Given the safety record of Qantas, the domestic renewal program had Boeing desperately trying to sign them on for 737-Max - those inside say Boeing was offering a 2 for 1 - and still Qantas chose Airbus. Says a lot, don’t you think.
Don't really think it has anything to do with safety. Seeing as they specifically chose the XLR variant of the A321, Qantas likely wants the operational flexibility the XLR's additional range over the MAX 10 brings. The A220 has no competitor from Boeing either.
Not really. They already have A320s at Jetstar. Getting them for mainline as well allows them to save costs with fewer aircraft types within the group and allows them to more easily transfer aircraft as needed around the group.
The better economics of the A220 kind of made it a no-brainer for Qantas. They look to the future and they're not short of money, Qantas is a full-fare carrier and they also listen to their customers, an East-West flight in Australia can last for over 4 hours, so comfort and baggage capacity will tilt things away from any 737.
I fly QANTAS regularly on the 737 and although they are still nice aircraft they are getting old and I do believe airbus just offers a more versatile range for fleet renewal and expansion. Glad to see QANTAS ordering more of their aircraft.
The 717 is a pain. I flew a 737 from Perth to Brisbane and then had to catch a 717 to my final destination. My medium size carry-on bag wouldn't fit into the tiny lockers, so it had to go in the cargo hold.
The first batch of Qantas 737-800s were meant for American Airlines. Qantas had to rapidly expand due to the collapse of Ansett on September 12 2001, and American didn't want their ordered aircraft with the downturn in US flying after September 11 2001. Qantas used to operate A330-200s between Auckland and Los Angeles prior to their pulling out of that route 10 years ago.
@8:58 - "An order placed in 2020" ? Really? Was that mean to say "an order placed in 2000" ... as that was the date they placed the first order for the A380s.
@@0HOON0 and hate to include the current delays in the 787 and 777x program. They just can’t get it right!!! 797nma should be in the design faze, yet the cutting cost and not designing a clean sheet for the 737 is now showing cost cutting has not been fruitful for Boeing
QantasLink is a mess of different aircraft. It must be a maintenance and training nightmare, and I think it drives up cost to the consumer too. They really need to get that rationalised, and I look forward to the ideal A220-300. That plane can replace the whole menagerie. I absolutely love what Bombardier did with that plane.
I dunno, I think that the 220s could either head to QF or QFLink. The A220 isn't *small*, and it's bigger than the E190s QF are leasing as a stopgap. I think we could even see international routes out of western/central ports (which serve a smaller market) like my home city Perth, or Adelaide.
@@nickel_las The A220 can reach any part of Australia from any part of Australia. I'm also from Perth, and I'd love to do the A220, say within our state. But I don't complain about the A320 going interstate, it's a good plane.
@@k9killer221 Yeah, I think it's perfect for flights from, say, here in Perth up to Broome. But it's arguably also perfect for flights to Kuala Lumpur, for example, or Jakarta - a short(-ish), thin route. Overall, I'm really excited for the mid-term future of Western Australian aviation, because it's got a lot in store!
QantasLink is actually a collection of regional airlines which are (in most cases) wholly owned subsidiaries of Qantas. The ex-JQ A320s and F100s are operated by Network Aviation, with the A320s mainly used for mining charter services. The smaller Dash 8-200s and Dash 8-300s are operated by Eastern Australia Airlines and the larger Dash 8-400s by Sunstate Airlines. The E190s are under a lease agreement operated by Alliance Airlines. The 717s are operated by National Jet Systems. Only the 717s have been flagged for replacement at this time. The 130-160 seat A220-300 seems about right to replace the 110-125 seat 717s, but the 108-133 seat A220-100 seems a bit too large to replace the 36-74 seat Dash 8s.
Qantas is such an excellent airline in the sky. It was surprising to remember that British Airways and Qantas have both sacrifice aka retired there 747s for the A380 in 2020 and i think that was quite sad but good move at the same time despite the facts that the popularity of the 747 fan lovers is higher than the A380. By the time both carriers retired there Queen's back in 2020, the A380 fan lovers popularity may have been increased back in 2021 until now by at least 10-15%.
@@altacalifornia2580 Lufthansa has the 747-8, so they were much newer and more efficient than the Qantas 747-400. I loved my flight from Japan to Sydney on the 747-400 but they were long in the tooth. Much noisier than the A380.
Unrelated but I could see quite a bit of airbus activity in the sky over western Europe on the flight radar 24 app yesterday. Belugas flying from Madrid and I think it was Hamburg as an example. There was a smaller airbus cargo plane as well. There was an A320 neo on a test flight. There was also an A350 on a test flight but the significant thing about that was that it was labelled Airbus on the map but the photos showed it in full Qatar Airways livery. Interesting, given the situation between Qatar Airways and Airbus at the moment.
T_T They were planned to be retired at the end of 2020. They left the fleet 6 months early. Which leaves the crappy 2 class A330s to be used for Tokyo once Japan reopens to tourists and Qantas resumes flights to Japan.
I think the A380's days are numbered with an A350 -1000 order . I used to think that Qantas would take the 787-8 aircraft off Jetstar since they are getting A321XLRs and integrate them into their existing 787 fleet but it rather looks like Mr Joyce has fallen in love with Airbus . Qantas do have a history of integrating Jetstar aircraft . The A330-200s spent some time at Jetstar I think and the 717s had time with Jetstar as well .
The quality standards on Qantas needs to be improved as very quickly to. You cannot have cabin staff who are very uncomfortable on board the aircraft providing a quality service to customers. Very disappointing situation
It's a bit of a shame to see the B-717 fleet coming to an end but they are getting old now. It will be interesting to see how Qantas progresses with it's new fleet of Airbus aircraft.
Hello thanx for the content as always Can u please make a video on the specifics Required by Boeing certification of its planes and its delaying plane delivery across the Aviation industry
Qantas are only bringing back 10 of the A380 into service, which will be by early 2023. These 10 A380 will have had a full interior refurbishment. I presume that the other 2 A380 will be kept for spare parts, or sold. Qantas will fly their A380 for approx another 10 years, and then retire them. As per other comments, Qantas have just announced that Project Sunrise will commence as of late 2025. Direct flights from - Sydney to NYC Sydney to London Melbourne to NYC Melbourne to London And other routes. Qantas just confirmed an order for 12, A350 1000 that will have an extra capacity fuel tank, for these 18 to 20 hour flights. ✈️ 💺
I always wanted to know 1. Fuel consumption syd-lhr nonstop 2. Fuel consumption syd-lhr midway fuel stop Must cost a fortune to carry fuel for the 2nd half of the trip when you can carry half the fuel load then refuel for the 2nd half of the flight. Ok landing, and then returning to 30,000 feet must cost, but does it cost more fuel than it costs to carry 50% too much fuel for the first half?
Yep, two hops is considerably more fuel efficient. The non-stop flights will be mainly pitched at business rather than leisure travellers, because business travel is much more time sensitive and much less price sensitive than leisure travel. However with people having discovered how much work can be done from home it is quite likely that business travel will never recover as strongly from the pandemic as leisure travel has, so I think Qantas HAS to be seriously reconsidering the idea.
`4:25 Sigh. Yet another example of Flight Attendants - who are SAFETY Officers - being treated like sh*t by the very, very "important" (therefore overpaid) 'management'. Jeez.
wonder, the Australian full service flag carrier never operated the B737-900 ER on their medium haul international & domestic routes . . . B787-9 or A350-900 wide body jets will eventually replace the A330-200 & A330-300 . . . Qantas seriously needs to restructure their international long haul services asap . . . Qantas cancelling brand new ordered jets at this rate point begs you to think the cancelled jets is a result of trying to mitigate their available working capital, so as not to go bankrupt . . . afterall it's the flag carrier of Australia . . .
Good to mention the controversy with the A330 blanket fort situation... it's yet another example of Qantas employing poor labour practices to enforce poor working conditions. Their Australian based crew refused to fly without either proper rest areas or a proper rest day either side of flying. Hardly unreasonable asks given the length of these flights. But rather than do the bare minimum to look after their employees & their wellbeing, they simply exploit their New Zealand workforce further, who already only exist so Qantas can take advantage of NZ's weaker labour laws :( love Qantas, but the way they treat their people truly sucks.
Ethics aside, the FAs are perfectly correct that this was a major safety issue and it was really dumb business practice on Joyce's part to play hardball over it - the risk of catastrophic damage to the brand's famous safety image was real.
The fleet is good but I think they shouldn't have taken the A380s. They just cost too much money to buy and operate and they should've gone for aircraft like the A350, A330neo, 787 or 777
Further to what xParallax said, the A380 was the solution to slot constraints at LHR and to range limitations for fully laden trans-Pacific flights MEL-LAX (which the 747-438ER was commissioned to address).
Does this channel publish any positive stories about Boeing? Not just one or two but more regular stories to give a view of both the ups and downs at Boeing.
As a regular traveler I'm avoiding Qantas as much as i can. Never arrive on time, treating passengers with contempt, ugly rude cabin crews. And yes, im an aussie.
No Australian airline arrives on time. Airports aren’t big enough, especially Sydney, which handles a constant stream of domestic flights because Qantas, Virgin Australia, Rex and Pelican all operate a majority of their services to and from Sydney. Not to mention the morning international departure rush hour. I’m not defending Qantas, because I think they are not the nicest airline to fly on, that goes to Emirates for sure, but the cabin crew are so much better than Virgin Australia. However, Qantas does seem to lack when it comes to the entertainment in flight, and how fucking cramped their A330’s are. Was on a full flight from Auckland to Sydney on a yet-to-be refurbished A332. Cramped and uncomfortable, not to mention how loud and annoying the A330 is in general.
You right. I was a regular traveler on the Auckland route on my way to New Plymouth where i was maintaining Methanex business and it wasnt happy trips especially when you get a seat next to 400 pound maori dude. It sucked big time!
They pulled the 747s out of the US routes before 2019. They will resume flying to SFO with 787s over the next year, starting with SYD, then extending to flights from BNE and MEL later.
1:18 Qantas doesn't own national jet systems, national jet has been owned by advent investment firms, until its recent purchase by Regional Express for 38 million. Qantas has previously done the maintenance for QLink Boeing 717s out of its perth hangar, but national jet has been flying in Cobham colors for many years.