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We pull a 500 bushel Brent grain cart through the field with a 100 horsepower tractor. It's a load, but not a big deal when only going 5mph. When we are only using our grain cart and truck we use our TG255 to pull it around
hell, son park that monster next to your house during the winter and rent it as an apartment lol. I am glad that you pick up and not damaged before you get to use it and will be a great help during combine crops.
i do some work for my brother in law that is a farmer, use to use a 8100 john deere with a grain cart around the same size or a size only thing he had to do is use the monster truck type of tire, so when the cart was loaded in wet ground the tire wouldn"t drag in ther mud and trust me when those type of tires even they would drag in the mud
Pull them all the time with pickups around these parts to deliver them, especially one that small. When they get to 1000 bushel or larger they use semi trucks with hitches. They actually pull really nice down the road..
That's plenty of tractor for pulling that cart around on dry level ground, but if the field is soft you'd want a bigger tractor with duals. Loaded they get pretty darn heavy! As for the tarp, yeah in the field it'll be open all the time. Handy to have when you have it loaded and quit for the night-- roll the tarp and head to the house. They say the same thing about semi trailer roll tarps on hopper bottoms-- always open the tarp before unloading or the grain pouring out the bottom will create enough vacuum to implode the tarp and bows... What I've never understood is why they don't install a vent up near the top of the trailer hoppers or in the tarp end caps to allow air in to prevent that sort of thing, but still keep water out. Louvers pointing downward would keep the water out, and an angled cover on the inside open to the bottom would allow air in while keeping grain from escaping through the louvers if the thing is overfilled. Something like a dryer vent is all it would take... Later! OL J R :)
When pulling a grain cart have a single axle big truck is best with air, they work the best, when I was being ours home,(in a storm) have the big truck worked great looks of power and didn't boss it around hardly any but the air suspension was work lot keep the ride nice and smooth
Congratulations Ryan. Nice. On a side note, have you ever heard the Jerry Clower story of his cousing Nugene when they went in the hay business ? Well they was loosing money, and Nugene said, well what we need is a bigger truck,lol. Sorry, just made me think of that seeing that big grain cart. Enjoy it and make lots of money with it.
I hate lifting like that with a forklift. All it becomes is an unpredictable spring board but sometimes its what needs to be done. If you don't mind me asking how much extra did it cost for the dealer to load the cart in Iowa then unload when you got it home or was that all included in the purchase price.
your 8235r and 4640 should handle it fine, we have a neighbour with a 750bu cart and he pulls it with a 4640. You'll like the brent a lot, we have a 1082 brent pulled by a 9230 john deere and we love it
Oh, and watch for power poles and overhead power lines when folding/unfolding... Nephew tangled the corner auger of the cart into a power pole a few years ago, and snapped the pole off before he got stopped, plus turned the auger folding cylinder into a horseshoe in the process, and shoved the cylinder mounts through the auger tube. Had to take it to a welding shop to straighten out the auger flighting and tube and replace the cylinder and weld up patches and new mounts. $1200 repair bill, and the light pole and after-hours repairs to the pole til they could replace it on Monday was another $1200... Lucky that the wires didn't come down-- lot of guys have gotten killed that way, or snagging a wire with the auger, or folding/unfolding the auger under a power line and the auger touching it as it comes "over the top" (when it's actually taller than when it's locked in place to unload). Later! OL J R :)
Your 8235R hitch is changed to single tongue setup. have not seen a clevis hitch on a grain cart since the 70's. Must be used like that in the Midwest for small gravity wagons. That must be some air tight tarp to need to be rolled up to unload corn. My 8235R pulls a 1100 bushel like a champ. The setup you have will be no sweat for the 8R.
I am not a farmer but have ridden in the buddy seat in an 8235R with way more than Ryan and his folks have ever required of theirs. I believe they will put it to the task more and more and see just how little they are using it's potential. The 8238R is a man tractor as you have pointed out. I too was thinking about how the unloading of grain should have little to no affect on the tarp. It must be air tight. :)
That tractor is capable of quite a bit more than that grain cart. I have pulled a 750 bu cart with an 8235R on singles and got along fine, and we aren't by any means flat. Wouldn't be afraid to pull 1000 bu if the tractor was dualed up. (And for the record, I pull that same 750 bu grain cart with our 8100 2wd and I know its also been on a 1586 before lol)
Sam Ziegler Ryan often talks about steep grades around their farms so I guess overpowered is good when you need it. I have noticed all of their waterways in fields and how they always take care not to damage them with tillage equipment.
So Ryan you bought the grain buggy do you get any compensation when used by others or do you just donate it to the cause. How is it decided who buys what.
How much it cost?. I never thought that I could be a fan of farming videos but the good thing is you're showing people a glimpse of how some farming done. Im a fan of knowhow videos and getting information on how to do things.
Your 8200 will have no problem. That extension on the torque wrench is way too long. BE SURE to recheck those lug nuts after a load or two. I don't think they got the full 100 ft pounds. Don't want them to get loose on you. Bad things happen quickly. JHolland
I remember when our Big 12 (400bu) in the 1960's seemed big for the JD 105 combine and 4020, size is relative. Now the carts unload at 600 bu/min. The 675 is a half pint but at $12,000 and so much help it is not a bad buy.
No it doesn't... look at the hubs when they're mounting the tires... no drums, no rotors, therefore NO BRAKES. Tractor brakes are plenty at field speeds in the field loaded, and on the highway it's empty and you don't even know it's back there... Not like they're pulling it with a Farmall M... LOL:) Later! OL J R :)
Yeah, just what I was thinking-- thing is only about 9,000 lbs they said... even my half-ton can pull that. Problem is, the tongue weight is usually pretty heavy, and that's where a stout one ton dually really comes in handy. I'd have just pulled the thing home with a pickup, myself, or had them deliver it behind the pickup. So long as the wheel bearings are greased well and the bearings aren't sloppy when they start, and you don't drive too fast and overheat the tires (30-35 or so, maybe 40 but no more on ag tires) it'll be fine. Heck those knobby tires ride a lot smoother than tractor tread tires! A 3 hour drive by truck is about 180 miles, so it'd be an all-day trip 6-7 hours I guess pulling it with a pickup, but that's not that bad actually. You gotta figure, if you run a tractor through the field for a full 12 hour day at 6 mph, you've covered 72 miles by the end of the day... and during harvest you'll be dragging that cart all over fields and roads and back and forth all day LOADED which is a heck of lot harder on it than toodling down the road empty... day in and day out... Course, whatever floats yer boat... :) Later! OL J R :)
Actually that's a pretty small cart by today's standards... 1100-1200 bushels and up (about 3x or so times the size of this one) are fairly common on big operations now. Can haul a semi-load and a half out of the field at one time when they're full... Later! OL J R :)
I work at another location for the same dealership and that is how they do everything. They don't believe in overhead cranes have to use forklifts for everything.
