As an American, everything I know about New Zealand is from Lord of the Rings and this channel. So I'm assuming that your entire country consists of fantastic landscapes where magical creatures guard abandoned earthmoving equipment.
I've got some Marino wool from there! wow it looks so nice, -30c weather here the last week, dreaming of tropical Heavy equipment revives that are this easy.
They say, on really still nights in NZ, you can hear abandoned equipment creeping closer to Marty in the hope he will find them. (which we all know, eventually, he will)
Marty is like the (not very) dark lord in his tower, all the lost machines are drawn to him. All their thought is bent on it. They are one, the machines, and Marty. Once they are reunited he will have dominion over all the dirt roads in the land.
I used to operate its big brother the 7B. Great machine but a bastard when its bogged as you need two pairs of hands to get it out because there are no foot pedals for the tracks. When you've got the hydraulic pump sorted which might just need filters, i would pull the boom in to its shortest position and move the stick to its power position, tearout force will be massive. To get the Boom cylinders out, stretch the arm out at full reach with the bucket crowded in, knock the boom pins out, start the machine and pull the stick in. The Boom will go up leaving the cylinders behind. Great find.
Yes,yes! Everyone loves New Zealand but I enjoy Marty’s wide variety of projects and the length to which he will go to accomplish his goals. And my favorite thing is he never uses foul language!✌️
How that started, ran done all that work and didn't blow a coolant, fuel or hydraulic hose is beyond belief. Great job boys a pleasure to watch the bones being dug up and walking again..
Sometimes these things just want to live... Also helps that a lot of the hoses are concealed pretty well from the elements, and it looks to be either relatively low hour or had very good care in it's past.
I think there is air in the hydraulic system. I repair harvesters and forwarders and the same sound your machine is doing is when pump is getting air with oil. Try to change hydraulic fluid and change filters if you can get those. Usually I hear this sound when I change hydraulic pump and first minute or so its making same sound. Air Bubbles in the pump is same like if you will put sand in it. It would fuck up the pump so fast. But similar sound can do lot of others things and it might be also normal for this Machine. Hope you will figure it out. Sorry for my bag English and Cheers from Czech republic.
I really cannot explain how & why watching 2 dudes troubleshoot an old piece of machine is SOOOO friggin entertaining… Can’t say but man, I’m just locked on that screen the whole 28:39 minutes! As usual : very interesting. Thanks!
That machine looks great for its age . I posted your video on the JCB company page . I have worked on 5 C's , but not a 6 . Sounds like you got air in the hydraulics or a pump worn /valve issue. That is a bloody good find there .
I was going to say the same sort of thing. My guess would be water in the hydraulic system. It's been sitting for so long water would have found its way in or could be low even know they said it's got hydraulic oil doesn't mean it's enough
If it has condensed water in the hydraulic oil, it will soon turn to a milky fluid, as the pump mixes it up quickly. This should evaporate after an 8 hour day when the temperature of the oil in the tank gets hot.. My bet when I heard the pump noise ( possible cavitation.?) was that the oil level was low, or the suction filter is blocked. For what you paid for it, it is a bargain. Even if you spend lots on re-bushing the pins, it will still be a bargain. btw... Aren't you in the same country as Cutting Edge Engineering, they could help a lot.
This was a great video. Nothing like seeing an older machine brought back to life. It would be wonderful if you would do a follow up video on it. And if you did Marty, please let me know because I would like to watch it.
It seems like New Zealand is littered with old machinery that just needs a bit of know how to get going ! I couldn't believe you got it started after tightening a couple of connectors and throwing a pair of batteries on it and it was able to do half a days work after having some fresh oil and a bit of grease added !
I completely agree it's amazing how many pieces of big machinery are just lying around out in the jungle if that's what it's called in New Zealand. You're not dealing with a lot of surface area for these things to go missing
@@silasmarner7586 There is a *lot* of surface area. NZ is a young landmass that is being pushed up at the junction of tectonic plates. It is an active and relatively uneroded landscape. There is a lot of land that is perfectly fertile but is too rugged to even farm sheep. These well used diggers were being used to cut access tracks in order to develop rugged marginal land for agriculture. When they broke down it wasn’t worth the hassle of recovering them, and you couldn’t get a hauler anywhere near it anyway. There is a reason that NZers developed schemes like netting deer from helicopters, as vehicle access to round them up was impossible.
@@ianc4901 It is truly mad stuff. Deer were introduced for hunting in the colonial days but subsequently became feral pests in predator free NZ. In the 2nd half of the 20th C, the international market for venison exploded so plans were made to get deer from the bush to market, preferably via farms. It was lucrative enough for helicopters to become the vehicle of choice. The footage is some of the wildest helicopter flying ever recorded. NZ is still a world leader in tranquilliser dart systems too, through a company called paxarms. If you need to sedate any kind of beast or biopsy a whale, they are the people to call.
Someones clearly had a crack at it before they just didnt have the ol "marty" touch..... i just love your work An age old testament to the saying "They dont die they just go nanai"s (sleep) And you my man are the one to wake them up
Here in America, it'd be blown up, leakin hydraulic fluid from every possible place, glass busted out. Still be north of 10 thousand... "I know what I got".
Gorgeous machine Marty. Your mate did well on that. Reckon it won't take heaps to get it into being a reliable price of equipment. JCB's have good reps and a long history. God that boom looks HUGE compared to the body in terms of reach. Love the style. Looks like something Matchbox woulda made for me to play with when was young (maybe they did!). I wish we had more JCB here in Canada. Way to help your mate out Marty. Nice to see you both excited!
I have JCB JS240 in Australia. My only issue is that they seem to rust pretty quick. The stop solenoid arm broke on my friends snd not long after mine broke too so this was issue too. Other than that, mine going strong.
Oh ! 6D I still have the scars on my knuckles from those (horrible) cable operated levers 😣 great machine though, moved muck, put in drainage, dug ditches, and cut roads with it in the late 70’s, the 6.354 dropped a valve, I peened over the damaged piston , recut valve seat, new valve, gasket and she ran for a few more years , you could change the bucket back to front too,
I find your channel fascinating. It’s filling in the hands-on knowledge I’m lacking. Just a funny side note. I always watch with closed captioning on, which is not from you, but generated by my tv. And it interprets the whining of gears and engines as [Music], and general racket like grading or sometimes an engine, as [Applause]. Haha! Absolutely appropriate.
A missed bad ground has been the demise of many a good machine. Good catch on that. I've seen lights, gauges, switches act confused where the ground is gone or partial. What a great find.
Another interesting find... Low on creature-comforts but it does have ac lol... We don't see many JCB excavators here in the US (compared to Cat, Deere, Komatsu, Case, etc.) though they're still around for the smaller stuff in decent numbers. Hauled a brand new little backhoe to a small railroad outfit in Texas a few years ago and it's the only JCB I've ever operated. The twin track controls look like they could be a potential workout when working with the arm but I guess it's not too much worse than the old dozers. Thanks for taking us along again.
I just watched an American version of your videos. The Americans always seem to want to be loud and obnoxious but Marty, you could teach them something. You commentary is just as you see it, quiet and factual.. There is a fishing show on Australian television and when these guys hook something they go loud and obnoxious, maybe to add sound and excitement to their broadcast but I was taught when you go fishing you be as quiet as possible. Keep up your commentary and you programs .. I really enjoy them.
Awesome! Another successful recovery :) There's a local excavator that I have been thinking about saving. It's from the late 60's. I talked to the owner of the property it's located on about 6 years ago, but I didn't have the money at the time. Now I DO have the money, but I can't get in contact with him. Very frustrating. But I will keep persevering! :)
Dug out of the bush, brought back to mechanical life nearly effortless, dug out pieces of her way on the go to be transported and did not blow a hose, pipe or seal ..... even the smokescreen thinned considerably over the work she did. Now that is a catch for sure, and a steal for that price, even with some more work to do to hydraulics and profound maintenance/rebuild. You could easily rake back in that money with one officially payed job taking a full tank of diesel.
Another good recovery of a machine nearly pensioned off before its time. A great, relaxing, watch on a day when even opening my eyes felt like going for a marathon run.
They also did a later model called the "Powerslide" where the top of the main boom could moved back and forth on a slide arrangement. Good old machine, looking forward to seeing you look at the hydraulics. The drain/fill plugs are BSPT (British standard pipe thread) they come in taper and parallel versions and are still readily available . HTH. Cheers.
Small addition to this; the designation 'BSPT' is short for 'British Standard Pipe Taper', not thread. BSPT is probably the most common for water pipes, etc. (at least many places in Europe) to make a conical metal-on-metal seal with a bit of sealant only). This is important since, as you correctly point out, the other version is BSPP which is 'british standard pipe parallel'. The latter is quite commonly used in hydraulics, if they use face seals, bonded seals or something similar to seal off the thread/fitting. You can screw a male BSPT all the way into a female BSPP thread and a male BSPP partially into a BSPT female, both are wrong though. Commonly for both mismatches you don't want to stand next to the connection when it is fully pressurized!
Powerslide first appeared on the 805B, first ever 360 without a counterweight, JCB mounted the engine, a 6354 Perkins right at the back. Powerslide was revolutionary. I worked on the launch event at Rocester.
Nice to see…brings back good memories for me as I used to work on and maintain a 6D amongst a host of other machines back in the 1970’s👍. The 6D was the most powerful excavator produced by JCB at that time.
iv driven one few years back.1975,on site the windows got smashed in first,your lucky to have glass,was frezzing in winter,winters were more cold back in them days,the heater in it was rubbish.bravo marty..
The styling on 70's plant is fookin lovely, my old gaffa still uses his power slide although it doesn't power slide anymore as it cracked so he welded the slide up.
Those oil drain plugs are likely just a BSP iron plug. Only cost a pound or two, in England. Lots of things use them, industrial engines, pumps, my land Rover etc. etc.
Interesting how things can get confused in how something came to be abandoned, your mate got the story that it would crank and crank but not run but seems it was the other way round & it'd click and click, wouldn't crank but when you got that bolt tightened she was away like she wants to live. Love seeing you bring old dinosaurs like this back from the brink, specially when they come for less than scrap price even when you factor in transporting it home! Thanks for sharing, 73 from the UK
I really appreciate all the trouble you go to bring these videos to RU-vid Marty. Aside from the recording I’m sure you spend hours editing them too. Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you and your family. Cheers. 👍🧑🎄
It’s so cool to see older equipment rescued and be able to put it back in service, it will probably out last a lot of the new stuff that is built today because of all the computers and stuff, I definitely give this a 😁😁👍👍. Cool
Being a huge JCB fan in the UK it was great to see the 6D starting and running if only we had machines in that condition in this country for their age keep up the good work Marty we should export it back to the UK for myself
I live is Staffordshire (home of JCB) and can confirm that Joseph Cyril Bamfords company is a major employer in this county to today. Some of their employees eat at my wife's Buttie Van.
Love your videos mate. Good old kiwi ingenuity. I've been a mechanic coming up 30 years. Definitely sounds like a stuck injector due to water ingress. Easiest way to trace is draw chalk lines on each port of exhaust manifold and then as engine is running the cylinder which isn't firing the chalk line will be left and the firing cylinders will burn off the chalk. It's a great way to test gliw plug operation also. Keep the videos coming marty!
This is an absolute classic, please look after her, I guess there are not many left, looks like 1960's? She is complete and survived very well. Loving this 😍
WOW - Someone gave up on this thing for 2 loose wires? And just $1000? Your friend got a STEAL!!!!! No matter how much he has to do to finish restoring it!
Previous owner might mostly have wanted to find a good home for it. And rural NZ isn't exactly full of rich people in search of equipment, there's a slow retreat off the land and out of agriculture like everywhere else.
Itll be great for soneones small farm but this thing is never going to earn someone money $1000 as is where is is a pretty decent proce for both party's
Britain's model tractors made a version of this. The engine is a perkins 6 cylinder and was used in the massey Ferguson 1200 pivot/ center steered tractor so bits should be easy to get hold of
Looks Like a P 6354 .very good engines been about for years .since the days of the first Q Dodge lorries non turbo ,then several upgrades with different types of turbo over the years . last One I worked on about 20 yrs ago was in a combine .
It's called a thermostart, a coil heats up a valve that allows fuel to drip onto the coil, the diesel then burns creating warm air to aid starting when cold, you could see the flame in some inlet manifolds if you took the air cleaner pipe off, it's not a great flame but it's there, when fitted and working they made a huge difference, from the days before glow plugs 😊.
My guess about the hydraulic noise is that it's a vane pump which may be a bit tired, or the filters are getting blocked, or it's sucking a bit of air into the pump. Maybe all three?? That said, vane pumps tend to be a bit noisy, anyway. But, WOW! What a score!!! Well done!!!
Suction screen heavy old oil and a variable swashplate piston or a vane pump . Possible.Many never clean suction screen on intake in tank. Return filter has nothing to do with noise. I fixed a few older machines no power noise only a clogged intake. Cheers
Great video. I remember back in the 1970's, Leyland Atlantean buses operating in Dublin produced that whine when the power steering was operated. The sharper the turn, the noisier the whine. Problem was caused by air in the hydraulic steering system. Seemingly it entered through worn shaft seals at the Hoburn-Eaton power steering pump which was attached to the outside of the engine block and was exposed to the air.
Hydraulic noise could be a collapsed suction hose on main pump starving the pump for flow, Or, a leak on the suction side sucking air into system, Or simple clogged filters. I would investigate pretty quickly. It could ruin your pump.
I enjoyed the video apart from the bit where you referred to the 6D as 'ancient', they were the machine to have in the 70's here in the UK for heavy work. Made me feel even older than I normally do. When you wanted a big 360 excavator on site you ordered a 6C, bit like ordering a 'hoover' instead of a vacuum cleaner.
Thanks for the late Christmas present Marty. Great to watch. -22c here and the wood stove doing its duty. Hope we get a follow up, as this one appeared too easy (for your skill set) to get in operation.
You have given me flashbacks to the 70’s when I used to drive one of them. I remember I used to hate going to work. I don’t think there was a night I didn’t go home stinking of Diesel or Hydraulic Oil. What a nightmare. 😂🇬🇧
