He sampled mod of samples. But seriously in Do It it sounds like it wasn't sid version, but the original amiga, sid version sounds more dirty and it would be much easier to do it without much effort, WinAmp could play formats from Protracker and Fasttracker and the fact that he owns a sid device is a false clue. Some evil force complicated this case and there was no output. But after that decade scene started its renaissance and Retrogames started their business alongside with others, all coincidentally. Could it be the output? So Tempest could be a scene's christ alongside with the government of Finland, which has brought up demoscene to the national heritage rank.
@@dogsoapI know this is another year late but he only sampled 18 seconds of a 3+ minute long song and then looped it. He got the song off of a library of public C64 made songs.
You need to realise it's not "close", it's an absolute 100% perfect match with GRG's SID version. There are some torrents going around with the sid version extracted out of the main sound through advanced techniques, and switching between sid and extracted version every 3 seconds. You cannot tell when the switches are taking place.
only the sound of the instruments makes this old, but in my opinion, the actual composition and arrangement is very new and fresh. very catchy stuff. you can see why timbo was quick to snatch this up and turn it into a hit.
@@MarielaJoyRabaraand the thing u be surprised, U CANT BE MEASURED FOR THE FUCKING HHGREG AD?, A FUCKING SONG MIXED INTO AN AD?, THR 489 HAD TAKEN OVER ABOUT A MONTHH AGO
It's not similar, it's ideantical. And because demoscene musicians release lots of music for free, they have a higher "defence" feel. It's only natural I think, that the fuzz will be big, when someone rips from a demoscener. Demoscene may be a geeky community to most people, but it is a very large group of people who would support each other.
i hope the person who made this get some credit for this. This is kind of good for a song that sounds like a SNES game. Timbo you should pay some respect for using this no matter if you didn't know who made this.
I find it amusing that to this day any rules description for any music competition at any demoscene party in any country in the world contains the phrase: "no timbaland". The guy's nickname became synonymous with plagiarism. XD
It's the latest. Unless you count some beta version. I think you are thinking of ProTracker. Or you had plain "OctaMED" not OctaMED Soundstudio.. and yes this one has oscilloscopes too for recording, but I didn't show it.
That would depend entirely on how much memory you had in your Amiga. My old A500 had 6 megabytes of Fast RAM. Normal CD quality would be 10 megs per minute, but the Amiga had 8-bit sound, not 16-bit. So, I could record a little over 1 minute of sound, in stereo at 44,100khz. You could quadruple it if you only recorded in mono, at half the rate. But, again, it depends on the amount of free memory in your Amiga.
Thats because the composer of this song " Tempest " Is or was a part of the 8-bit community, well either that or he was an 8-bit artist. 8-bit people make techish sounding music (such as this) using old outdated sound chips from home made systems or old video game systems such as Gameboy, nintendo, commodore 64, ect. Great song though, it makes me happy =D
You may have been replying to the post I removed where the guy mentioned it was 50 years old (along with other insulting things). For the record, the Amiga came out in 1985. The first Amiga, the A1000, should be able to play this .mod without problems.
The Amiga line of computers had much more advanced sound processors. The main positive about the Amiga was that it made use of samples 100% of the time, unlike the C64, which used a form of wave synthesis, which was programmable to boot. Both computers are epic for what can be done by them.
Two years later and I can say that both versions have their own perks. This Amiga version seems to do well with the stereo (which I can't hear in the C64 version, but I could be wrong) but the C64 version sounds smooth.
C64 only had mono output, so you won't hear stereo there unless it's simulated via an emulator splitting the individual tracks out. The Amiga stereo is all well and good unless you are - like myself - listening through headphones, where the extreme separation is a bit disorienting (rather like early Beatles stereo recordings) and makes the thing a bit harder to listen to coherently, as it's more like two different songs playing, one in each ear. A bit of spatial reverb processing and intermixing gives a nicer feel to it overall, but IDK if there's any physical way to mod that into an original amiga. Obviously a bit tricky with the software...
"as it's supposed to be played" Ahh, but is it?! Played on a real Amiga 1200 or 500 it would hard pan left (ch 1,4) /right (ch 2,3). This sounds average for most MODs (instrument seperation) so most tracker musicians use an external mini-mixer to do a channel sum. Any L/R panning is at users disgression. This vid sounds like approx 30/70 panning. Knowing the Assembly system (I was on the jury in '06) it was more likely to be a mono playback at the party ;-) Still awesome you capped this!
@rae5r: If one guy saves a hundres people out of a burning building, then proceeds to go home and shoot his wife, he's not a hero. He's a criminal. Just because Timbaland has helped some people get to the top in his past, doesn't mean he can just go rip someone's song off and stamp his name all over it. And even if Suni is not known at all to most people, he still made the original track and has the copyright.
This is the reason I'm not really mad at Timbaland like the other comments on here. I heard an interview and he thought this was music from an old video game, which would be perfectly acceptable to sample. But yeah, it was actually an original composition, and it would have been polite to throw the guy who made it his cut. I mean it's not like Timbaland isn't making any money.
taidgh0 exactly. It’s one thing if you’re sampling The Rolling Stones or something (they’ll be okay moneywise), but Tempest/Damage needed credit and cash for this beat
Yeah, seriously! Timbaland (or whatever he calls himself) is just trying to save face because he got caught ripping off this track. I know this happened a while ago but it still makes me rage. The original artist made such a great song!
The clicking around is to show various features of the program. Just having it sit there playing would be rather boring. As for the mouse moving fast, it's because while it's being recorded under emulation, the framerate is extremely slow. I try to move the mouse slow to compensate but what can you do ;-)
I find it a little strange that the apparent similarities to Grover Washington Jr's, Just The Two Of Us, is rarely mentioned when adressing this controversy. Just saying.
@ssonicblue They're pretty commonplace. You could find your own at a thrift store, garage sale or eBay. They're everywhere, just like their big brother the Commodore 64.
My guess is people is thumbing him down because this is a chip tune composed to mimic the sound of sound chips that cost about 10$ in the beginning of the 80:s, anyone even without any talent would be able to improve this tune by simply using better samples (and not just simple waveforms)...and yet I still find Timbaland's version worse.
ok, my comment was a little outta line. It is a full blown computer though and not merely a game console. That's what I meant to say... or was it made on the "CD32", the only Amiga-"console"?
You can't disrespect and verbally bash someone just cause they took something that had potential, didn't get in trouble, made a beautiful peice of art for Nelly's Album Loose out of it, and Nelly and Timba made really nice money off it. So, people with no lives, stop complaining about something in the past that you cannot change.
pc and amiga trackers are pretty easy to use / compose on. theres 2 main parts, the sequence window itself and the instruments/samples.. download one and mess around with one of the demo tunes, it's pretty straight forward. although the c64 trackers are tuffer to use as you can't use samples (except a digi channel) and it's only 3 channels of sound.
@MomoGasumi The only part that mirrors Just the two of us is SOME of the chord progression, that's fine, because the chord progression is not the main melody. Now if there were a part in the song that did the notes of the chorus exactly, then yeah there'd be a problem.
I don't know. If it was on the real thing, you'd have to hook up the RGB output direct into a digital recording device, to remove shimmer, aliasing, colour bleeding etc.. It's quite obvious I did this on WinUAE.. The sound gets slowly out of sync towards the end, and I have no idea why, perhaps it's an artefact of converting the audio from one format to another, and the video to 30fps per RU-vid's recommendations.
Seriously you guys argue over internet that Timbaland stole a beat which he didn't . The beat was already on the keyboard he bought which he said in a interview. At the end of the day Timbaland is still gets his bread and what are you guys going to do about it. Haha too funny
I realise PT is the 1st mod format and responsible for almost all Amiga game music. AJ Evening is more recent and probably not written with PT. I agree having it play in PT would have been cooler but, I guess I have no reason, heh. As for the audio, WinAMP plays .mod files with interpolation by default drowning out the harshness & blurring the audio. WinUAE's sound output doesn't do this unless you want it to, and RU-vid reconverts the audio to a lower bitrate & changes it mono anyway.
This is a totally awesome song, and I can't forgive Timbaland for stealing it. Just heard the offending Nelly Furtado song on the radio yesterday... I wonder if she knew about it beforehand.
@@atomicplayboy6680 well yeah lmao the label makes shit tons of money using the artists voice and name. Most of the time they have tight release schedules and artists have very little creative freedom. That’s why artists tend to go independent after a while.
I personally like this better than Timbaland's version. Anyway, what's up with thumbs downing the guy who said he preferred Timbaland's version? Even if Timbaland did steal it (which I personally believe he did), the guy still has an opinion, and he should be allowed to voice it. At least he didn't flame.