I'm certain the acoustics of mountains and ravines shaped the development of these languages. I wonder if anyone has studied the properties of these languages from a geographic deterministic point of view.
Tashi delek! Thank you for sharing this video, loved it! Unfortunately, your editing tool didn´t allow Tibetan words to manifest in the right ways, so here are the examples you used in the video: 11:49 - བཀྲ་ཤིས་བདེ་ལེགས། 12:38 - སུམ་རྟགས 12:48 - ཁོང་བོད་པ་རེད། 12:57 - བོད་ལ་ཁོང་ཡོད་རེད། 14:20 - བོད་ལ་ཁོང་འདུག། 14:37 - ཡོད་རེད་ 15:21 - fire མེ་ Greetings Drukmo Gyal
And འདུག for 'tuk (the auxiliary) There is also some debate about whether Tibetan was originally monosyllabic. The prefix consonant clusters may have been (sesqui-)syllables at one point.
I have a book on Old Tibetan that I got from my linguistics program, and they genuinely are such an incredible, albeit very complex, language family. It’s gorgeous to listen to, and has such a wonderful bouncy sound to them haha.
@@tenzindolma2253 I agree with you. In February 1951, three and a half years after the British Raj has left the subcontinent and India was created, India finally trekked up to Tawang, South Tibet and annexed it. The Tibetan Lhasa government protested to India but to no avail. Tawang is the birthplace of the Sixth Dalai Lama and home to the four hundred years old Tawang Monastery. In 1987 India renamed South Tibet to the so-called Arunachal Pradesh and make it a state. Today after seven decades of thuggish Indian rule, South Tibet is restless and India knows it. India reacted by imposing the draconian AFSPA on South Tibet. AFSPA (Armed Force Special Power Act) gives the Indian state the power to detain or killed anyone with impunity. It is a law design to intimidate the local people. AFSPA is imposed on area India deemed 'disturbed', such as South Tibet and Kashmir. Free South Tibet from India.
The biggest beneficiary of Tibet's independence is the United States, while the biggest victim is Tibet itself. He will lose transfer payments from China, become poor, and then be used as an insignificant pawn by the United States in dividing and controlling East Asia.
It took about 300 years to develop Tibetan language because Tibetan emperors was sending Tibetans to study Bhuddhist hybrid Sanskrit in Bhuddhist universities like Nalanda in India. Whole Central administration was involved in this project and there used to be a seperate translation department which includes Bhuddhist scholar from India and Tibetan scholar trained in Bhuddhist hybrid Sanskrit. 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks Juli. I was the one who suggested to research Tibetan for a future video, and I am very pleased with your outcome. I learned many things, and I believe I was right about Tibetan being such and interesting, and fairly unknown language and culture. There is also a long literary tradition (the Epic of Gesar for example) and a lot of untranslated manuscripts. So even such a broad video still leaves a lot of more interesting things to discover. I hope you had as much fun doing it as I did watching it.
As a Burmese, I love Tibetan language because it's easiest for me after Burmese dialects outside Myanmar. I can understand "Nga" I,me, "Nga tso" we, "re'' is and basic original words like eat,leg,cry,is,you,fire,hand, grandfather, male,....
Trust me you will have a much easier time understanding north East Indian languages, Naga, Mizo, etc. Tibetan would be the hardest for you in actuality.
First of all. Thank you very much for your effort on this Topic. I am an exile Tibetan and writer in Tibetan language. Here you shared a views on Tibetan language which is generally common Tibetan people’s view. I am not against this. But, if we looked deeply into Tibetan Grammar system and pronunciation of Tibetans and the area where Tibetan language and scripture using on daily basis or for Tibetan Buddhism. Here you can find just some dialects through the history of Tibet. Which is divided into Tibetan farmer languages and Tibetan nomads languages. Through the years of my knowledge. There are no Kham, Amdo and Utsang languages. Because those names are base on area. Not based on language. I mean, base on your view, you can find Amdo language in Bhutan and Utsang.
I'm from Baltistan which was a part of Tibbat in past . We speaks Balti language which is the branch of tibetan language . I will like to visit Tibbat their culture language and areas looks like us
བཀྲ་ཤིས་བདེ་ལེགས། Juley😊 Incredible་vlog 👌💖 We speak Ladakhi. We called it Bhoti. I can understand U Tsang & Khams spoken language but Amdo is quite difficult to understand.
One can't say, concerning Tibetan in Tibet, but the language won't disappear completely since it's spoken in many other places: Ladakh, Sikkim, Zanskar, Bhutan etc, which don't belong to China.
@@gerald-dw7vp Those languages are not Tibetan, even though they belong to the same group of Tibetic Languages. The only Tibetan outside China is spoken among TIbetan diaspora in India and in the West.
@@Ranjul_kumar All Tibetic languages are only so far close to Old Tibetan. E.g. Ladaks retains the pronunciation of second suffix -s but does not retain initial consonant clusters. Amdo Tibetan and Balti retain the pronunciation of initial consonant clusters but do not retain -s. They are called languages and considered a language family by linguists. ‘Dialect’ is usually a political term used to belittle languages other than the one considered to be prestigious.
Tibet is a fascinating place... would love to visit one day... and also Mongolia... where the magic is strong - Tibetan script has to be one of the most beautiful scripts we as a human species have
Very cool. I learned a lot. Please note there are quite a few spelling errors in the Tibetan graphics where the vowels are misplaced. For example the “naro” should be over the Ba not the Da in the word for Tibet བོད་. There are others as well. Otherwise great content thank you!
It is interesting how humans have developed different sounds to convey thought . Just taking one sound to convey the greeting , " hello " , and putting that sound , back to back , on an audio stream of every known language would be interesting to and quite possibly sound like a forest full of birds. Thanks for the share mystic woman ! :O)
As a Basque I'm pleased to see that Juli has so much appreciation for my language :D I was shocked to learn that Tibetan also has the ergative case, although the language theory she explained (the worldwide Dene-Caucasian language family) doesn't have much consensus among linguists and remains a marginal theory.
Aye ; the fact that ergative exists in 2 languages doesn't mean they are related in any way. There are languages that are related and some have the ergative and others don't... Afaik Tibetan and Chinese are related, Tibetan has the ergative, not Chinese (anymore). Kurdish has ergative, not Persian, while they are related. Hindi has ergative, not Sanskrit (its ancestor !), etc...
I am from Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan. I am Balti and we use the same script when writing the Balti language. Its amazing to see how widely used the Tibetan script is.
I loved the sound of the Amado variant, perhaps because of the strong consonant clusters. I found it curious that at times the phonetics reminded me of a mixture of Japanese and Turkish.
@@sonam1959_ Oirats are Mongolian, i doubt that Tibetans from Aldo had close contact with Uygurs(maybe Yellow Uyghurs « Yugur » people who live there near Kokonor) But there are definitely Oirat Mongolian people living there, they belong to Khoshuud tribe also they are known as Deed Mongols(Upper Mongols).
Excellent your lecture Julingo👏👏👏, it is a complete work, and your eyes keep me so attentive, I would like to learn right now Tibetan language👍🏼❗️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️
I'm Indian and I've observed that in spite of the strong Indian cultural influence on Tibet and the use of Sanskrit in Tibetan Buddhism there are surprisingly few Sanskrit loanwords in Tibetan itself. Most Buddhist concepts were probably translated into Tibetan rather than adopted directly from Sanskrit. Either ways it is fascinating.
Tibetan language is the richest language on Buddhist literature or philosophy in the world. So, if someone wants to learn complete Buddhism, Tibetan language is the one to go for. It is totally different from Chinese which is pictographic language. Tibetan language is one of the proofs that Tibet was an independent country for millennia.
If that is the case India should give independence to Nagaland manipur they have their own language and writings and free Tamil Nadu because they speak and write their own language😂
Tibet had its own National Flag, currency, passport, money, Army, post office , international treaties & very rich language & culture before the Chinese invasion in 1959. That's why Tibet has the right & deserves to be an independent country. Nagaland & Manipur don't have all these, they were just a hunting tribe until Christian missionaries converted them into christian in 1900s
@Kyi_Kyi Native Americans, Hawaiians and Aboriginal Australians also had their own cultures, religions and languages before Europeans came. They should also be independent...
@Kyi_Kyi You are mistaken about Manipur, they did have their own religion called Sanamahism and their own writing script, don't spread false information...
Speaking about the poetic nature of the language, Tibetan poetic culture is derived from Indian (Sanskrit), classic Sanskrit treatises on poetry like Kāvyādarśa are well known and studied in Tibetan monasteries, and while not many Tibetan lamas currently know Sanskrit, practically all of them can write poetry (also due to the isolating nature of Tibetan and lack of short and long vowel distinction it is much easier than writing Sanskrit poetry). And of course, all traditional Sanskrit metaphors are well known in the Tibetan culture.
@@sankettt Sanskrit is a literary standard. Of course it was based on spoken language around the time when the standard was formed. Much earlier than Pali though 🙃
@@damian_madmansnest go and first search for the meaning of the name sanskrit. sanskrit means refined or perfected. so from which language it is refined? or perfected? It is the Pali language from which it has refined and perfected.
@@sankettt Please don’t insult my intelligence by presuming I don’t know the meaning of the term ‘Sanskrit’ or the history of its development. Pali is a Middle Indo-Aryan language extant from 3rd century BC when it was spoken. The earliest Sanskrit is Vedic Sanskrit which was codified in 17th century BC, about 1400 years before Pali. Therefore, the spoken language that Sanskrit was based on (‘refined’ from) could not have been Pali, but it’s much earlier predecessor.
@@damian_madmansnest sanskrit is no older than BC. translate and watch this video if you can👇 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sKMf8W7P6zQ.htmlsi=YqjS--HnfLww_O-C by the way are you a foreigner or indian?
Thank you Julie!🤗 I can't wait to study Tibetan. I feel it is important because it needs to continue to exist. Right now I am in Nepal visiting my Newari friend. Here they speak many languages, according to my friend. Have you ever done a video about Newari? If yes I say to you, Jo Jo Lapa.😀
Video is really helpful for people who didn't herd about Tibetan or didn't herd too much. Ortography is really complicated even for native speakers sometimes :D The main problem with ortography in your video is that vowel mark should be placed upper (ghigu, drengbo, naaro) or below (shyabkyu) the root letter. It is very important. For example in your sentence it should looks like that: བོད་ལ་ཁོང་ཡོད་རེད། I saw that you speak "yod-re". The important point is that all prefixes and some suffixes ("da", "sa" and of course the 2nd suffix "sa") are silent, but they could change pronounciation of the vowel - suffix letters "da", "na", "la", "sa" change "a" to "ä", "o" to "ö" and "u" to "ü". So yod.red should be pronounced as "yö-re". Prefix (ALWAYS) or head letter (sometimes) make root letter stronger . Because basically "ga" is more like "ka" with lower tone, only with preffix it becames GA like in word "bGu" (pronounced as GU) - nine. Subscirbed letters (mainly "added ya" and "added ra") could change pronounciation of some root letters. Also there is one difficult matter about tibetan - spelling. But is useless unless you wouldn't like to learn classical tibetan or try to communicate with native speakers. Tibetan ortography hasn't changed for ages, but modern colloqiual grammar is very different from the classical one. For me the classical one sometimes is more simple...
ས in ཁམས་ is silent, therefore, Kham. Kham can be distinguished from Lhasa TIbetan mostly by vowel changes. A /ɒ/, like in Hungarian, while o is /ʌ/. Also vocabulary in Kham is closer to Amdo than to Lhasa. Usually, Kham speakers have the least problem understanding both Amdo and Lhasa Tibetan. The hardest is Amdo Tibetan for Lhasa speakers.
I'm Nepali Buddhist i Believe in Tibetan mahayana Buddhism hope one day Tibet will be free from china long life his holiness 14th Dalai Lama 🙏🙏🙏om mani padme Hung 108☸#freeTibet
Tibetan consonants are quite similar to burmese.Also some monosyllabic words are the same. No wonder burmese is part of the tibetan-burman language. There are 33 consonants and 4 tones in burmese.
Amdo is actually the closest to Old Tibetan, it has preserved the basic vowel structure and pronunciation and it is non tonal. Amdo is perhaps the most similar to western and northern Khampa dialect, Nagchu dialect from northernmost Tibet bordering East Turkestan, Western Tibetan from Ngari and Ladakhi.
What a gorgeous language! Could you please do a video on Occitan? It's a language spoken from Northern Spain across the South of France into Italy. It sounds like dialect Italian with a French accent and at one time it was the most spoken language in France. It's also called Languedoc, Provençal and Occitano, a language bursting with songs and poems and folk literature.
Bonjorn! I am currently learning its 'sister language' Catalan in Barcelona, but I have also briefly been to southern France. Avignon was the most memorable city. Love and respect to Occitan ❤
@@prathameshdeshpande1668Catalan is the closest language to Occitan, I speak a bit of Catalan and when I visited Toulouse I was delighted to see that I could understand most of the written Occitan. Unfortunately hearing spoken Occitan is becoming less and less common due to the French centralist policies :(
But original Tibetans belong to y-haplogroup D, while Chinese belong to O. So the spread of agriculture doesnt really explain the reason for spread of Sino-Tibetan languages in Tibet.
I'm quite sure in China, Tibetan is outlawed for education purposes these days. Maybe 10-15 years ago it was still allowed. Tibetans are not even allowed to print any Tibetan to display publicly unless it has been authorised by the street/block local government.
Xi Jinping has forced the Tibetan to study, read and talk in Chinese in Tibet from children as young as 5 years old. The Tibetan are enrolled in govt residential school to impose this stricture. All private schools are shut down and those advocating Tibetan langauge are charged as rebels and face imprisonment. The most funny thing is China is forcing the monasteries to teach Tibetan Buddhism to Tibetan in 14:55 Chinese langauge to Tibetan by translating all the scriptures from Tibetan into Chinese. Mao Tsetung tried physically by massacre but failed. Deng Xiao Ping did by demographic aggression by populating Tibet with Chinese there by making Tibetan a minority in Tibet. Xi Jinping's language destruction seem to be more destructive than Mao and Deng's program.
Bruh tibetian text is literally in the chinese currency along with uyghur texts and mongolian among other ethnic minority languages, what bullshit are you spouting
@kekwsrequiem2517 Actually, sounds about right. China is striving to make sure all nationals' language of education is Mandarin, and their first and foremost language is Mandarin, this makes it easier for everyone to be unified on the same ideological page for a unified effort. As for Mongolian, it has been banned as language of instruction for high school in Inner Mongolia a few years ago, there was absolute outrage from ethnic Mongols. As for all things and matters in China, everything is not as simple as its inherent face value.
2:05 We called "Name" as "Ming" and "To Die" as "Siba" in Meiteilon (Manipuri) language from Northeast India🇮🇳 Meiteilon language came Tibeto-Burman family group.
How did you become so knowledgeable in Tibetan languages!! Very impressive and surprise 😮 with the stunning beautiful eyes and goddess 🌙like appearance 😉👍🙏👏 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Tibetan empire didn't disintegrate after the death of Songtsen Gampo. He was succeeded by 7 generation of emperor one of which was even more powerful than Songsten Gampo as he expanded the empire and deposed the Chinese emperor and appointed another. The 40th Lang Dharma was the last emperor as his assassination by a tantric by bow led to the slow disintegration. The slain emperor two wives divided the empire into two, it took another two hundred years to disintegrate. I am from Central Tibet. I can understand Kham very well but Amdo is quite a challenge. Tibetan living on the border have more similarity in terms of langauge and culture on the other side of border in Nepal and India than the central Tibet such as Lhasa. The border areas have still more archiac than Lhasa as later has changed much, For instance grandfather is called Mey in border areas of Himalaya where as in central Tibet is Popo. Meypo has instead become only written languages meaning ancestors. A number of errors are there on Tibetan script on your presentation such as for Tibet བོད་ not བདོ་ vovels are misplaced.
