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@ITSHISTORY
@ITSHISTORY 3 года назад
Ring the bell and get ready for this one!!! YOU DO NOT WANT TO MISS IT!
@the21stcenturytrolleydodge31
@the21stcenturytrolleydodge31 3 года назад
Do the Denver tunnels next?
@billie44
@billie44 3 года назад
This old the tunnelshave been remodeled the gallery has been remodeled and renamed All of Market east has Been gentrified
@the21stcenturytrolleydodge31
@the21stcenturytrolleydodge31 3 года назад
The Denver tunnels? There is still the coal tunnel and secret brothel tunnel at the Capital dome, the pedestrian tunnel at union station to the oxford hotel and the interconnecting tunnels that have been walled off downtown
@thatguy6214
@thatguy6214 3 года назад
Absolutely terrible video. All you did was mention street name after street name with no highlights of where the fuck your talking about or how far between the intersections it is. Looking thru the comments you also were not accurate with many things. I wont be back.
@robloxcolorcubesfan9217
@robloxcolorcubesfan9217 3 года назад
I live in this city!
@bifftannen2062
@bifftannen2062 3 года назад
Philly the first "Graffiti" City but also the First City to be known for tieing your old sneakers together and throwing them over the telephone wires. Years later you could drive by and still see your childhood sneakers hanging in South Philly somewhere, no joke, LOL
@Ghettofireman80
@Ghettofireman80 3 года назад
I use to do that in the early 90s when I lived in southwest philly
@rexjolles
@rexjolles 3 года назад
And also the origin city of "yo"
@Ghettofireman80
@Ghettofireman80 3 года назад
@@rexjolles jawn as well
@nekomako777
@nekomako777 3 года назад
What a classy tradition.
@speedracer1945
@speedracer1945 3 года назад
Shoes over a wire meant a death . We had them do it in Baltimore in the 80s
@colourwheel5703
@colourwheel5703 3 года назад
Montreal has 32 kilometres of underground city that is active and vital and beautiful. No need to get cold in the winter. Toronto also has a huge vast underground of 30 kilometres of shops, restaurants etc. called The Path. I think there are videos on both.
@craigcook9715
@craigcook9715 3 года назад
Helsinki also has a large network of tunnels underground (or did, when I was a student there briefly in 1998).
@stevebabiak6997
@stevebabiak6997 3 года назад
People of Canada realized that winter weather can be brutal for humans; their underground city areas allow for humans to avoid that brutal winter weather.
@jasonbrazen3732
@jasonbrazen3732 3 года назад
@Colourwheel Chicago has something very similar called the Pedway. I'm glad to live in Philly. I love it here. 😊
@bullhead420
@bullhead420 3 года назад
I thought it was all syrup under there.
@francoischamberland4029
@francoischamberland4029 3 года назад
And no crime in these tunnels or pathways, they look at their proper maintenance with security guards and cleanliness..
@lisahaskell7770
@lisahaskell7770 2 года назад
I moved away from Philly 11 years ago. I remember as a teenager walking all of those concourses underground to avoid the foot traffic on the street, especially when it rained. I am saddened to hear that many of the walkways and concourses are closed. I remember getting off the Market-Frankford El at 8th Street and walked the concourse to the Gallery directly underground. So sad to know these are closed. I also remembered during my high school years (the 80's) when the Broad Ridge Spur was re opened after years of closure, and the reopening of the Fairmount Avenue stop on the Broad Street Subway. I also remember the closed area after the Tasker Morris stop. So many memories.
@bryn494
@bryn494 9 месяцев назад
I arrived in Philly in '83 and was shocked at the state of the roads. Market St. was almost derelict, full of pot-holes and grit from the crumbling asphalt. It was a while before I found out it was all to be dig up :D
@pauldudley8837
@pauldudley8837 3 года назад
Looking forward to this. I grew up in Folcroft off Chester Pike and went to Temple University after hs and I commuted my first two years. I loved exploring. Sometimes I'd take the 8th and Market Spur off the southbound Broad Street train. My last year in school I lived behind the the art museum at 27th and Brown and discovered a no longer used train tunnel running along the museum. I'm sure there's a lot more perhaps that I don't know about but very much looking forward to watching. I've lived in Chicago the past 26 years and really enjoyed your Chicago videos.
@Unfamous_Buddha
@Unfamous_Buddha 3 года назад
-- I lived in Yeadon in the 60s. I'd hitchhike to the 69th street terminal and ride the El back and forth for 25¢.
@dtvjho
@dtvjho 2 года назад
You're right in the area where Spring Garden St. enters a tunnel that runs under the Art Museum steps. Only westbound traffic can get in there, and oddly the 2 lanes split into separate halves, and the city usually keeps one side blocked. I've been in there a few times on my bike, it looks just like a real subway tunnel, same construction as the Subway, with pillars up the middle. The city just paved each trackbed and let cars run on it.
@samanthab1923
@samanthab1923 2 года назад
Did they dye the river this St Paddy’s Day?
@phillydan
@phillydan Год назад
​@@dtvjhoit is a former trolly tunnel. They converted it after that trolly route was discontinued.
@rutheliz75
@rutheliz75 3 года назад
When I attended junior college in center city from 1969-1971I was able to walk from the Reading Terminal to Broad and Spruce streets using the concourse system . I did have to dodge massive piles of dog poop left behind buy police dogs. There was a police sub station in the center of the south Broad St. concourse. They were very convenient in super cold and rainy weather. All five original department stores could be accessed by the concourse system and the Market East gallery.
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
I liked the fact that you could access department stores from the el/ subway stops
@dtvjho
@dtvjho 2 года назад
There's also a concourse tunnel / passage in north Philadelphia, in the area of Broad St. and Lehigh Ave. It ties together the two North Philadelphia stations, the one on the Subway and the other on the NE Corridor. This also was closed with a "high crime" reason. The Subway stop was built with dual island platforms as it was originally an express stop, because both stations had high usage / transfers back in the day. This configuration still offers an advantage to commuters as those coming from certain directions can avoid Center City and directly transfer to/from Amtrak, and I understand a few hundred commuters daily still use this connection to go to NYC.
@dennisholiday1868
@dennisholiday1868 2 года назад
Yes I remember that tunnel because I used it to see the RFK Train when it went pass North Philadelphia Station.
@tkso.philly3879
@tkso.philly3879 3 года назад
We call them,Trolleys in Philly-
@davidlawrence3645
@davidlawrence3645 2 года назад
I hate when people try to elevate or justify or mollify graffiti and it's destructive effect. Call them taggers. Call them vandals. Call them criminals, but don't call them them artists for crying out loud. This comes from someone who's lived almost 30 years in Phila.
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
You said it right
@kraggman
@kraggman Год назад
Interesting video. We used those subways all the time. Growing up in Philly I remember the CornBread tags. Other big ones back then were Chewy and Kool Earl.
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
I thought they were in a competition earl and cornbread.
@pha-q-all5073
@pha-q-all5073 2 года назад
Now Philly the entire city is one gigantic dope fiend
@davidvavra9113
@davidvavra9113 3 года назад
I'm reminded of Chicago's Ford City's Peacock Alley
@CarsCatAliens
@CarsCatAliens 2 года назад
I went in a do not enter door one day and walked through tunnels for about 30-40 min before popping out in the back part of the gallery, where the fish market is
@LuisMendoza-pp9qi
@LuisMendoza-pp9qi 2 года назад
Nothing like the PATH underground system of pedestrian tunnels in Toronto, it's almost 19 Miles total!!
@Dzztzt
@Dzztzt 3 года назад
I work in a place with one of these tunnels blocked off in our basement
@matthewgumabon7498
@matthewgumabon7498 3 года назад
I went to school in Philly at Drexel until 2020. For most of my time there, I wasn’t really the explorer type, and I’m not a Philly local, so the reputation I heard of crime and homelessness in the city honestly made me nervous, so I just stuck around campus and University City. By the time I graduated, I got a full-time job in Philly and I felt like I was ready start digging into different parts of the city, but the pandemic struck right around that time. Everything closed down in a matter of days, and college students basically evacuated over the first few months after switching to online school. Tourism stopped and a lot of non-locals left, so the city was left barren, and the empty streets were roamed by homeless people, even in the university towns. On top of that the BLM protests and riots were going full force, so Philly felt like a war zone. Windows and entrances were boarded up, curfews, police patrols everywhere, National Guard convoys guarding monuments, and cars and stores around City Hall were in flames. It was really heartbreaking to see. I have since left Philly, and over my years there I developed a sort of love-hate relationship with the place. It’s so rich in history and culture, but it is plagued by a ton of societal issues. With my current career path, I will probably never be able to return to Philly, so I regret being so timid in my early years and not exploring enough. I’ll just have to settle for these documentaries I guess.
@roadtosomewhere6125
@roadtosomewhere6125 3 года назад
Get back to the Main Line Matt
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
We have a word for that
@CaptOrbit
@CaptOrbit 3 года назад
Years and years ago I knew someone who had a website that had an entire section dedicated to the largely abandoned utility tunnels under a major American city. Not too long after the 9/11 attacks he was contacted by the FBI and told that for security purposes that he needed to delete that section of his website. Apparently they were afraid that the detailed maps and photographs might give those with ill intent the means to pursue their goals below the city streets and out view of the authorities. Supposedly. Knowing he probably could have fought them in the end he decided that it was an expensive and risky endeavor to take on the federal government so he removed the section from his website. That may be why you had such a degree of difficulty finding photographs and other information regarding the Philadelphia concourses.
@bigben1986
@bigben1986 3 года назад
Nope Corn bread did not start grafitti. grafitti was started in NYC
@charlesschauer8927
@charlesschauer8927 3 года назад
Interesting....I also remember "Banana"
@henryjohnson7083
@henryjohnson7083 3 года назад
Lie
@bigben1986
@bigben1986 3 года назад
@@henryjohnson7083 You think you know Grafitti, you actually don't. I'm no new jack man!
@henryjohnson7083
@henryjohnson7083 3 года назад
@@bigben1986 so where’s your evidence to support your claim
@bigben1986
@bigben1986 3 года назад
@@henryjohnson7083 What am I in court? lmao, I hope you are old school cuz if you aren't, don't let the door hit you when you leave. don't want to be harsh, but Corn Bread was not the first "Aerosoul" ok spray paint wall writer. Philly and NY are close and yes Philly has its own handstyles etc. but no way did he himself start it. he even said he started hip hop. cmon.
@aliciamayo3682
@aliciamayo3682 2 года назад
I live in philly and we still use some of these train tunnel
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
Me too
@athay14
@athay14 Месяц назад
Here's a great idea for pedestrian activities for all the anti car people who have moved into the city. Petition the city to reopen these spaces.
@1625GEE
@1625GEE 2 года назад
These tunnels are ancient and been there.
@savenawalker704
@savenawalker704 Год назад
philadelphia has a lot of history my mom grew up there and would tell me stories
@LiamE69
@LiamE69 3 года назад
Old? Europe intensifies
@thedukeofswellington1827
@thedukeofswellington1827 2 года назад
SEPTA needs to be restructured. Its not fair that each county gets the same # of commissioners. Whenever they want to do big project to help relieve the congestion in the city the other counties can gang up amd basically veto DESPERATELY needed projects like the CC Loop, BR Spur, Roosevelt Blvd Line etc. Know what theyre building now? Instead of the Blvd line that would serve over 200,000 a day? An uneeded and unwanted "high-speed line" to KOP mall 😆😆😆
@Poisson4147
@Poisson4147 Год назад
The line to KofP is needed because that area's constantly clogged. Plus there are thousands of reverse commuters now. Other than that I agree. NO reason for the city to be so poorly represented. And the board chairman isn't even a transportation person, he runs a freakin' BEER DISTRIBUTORSHIP. Maybe that's why SEPTA treats its passengers like packing cases.
@dianaadhikari45
@dianaadhikari45 3 года назад
Why did crime in Philadelphia increase in 2012?
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
Don’t get political now
@dianaadhikari45
@dianaadhikari45 Год назад
There were drugs and poverty before 2012
@trendy4tmrw
@trendy4tmrw Год назад
I know you try to keep things light and your info is amazing…but city politics are nuanced and Philly’s continued to deinvest in public spaces which causes crime and poverty. Understanding government corruption is an important piece.
@crystalyana9533
@crystalyana9533 3 года назад
CORNBREAD!!! HE WAS MY GUY!! WE GREW UP TOGETHER!!!
@RentAsunder0
@RentAsunder0 3 года назад
Get caught in em and the transit cops will fine you and lock your ass up the workers still use em and its not like they are unused and dark most are very clean and well lit. There are rats, big rats.
@rexracernj7696
@rexracernj7696 3 года назад
Well intentioned, but inaccurate in SO MANY ways!
@cuginoeddie8677
@cuginoeddie8677 3 года назад
Edmund Bacon is the father of Kevin Bacon
@rturney6376
@rturney6376 Год назад
Wow 🤩!!! Thank you 😊 for pointing this out
@thymewest1126
@thymewest1126 2 года назад
Cornbread tagged on the Jackson 5 plane
@mauricejohnson6127
@mauricejohnson6127 3 года назад
4:04 u not slick buddy🤨
@Unfamous_Buddha
@Unfamous_Buddha 3 года назад
-- He could have mentioned "Filthadelphia."
@Mook215philly
@Mook215philly 3 года назад
@@Unfamous_Buddha I think Philadelphia or Philly would have been just fine.
@Unfamous_Buddha
@Unfamous_Buddha 3 года назад
@@Mook215philly -- You live here? I have most of my life.
@Mook215philly
@Mook215philly 3 года назад
@@Unfamous_Buddha Yeah, same.
@Unfamous_Buddha
@Unfamous_Buddha 3 года назад
@@Mook215philly -- My first comment wasn't really meant as a disparagement, but as an example of another commonly used moniker besides the "Killadelphia" that the video's narrator used. Center City is cleaner than it used to be. But I've seen videos posted of Kensington avenue which seem worse -- worse than twenty-five years ago when I tended bar on that street, two blocks from Allegheny (where we had a sawed-off shotgun under the bar).
@theMOCmaster
@theMOCmaster 3 года назад
theyre probably full of water right now
@phatballs9834
@phatballs9834 3 года назад
Watching this ,I could almost smell the piss.
@isejanus2714
@isejanus2714 3 года назад
I used those tunnels as a kid in the late sixties. I went to school near Suburban Station, the terminus of the Pennsylvania RR commuter lies. The concourse was a convenient way to get out of the rain and snow, at the time the only commercial activity was a news stand that stocked Marvel Comics.
@qwerty4134
@qwerty4134 3 года назад
Well it is still open in areas like Suburban station and city Hall areas. They just had to start closing the farther out areas because of the poverty and crime. Last time I was there everything was still open
@ookie4179
@ookie4179 2 года назад
Human trafficking is why they’re closed off now
@bustedupgrunt1177
@bustedupgrunt1177 6 месяцев назад
My ride from in town to home in SW Philly was the 13 trolley, aka the African Queen.
@neeneko
@neeneko 3 года назад
Huh. I never realized the network was so big. A significant chunk is still open and used around the suburban station/city hall area, though wow is it easy to get lost.
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
It’s a trademark meaning graffiti .I remember when cornbread first started tagging in the sixties. I didn’t think any of it was remotely close to art. I often wonder about the Reading Railroad and if there is tunnels there also?
@stevebabiak6997
@stevebabiak6997 3 года назад
The internet of today still doesn’t have “smell-e-vision”; my recollection of some concourse areas is that there was a strong smell of urine there. And possibly homeless folks living there.
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 года назад
You can almost smell it through the video even.
@TBoneProductionsVB
@TBoneProductionsVB 2 года назад
You recollect correct. The city would rather have commuters walk amongst piss and poo than pay for public restrooms.
@stevebabiak6997
@stevebabiak6997 2 года назад
@@TBoneProductionsVB - but even if there were public restrooms, those restrooms would then take on that same stench. And some of those substance abusers are just gonna go potty anywhere they please; San Francisco has sidewalks loaded with human excrement.
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 2 года назад
@@stevebabiak6997 Worse, the meth heads and bums would all hang out in the restroom where it's nice and warm. And if you have a problem with the awful conditions for you and your family, you'd be labeled as "racist" or whatever. I love Philly, but the people who manage it, not so much.
@stefanhoimes
@stefanhoimes 2 года назад
My friends and I call it "deep-fried piss". I'm just glad Septa didn't follow through on the splatter/hydrophobic paint they were planning on for stations. The puddles would be massive if they did that instead of going with the dignified solution of bathrooms. Hub of Hope isn't enough.
@pauldudley8837
@pauldudley8837 3 года назад
Wow, I had no idea so many underground concourses closed. Before moving into my fraternity house at Temple, I explored all of them. Because of the many transportation systems I could travel from campus to Folcroft easily more than a dozen ways with my monthly SEPTA pass. I discovered a lot.
@ErdTirdMans
@ErdTirdMans 3 года назад
Same. I think we're old now man. We're going to be telling our kids about the tunnels like some cranky old fools now
@towertone
@towertone 3 года назад
I guess for people familiar with Philly this is great but would've helped to have more map overlays to show the system rather than just street names.
@vnigallahoir3523
@vnigallahoir3523 3 года назад
Yep, came here to say this. As a viewership we don't have the local knowledge to back this up, we need imagery associated to see any impact from the narration.
@stefanhoimes
@stefanhoimes 2 года назад
It's thankfully a simple grid of about 1/4 mile between blocks in Center City. Number streets go north/south and tree-named streets are south of Market and go east/west (besides Juniper St). Broad is where 14th St would be and intersects Market at City Hall. Most of the number streets are still alternating One Way streets and pretty damn narrow (1/4 mi doesn't give much leeway) and a lot of the trolley hardware is still on them to this day making it more dangerous for bikes. The direction of the One Way flips to the opposite at Broad on the number streets but not on the tree streets. The grid made everything soooo much easier after my head injury.
@jeffgolden253
@jeffgolden253 3 года назад
"The Gallery" mall is/was not underground. The concourse for the Market-Frankford subway might have been underground, but The Gallery rose about 3 or 4 stories above street level. The concourse from 12th and Locust to Broad St to Suburban Station is still the best pedestrian path on a rainy day. Lit's, Strawbridge & Clothier, and Gimbel's department stores (all long gone) had entrances directly from the concourse. There used to be an outdoor ice skating rink at concourse level at 17th and JFK Blvd. The center-city loop from 8th and Market to 16th and Locust is not unused. Its now the Patco High-Speed line from New Jersey. Patco also passes by the unused Franklin Square station (under the mostly overlooked northeastern square in Philadelphia's grid).
@EclecticDD
@EclecticDD 3 года назад
The ground level was underground, not street level. You took the steps or an escalator DOWN to get there. You basically went down to get into The Gallery and once you were in the building you took escalators to get to the mezzanines. Not very wheelchair friendly and this was noted as something to improve upon when it was redone as The Fashion District.
@bifftannen2062
@bifftannen2062 3 года назад
The outside street level entrance at the North /West Corner of 8th and Market required you to walk down Two Flights of red brick steps (Before they remodeled the area) to reach the main lobby and food court which in fact were one Block below Market street level. It was adjacent to the Two Story Burger King at South East 8th and Market. I think that is what the narrator is referring to desite the rest of the Mall rising several stories like the famous Strawbridge Building.
@blue9multimediagroup
@blue9multimediagroup 3 года назад
1. Lowest level of the Gallery was underground. 2. The Center City Loop was never built as it was proposed by PRT in 1914. The Ridge Spur was built by PRT in 1932 as a concession. What became PATCO was built as the Bridge Line by PRT in 1936. 3. Franklin Square is not overlooked at all and now hosts a miniature golf course and a carousel in it following its revitalization a few years. PATCO is planning to reopen the station in a few years.
@personalfunfest
@personalfunfest 3 года назад
Gallery was most definitely underground. I always remember looking UP a floor out the front door at busses going down 11th street or whatever it was from BELOW
@bradd5112
@bradd5112 3 года назад
How is Franklin Square overlooked? That park was extensively renovated in 2018 and continues to be upgraded with plans to reopen the PATCO stop in 2023.
@rrubio6660
@rrubio6660 3 года назад
Killadelphia... Really??? Cheap shots are unnecessary. It undermines your "informative" vlog.
@alexcimitile
@alexcimitile 3 года назад
that’s what we call it here in Philly! (At least north philly)
@Mook215philly
@Mook215philly 3 года назад
Thought the same thing, keep it calssy.
@roadtosomewhere6125
@roadtosomewhere6125 3 года назад
It's what natives say. You can tell the author is from the area.
@rrubio6660
@rrubio6660 3 года назад
@@roadtosomewhere6125 "Natives?"
@roadtosomewhere6125
@roadtosomewhere6125 3 года назад
@@rrubio6660 Yeah, you know, people who are native to a region. Like people born in Philly are natives of Philly.
@donoteat01
@donoteat01 3 года назад
y'know you could have like, asked people who live here and use the concourse daily about the concourse rather than fabricate a crime wave explanation for the closure of the north concourse
@donoteat01
@donoteat01 3 года назад
what the fuck is the 2012 surge in crime
@donoteat01
@donoteat01 3 года назад
and how is it relevant to the concourse shutdowns goddamned 40 years ago???
@donoteat01
@donoteat01 3 года назад
y'all know it's still there and is a homeless shelter now right because they refuse to allow those people the dignity of the light?
@doimoi958
@doimoi958 3 года назад
hi Justin
@blue9multimediagroup
@blue9multimediagroup 3 года назад
@@doimoi958 thought we were the only one to peep that 😆
@jerrysilverman1
@jerrysilverman1 3 года назад
interesting, but filled with major errors and misconceptions. many tunnels were simply filled with utility lines and the walkways were moved to parallel tunnels, most of the concourses are still in use, and one can walk from 7th to 19th now, and from near arch street down to spruce...same as for past 90 years. the walkways connect two major regional commuter stations, a dozen commuter lines, 5 trolley lines, and 4 subways including one to NJ, many fantastic office towers, shops, department stores, government buildings, and restaurants. the arch street portion was cleverly and responsibly converted to a beautiful facility for homeless to shower and rest, but you never showed that. this was sensationalized with all those pix of graffiti and references to crime, making a truly beautiful city look frightening and dangerous. the video was supposed to be about tunnels, but most of it was about everything but. in all fairness you should pull that video and replace with a more balanced and honest one..
@NoNameNo.5
@NoNameNo.5 3 года назад
Jerry…give it a rest…I live here, I lived here my whole life…we used to skate, smoke and graffiti in the abandoned lines and factories along the Delaware. This is how the city really is, even if you don’t see it in center city/Olde city or wherever you live.
@jayh9529
@jayh9529 3 года назад
Jon levi channel may help 🤔
@Unfamous_Buddha
@Unfamous_Buddha 3 года назад
@@NoNameNo.5 -- And they shouldn't have mentioned Cornbread without Cool Earl (and Homicide Ron).
@juniatapark54
@juniatapark54 3 года назад
Philadelphia is the city that Jerry describes and the abandoned places that Nameless mentions. It's both.
@NoNameNo.5
@NoNameNo.5 3 года назад
@@Unfamous_Buddha Right, but Jerry was the only one saying there were "major errors" and suggested "pulling down" someone else work, and for that, he is in the wrong
@tomtransport
@tomtransport 3 года назад
Edmund Bacon was Kevin Bacon, (the dancer/actor) father. In the late 50's 56 to 59 I traveled those tunnels every day of the week. The "UGLY" graffiti was non existent. B 4 school let out for the summer it was a lot cooler to walk down there. I walked from Reading station at Lehigh Ave. & Broad St. to Broad & Spring Garden St. to go to school. You could hear the subway trains/trolleys but I did not see them till I got to major subway stops and I had the tunnels to myself. The were well lit, clean, tiled and the echo was Cool.
@Unfamous_Buddha
@Unfamous_Buddha 3 года назад
-- In the 90s I tended bar at 10 south 20th street (center city, right below Market st). Some guy came in bought a six-pack of Bud (and tipped me $2). I'm thinking, "Where do I know this guy, he looks familiar, maybe from high school or something?" -- It hit me after he left that it was Kevin Bacon.
@lorrainedubzak6654
@lorrainedubzak6654 2 года назад
When and, where did you go to school?
@tomtransport
@tomtransport 2 года назад
@@lorrainedubzak6654 I went to Stoddart-Fleisher Middle School 1956-1958 at that time. The schools were across the street (13th and Green St.?) from one another. I had some classes in Stoddart then went across the street to Fleisher for others.
@austinevplab7167
@austinevplab7167 3 года назад
This is a great job! One thought for your next video, all these streets names - _From X street to Y street_ gives me no sense of scale because I don’t know the city. On one of those google maps perhaps placing indicators would be helpful. I enjoyed this one!
@yvonneplant9434
@yvonneplant9434 3 года назад
We probably will never know what might have happened with mass transit in the future in Philadelphia if " Trolley King" George Widener( and his son) had not died on the Titanic in 1912.
@tracedehaven2190
@tracedehaven2190 3 года назад
I would only add that the practice of closing down underground passageways began long before 2012. In late 70's/early 80's, I often used the underground tunnel that ran from the southwest corner of 30th street station under 30th street to the subway concourse for the Market St. El. That was closed in the late 80's I believe. And even in the early 80's when The Gallery was a thriving mall, the associated underground concourses underneath Market Street were not well utilized. It was dark and damp down there, not very inviting, thought to be dangerous. The city tried to clean it up, but their efforts did not lead to more utilization by commuters or pedestrians. There was frequently talk of extending The Gallery into that space, but nothing ever came of it, likely due to the expense of actually making it comfortable down there. It was handy on a rainy day, if you happened to be going that direction and weren't going far enough to get on the subway. I even used it a few times when I was a bike messenger, to get out of the rain, though I avoided actually riding down there. The police didn't like that at all. There used to be more underground access to office buildings. I remember using a staircase that would take you from a hallway off the below-ground-level concourse of suburban station (past the barber shop, if you remember where that was) up to a hotel fronting on 17th street. That staircase was also closed sometime in the mid-80's when the hotel was renovated or converted to office space, I don't remember. It would be nice to see some of these underground spaces be utilized again, but two things would have to happen first. One, mass transit would have to become a lot more popular again. And the issues of crime, grime and poor lighting would have to be sufficiently addressed to give the general public confidence in using those spaces again.
@tolfan4438
@tolfan4438 2 года назад
Do you remember the homeless town in the big concourse tunnel under broad st
@JOHNSTIER23
@JOHNSTIER23 2 года назад
@@tolfan4438 yes I worked on theSpur in the eighties They would initiate new workers by putting a mask on a guy and his job was to scare the new guys in the tunnels it always worked I was one of the caught off guard by this cornbread plant man etc
@Poisson4147
@Poisson4147 Год назад
The 30th St. connection's being rebuilt, finally. I used it all the time when travelling, hate that I now have to carry bags outside even though both stations are in the same place.
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
Below the Allegheny station is a two level concourse filled with water and crackers not knowing this it really surprised me in 1986. I wonder if it is still there?
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
@@JOHNSTIER23 I saw all of this it’s true
@BKaneNp8
@BKaneNp8 3 года назад
Everything was going great till you decided to call our city the unoriginal name of “killadelphia” …. So unnecessary
@KeithSchwerin
@KeithSchwerin 3 года назад
Edmund Bacon, Father of Kevin Bacon. I was lucky enough to see them both having lunch in Rittenhouse Sq one day shortly before Edumnd's passing
@lwgoinghome
@lwgoinghome 3 года назад
This really takes me back. Shivers. Grew up here and took the subway all the time. This is kinda weird now. I haven't lived there since 1988 but I am going to visit next month.
@courtneyprice3487
@courtneyprice3487 3 года назад
You will be severely disappointed when you get here. Time has not been kind to the concourse...
@lwgoinghome
@lwgoinghome 3 года назад
@@courtneyprice3487 Visiting family so I probably won't be going down there anyway...especially now that you've shared this info.
@smplyizzy
@smplyizzy Месяц назад
Did you make it out alive?
@lwgoinghome
@lwgoinghome Месяц назад
@@smplyizzy no I am a ghost now, living in Ohio. LOL
@treaty92
@treaty92 2 года назад
Back in the 1990’s as a police officer we would get “detailed” from our districts to the subway. We all hated it, our radios didn’t work down there, they gave us SEPTA radios so we were out of communication with Philadelphia Police Radio, the whole place was filthy and smelled intensely of urine.
@stefanhoimes
@stefanhoimes 2 года назад
Not much has changed since.
@Pookybr
@Pookybr Год назад
Yea that was my first thought when I read the title. The smell of urine and how nasty it was down there. I’m so glad they closed it. It was so unhealthy.
@JamesCook-u9h
@JamesCook-u9h 5 месяцев назад
I can smell it from the video We have the same thing in Chicago. Wouldn't hurt a bit to send the fire department down there every once and awhile to hose it down
@Rebecca-le9hn
@Rebecca-le9hn 2 года назад
In the 70s, You could walk from Arch St. underground all the way to Strawbridge's. This was great on rainy and cold days.
@jayfredrickson8632
@jayfredrickson8632 Год назад
As a long term (though not native) resident of Philly I find this fascinating. So much invisible history.
@noobster4779
@noobster4779 3 года назад
The city is "old" Depends in your perspective of "old"....the house im in right know is fromt he middle ages so...yeah :D
@hazzmati
@hazzmati 3 года назад
That’s impossible as european settlers only started arriving well after the middle ages
@davidcarlin3850
@davidcarlin3850 3 года назад
Killadelphia ? That’s pretty harsh. Lots of good in the city that’s not covered. Also when you mention something that happened in the 50s, use. Realistic picture, not something from the 70s
@charlesschauer8927
@charlesschauer8927 3 года назад
Use to be "Filth adelphia"
@shaynorthan101
@shaynorthan101 3 года назад
I mean the gun violence here is pretty wild.
@shiftyfitter
@shiftyfitter 3 года назад
Kensington Ave exists, you have nothing to be proud of.
@stefanhoimes
@stefanhoimes 2 года назад
@@shiftyfitter there's good people on Kensington Ave. It's just sadly really neglected by the government. I lived a few blocks from K & S for a while. Loved my neighbors.
@gt-gu7rb
@gt-gu7rb 3 года назад
In all this you missed the biggest abandoned concourse of all. A lot of native Philadelphians don't know this but there is a concourse that runs under the Roosevelt Blvd that was intended as a spur of the Brraod st subway. Construction was stopped in the 40's at the advent of WWII as there was no money for infrastructure as all was going to the war effort. It is sealed and never completed
@jm-bv1wh
@jm-bv1wh 3 года назад
The air vents and sealed entrances are still there.
@cheezst8ke
@cheezst8ke 3 года назад
Are you refering to the subway station that was built near Adams & the Blvd. where the old Sears building was?
@gt-gu7rb
@gt-gu7rb 3 года назад
@@cheezst8ke Yes
@dtvjho
@dtvjho 2 года назад
@@gt-gu7rb The media made it out that the station was destroyed. Interesting. I heard some engineers looking into the proposed Roosevelt Subway noticed that the station was not in the right place, was off to the side and pointed in an odd direction.
@seancrowley1065
@seancrowley1065 29 дней назад
​@@cheezst8keDon't they have a few vents behind the fence of Friends hospital ????
@alanmichael6713
@alanmichael6713 2 года назад
Every major city in America is has tunnels under it
@my2cents945
@my2cents945 2 года назад
FYI, Ed Bacon is actor Kevin Bacon's father.
@pamelalaroda
@pamelalaroda 2 года назад
*wow*
@CharlesD4rwin
@CharlesD4rwin 3 года назад
Expansive subway!? A single north / south line, and a single East/west line.
@Unfamous_Buddha
@Unfamous_Buddha 3 года назад
Haha, yeah, right?
@johnmurphy9646
@johnmurphy9646 3 года назад
There are tunnels and provisions for expansion that fell victim to the Great Depression. It would have been expansive.
@TurtleDude05
@TurtleDude05 3 года назад
Love this kind of history. In my city, we have an intire network of catacombs under our downtown area due to how they simply constructed new structures on top of old ones.
@NoNameNo.5
@NoNameNo.5 3 года назад
Dude….how can you make a comment like that WITHOUT telling us what city!?
@TurtleDude05
@TurtleDude05 3 года назад
@@NoNameNo.5 Indianapolis Indiana. You can actually take tours of them from April to October.
@AZREDFERN
@AZREDFERN 3 года назад
Unpopular opinion: If we actually cared about the environment, we would expand our rail network, re-install the underground delivery system, and ban semi-trucks anywhere this is in play and below 95% capacity. Most importantly, deny air travel except when absolutely necessary. Personal ground travel makes up the smallest portion of pollution. Yet it’s the only thing that gets attacked by environmentalists because it’s an easy target.
@VideoDotGoogleDotCom
@VideoDotGoogleDotCom 3 года назад
Limit the world population. Problem solved. The rest don't have to live like cavemen.
@Scott-hb1xn
@Scott-hb1xn 3 года назад
When I was in High School in Philadelphia back in in the early 1980s (1980-81) I used to use these tunnels to get from around 15th & Spruce to 10th & Chestnut, where my dad worked... I remember fondly exploring what seemed semi-abandoned spaces at the time- especially when I would travel farther over to "The Gallery", and look at the older display windows from long gone stores. This was nothing new the... For a young teen age kid, it was quite interesting to wander these long, undulating hallways, below the street, and above other trains...
@QuincyStallworth77
@QuincyStallworth77 2 года назад
I used to roam those tunnels as kid. It’s amazing how if you have some time and curious friends, you can discover a whole new world.
@donkeyboy585
@donkeyboy585 3 года назад
At 2:40 note Frank Zappa driving a trolly
@DanEBoyd
@DanEBoyd 3 года назад
I thought it was my 9th grade English teacher, Mr. Landis, from Northmont!
@soulprovidermusic5647
@soulprovidermusic5647 3 года назад
Actually that guy is an immigrant musician from the Middle East, Sheikh Yerbouti...
@hootinouts
@hootinouts 2 года назад
Ah yes! The many underground tunnels of Philthydelphia. I used the SEPTIC (SEPTA) system lots; more than I care to remember. Rode the Broad Street subway from the Oregon Avenue station to the Walnut-Locust station for two years and hated every minute of it. The cars at the time were built like boxcars, they jerked all over the place, the windows would be stuck open and the sound was deafening as the train roared through the tunnels with wheel screeching. The smell of urine prevailed in all the stations. I felt like I needed to be decontaminated after having used the subway. There were stops like Lombard-South and Ellsworth-Federal that were dimly lit and dirty. I had to use Ellsworth-Federal for several months while I was working in a machine shop. If I had to work late, I'd take my huge adjustable wrench and a hardhat home with me in case someone tried to attack me. If they did, I would have bashed their head in with that wrench. Nobody ever bothered me. I do not miss that city one bit. It is dirty, corrupt, and ridden with crime. It is a genuine cesspool. Glad I was able to get out of there.
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
The whole city has a I don’t care vibe to it. It’s part of growing up in Philadelphia don’t pay attention to anything if you’re not threatened.
@raha1277
@raha1277 3 года назад
Wow couldn't have found more horrible pic of Philly haha, I live in Boston but ive spent a lot of time in Philly and a lot of it is beautiful.
@dtvjho
@dtvjho 2 года назад
The far northeast is almost suburban.
@blue9multimediagroup
@blue9multimediagroup 2 года назад
Broadway Street Line? Who is researching this stuff? Please stop. So many errors in this video, we can't watch this any further.
@Poisson4147
@Poisson4147 Год назад
They did another one that talks about the "Skee-cale" River! 🤮
@JackBWatkins
@JackBWatkins 3 года назад
Graffiti first appeared in the 1960’s when our under ground ancestors had just discovered spray paint. Do you think we may someday find evidence of early man tagging these ancient passages.
@Phills69
@Phills69 Месяц назад
Why not make it an underground BIKE LANE!!! If you want “protected bike lanes”, here’s your opportunity!!!
@dtvjho
@dtvjho 2 года назад
5:39 Broadway? That's in NYC 😉
@lallyoisin
@lallyoisin 3 года назад
How can it be that maps or photos are not attainable of the underground? City council doesn't have a plan of the city? No archives? Perhaps they should look into a different career path. Undertaker maybe as they seem to like things buried.
@deejayimm
@deejayimm 2 года назад
The people that worked under there to build all of that structure and lay all of that tile, are nameless laborers. I hate graffiti because the people who do it think they're artists, while covering up the life's work of people who actually built things, and did something with their lives. Yeah, some of that graffiti is really well done, and some of those people could be artists. But they're disrespecting the reults of the blood, and sweat of generations of hard-working people in order to do it.
@Poisson4147
@Poisson4147 Год назад
When I went to school at Temple U. in the '70s some of the neighborhood groups would hire graffiti taggers to paint murals instead of just tagging. It was a triple win - the buildings were repainted, the taggers had a non-destructive outlet, AND word got around to other taggers that the murals were off-limits. So of course the program was stopped.
@annoythedonkey
@annoythedonkey 3 года назад
How much do you want to get some old man who built the tunnels is living in an abandoned part where he has power, water, and is able to get in and out only when he needs to?
@ladyhonor822
@ladyhonor822 Год назад
Are you absolutely positive? Did you walk it? Philadelphia USA ❤️
@bigmountain7561
@bigmountain7561 Год назад
Remember Edmund Bacon is Kevin Bacon’s Dad!!!
@braccoz
@braccoz 3 года назад
Absolutely loving this forgotton underground tunnel "series"
@LaurieValdez-zk3dy
@LaurieValdez-zk3dy Месяц назад
Thanks GOD BLESS EVERYONE ALWAYS Philadelphia USA 🇺🇸
@fingers215
@fingers215 3 года назад
You can still get down there but be careful you won't be alone
@warriorforchrist7227
@warriorforchrist7227 2 года назад
wowzers, now the gallery is called "the fashion district" , i had no idea that the gallery was in 1976 wowzers.
@A_10_PaAng_111
@A_10_PaAng_111 3 года назад
Philadelphia Born and raised. Excellent video!
@lorrainedubzak6654
@lorrainedubzak6654 2 года назад
Please get it right it’s Broad street not Broadway 😡 A few years ago I walked some of those tunnels.. when they were cleaned it was a great place to walk to get out of the weather.
@phillydee1004
@phillydee1004 2 года назад
I live in Philadelphia and the history and tourist attractions are great but the gun violence must stop and greedy developers running up rent and housing prices
@personalfunfest
@personalfunfest 3 года назад
as a kid we used these to escape the rain... they were so fast you could get anywhere downtown without dealing with rain. But they were disgusting... nasty tile, bum pee... The borth concourse seems to always been closed... the spur always interested me... seeing a "dead" subway station was always fascinating... gallery is now defunct... Amazon now
@pirellisuperhard
@pirellisuperhard 2 года назад
The Gallery isn't "defunct" - it's been rehabilitated into what they called the Fashion District. Not sure when you were last in there but visually it looks nice, like any other shopping mall in the area. Could use some more stores though. There are a TON of empty spaces. I love that it's there. A brand new Giant Heirloom grocery store just opened at 8th and Market. I am able to walk two blocks, get on the Broad St Line, ride up to City Hall, switch to the El, and ride over to either 11th (cross over the tracks and enter The Gallery, I refuse to call it FD) and walk its length and access this store without going back outside. Haven't tried it yet, but I think I can go downstairs at the Giant and get on the El at 8th for the return trip, but I will usually just go outside, walk over to 12th and get the 45 bus.
@Railoffroader2
@Railoffroader2 2 года назад
2 operating lines is considered an “expansive subway network”? 1:07 🤔🤭
@Joey-vw1id
@Joey-vw1id 2 года назад
If you ever come to Philadelphia look me up and I will walk you through the tunnels
@bdub215
@bdub215 3 года назад
There’s also a fallout shelter somewhere downtown as well
@stefanhoimes
@stefanhoimes 2 года назад
There's still signs for it at City Hall. I believe on the south portal.
@matthewburden9403
@matthewburden9403 2 года назад
I remember walking the tunnel from City Hall to Race Street on the Monday morning on my way to take my oath at the US Coast Guard recruiting office topside at Broad & Race - then off to Cape May. The Broad/Ridge Spur is a part of that line you refer to as the loop and does terminate at 18th & Locust with PATCO using that part of the line from 8th & Market since about 1960 some thirty-years after it was built. The complete loop back to Broad & Fairmount was not completed due to political reasons. Do not forget to mention the abandoned sections of completed subway along Arch east of Broad starting at 9th. I am not sure if there is a tunnel block north of City Hall eastward to the southeast corner but I remember using that to access Wanamaker's on rainy days or venture eastward as far as 11th & Market while slipping into the Gallery and make your way as far as 8th to catch either the El or PATCO; the concourse extends southward to Lombard and crosses at Locust to extend on PATCO property to 9th and 16th under Locust, which was suppose to be the south tunnel of the so-called loop. From any point on this description, one could also walk as far as 18th and John F. Kennedy Blvd while accessing most of the major buildings underground - can't do that in New York.
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
You are so right can’t do that in NY
@jerrynorm9631
@jerrynorm9631 2 года назад
You left out the north east it run half way up the Blvd they are still thinking about opening up but how
@thomasjamison2050
@thomasjamison2050 3 года назад
I always found the Philly subway to be spooky, and not so much in a ghostly way. Part of the problem is that unlike in NYC, where I was almost always very comfortable on the subway, the percentage of the people in the city that ride the subway is a very small fraction. Also there are lots of nooks and crannies where one could be pushed out of the view down the tunnel and easily robbed or worse. I would add I would never, ever use a public bathroom on the NYC subway for the same reason, and I have actually seen someone mugged in that way in NYC. Well, I didn't actually see it, just saw the victim go, saw the mugger follow and very quickly come out looking through a wallet. I was on the opposite side at the time. Anyway, Philly is spooky underground, but a very nice place to walk around above ground. Take the trolley. And of course, 'you cant' get to Frankfurt on the Frankfurt el, because the Frankfurt el goes straight to.......Frankfurt.
@ultimatevixn
@ultimatevixn 3 года назад
its called Frankford!
@mindaltering
@mindaltering 2 года назад
Its not lit up as much as it should be IMO, I've road it a few times but honestly like you said majority of the citizens do not use it. the reason behind that is how it only covers center city and you end up transferring to get out of center city onto above ground lines to reach other parts of the city.
@matthewburden9403
@matthewburden9403 2 года назад
Frankfurt - Frankford - - call it what you like for being a Philadelphian I am not offended and, as I always advocated extending the Philadelphia subway especially in highly congestive areas such as in University City with a line extending to the UofP hospital area or extend the Broad Street line into the Naval Yard complex. Back in the 60's it was proposed to extend the PATCO line from 18th & Locust straight to the Civic Center located there at the time but was never done because of funding and opposition of Locust Street residence. Philadelphia politicians have always been ignorant to the concept, If you build it - they will come, that is typically seen in your town of New York with extending the no. 7 line to accommodate Hudson Yards and with the new Second Avenue Line which is dwarfed by what is now being done in London and Paris. Amsterdam was in decay until they rebuilt Schiphol Airport. They continue to fabricate marginal infrastructure projects while trying to pass Philadelphia on as a world-class city.
@myfirstcrappyvideobilly
@myfirstcrappyvideobilly 2 года назад
Oh like people being actively killed?
@thomasjamison2050
@thomasjamison2050 2 года назад
@@matthewburden9403 Detroit never quite managed to destroy NYC public transportation as it has done in so many other cities. And Philly is not really big enough for the big leagues. Close, just not quite. Big enough to be difficult to get around though. I live in Providence RI these days and compared to Philly it's in the Goldy Locks zone. Just big enough to feel a bit like a real city, but small enough to offer almost no real inconvenience. No local trains other than AMTRAK, but a fairly functional bus system that one can use to get most anywhere in the area. However, it's much easier to drive and there is virtually no parking issues anywhere except for a few blocks in the very middle of town.
@erin19030
@erin19030 7 месяцев назад
I walked those concourses every day for 10 years armed. However no one ever bothered me. In fact I saved the lives of two elderly men just being there when they needed help after they were attacked.
@themagus5906
@themagus5906 25 дней назад
I was a private sec man in Boston in 1982. We used to walk the Mass Ave tunnel every night between Mass General and the nurses' dorms. It was very scary. We used to make a lot of noise by banging our nightsticks as we walked along slowly, to let the bums know we were coming. Otherwise some might become violent if surprised, and attack us. When I worked Logan Airport people used to sit next to me on the trains because I was in uniform. Those were the days when I was young, bold and oftimes stupid.
@robloxcolorcubesfan9217
@robloxcolorcubesfan9217 3 года назад
I actually live in this city!
@robloxcolorcubesfan9217
@robloxcolorcubesfan9217 2 года назад
@M why?
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
Me also born in a hurricane in the fifties on Market street coming in hot
@rosalyruiz1
@rosalyruiz1 3 года назад
I never owned an umbrella while I lived in Philly...😎
@positively_broad_st3780
@positively_broad_st3780 3 года назад
Well, it is always sunny in Philadelphia...
@CeeceeDavis
@CeeceeDavis 2 года назад
I lived in my uncles great aunties house in south west philly on 54 n trinity , in the basement on 54 n trinity there was a OLD tunnel /door way that we did not know what was at the end it was actually a dead in but I’m sure if the wall that was about 20 feet inside the door way was torn down that tunnel would just keep going
@JOHNSTIER23
@JOHNSTIER23 2 года назад
Nasty
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
Fifty fourth and trinity is a wild neighborhood
@joewalsh5876
@joewalsh5876 2 года назад
Please do not glorify graffiti as art. It is ugly vandalism wherever it is perpetrated.
@anonymousperson8487
@anonymousperson8487 2 года назад
Leftist artwork
@inr63
@inr63 Год назад
Love going into the comments to read all of the memories of so many different people
@paleghost
@paleghost 2 года назад
The graffiti was a big deal in Philly long before the 80s. In the early 70s the biggest tagger as 'CHEWY'.
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
Chewy was way after cornbread and Earl
@Mobaybeauty
@Mobaybeauty 3 года назад
Loved how he hit it on the nail with "Killadelphia". That's what we call it... and yes I live here so I can say it. 😫
@blutpzbutterfly4868
@blutpzbutterfly4868 2 года назад
Such an old Nickname for the City! I no longer live there but it’s my home town! Graduated from “Brook” and this video is a spark of nostalgia for me. The city has definitely changed and NOT for the better.
@RennySuo
@RennySuo 3 года назад
Someway, somehow, me and some friends managed to make our way from the bsl to the trolleys and not pay a dime. One of my friends knew the way, but I was just following. When getting off of the bsl I just follow the crowd to get to the el. There might be abandoned tunnels, but maybe showing something about the tunnels today can give people just how massive they are. Then they’d be able to understand just how much more there could be. Naming streets meant nothing to me, even though I could probably picture in my mind the streets mentioned. This is a good attempt, but philly is so robust, that even making a video about this small piece of philly feels not enough
@ShardNetwork
@ShardNetwork 2 года назад
15th ST/City Hall station has a free interchange between the BSL/Blue Line/Green Line. Gates and turnstyles keep you out without paying, but not between them.
@johndor8772
@johndor8772 Год назад
@@ShardNetwork you know it
@artmarquez9140
@artmarquez9140 3 года назад
Philly should have zero homeless
@dahliajaynemusic
@dahliajaynemusic Год назад
This is so interesting! My boyfriend used to explore the tunnels and sewer system under his town in Indiana. He loves tunnels, so I've got to show him this!
@serpentkrusher7778
@serpentkrusher7778 Год назад
I'd still be in those tunnels if it wasn't for you😏
@dahliajaynemusic
@dahliajaynemusic Год назад
@@serpentkrusher7778 😏
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