target, and some fish add a lot of tension when reeling and others not so much.
Watching your videos makes me want to pick up game dev, you’ve got a great skill for explaining your thought process and making this stuff seem so interesting. Also great b roll
I would say for the feel of dauphin so far something similar to Stardew Valley's fishing system with your own twist on it would be super cool. You had some clips of Runescape's fishing mechanic and while I do love Runescape and have spent many hours fishing in it I think that sort of skilling would be a bit to monotonous and grindy for this sort of game. Love the progress you've made so far super inspiring!
Good video as always, keep up the good work! Btw guild wars 2 got a new expension this year called end of dragons. One of the core features is fishing and I liked the implementation. It could give some inspirations about the collection part too
I wanted to suggest the same! I find GW2 fishing quite nice, I definitely didn't think I would enjoy fishing as much as I did, it was quite surprising as I don't usually enjoy fishing mini games
As a kid I really enjoyed the fishing mechanics in the sims castaway (on the DS). Especially the spear fishing where every type of fish had a unique movement pattern and your spear had a slight delay so it took quite a bit of skill to spear the fish.
Great video! I like the game. I'm also updating to Godot 4. Sometimes it's a little complicated to find the right resources when certain functions changed. I didn't know about the setters and getters. But now that I learned from your video, I can implement it right away. ^^
Man. devduck is so inspiring. i freaking love your uploads man, i wish i was a better coder but the work to put it at the beginning is just so intimidating
I think as far as fishing experiences that I liked in games it would be Ocarina of Time, which you already mentioned, and Far Cry 5. Anyway, love watching this progress vids. Hope you and yours are having a good holiday and looking forward to more content in 2023!
Great and relaxing devlog, as always. One thing that I noticed is though reeling in and jiggling the bait do two different things, they are visibly identical, which could cause the player some confusion. If jiggling the bait is only intended to bring it towards the player without a perpendicular component, perhaps it is better just as one input. Regarding interactive fishing systems, I can't think of any that weren't fundamental to the game (Subnautica and those arcade-style fishing games). On the other hand, I can think of some games with boring/repetitive fishing: Minecraft and Wizards 101 come to mind. (Wizard 101 had a great system, I just felt like I had to grind it to the point of boredom). The main problem with fishing is that, in itself, it is a non-intensive, repetitive task, which some players would always find boring (not that this game is designed by any means with those players in mind). Therefore, the interest in fishing has to come from the player. Forcing the player to fish a bit here and there for a quest is fine, but the player should never feel like they are forced to fish, especially for a long time. This is why fishing in Minecraft is so boring: most players fish strictly to obtain rare drops like enchantments or saddles, the latter being very difficult to find otherwise, so players are basically forced to fish if they want to ride a horse. (This is not to say that rare or exclusive drops are bad, but they shouldn't gatekeep features or be without an equivalent alternative if the player wants to do something else-- Temmie Armor in Undertale is an example to avoid because it is unequivalently the best armor available to the player at the time, so the player feels like they have to grind the grind for it). Because of this, I think your current fishing system is great: >The point of fishing is fishing for fish, not rare drops, so the player is often feeling rewarded. >You can tell what fish are near the hook, so you aren't stuck fishing for a while based on RNG (as long as the player isn't circling the island waiting for the fish they want to spawn). >The rods are extremely customizable, which gives the player a greater sense of control than in Minecraft. (Perhaps you could make this more visual when fishing-- changing the line or bait color or something to remind them that they chose this combination that is having a direct impact on their success). Just never force an unwilling player to fish for a long time with this system because they will always see fishing as find fish, cast, reel, cast, reel, find fish, cast, reel, etc. [I am by no means a professional game designer, and everything I said was based off of personal experience and perhaps a few RU-vid videos here and there, so take everything I said with a grain of salt.]
Hey mate I also make games in Godot 4, I enjoy watching your dev logs and it has been great to see you embrace Godot 4, I recently just finished coding a PhysicsServer2D and RenderingServer system for all my enemies in game, I can spawn up to 3000 rigid bodies with physics! You probably don't need to do that with this game but it's quite a powerful tool that can give you a massive FPS boost in regards to many enemies/objects spawned!
Ys 8: Lacrimosa Of Dana has a nice fishing mini-game. Simple enough that I actually did fish while exploring to discover new species, but still a pretty involved process with many things to do and consider to catch something.
Omg! That dog is amazing. It looks like a stuffed animal. As for the fishing, loving the progress. I have no suggestions for a game with fishing. Stardew Valley is what came to mind, but you clearly already know about it.
Not sure if you've got any story going but I recall a video about your boat and travel between islands. I wonder if the corruption is being brought from a "large" island and you start on a small one. Even cleaning up the island completely won't prevent it because you can see in the water a line of corruption heading off into the distance, this could be a path to another island (or multiple lines from multiple islands). Eventually, it'll lead you to this main landmass that is the source of all corruption (whatever that is). Since this allows you an idea of where the islands are without much "exploration" you could have secrets slightly outside the paths, like underwater caves you could explore for more/stronger purification powers. Maybe you said this or I read this somewhere, it's been a long year so I apologize if I did take this somewhere. Great job on the upgrade and looking forward to more progress! Happy holidays.
I think that perhaps some sort of animation added to the player character for reeling in the bait would also make the whole fishing experience feel a lot more alive
I'm not sure how Godot works (I use unity), but I think it would be a good idea to see if you could make a mask for your water layer. If you could somehow make a layer that masks all water based sprites to only be seen on / above the water you could make it so the fishing ripples and the players feet when in the water, would only show those visuals when actually overtop of that water layer / mask. Again, not sure if this is actually possible or the right approach in Godot, but thought it would really clean up the look and sell the feel of water being water and not just a looped sprite! Great work on the fishing system and Merry Christmas!
I (almost) always love fishing mini games. My favorite implementation is the system I used for my game Swords and Souls: Neverseen but you can see the same system in Potion Permit. It's a reel in VS let go approach based on the fish struggling behaviour. Love it! P.S: I'm jealous of your curved line renderer fishing line o_o
For reeling in, I loved the mechanics from Stardew Valley! It's was a great way to show how fishes behave and how you have to counter them and reel them in
Such good progress! It's great to see that everything is going so well for you. I have suggestion though, I feel like the water looks very unnatural and static, idk but I feel like some sort of shader texture might be better and look a lot more natural. But I can totally understand if that's something you don't need to do rn :) Because I also made a game jam game in godot in a weekend here in december and graphics were hard to do
the legend of heroes games almost all have some form of a fishing minigame, and they vary a lot from game to game, so it could give you some inspiration.
Some post processing and ambient particles would make it look even better :D (bloom, little vignette, atmosphere). My favorite fishing in any game was in Zelda Ocarina of Time, maybe could make a 2D version of it with even more content?
Three fishing mechanics immediately coming to my mind: - **The Elder Scrolls Online** has a simplified mini game. You don't have to do anything specific, except activating a fishing node, then hitting your Reel In shortcut key the moment your line starts to wiggle. If you take too long, it will snap. - **The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening (mini game):** Link throws the bait depending on how long you hold down the button. Then button presses will reel in the bait a tiny bit, generating movement and attract fish. It's essentially a button masher. - **NieR Replicant:** You have to reel in the fish when it's not pulling, but you also have to make sure to steer the gamepad stick in the right direction, which is indicated by different strength of force feedback. It's a creative middle-way between just button mashing and timing/aiming minigames.
The fishing mini game in red dead redemption 2 is pretty fun and would translate well to 2d. The main mini game comes down to reel in when fish is tired, don’t feel when fish is struggling. I’m really enjoying this series, gives me something to look forward to.
Good fishing RPG: Legend of the River King on the Nintendo Gameboy. I remember being very impressed with the detail once I actually figured out the mechanics.
One of the games I like fishing in is Wizard101. It's not complicated, just cast your line and wait for a bite, but the sheer variety of fish there are is really cool. The sound design is something I would really like to point out. When trying to catch a fish, a sound is played every time the fish nibbles. Kind of a *kerplunk*. When the fish bites for real, and the lure dips under the surface, you get a slightly different sound *plus* a higher pitched sound. Depending on the power of your computer, the visuals and audio can often get desynced. But because of that extra little sound for a true bite, you can just listen for that instead watching for the bobber to go down. There are a lot of hidden stats too that make things a bit more interesting than just cast, catch, cast, catch. I'd recommend watching a video on it for the hidden stats or trying it out in game, since you can get to fishing without needing to pay to play.
Hi Ben, merry christmas and happy new year, thank you for a new devlog, Dauphin looks great, I can´t wait to see more of it. Perhaps you'd want to see the fishing "system" on Harvest Moon from PSOne, maybe it can help you
trees displace the dirt around them, lifting inward and droping a ring around, rain results in scaterring of mud depending on soil type, My point is do you wanna do desert fish swimming in the sand?
It's not exactly a fishing mini-game, but the salvage mechanic from The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass is pretty fun, and you do have underwater scenes already.
For fishing, I used to be a big WoW fan and still login now and then. I got my dad hooked 😂 on WoW too, and the 2x things he loves the most in the game is cooking and… drumroll 🥁 fishing. He’ll sit there for hours fishing 🎣 . He loves it and finds it relaxing. Just a thought. It’s pretty basic, but the execution, modifiers, and variety of fish 🐠 are the key’s to it 🔑 .
Breath of Fire 4 might also be worth a look, with its unique layouts for each fishing spot and environmental obstacles. 4 was also compatible with a fishing controller, but that's probably a bit too much.
Fishing in Link's awakening redux should be a good inspiration, the thing that lack to your fishing mechanic is that you don't see what you're fishing, having a sort of visualization (or at least the choice of having one) where you can sort of target what fish to take (and maybe powerup or anything of that type) would make it very fun :)
normal fish could be an easy only bait at the right place and reel in but you could have some lengendary fish that need a tug of war with your awsd quick reel, (like a series of QTE) so when you want to drink you coffee and fish relax you can but some fish(that could glow) could be harder to catch and would need more concentration so the mini game still stay interesting. As always, nice video keep up the good work !!!
On of my favourites games with fishing mini-game is digimon world and digimon world 3. Digimon World is fun because the fish pulls the bait and you have to pull it back, but not much otherwise the fishing pole's line breaks. Digimon World 3 is nice because you have a bar and needs to try to land the marker on a good area.
Could you add a smooth transition between zoom in phases? In the sense of zoom event setting a target value and asynchronously incrementing towards it to make it smooth?
I enjoy fishing in terraria. It isn't as much of a minigame as you are aiming for, but one of the things which make it enjoyable to spend idle time on a relatively mundane task is there exist buffs that allow you to see what you have hooked before reeling it in, so you don't waste time or bait reeling in fish or treasures you have no use for.
i don't know whether you already did this or not (since the bait texture is too dark) but basically make so that when the bait goes underwater it gets the same shader that the fish has so that it would look like it's actually underwater and not just floating over it
hey, great stuff. one suggestion tho is that u should probably look at improving UI, UI is very rough still, or do u already have plans on improving it later on?
Merry Christmas DevDuck. A few of us have been wondering what your Ipad stand is. Are you able to share a link to it please as it's not in the description. Thank you
In animal crossing new horrizons is a nice fishing feature. If you don't have a Nintendo switch I'm sure you can find some footage on youtube of the whole process :))))
There is a fishing minigame in FF XII which is kind of like a puzzle game having to put in inputs. Not my favourite, but a concept you might enjoy. There is another in Jak and Daxter which was fun for a bit. Both of these are for getting a collection of fish rather than a single fish. I think a rhythm style mechanic could be fun and unique.
