The timbre in the voice of the Denon is much more realistic the Accuphase completely glazes over the deeper notes especially on the "come on lets walk around" 👌🏾
I wasn't thinking about getting Denon, but you really tickled my thoughts about getting one. I purchased PMA1700NE, and now I am over the moon about how it turned out well. I also have B&W 706 S2, and in my opinion, it's just a pure joy listening to the music. Not less important, it looks beautiful (silver), even more in real. Cheers!
Accuphase is so smoooooth! Denon sounds nice, there is a warm bloom from it on these speakers. Accuphase while being more accurate is still smooth and easy to listen to.
Such huge difference! The Accu has much more of a honky and offset tone on the voices which is really strange. I strongly suspect an impedance mismatch in the phonostage(s) or different RIAA curves are used in the accu and the denon. Ideally, when comparing integrateds you'd want to use a dedicated phonostage that is correctly matched for your MC cart impedance and feed the line input of the amp(s) you're comparing. Otherwise, you're just comparing phono stages.
I honestly didn't expect Denon to ever beat Accuphase, but it seems I was sorely mistaken. Accuphase, on the other hand, sounds good on 4 ohm speakers. Anyway, it is good to know that from Denon there are only 2-3 models that sound like an amplifier should really sound, and here I mean from this model up to the SX1 Limited Edition.
The Accuphase looks nice to me. Would never have thought to compare it to a Denon. A Luxman seems a more appropriate comparison. You repeatedly mentioned the Denon's built in phono preamp, but a phono pre appropriate for your beautiful turntable would not cost much (a Gold Note PH10 would be overkill, but even that only costs $1,500). Thanks for sharing.
Flawless comparison. Very focused and precise. I tend to lean towards the Denon. That accuphase is great. I’ve seen other reviews but that price is too much for the accuphase. Yes the laws of diminishing apply to it. I myself prefer detail so the accuphase would be my choice if money was not an issue . That’s why I usually overall prefer Yamaha’s integrated. They are very detailed, natural/flat sounding without much coloration.
You came to your conclusions through google lossy audio compression and his phone microphone? Was sufficient he moved himself in the room to change the sound acoustically more than any electronics would
@@TharbamarWe have all made mistakes like this in hifi, but, you have made a purchase mistake with the Accuphase since you already had this masterpiece bang 4 buck Denon. If you didn't have this Denon, it's a different story. As many others have pointed out repeatedly on your comments, the Accuphase sounds worse at twice the price. Whomever designed this Denon is a genius. If you care more about looks, yes, the Accuphase wins, no question there.
@@cosdeep9934 That is what you think but not me, are they commenting based on personal experience? probably no one listen to them back to back in their system like I have, I don't made mistakes nor care of what others think since I clearly know what I like. I also don't appreciate your opinion since you don't even listen to what I said in the video because I clearly stated I like the look of SX-11, never care for the meters.
I don’t know if the microphones are a bit overloaded by the Accuphase, but the Accuphase sound is a bit chesty, raspy and the mids are a bit deflated like there’s a small loss of meat in the mids compared to Denon. Also the highs are a bit too metallic with the Accuphase. Denon sounds more organic from top to bottom. For me Denon is a better sound signature! Great review !!!! 😊
Thanks for the recordings, to me the Accuphase has a sweeter midrange with more vocal weight, and a little more shimmer in the treble. Denon by comparison feels a little drier and more flat. Accuphase gets my vote.
the drier sound you mention to me is the air like tube sound and I love it!! Denon PMA SX11 is the best amp Denon ever made...and only to Japan 😮...its a GEM to me...something not many in the rest of the world outside Japan even has! collectible...I've seen a couple left In Japan + shipping...air = tube sound Class A over just A/B of the Accuphase😂
thanks @@briancampbell7712 i think the name of the game here is you can’t go wrong with well made Japanese gear as the build quality inspires pride of ownership, and as you imply buying from Japan offers better selection and often lower prices. I was talking to a repair tech who said Accuphase is good for 40 years, that’s nuts! While your Panasonic VCR, Apple iic, and NES from 1985 decompose in a landfill, the Accuphase and Denon integrateds are soldiering on.
Denon more musical mids slight roll off highs. It has subtlety. Accu more lively, 3d, inner detail,more sparkle, air. It will depend on price and preference. Denon seem to be more bang for the buck.
I like the air from the Denon...that amp is a collectable...very hard to obtain these days unless you're lucky to find one in Japan and have shipped...I'd never get rid of it!!! wow😮...Class A sounds so smooth...the Accuphase class A/B isn't even close to the airy, tube like sound from the Denon...OMG...your ears are failing you if you think the Accphase is better🤪the SX-11 sounds beautiful with any! speakers🎶🎶If I didn't already have the Vincent SV-737 hybrid class A- A/B 4ohm 2x300 I'd be glad to buy your Denon and have it shipped to me...I think It's the one of the BEST intigrated Amps available...Japan was only keeping this for there country and not sold anywhere else...that's why the power input was only designed for Japan...although like you a transformer can be easily purched...Don't do this...I'll be sad to watch your videos without this amp! amazing how at or under half the price, the Denon PMA SX11 is far superior in sound quality over the Accuphase...I get Ear fatigue with just this video of the Accuphase...
Hello, sorry to say I prefer the Denon: Fluid, natural, vivid, foot taping, extended trebles. Accuphage is too much in the control, too school, less extended in term of bandwith. Having said that this is though youtube and both sounds great anyway. Very nice video, thanks for that 😉
Assuming that both system is operated at the same volume,I like the matching of Denon and Tad’s, there is a little more weight to the sound esp.the vocals( listener’s perception). I like the Accuphase too, the way it looks with meters moving , makes the experience more enjoyable.Otherwise if not listening keenly, you would not know the difference.Peace!
Listened through my BW P7 wired. It's surprising how the sound of the intro guitar is so different from one amp to the other. After several times going back and forth, I think the Acc is more "hifi", in the sense that there are details that seem to be missing with the Denon. From a strictly musicality perspective, I think they're both equally enjoyable, although I think people who like details may be more satisfied with the Acc.
I have the SX-11. I listen to it through Aerial Acoustics 7B speakers and am VERY happy with its performance. I like its ability to control bass and deliver it with authority and ample headroom. The Aerial Acoustics 7B's are 4 ohm speakers and the SX-11 drives them to the fullest of their ability without any problem. I had an Accuphase E-408 before and the SX-11 is noticeably better and more dynamic. Of course the E-408 is several generations behind the E4000. The phono section is excellent too on the SX-11. When you factor in the price differences, it's a no brainer for me to go with the SX-11.
Exactly I would like to know too; what is the suggested retail price? I have the Marantz Reference Integrated PM 11S3 and the phono stage is great; I use it with the Martin Logan 13A ESL would the Denon be an improvement?
@@mahasidha9 I honestly do not know what the Japan retail price is. I had to pay close to $4,000 for mine which was new in the factory sealed packging.. I also cannot offer an opinion as it pertains to comparing the Marantz PM-11S3 as I have never owned one.
The music does not need a sweet color (Accuphase) it is beautiful on its own. The correct one is what is in the original writing😉My vote goes to Denon😋😎
Blind test here - I like the first demo more. There is a better optimal balance between deepness and richness of the music. The second one has deeper sound аnd better HF but there is a gap between the HF and the overal music for me,there's something i'm missing. Maybe it depends on the acoustic of the room by the record or my barbarian ears don't now. Happy listening 😊
accuphase is thicker more mature/older/warmer feeling, the denon is more lively or cleaner, i guess the treble in the denon is more extended. I understand why you said when you paired with warm speaker would get boring
If damping factor is so important to you maybe you should try Hegel amplifiers where damping factor starts from 2000!! Hegel h590 has 4000 damping factor
The brain loves novelty, sometime a change just seems better. The Accuphase is smoking in the looks department. It’s not better looking than the Denon , just a different look. The Accuphase is a heirloom product.
@@Tharbamar I enjoy your reviews. I did not believe in cable burn-in and such until I watched one of your videos with a before-and-after sound sample. I could clearly hear the sound difference through my phone via RU-vid! I still have a lot to learn. I understand speakers and phono cartridges needing break-in because of their physical structure but I remain mystified with cables. Danny at g&r research explained it to me but I don't remember his exact explanation and probably wrote it off as snake oil salesman propaganda. Apparently I was wrong and should have paid more attention!
please for your sake keep the Denon SX11...please do a review using the better and more powerful amp Vincent Amp SV-11 hybrid 4ohm 2x300...it's awesome...but your Denon PMA SX11 sounds perhaps better...those two would be great for side by side review
Thx for the mini shootout. There is obviously a difference between the 2 amps but nothing you can make an opinion about who's sounding the best, at least for me. I would like to know you're recording setup, as this has also to be taken in account to what we can here. I'm using Audio Technica BP4025 stereo mic for that purpose, it's fine but it doesn't really reflect the whole story :)
Este tipo de comparaciónes sólo tienen sentido si se hacen a ciegas. Son muy subjetivas si sabemos que máquina estamos escuchando. Aquí está claro que ganará el Accuphase, es una marca más "audiofila" y con más pedigri que Denon, y eso que este modelo (el Denon) es de muy alta gama. A mi casi me gusto un poco más este último, y seguramente sea hasta más barato, pero repito, estas pruebas tienen que ser a ciegas.
Great review. Quick question please. What power supply did you use in the review??? I noticed the cord was red in your video. I’m debating on getting a cheap linear power supply or the ifi power X for my Wiim.
Accuphase E-4000 the timbre is more natural and rounded, the middle is natural and detailed, at the edges of the range there is enough everywhere with clear proportions. 11 the model is not bad in itself, but there is some kind of artificiality and synthetics, the Japanese all sin this and Yamaha and Teac. This is my personal opinion. With respect.
Denon sounds better with vocals and has more body and soundstage also slightly better. And for half the price come on bro Denon has got to be the winner by miles...
How much improvement is Accuphase E 4000 over Denon PMA SX11 in your opinion?What do you get going from Denon too E4000.I have Denon PMA A-110 Anniversery. What is better with Accuphase E4000 would you say?
About 10-15% improvements going from SX-11 to E-4000, A-110 is rebadge PMA-2500NE with better parts (see my old post on channel community page) another important point Accuphase is made upmost care and quality control. Sound is subjective by persons.
Здравствуйте! Как считаете на сколько хорош родной силовой (сетевой) кабель усилителя denon pma SX 11? Способен ли он полноценно раскрыть весь потенциал этого усилителя? Как считаете есть ли смысл ставить силовые серебряные кабеля (в частности 2.5кв) с тефлоновым изолятором.
I really wanted to say that they were close…but I can not. The Denon sounds great but to my ears it lacks the versatility, depth of staging, refinement in voicing that I hear in the Accuphase. Again, to me, it feels as if the Accuphase is just giving us the appetizer in this A/B test. I’d love to hear these two go head to head driving a pair of Fleetwood Deville SQ’s, Magico A3’s or Sonus Faber Maxima Amator. It is my impression that the Accuphase has more inherent musicality and adaptability both to the stlye of music but also the power needs (and quirks) of multiple speakers where as the Denon may be more or less baffled at how to translate the music to a variety of speakers.
Denon class A sound better , than class AB . I prefer a preamp class A with 3 stereo power amp class D . Crossover of the speakers is what really made a lot difference in sound quality, you change a crossover from 1300 hz to 1000 hz and is like spending 10000 dls . Cables do not made any change , use 12 awg or 10 awg solid wire . Those jbl need boxes of 130 to 220 liters to really sound good .
@@Tharbamar you have friends in Japan so you could probably find them... impossible for the normal person to obtain...as you know, they're just very very rare nowadays...and since they are several years old...if they were not kept in the perfect climate they could show signs of oxidation inside...🤔... but I think it could be an endgame for most people for many years...
Another great video. I recall some time back you went through an exercise to select your replacement int. amplifier. Finally you settled on Denon. What was the sound signature of Denon that won you over vs Yamaha, Marantz? Thanks
Скажите пожалуйста, как на Ваш взгляд, сможет ли Denon pma sx 11 хорошо сочетаться с акустическими системами закрытого типа (без фазоинвертора) например такими,как Yamaha NS 1000x? Достаточно ли хороший бас способен выдавать данный аппарат, на малой громкости в частности? С уважением, Сергей.
@@Tharbamar Hmm, it depends on which Class D to which class AB, isn't it? I am confused now. I replaced my NAD C338 with Denon PMA 1700NE, and I am blown away by the difference. I wasn't even sure if it pays out to replace NAD because I was really happy with it, and I still think it's amazing. But now, with Denon, I have the opinion that I would never go back to class D. Hmm, I don't think I will ever even need to, because I don't think I will replace PMA 1700NE any time soon. I believe you are thinking of saving money on paying electricity bills, not the sound quality, right? :) Cheers!
a bit harsh words but it is fact with the idea that they will play for leagues in hifi values. then it must be said. if you see that team Accuphase, I apologize for what I say. and i only use youtube listening to and i can hear it only it's bad. if you can do it, it shows itself very well. I had to text it, sorry.
@@Tharbamar спасибо за ответ! Да, не всегда эти оба качества хорошо проявляются,, даже в аппаратах высокого уровня! Желаю всем хорошей музыки в душе и сердце :)
@@Tharbamar Здравствуйте! Скажите пожалуйста, Вы наверняка слушали Denon SX1. Хочу узнать Ваше мнение чем отличается его звучание от SX11. В чем возможное превосходство и особенности? На сколько он лучше, как Вы думаете?)
Оба аппарата хороши, но их голоса сильно отличаются.Accuphase лучше контролирует спикеры,но менее динамичен и музыкален чем Denon. Accuphase лучше для работы со звуком, а Denon эмоционально более увлекательный.
Hegel is made in China. Nothing wrong with that. But the problem is they don not have own factory plant. They are using some no name factory somewhere in China.
@mystique, No it's Made by Opera Audio. Only problem is it DOES NOT SAYS WHERE is MADE on the product, I tried H590 a few years back. People talk about how Accuphase, Luxman, Mcintosh were overpriced, that H590 was ripped-off for me. People should buy Opera Consonance Calaf MKII or AMP150 for less money.
the Accuphase makes the speakers sound as if they are in a metal barrel😂...that's fatiguing to say the least! ...more so when the strings are playing...
How do you listen? please remember you can't judge audio components entirely based on RU-vid video, please try to listen them in real world you'll see the world apart between them.
@@Tharbamar yes...true...but even if the sound quality was exact or like you say better...is it 5000 better? I would bet not...the Denon always sounded good on all your videos with any speakers...so I will stick to a lot of what i said...that Denon is a Gem and not many people are able to get a hold of one...I could order one of the few available in Japan and have it shipped...you know its the best amp Denon ever made...Japan saved those for themselves 😝
you can`t judge sound listening music over some obviouslly low end mic...this should be listen in that room with you own ears...this rtoom isn`t treated for mic recording. but after all I`m surprised that Denon has deeper more punchy low end and bass even it deosn`t have tone controls.
Plus 10% sales tax because duty free shops don’t carry them and no phony invoice so possibly additional import taxes in each country wherever you are planning to go back.
Sounds tinny and unrealistic, I will never live with such a system, it is like using a 44 gallon petrol tank unrealistic in anyway system, absolutely awful. In Short it is absolute rubbish
@@Tharbamar Tharbamar...he is so right!! you know it...I would never let any company persuade me to praise there product over something I have in my system that is very unique and much better sound quality...thats where i would draw the line...
How dare you put Accuphase and Denon in the same sentence? I'm sorry, but you seem like a person who misleads viewers. For all those who try the clips of this incompetent, please do not take him seriously. Denon is a great brand that is built very well and sounds great but the Accuphase is from a different movie. Signed by an Accuphase and Denon owner.
Both are very good Japanese amplifiers. Generally, Accuphase is a more High end brand than Denon (in terms of price), but for the sound it is really subject to personal taste. I think JBL has better matching with Denon with more engaging vocals while Accuphase is a bit too gentle
Both amplifiers are great. But the Accuphase is overpriced. There are lot of overpriced hi fi brands on the market Pass Labs, McIntosh, Mark Levinson and many more.......
From bar 1, the Accuphase has better detail, then the voice has far more emotion, with a more coherent soundstage. Denon’s good, the Accuphase legendary for good reason. Thx for the video.
Accuphase is really, really good but it's not extremely good (like the best transistor brands like Nagra, Spectral, Boulder) Funny thing is that Spectral is the cheapest of those three but sits alone at the top in performance.
