It is. Here in austria Zwentendorf never got activated. Our gouverment built it but after theymade a referendum and Austrian' oeple voted against it. It was a huge disaster due to immense financial loss. Zwentendorf is 12 km away from my village and is now used for events, tours, civil protection events or for practice for other nuclear power workers from germany.
@@tieralternativ8483 luckily it was cheap. In Finland the OL3 power plant has cost over 10B and the construction of it was 14 years late. It's not owned by state.
Following the 1978 referendum, no commercial nuclear power plant (built for the purpose of producing electricity) ever went into operation in Austria. In 1978, Austria enacted a law prohibiting the construction and operation of fission reactors for electrical power generation - yeah abandoned
Society’s rejection of Nuclear power was a massive mistake, and the environment has payed dearly for it as we continue to rely on fossil fuels for our electricity
Title is misleading. Its a Museum and ive been there as Austrian. And Kreisky wasnt unpopular at all. Most see him as one of the best politicians Austria has seen. Although Zwentendorf is not in Action Austria is surounded by several old reactors in the czech republic and slovakia
Overly dramatic background music as if some catastrophic event took place here. The only catastrophe is the Austrian people’s ignorance on Nuclear power that lead to the 50.5% vote against commissioning the plant.
It's a shame. Austria still heavily relies on nuclear power (wind, water and solar energy indirectly provided by our solar systems fusion reactor) despite that decision. The thing about democracy is, that everybody get's a vote. It doesn't mather wether you've actually studied something, or your job is milking cows, it's one vote. It's austrias fucked up media, that influenced people to vote for something, the simply aren't capable to judge.
@@obsoleteoptics Nothing, but i'd pay less for electricity, if Zwentendorf was running. Why do you assume, that someone has to be corrupt to have a different opinion than you? Maybe they have good reasons for having a different opinion and you just never heard them, because you always scream "you're on their payroll, i won't listen to you" and run off, to pay some scammers money to plant a tree.
@@gehtdianschasau8372 Nah Kernspaltung is nur kurzfristig bzw durch Subventionen billig weil Entsorgung und Endlagerung ned im Strompreis enthalten san sondern von Steuern zoit wern. Besser wir scheissn auf Kernspaltung und woatn bis Kernfusion wirtschaftlich funktioniert.
Austria and science are not compatible words, especially nuclear science. It is better to keep making cheese instant of nuclear plants. By the way, in terms of the last words in this video, the Czech Republic is more advanced than Austria, even in space technology.
Je la la sûreté nucléaire doivent être prévenue et que l'Union européenne sache que il y a une centrale nucléaire en Autriche abandonné donc il devrait la démantelé
"Mine-Grade" in German Language usually means Explosion-safe. So all Wiring is sealed Gas-tight that no explosive Gas can reach it and ignite in case of a Spark.
I don’t know why exactly, but these kinds of plants literally scare the tar out of me. Looking at the hundreds of pipes and the many many holes in the reactors just gives me chills for whatever reason. Nonetheless it’s really really cool, just kinda interesting to the point it’s freaky lol.
Coal power plants are also in similar built type. If you want large amount of energy generation in short period of time, you have to build something like this,... otherwise enjoy wind turbines and solar panels,... they way they look simple, they also generate energy in simple 1 digit numbers 😆
The magnitude of power generation in such plants is considerably higher than of renewables. Due to the many fluids moving trought such a reactor are so varied that you may need 20 different fluids for just 1 process.
Yeah, that's really stupid. In the US, generally before something like this can be built, the locals have a say in weather they want it approve the project. If it doesn't get approved then it doesn't get built. Of course, this can create headaches too. The old busy bodies in the village I used to live in have voted down just about every proposal, from ones that would create decent paying blue collar jobs to something to something as simple as a cell phone tower that would improve spotty coverage in the area.
@@S3tekh Oh, yes ... I almost forgot ! The "thing" at the bottom of the containment vessel (like 3 floors below) is really, ... really, hot ... I don't know where it might have came from ... But the Emergency Stop button still works.
More familiar with our Canadian CANDU reactors I can see this BWR concept of reactor is potentially dangerous and hazardous to maintain....for example radioactive steam through the turbines...leakage? The control rod area beneath the vessel must have been hell itself...
This reactor type has several weaknesses, also it tended to get cracks in the pressure vessel at some weldings which could not be checked after installation. It's cheaper, but inferior to later PWR types.
It was never used, that's why it seems finished building, besides what you wrote you invented it yourself and it is nothing more than your simple and irrelevant opinion, thank heaven.
It'll always be funny to me (for both, Austria and Germany), that anti-nuclear people are always surprised the Coal is the replacement for reactors, and that it emits way more radiation right into the atmosphere than any nuclear plant built in either country ever would
Did he say that Kreisky was unpopular at that time? Bruno Kreisky had a majority of more than 50% of the seats in Austrian parlament and is until today seen as the best and most loved chancelor in Austrian history 😅
What a shame so much money was wasted building it and staffing it just for it to never be used. I'm not anti-nuclear like some and all for it as long as everyone plays their part in keeping it safe. I understand the fear of nuclear by many but overall, in the energy industry it has had far less accidents and deaths than any other.
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@@austrianfuck7450 It would be really cool to be able to take a tour inside, too bad it's hard to get a ticket. Just watching your video you can make a tuor inside. Excellent video show... Tmj... Hugs from ADVENTURER PAULEK!
It was a older primitive design with inherent design problems that would have been devastating if someone or something went wrong. Better to have not taken the chance. I am not against nuclear power. But I am of the opinion that modern more technologically advanced safer designs should be used and not the older ones.
@@Veritas-invenitur In a perfect ideal world everyone would do the right thing, work to the absolute best of their ability. Doing all of this in a nuclear power plant guarantees nothing can go wrong. Unfortunately it’s not like that. People aren’t perfect, people make mistakes accidents can happen. Than there’s people where that cut corners, work while tired, drunk or high. I mean fukushima happened because the plant was built on land where the tsunami hit. Even though tests, simulations and geographic information showed that tsunamis and earthquakes could happen in that exact spot. But the cheapskates didn’t want to find a safer spot so they built there. There was a separate nuclear accident in 1999 at the Tokaimura nuclear plant. Corners were cut, safety standards were cut to increase productivity. There was a man who was exposed to so much radiation that the doctors had no idea how he was still alive at that moment. I say moment because he was the very definition of the walking dead, he wasn't going to die he was all ready dead it was just It take 83 to slowly catch up to him. His heart stopped many, many, many , many times and his entire body fell apart on the cellular level but the scientists kept him alive against his will he was begging and pleading for a lethal injection of pain medication but it was withheld on purpose for the longest time because they wanted data. I haven't put the name because I am begging and pleading with you not to look up the name because pictures come up and they can never ever be unseen.
@@FOXCYBORGNINJA Unfortunately. I have read and seen all the medical reports and photos from the control room workers and firefighters at Chernobyl. I have extensively studied the nuclear industry and nuclear incidents.
no they were to ignorant to invest in more big hydroelectric dams , therefor they wanted nuclear Also parts of east germany that were close to their giant brown coal plant had way higher radiation levels than the surrounding areas after they serched for Chernobyl fallout , there a high radiation was detected before the chernobyl fallout even came down coal is radioactive - mainly containing cesium, iodine and uranium+beryllium power plant ashes are actually quite hot radiation whise
@@comptelo-cz Your numbers are wrong. They cover more than 90 % of their supply with own power plants, but they also use a lot of wind and solar power they get from Germany to store it in their pump storage lakes. file:///tmp/mozilla_simon0/energiegesamtrechnung_elektrische_energie_2008_bis_2018.pdf You can use your eastern European nuclear energy by yourself, we have enough own power plants here in western Europe.
@@comptelo-cz Germany has the biggest power plant capacity ever in history, we are exporting in all countries (except France) more electricity than we import. Even without the nuclear power plants we will have enough electricity, they only support relatively little, and there are enough spare power plants in reserve. Nobody in Germany is shutting down a power plant without having the same capaity for replacement. Europe has a EU-wide grid to be more flexible, ena enable trading with electricity. This is a feature, no bug, and it's intended.
Austrian citizens were smart to abandon this Boiling Water Reactor design. General Electric's original BWR design in the US and elsewhere are being seen for the dangers they represent and are being targeted for shutdown in the near future. The idea that the control rods and some emergency systems are actuated from the bottom of the reactor and are power dependent rather than gravity dependent as they are in Pressurized Water Reactors is a design fault that all licensed BWR machines never really addressed. Oyster Creek, Peach Bottom, Quad Cities, and other BWR machines licensed in the United States need more proper scrutiny and evaluation of their true cost picture.
i would really like to see the source of your Statement at 11:52, where you say that a coal power plant produces more Radiation than a nuclear power plant.
Try Google. There are more resources. Recently, it has even been investigated whether it is possible to separate Uranium from fly ash from thermal power plants. The Canadian company Sparton Resources Inc. tested it in Xiaolongtang in China.
@@Researchers-cz I found this paper but it concludes that a coal power plant only emmits more Radiation if you dont include the nuclear waste and an accident in the calculations. science.sciencemag.org/content/202/4372/1045 The average dose of Radiation that you receive if you live near a coal power plant is actually higher than if you live near a nuclear power plant but the daily average dose every human receives is much higher than that. www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/the-daily-need/how-much-radiation-is-too-much-a-handy-guide/8124/ Your channel is called Researchers so please do your Research before you publish your videos
Coal power causes plenty of harm to the environment that releases carbon monoxide and harmful oxides to the environment, this release of harsh substances are monitored by countries for they have a timetable wherein not to completely rely on fossil fuel, as they cause earthquakes, erosion, tsunamis, as well as nuclear fusion as Japan opts for healthier and renewable sources of energy, such as geothermal, harnesses energy from volcanoes in order to harness thermal energy and prevent volcanic eruption, disturbances to topography aside from unethical use of material for construction of infrastructure and buildings. Countries are inclined into use of healthier sources of energy, biofuel, from plants, chlorophyll based and the plast, as well as water for Ionos.
The technology for solar panels is getting better and better. There will be a threshold where the efficiency can be compared to other energy sources. It is something we can look forward to, isn't it? :)
The biggest solar installation worldwide is gonna to build in Australia, 10 GW, 13 times the power of this reactor type here, with a 20 GWh battery for a 24/7 energy supply
"steal" 1970s technology you can easily find in the internet? i think even north korea have more modern nuclear technology at this point, they can probably just ask china or russia
It's a boiling water reactor designed in 69 (called SWR 69), it's obsolete and all the active ones of this type in Germany were shut down in 2011. You can't steal anything here, of course visitors don't get exact plans and blueprints. All you can see there as a visitor is also available by public sources over the internet.
@@jannejohansson3383 That's right, but you need a reactor to produce plutonium, because you don't find plutonium in nature like uranium. So all the plutonium used worldwide in nuclear weapons was produced in reactors. For weapons grade uranium (which is PU-239, not other isotopes like PU-240) you have to leave the fuel rods in the reactor for a shorter time than usual. Nuclear weapons are also the only reason for nuclear reprocessing facilities, the only countries running this facilities (USA, France, Great Britain, Russia etc) are always nuclear armed countries.
I do believe the idea behind keeping it in near working condition is that it could be commissioned if the political tides changed regarding nuclear. I’m sure it wouldn’t take much to get that place operational again, it looks like everything is still fully hooked up and functional
In 1978, Austria enacted a constitutional law prohibiting the construction and operation of fission reactors for electrical power generation. Some parts are also been sold as spare parts to other plants with identically constructed reactors. Besides, its used for operator training, guided tours and you can also lease the area for filming purposes. Only one operational reactor remains in the Vienna University of Technology.
@@xshowda True, but if they ever were to get rid of the law, 99.9% of the plant is already built and in perfect condition, and the rest can be retrieved from the (then decomissioned) german plants, so it would only take some workers, fresh fuel rods, removing the signposts and shipping some (free) parts to get it going.
The powerplant was 100% finished and ready for operation. Also the fuel rods were at the site and ready for insertion. The law to use nuclear power and put it on operation was rejected by a referendum. In the next years it keep ready for operation until a a law was signed wich abendoned nuclear power plants in austria generally. After that the fuel rods were sold, also some parts of the system were sold to identical power plants. The plant was from now on used for training porposes. But theoretical it was still possible to get it operational again. There was still hope for a mind change in public until the INES7 desaster in cherobyl. 1999 the law of not using nuclear power plants become part of the constitution of austria. The power plant also getting in the ages, there was no hope of getting it ever operational. Few years later the owner decided to build a hole into the containment and the reactor pressure vessel for better training possibilities. Since this action it is not possible to made it operational again because this is not repairable.
even if laws were changed, it is highly unlikely a plant built in the 70's will be put back into service.. it is probably highly expensive to the point of unfeasibility.
people are idiots, it was a perfectly good solution for clean energy, then they got 2 coal plant which producing more nuclear waste than this. awesome. This is why experts should decide not residents or politicians
You know how to stop the waste dust from coming from stacks? It's called filters and decontamination technology. Also if your ganna bitch about coal, tell me ur goal of getting rid of used uranium safely and not having to wait thousands of not millions of years for it to be gone.
1. It's clean. Cleaner than any other thermal power plant, all things (manufacturing) considered probably also cleaner than solar panels. 2. It's reliable. Doesn't need wind, doesn't need sunlight to operate. 3. It's powerful. 4. It's cheap. 5. It doesn't need a lot of maintenance. Minimal downtime compared to solar or wind The only better source of electric power I can think of is water, but you obviously can't build dams everywhere. Now tell me, what else, if not nuclear? But remember, you need an electric source for nights with no wind...
@@user-lu6cy7hm2t Then wait until one of the dams breaks, and you know hydro can be just as deadly as nuclear. Also, water turbines shred fish. In the end, all larger energy sources can kill you and other living things in some way or another, as any larger ammounts of energy, no matter the form, are plainly destructive if released in an uncontrolled way.
@@user-lu6cy7hm2t The accident ratio between power plants says, that dams have killed more people than any other plants so far. Nuclear being the last of them. Go figure. Oh, and reactor exploded only once. It was a russian designed RBMK. Others have a containment shield which prevents the contamination. So no need to worry or panic.
@@StewartEvans52 exactly. it was already primed for startup when a referendum turned out against nuclear power and new laws that forbid nuclear power plants in austria went into force. it's a wild story