If blitzo wasn't born, fizzy and ozzie wouldn't have met, stolas probably would still be with stella, millie and moxxie might have not met, loona would be on the streets. You think removing someone would make things better but it wouldn't, things would probably be worse.
@@KobeRogers-vw8nx sure, meaning blitzo wouldn't have tried to steal stolas' book, Fizzaroli would still have his arms, legs and horns, Barbie wouldn't have gone to drugs. But that still means stolas, loona and moxxie would be off worse. Ask yourself this, think of the one point in your life that changed everything for you and ask if you'd change it. Then ask yourself, who would it effect if this event changed?
@@shadowwriter4538 Even so, the positivity Blitz brought tends to be very limited and often overshadowed by his own struggles (even the toxic insecurities that lead to him screwing over so many people); the ones that had problems with Blitz for this - even Loona to the extent of being so protected that it’s suffocating - still deserve better than that imp
@@juliusataturk2421 Some of the problems that Blitz has caused around those he cares about isn't as big as you think. It's symptom of a problem but not the real problem. For instance, Loona would still have anger and trust problems; Stolas would still be in a loveless-miserable marriage; Moxxie would still be imprisoned and probably controlled by his dad again if the broke him out of jail; Verosika would still have a big drinking problem and there is signs that she has a similar problem as Blitz in terms of bringing in people to share her misery when any problems that they may have aren't connected. You may see Blitz as the biggest problem of them all but in reality he's not; he's a problem, not the problem.
I love that theory so much. After all the trauma in the last episode it would be so good for Blitz to see that he didn't ruin the life for everyone in his life. Loona has a happier life, Moxxie and Millie wouldn't have meet, and the same goes for Fizz and Ozzie. We know Blitz is not a bad person deep down. ❤
If Blitz wasn't in the show, then it would be too dark and depressing to watch. I.M.P would never have been formed, M&M wouldn't have happened, Loona would probably be miserable, and Stolas would be trapped in a miserable and abusive marriage. On a side note, I have a theory that Tilla, Blitz's mother, was a succubus or part succubus. Her horns, for example, are more like the horns seen on succubi/incubi, and she's taller than imps, and her face shape is not like the imps' either, which would explain why Blitz is taller and bigger than most other imps and would explain how he seduced Stolas. This would also explain why Barbie Wire was able to get an Asmodean Crystal. As for Striker, the current working theory is that he's an imp-rattlesnake demon hybrid, hence why he's taller and stronger than full-blooded imps.
The point is that Blitz needs to grow up and realize that people love him more than he loves himself, and that's a feeling that counts for him and the people around him. He needs love and respect for his loved ones are necessary for him to grow.
THIS!! This is a finale theory I can get on board with. Blitzø realizing that while the lives of M&M, Loona, Stolas, Octavia, Fizz, and Barbie aren't really THAT great, they would have been the best case scenario compared to their lives in a world where he never existed. This is pretty much what Blitzø needs to realize that his absence would have caused MORE trouble than he could EVER unintentionally create.
You know. There's a fan comic where stolas tells blitz what it would have been if he didn't exist and in the end, it's revealed that he was telling this because blitz was unconscious in a hospital and hasn't woken up yet. So, stolas was begging him to wake up.
@@sskklover69 yeah, i know😩. RU-vid has become such a b***h. They even erased a congratulation type of comment i wrote to a youtuber for no other reason than that it had a gif about heath ledger's joker clapping.
I believe we are. Vivzie confirmed that sometime soon, we are seeing 6 of the 7 sins together, and possibly all 7 one day, if A24 allows, which she thinks they will.
I can't believe we still have 2 more seasons and after S2 30 episodes. So excited to see what will follow and to see more side characters getting spotlight. We won't have to say goodbye to Helluva Boss in the near future 😅
Someone did a comic where Loona finds out what happened at the Halloween party and she ripped up her Verosika shirt because Blitz was crying and she was pretty much giving a hug to Blitz and acting like a daughter.
Loona's life turning out crap without Blitz is pretty much a given. I would imagine that Moxie would be in a similar predicament, as joining Blitz was effectively his way out from under his father's thumb. Stolas would likely be stuck in a loveless marriage. Hard to say how Verosica and the rest would turn out.
I always felt those types of stories were always a bit unrealistic, i mean, if one person stops existing then everything around will be different, yeah, but that doesn't mean everything will be worse, some things might be worse, some might be better, i know the whole point it to say that one's life is important so they usually only focus on the bad things tho, so i wonder if the show might do a twist and show a lot of characters with better lives rather than worse ones
I think it would be cool if Collin was the one to give blitzø the vision, to keep with the angel theme of the movie I know he most likely doesn’t have that power and doesn’t have a reason to help blitzø (yet) but it’s still a fun scenario
Alternatively it could be a parody of A Christmas Carol. One where we see a scene from Blitz’s past that helps explain why he’s so afraid of being loved, a scene from the present of a situation that Blitz could solve by embracing love, possibly involving Stolas being taken prisoner by Andrealphus, and then a vision of what would happen in the future if he doesn’t intervene.
I feel like season 2 will end on a cliff-hanger like season 1 but, similar to season 1, also feel pretty conclusive for the season. I could definitely see Blitzo reflecting on how he’s changed people’s lives as a good way to hype up season three and also conclude season 2’s whole Blitzo x Stolas focused plot
Truthfully, at this point I'm just hoping that the main cast; Blitz, Moxxie, Millie, Loona, Stolas, Octavia, and the rest; will find some kind of peace and happiness by the end of Season 2. They all've been through enough pain and misery and although they do live in Hell they absolutely deserve a happy ending.
Honestly if Blitz didn't exist then his mother wouldn't have died and the accident wouldn't have happened and she would still be with her awful husband if all of that never happened. Good theory but I think that everyone's lives would be significantly different for the good or the bad if Blitz just didn't exist
If blitz didn’t exist then: 1. Stolas would’ve probably died at the harvest moon festival 2.loona would be dead/euthanized by the pound 3.all blitz’s exes would’ve never bonded over their common hatred 4.no MoxxiexMillie 5.moxxie might still be in prison im pretty sure blitz busted them both out 6. Fizz wouldn’t have met ozzie
I'm going to be on it when it comes to blitz I could see him having a parody of A Christmas Carol. To help him realize what is going to happen if he doesn't change his behavior
Eh it's still pretty Christmas Carol like just only focuses on a what if timeline instead of the future shown to scrooge by the third spirit @@milkflavored
Oh no. A world without Blitz could be bad. If Blitz never existed then Moxxie would never have met Millie which means he'll still be in jail and had to deal with Crimson forever, Fizzarolli would have never met Ozzie if it weren't for Blitz, Verosika wouldn't have been famous, Loona would still be in the pound, Stolas would still have a miserable life with Paimon and Stella if Blitz is never around, and worse of all I.M.P. would never have happened. So to add all of this up, even though Blitz did lots of bad things, he's still willing to be there for his friends and make their lives better, well almost better.😨😬
Wouldn’t Loona be on the streets or dead due to being put down? I thought it was implied hellhounds get kicked out of the pound or put down upon turning 18?
@@e-122psi3 the theory is probably isn’t true but it goes she’s scared of needles because she saw other hellhounds “leave to get shots” and never come back(put down)
@@e-122psi3 It's a theory. Loona said that she was going to be let out at 18 had Blitz not adopted her in season 1 episode 3. And the Hellhound Adoption lady implied that Loona wasn't going to amount to anything much, which implies she has a future but not a good one; she probably implied homelessness.
@@shadowwriter4538 True, but Loona would be liable to hide the severity of her situation so Blitzo didn't think she owed him something that significant. It's not confirmed of course, though it wouldn't surprise if they pulled such a gutpunch if they did this storyline given the Hellaverse's usual raw storytelling. We need a Harry Bailey for the full parody after all. :P
I mean I did ask vizziepop a lot of questions about the show and things that could and could not happen recently. Take a look of what I made. Vizziepop Questions for an Idea in the future: Now I would like to ask the questions: 1. Will there be a War between Humans, Angels, and Demons. H.A.D. For short (Get it HAD)? 2. Is Blitz the cause of many situations worst? 3. Are There laws in Hell to maintain Balance? 4. Will we see Hell Police officers in the future? 5. How can Sinners enter the ring where Blitz is even though they are separate? 6. Blitz’s Business if he kills a target that did nothing wrong, would that also mean a one way ticket to Heaven? 7. When could we see God? 8. Is Heaven Corrupted? 9. Does Hell have to be Hell. For the Truth with everyone, it does not have to be? 10. Why Create more Swearing and scenes that would cringe? 11. Are you aware to some channels and reviews about the episodes from each release? 12. Why Does Blitz, Moxxie, and Millie not have Human Disguises. Would they get in trouble for that for exposing Hell? 13. Can a Sinner Kill a Demon or Imp. What will happen, if they do? 14. Will one of the characters die to which one of them, is a bad person? 15. Can Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss be connected, a crossover, and in the same universe? 16. Are there Worlds besides Hell and Heaven in different Cultures or Countries. Greece, Mexico, Asia, Europe, and other Mythologies existing. Lord Hades, and Zeus? 17. Will there be a court room or judgment against our characters? 18. Are Characters having an Identity Crisis? That is all the questions, for now
Alternate universe Stolas could be a great way for them to show off the original Stolas's character. Stolas's character/personality was changed for the relationship with Blitz. It would be so cool to see a more inherently evil Stolas, grown completely through isolation and duty, never having had that friend.
If Blitz can have such a thought about the world without him, is it possible for him to think of the world where things in the past went differently somehow made his life better? I based this idea from the concept of if the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth still existed, the world in nowadays shall ultimately be a better place.
Well what if there is about to be a shooting star about to approach for Blitz to make a wish, then he'll see the whole past different and Fizz w/ his mother or living in the orphanage, not to mention Loon as a little kid. Plus things hardly even worse to anyone's life.
So If Blitz was never born: 1. Everyones lives would feel better 2. Loona would die at the age 18 with a lethal ejection. 3. Never meet Moxxie cause he is still in jail. 4. Never Meet Millie, therefore Moxxie and Millie Never met. 5. Lot of people or the targets would survive. 6. The circus would never burn down 7. Fizz would be Stolas friend. 8. Fizz never meet asmodeus 9. Blitz Target Business would never exist 10. Hell would never be discovered by Humans or Dhorks. 11. Never meet Verozica 12. Striker would have assassinated Stolas 13. Octovia would have Stolas fortune. 14. Asmodeus would kill the stalker 15. The cherubs would succeed and never be banished from heaven. 16. Queen Bee would not have met Loona since she died. Well that is it for my What If Possibilities.
New Update for What If: Even some help with ghassenmraihi So If Blitz was never born: A New Idea 1. Everyones lives would feel better 2. Loona would die at the age 18 with a lethal ejection. 3. Never meet Moxxie cause he is still in jail. 4. Never Meet Millie, therefore Moxxie and Millie Never met. 5. Lot of people or the targets would survive. 6. The circus would never burn down 7. Fizz would be Stolas friend. 8. Fizz never meet asmodeus 9. Blitz Target Business would never exist 10. Hell would never be discovered by Humans or Dhorks. 11. Never meet Verozica 12. Striker would have assassinated Stolas 13. Octovia would have Stolas fortune. 14. Asmodeus would kill the stalker 15. The cherubs would succeed and never be banished from heaven. 16. Queen Bee would not have met Loona since she died. 17. Stella would not try to hire the assassin Stryker on Stolas Well that is it for my What If Possibilities. 18. Chaz would of been still alive. 19. The Annoying Kid from Pilot still alive. 20. Vortex never meet Loona cause she died 21. Barbie Wire would be a only child 22. All the Dhorks would of Survived
It just occurred to me that I’m so much like Blitzo that 3 hours ago I was napping on the couch while my adopted dog was sleeping on the bed. And it is _not_ the first time. Wanna guess my dogs’ name? Millie. It’s Millie.
There definitely feel like a lot of hints to 'what if' throughout the show, especially with how much backstory and intertwining there is with the character's timelines. Bltizo is shrewdly vital to a lot of people's outcomes both negatively and positively. I think the biggest red light is that conversation between Fizz and Ozzie, where Fizz explains so vividly he feels the string of events built him and made his current future, just I think he made a good swing there and missed. He thought it was all about Mammon shaping him into something meaningful, when it's much more complicated snowball effect that made him what he is today.
Having that rush is a world without you. And you see it past events. It's causing the people that you love. Living everyday life and they will never happen if you're there. Imagine that and how to affect the reality you have is possibilities different realities as for blitzo seeing himself by visiting spirit form past,past future just the Christmas carol Scrooge like forgiveness, love yourself can give u hope the chance u needed from your past misakes and regards give your more happiness
Even though I do like hearing about different theories whether they turn out to be true or not I just hope whatever direction they decide to take the show in turns out to be entertaining and we get to find out if the Stolas x Blitzo ship truly is dead in the show or not.
I LOVE the idea of seeing a potential reality where Stolas goes bad because he never meets Blitzo. Especially since Blitzos biggest issue right now is hating himself so much he pushes everyone away, seeing how he positively impacts people might be what he needs to see himself as a worth while person.
It would be genuinely fascinating to see this played out. Because yeah, as much of a headache as Blitzø is for everyone in his life, most of them have it pretty good purely because they met him - not because he went out of his way to be kind or helpful (in fact, it's the exact opposite in some cases), but just because he was there. And thinking about that also really gets you thinking about what a powerful ripple effect it would have for anyone who exists to have just not existed, too, which is why that story is so beloved. While I can't say I actively want to see this (it might put too much of a strain on my emotions), it would definitely be a great premise for an episode objectively.
There's a fan comic out there that does this concept. Blitz sees stolas in a life where he never meets Blitz, and because of that he never had and good memories to hold on to in his abusive life, he eventually gave up on everything and locked himself away forcing Octavia to do his job for the Ars Goetia continuing the cycle. Veronica was a low teir celebrity that didn't blow up in popularity until after blitz's break up, so without blitz, she started to lose popularity, fell into addiction and after getting out of rehab she had nothing and signed a contract with Valentino like angel dust has.(yes that is not liking in the show but that's what happened in the fan comic) Fizz didn't have a friend in the Circus, so the pressure keeped build like what happened in the mammon episode then he fall during a performance on the high wire losing his arms, legs and horns and instead of getting healed like in canon blitz's dad just made fizz a part of a freak show with fizz's life now being trapped getting laughed at for the rest of his life. Moxie never meet blitz in prison so Moxie become his father to survive become a new mob boss and hunted his father down 1 member at a time and then went after Chaz who finding out Crimson's gang is being hunted fled to wrath finding work on millie's family farm only for this moxie to find him grab him and millie goes to save him only for moxie and millie to kill each other. And Luna aged out of the centre she was at but became of her anger they couldn't let her go and be destructive so they euthanized her.
6:35 oh, seeing M&M and Lona in tihs state would be terrible... I hope your predictions will become reality. It would be a while since we had seriosly dark episode like s2ep3
Imagine a scene where Blitz goes to envy to try to work out a deal with Crimson and comes across who he assumes is Crimson and says something like "ahh Crimson, you unbearable twat" and gets "Crimsons my father, I'm Moxxie and I'm in charge of this family"
I loved the way you created this therioe makes a lot of sense... And if that ends up has the season 2 finale I don't care cause haves a lot of potential and will help closing Blitz's development or character arc, and seeing this alternative reality would be interesting. In my opinion while he sees his friends lifes without his influence Blitzø will slowly realize they needed him, but... The point his that he won't still believe that Stolas needs him in his life, that's why I wanted to Stolas be the last one Blitzø's visits (or his mother like you said Dipka) and like its confirmed that "owls love once" Stolas how meeting Blitzø at the first time in this reality, and Blitzø noticing him cleary crushing on him like he did when they were kids in our reality, will be the ultimate prove to Blitzø (AkA if Blitzø can interact with them like in the movie) Now this is my desire has a Stolitz fan ❤️💙 in the end of the episode somehow have that classic dinner in family that all does important people are together, and Blitzø ask Stolas to talk in private and telling his feelings for him (and/yess/maybe they kiss)
I feel like the Goetia and Sins courtroom scene will be a B plot to the main focus of the episode, being Blitzo seeing what a world without him would look like. I also predict that the episode will be the longest, being 35-40 minutes.
That would be a huge disaster if Blitz wasn't born, imagine how horrible lives Moxxie, Millie, Loona, Stolas and the others will have if Blitz didn't exist.
Personally, in my mind the perfect place for him to find out what everyone's lives would be like without him in it would take place at the Hazbin hotel. Charlie and the residents could let Blitz see all the impacts (good and bad) that would not happen if he was not around. Everything you said in the video makes sense. Loona may be a angsty teen/young adult but she still cares for people. I hate to imagine what her life would be like without her adoptive father in it. Millie and Moxxie may be unhappy in that timeline (perhaps even miserable) but Loona would be a monster in all sense of the word. Not to mention she might not be alive given the Hellbies virus that happens in the Hellhound population (Blitz was the one who made her get the shot, despite her fear of needles).
The its a wonderful life scenario is neat theory. I like that it also opens up the opportunity for characters that we haven't seen a while to come back. We could see Paimon again when we see what Stolas's life would be like without ever having met Blitzo. We could also see Chaz when seeing what either Moxxie or Millies life is like. Perhaps Moxxie ends up marrying Chaz. There was a lot of Chaz merch in the recent drop despite him being in only one episode and you know dead.
Blitzo could potentially be shown this vision of an alternate universe by Krampus. In ancient livestream lore from the Mesozoic time period, Vivziepop mentioned how Krampus is a figure in Hell and is their version of Santa
Maybe it's because we don't know much about her, other than her being a drunk, but I'm surprised Verosika is not mentioned in this conversation. Are we assuming that her life would be better without Blitz or would she still be in the same place? Part of me thinks that her partying days were unhealthy and Blitz somehow became a silver lining in that before he broke up with her. Chances are in that scenario she might have been picked up by someone else similar to Blitz or her and probably gone through a similar heartbreak; the individual doesn't have to have the same self loathing as Blitz but it could be something that would prevent them from connecting with Verosika. And, as much as I find the Anti Blitzo party to be very immature, petty, and downright pathetic that it being called a place to help people is stupid, I bet there are some people who did make connections because of their shared dislike or hatred of Blitz that will never get together at all if any genuine connections were ever made there. Lastly, if somehow Verosika used her bad break up in any way to advance her stardom then chances are without that experience then chances are her fame would not reach the height that it is right now.
Well as cool as this plot would be, I saw some storyboard leaks for Sinsmas and it was nothing like this. I only watched a minute of it to avoid spoilers, but it was actually a longer video. Basically just a ton of Stolas and Octavia dialogue.
As Morty once said to Summer before she decided to run away "Nobody exists on purpose, Nobody nobody belongs anywhere we're all gonna die one day, come watch tv with me" thats what i believe for Blitzø
If it does go the way Of It’s A Wonderful Life, Fizz wouldn’t be scared and would still be in the circus with Barbie and the rest of the Buckso family, Moxxie would either be in prison in Greed or worse he could’ve become the cold-blooded son that his father would’ve wanted, Millie wouldn’t know them and could’ve ended-up as hired muscle or even gone back to Wrath, and Loona just might be dead. Verosika probably wouldn’t be a pop-star and would’ve likely had a normal life which means that Vortex would’ve either found employment elsewhere or might’ve been put to sleep too which could mean that he never got involved with Queen Bee and as for Stolas it could go one of two ways: One he could prove to be just as much of a threat as Stella which could in a weird way make them happy and possibly could give Octavia the happy home-life she desires or two, he could be even worse than her and he could be the domineering one thus making even Stella (and possibly Octavia) fear him. Ozzie wouldn’t know Blitz or the rest of IMP and Striker wouldn’t be employed by Stella and might even be the number one hit Imp in All Of Hell. But that’s if the episode take The It’s A Wonderfull Life route. As for my impossible gift-wish, I would like a baby giraffe.
I think Blitzo having a wonderful parody would work for what happened after apology tour but I think sinsmas being about the seven deadly sins and the Ars Goetia is a great idea and I want toothpaste 😅
Think that Stolas without knowing Blitz as a kid, just might not have survived Stella and the SA. He seems to have drawn alot of how he chose to parent from that day at the circus and the playdate after. Choosing not to be like his dad. In the really timeline he was singing lullabys about not sure if he'd make it till she grown, and 'do it for egg' motivation posters to keep going. Without that bright spot I don't think he'd make it
Prepare for Strikerville, the newly managed Pride Ring which has been abstinent of all sex things for twenty years. Which you know, would COMPLETELY ruin Ozzie's life. :P
If Blitz wasn't around, Stolas wouldn't have found his courage to stand up to his wife and find happiness meaning he would still be miserable and sad. Fizz would not have a partner and would have to do his act alone, would still be single, but would still be successful while Cash keeps Fizz tired down like Mammon , but would treat him as was implied. Moxxie would be the same as Stolas and millie would most likely continue in the war/farm. Striker have no reason to kill Stolas unless otherwise Stella uses her husband like a golddigger which seems likely. Lonna would most likely commit suicide due to depression or homeless on the streets. In the end though, Blitz would see Stolas and tried to reach out to him, but since he's a ghost, he can't.
Even the most average person can cause a great impact to those around them in their wake. Even the smallest, most insignificant actions can cause a massive ripple effect that can change many lives. So the answer is: no, Blitzø’s existence does matter in the grand scheme of things.
My theory is that mamon and ardiophis will team on a legal battle against Stolas and Fizz with IMP being their middle man to take them down. I won’t doubt that Blitz would think about how the lives of others would be like if he wasn’t born but I think it would be done through memory manipulation. Like how Stolas is a young kid again and that Blitz has his braces back.
