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If the 11th-generation Civic Si is great, and the more expensive Integra is built upon the same chassis with the same motor, is it worth the upgrade? The guys take a drive to assess the differences between the two cars, their competitors, and ask if the Integra's return was the right choice for Acura.
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@billm47645
@billm47645 Год назад
I bought one in the exact same spec as your car in late July. Here’s a big deciding factor. Acura dealers are more willing to sell these at MSRP. I bought mine at MSRP. Good luck at a Honda dealer trying to get an SI at MSRP. Combined with the overall better dealership experience, warranty, 3 years free app, 2 years free maintenance, loaner cars, and last but not least all the upgrades to the car, this makes this a decent buy because as of right now the “out the door” price is probably only $5 to $6K apart.
@VQ25DETT
@VQ25DETT Год назад
+ one more year of basic warranty. I've seen a lot of videos comparing this to the Si but none of them mentioned these.
@IsiahHD
@IsiahHD Год назад
I have been car shopping and saw a dealer markup on a Civic SI I looked at. So it wouldn't surprise me if you could find one of these for only "slightly" more money than a Civic SI.
@johnstout2435
@johnstout2435 Год назад
I dealer by me had a SI marked up to 43k before finally coming down to 37k.
@billm47645
@billm47645 Год назад
@@johnstout2435 Integra all day long at MSRP. If you want the CVT, you can even get a small discount.
@evanescent0311
@evanescent0311 Год назад
Same. Reasons i ordered an integra: No markup. No red interior on my build (wife hates it). Hatchback. Sound system. Sadly I kind of prefer the exterior styling Colma suspension simplicity and the linear air vent from the civic. There is no such thing as a perfect car lol
@tylergarcia2693
@tylergarcia2693 Год назад
Gotta say this is somewhat of a missed “review”. Instead of actually reviewing the car for what it has they decided to just bash it when comparing it to the civic SI. Would’ve been nice to see them actually showcase the features like the premium audio system, driving and safety features, upgraded interior area/leather and discuss the extended warranty and maintenance plans. Also based on the market you can get them for MSRP or even a little under. And the whole integra stamp they complained about is a hallmark for the integra dating back to the 90s and has been there for sometime. Is it the best deal ever? Probably not but I don’t think they did a good job displaying the car for what it is
@tsubakichan
@tsubakichan Год назад
Yeah but uncomfortable passenger seat is a pretty big complaint...
@Wnull3
@Wnull3 Год назад
Yeah this is exactly what I was thinking. The stamp is a call back to the 90's and I'm surprised these guys missed that. Jason C did a better write up on his Instagram between the two. I wish they would've talked about the current mark up on the SI And if at that price point saying the Acura isn't worth the 2k more
@fit2yougolf926
@fit2yougolf926 Год назад
Thanks for the review guys. As an Integra owner, I do get frustrated with the cherry picking comparisons. The lift back, sunroof, heated seats, added seat adjustment with memory, adjustable dampers, free maintenance, parking sensors, wireless charging and the upgraded sound system make this a more desirable choice for me. And worth the money. And I paid MSRP and prefer the styling (subjective, I know). I went from a 2019 Accord with a 6 spd manual to the Integra and could not be more pleased with the upgrade!
@johnnygoesfast9397
@johnnygoesfast9397 Год назад
Do ypu wear Dockers pants and listen to smooth jazz??? that car is more bland than vanilla. Its a huge turd family sedan and should be outcasted from any car "enthusiast" videos... this car is for those who wipe the void between their legs after a tinkle sitting down
@mistamaog
@mistamaog Год назад
I do think the tires are the reason why the Si felt much better. Also I agree with the fact that Acura should've offered SH-AWD, especially for the price that this costs.
@FrankOsman
@FrankOsman Год назад
Looked for the Civic Si, found every one local listed at $35,000+. Picking up an Integra next weekend.
@YasssStitch
@YasssStitch Год назад
One thing that's overlooked is the CVT Integra has an open diff. Only the 6MT has LSD.
@thirdpedalnirvana
@thirdpedalnirvana Год назад
As an engineer I understand why it didn't get AWD. Adding AWD to a FWD chassis that was never designed with AWD in mind is no small task. That said... these are going to start seeing rebates and discounts because $8k just for looks and a badge isn't really going to be worth it for very many people.
@jimiverson3085
@jimiverson3085 Год назад
Except that the Civic chassis is underneath the CR-V, so it has been adapted for AWD.
@ericpromisco2213
@ericpromisco2213 Год назад
The integra name is embossed on the front and rear as a throwback to the 3rd gen integra which also had the model name embossed on the front and rear bumpers. As for the car itself, it's a solid all round package but it needed more power and possibly AWD to really justify the price increase over the si. I have the feeling the type s will also share a similar problem with the FL5.
@ericssonerick6972
@ericssonerick6972 Год назад
I bought one over the SI because this one has better styling but then again beauty is subjective...adaptive suspension, amazing sound system, heads up display and of course the hatch back.
@Jorge_Magallon
@Jorge_Magallon Год назад
Great video, as always. Acura Honda is in a rough place because they are trying to sandwich the Si, Integra and TLX across a relatively close price range without cannibalizing one or another. At the same time they are competing with other manufacturers. The auto industry seems like a rough business.
@avo_fg2
@avo_fg2 Год назад
I was in the market for a 22 Si, but dealers were marking it up $5k near me. So I went with the 23 Integra at MSRP, and I absolutely love it. Great video nonetheless, you guys do make valid points if both cars were at MSRP!
@mamakd32
@mamakd32 Год назад
The old Integra also had “Integra” molded in the front bumper under the headlight
@Indifference2000
@Indifference2000 Год назад
I think if Acura offered AWD on the integra it would be Awesome!! That would differentiate it enough from the Si especially for the price difference
@jamielannoo4250
@jamielannoo4250 10 месяцев назад
Yes the Si would’ve been a good car in the US but Honda stripped it to the bone feature wise. The Integra A-Spec Tech has over the Si in the US foglights power seats heads-up display adaptive dampers ELS sound system rain sensing wipers Parking sensors Full digital dash Auto dimming rear view mirror Wi-fi cellular modem Access via your smart phone Reverse tilt side mirrors Heated seats Dual zone climate control. Rear USB ports Interior door card ambient lighting Exterior door handles illuminate as you approach car. Drivers seat auto retracts when you turn the car off. Two driver customizable seat and infotainment settings. And I’m probably missing things that I’m forgetting. It’s a ton of stuff a lot a lot of stuff. Oh let’s not forget the horn sounds way better. They always give the Acuras the big boy horn.
@anaveragehuman2937
@anaveragehuman2937 9 месяцев назад
Yup, this right here. I didn't even know about the horn haha. I'd add the hatch(!), lumbar adjust(!), individual mode, and interior color options (I like orchid). Blows me away how easily a lot of the reviewers just don't even notice the hearty helping of nice little things. Easily worth it imo, especially when considering a Sport Touring hatch is $33k and at-or-below-msrp pricing.
@gene7icspar7an20
@gene7icspar7an20 5 месяцев назад
Guys relax not every car that’s almost 40k and fwd needs awd. I don’t see how awd would make the car any better. Integra has never been awd. Perhaps it could use the SH ATTS system from the prelude or 4wheel steering.
@gabriellebains
@gabriellebains 5 месяцев назад
Your so right
@gene7icspar7an20
@gene7icspar7an20 5 месяцев назад
Finally someone who understands
@gabriellebains
@gabriellebains 5 месяцев назад
@@gene7icspar7an20 a dying breed my friend, we’re a dying breed
@JPZ89
@JPZ89 Год назад
Been thinking that another factor that contributes to the difference in driving feel between the Si and 6MT Integra is the fact that the Si's body structure is inherently more rigid due to the shape of the sedan chassis (natural bracing in the form of the body structure directly behind the rear seats, between the C pillars) vs the Integra's lift back chassis which obviously has a gap in that same space. Recall how many tuners of prior gens of Integra lift backs/RSXs would install additional bracing in that exact area. I'm thinking the new Integra's engineers had to resort to other methods to increase chassis rigidity while maintaining the target cargo capacity which likely led to this new Integra feeling a bit heavier overall compared to the Si.
@billshoe22191
@billshoe22191 Год назад
The Civic SI is the better car (better seats, weighs less, looks better and has better summer tires stock to name a few)in my opinion and for less money. If you want to spend $40k on a luxury car, get a luxury car such as the G70 that’s proper rwd, etc. I will never understand people who buy Acura. It’s a worse version of a Honda offering for more money. Just shows you the importance of a marketing department I guess as people believe the marketers
@Frank_T1000
@Frank_T1000 Год назад
Edmunds tested the Si and Integra A-Spec head-to-head in a u-drag race. The better driver won the race in both the Si and Integra which suggests the differences between them are very minimal. I really think the perceived differences in how you guys think they drive is exactly that - just perception. The Integra really is just a slightly nicer, bigger and heavier Si. I don't think that makes it a worse car than the Si. Not everyone just wants the best performance possible. Those extra features (the hatch, adaptive suspension, heads up display, full digital gauge cluster, heated seats, memory seats, ELS audio system, styling etc) are things people care about. Different strokes for different folks. Also, the Civic Si won't be coming with the summer tire option from the factory after this year.
@eloneatmyshorts
@eloneatmyshorts Год назад
Agreed. And it’s interesting that Camissa enjoyed the Integra over the Si opposite of Todd and Paul’s take.
@proleisuremotorsports
@proleisuremotorsports 11 месяцев назад
Coming from an Audi A4, I just chose an 2024 Acura Integra A-Spec 6M over the Honda Civic Si because the markup even on the used 2022 Si's put the price ($34k!) very close to a new Integra. The cars felt very similar in driving experience, but interior and features set them apart and well worth an extra $3-4k for a new car with no miles. I paid -$1000 off MSRP. Opting for a 6M trans offers so much more engagement, no regrets at all.
@krisschedler
@krisschedler Год назад
All your points are valid, but I still think there is $8K worth of goodies to argue for Integra over Si, but it is debatable.. you get excellent ELS sound system, Hatchback form, adjustable dampers that do make a difference, adjustable drive modes, driver lumbar and it is adjustable, 10.5 inch customizable instrument panel along with adjustable ambient lighting, sunroof,... and that fact that Honda dealers are pricing Civic Si at almost the Integra price, that fact alone makes the choice a slam dunk for some of us. And they are on the lot now
@kentako8179
@kentako8179 Год назад
Wish we had some real Teg fans reviewing this car who knows Integra's history as this is a tribute to the 3rd gen integ that has the name molded to the front left and rear right bumper.
@ericpromisco2213
@ericpromisco2213 Год назад
Yeah, I was surprised they didn't know that. Every other auto journalist who's reviewed this car knew that. Would have thought they would have done a little more research first. They even did a mini review of a 3rd gen GSR a few years back so they've seen this feature before lol.
@natewagner3165
@natewagner3165 Год назад
Toyota Tundra has the name on the front in the grill Chevy puts Chevrolet across the front of the 2500 and 3500 trucks
@PLANETWATERMELON
@PLANETWATERMELON Год назад
Yes there is another car that had it's name on the front and back bumpers....it's called the Integra for like 20 years!!!
@shivamarya5225
@shivamarya5225 Год назад
10:07 the original integra type r? its a direct throwback to the integra my dudes. This video was stupid, 7:45 the mesh doesent run all the way under the dash, its a different pattern from the civic and the center and right vents dont even align straight for it to be the same vent
@cbhays86
@cbhays86 Год назад
While I agree with many of the criticisms, there are quite a number of upgrades vs. the civic SI that justify the price difference (even ignoring the difficulty of finding an SI at MSRP!) Ride quality / dampers / ind mode Sound system Hatchback Int. quality + int. color choices Synth leather over cloth seats Heated front seats, rear seat USB HUD, rain sensing wipers Seat memory and power adjust Ext. styling and brand perception I think there is 8k of value in the above. A lot of small things, but they add up to a fantastic car
@tomm7505
@tomm7505 4 месяца назад
Annoying "review". Not even a true review of the Integra. Others have done it on RU-vid better.
@mkei8973
@mkei8973 Год назад
Hi, from Japan!! Wow, you two could take Integra for test drive even we cannot see it in Japan. Therefore, we haven’t heard any comments about the car yet. However, I think car journalists and car racers in Japan would announce same comments as yours. Because you two’s comments are always almost same as reliable Japanese car journalists and racers. You two are one of most reliable car reviewers in the world. Yes, I think people who put importance on driving and love to drive would pick Civic. People who want little bit of luxurious looking on a car would pick Integra.
@TestDriveVideos
@TestDriveVideos Год назад
We appreciate your compliments and are glad to have you watching. Thank you!
@mkei8973
@mkei8973 Год назад
I’m really glad to have a reply from you. My dream is that I support you two one day try to do something for fun in Japan!!
@crazyone1067
@crazyone1067 Год назад
A MAZDA3 AWD is better than this with a lower price with the exception of the torsion beam axle.
@deltahorizon26
@deltahorizon26 Год назад
Same here with a 23’ Integra 6MT in Liquid Carbon/Red Interior. Overall, I love the car. It’s plenty fast, gets good gas mileage, the manual is as engaging as it gets, and the liftback is something I really wanted (I would have to pay over 50k to get a comparable liftback from Audi). The rear cargo space is immense; I was able to fit a full 65’ LG OLED TV inside, packaging and all. The Integra will definitely be my benchmark daily driver for years to come. The car is by no means a good value though. For 37k, I expected rear air vents, a DCT instead of a CVT, perforated leather seats, and both heated/cooled seats. It was disappointing to me as a buyer that this wasn’t standard equipment for a 37k car. I would’ve liked to see SH-AWD, the 2.0T from the Accord, or even front double wishbone suspension. I understand though the current Civic platform simply doesn’t allow the Integra to have those features. I’ll be keeping this car running for as long as I can. Either until it breaks down, I get into a horrible car accident, or gas prices get to expensive.
@jimiverson3085
@jimiverson3085 Год назад
The thing is, the engine in the Accord is an adaptation of the K20 design - which is the same block used in the Type r and new Integra S. It already fits in this Civic platform with a turbo. The Civic platform is also the base for the CR-V, so it shouldn't take much to adapt it for AWD.
@jeromeotis835
@jeromeotis835 6 месяцев назад
Only problem is that Si’s sell at 5k markup. That is real life detail you have to take into account. The stereo upgrade alone is priceless
@sylvaincastano
@sylvaincastano Год назад
The name of the car in front? Basically every Peugeots from the 1930's up to the early 80's. It stopped with the 505 you had in the states. The justification of it was the zero was the orifice of the crank start handle. It's particularly true on the Peugeot 202 for example. Have a look at the 601 Eclipse and will be surprised! Cheers from France!
@ciello___8307
@ciello___8307 Год назад
Also the els sound system is a lot better than anything you can get in the civic
@anthonys6657
@anthonys6657 4 месяца назад
The Acura dealer experience and the fact that they don’t play games with you during the sale is worth something. Good luck finding a Honda dealer who’s not gonna jerk you around on the sale of a Civic SI.
@Cinnamon535
@Cinnamon535 Месяц назад
Facts I went in there they said "you want this car"? I said yes "can you take it home today"? I said yes , no games straight to business also dealer was very luxurious compared to honda
@czluver4338
@czluver4338 Год назад
When I was shopping (U.S.), the SI was marked up $10k. An Accord Sport 1.5T was marked up $9k. I got the 6MT Integra in white at MSRP which made it only $400 more than the Accord with significantly more features and cheaper than the SI which wasn't even in the same class. Say what you will, but it's the better deal over an SI.
@jayczyzyk7607
@jayczyzyk7607 Год назад
Come on shmucker no one will buy a wizzel instead of an suv 😢
@scottanderson9442
@scottanderson9442 Год назад
The A-Spec Integra loses to the Civic Si, but the one place the Integra wins in a comparison is between the Base Integra ($32K) vs Civic Touring ($31K). For $1K you get nicer interior and much better looking car.
@lawinsmalltimore
@lawinsmalltimore Год назад
Didn’t the original integra have the name stamped in the bumper skin toward the end?
@TestDriveVideos
@TestDriveVideos Год назад
Yes it did. Bravo.
@GeneA.69
@GeneA.69 Год назад
Love my Integra, ROCKS!
@IrixGuy
@IrixGuy Год назад
Me too!
@my4cars528
@my4cars528 Год назад
Didn't the old Integra have badging molded in the bumper?
@MrDaveaccord
@MrDaveaccord Год назад
I like this car. I found a local dealer that will sell me a Base trim in performance red pearl with the CVT for MSRP.
@kasio22B
@kasio22B Год назад
From my observations of my local area, they don't sell that well...
@A_guan
@A_guan Год назад
I was close to buying one but I just couldn't see the value in the 37k. However like you guys said...if there was sh awd with the manual there would have been no question...I would have bought it dispute it only having 200 hp. I bought a mazda cx50 and will hold off for when I can get a rwd sports car instead of another fwd car.
@jaminsmith77
@jaminsmith77 Год назад
I’m a fan of Paul and Todd but they seemed like they were not in a very good mood during this review. 😂 I’ve considered both and would choose Integra over Si for the hatch and other interior upgrades not mentioned here. The Integra has never been much more than a dressed up civic so I’m not sure why people are expecting so much more.
@marks92127
@marks92127 10 дней назад
As of September 2024 in Southern California, Acura Integras are selling at or below MSRP (including A spec-tech 6MT), Civic SI's are unavailable unless you are willing to wait and commit to a $5k+ markup. In many cases, the Integras are CHEAPER than the SI's due to markups, shady dealers, and distorted demand. Economics in action.
@jeffreyspencer4005
@jeffreyspencer4005 Год назад
Just got around to watching this after a busy holiday season. Great takes here--as usual. For me, I have to haul around large items so the hatchback would sell me on the Integra. Not to mention warranty, service plan, dealer network, and the many other niceties here. And yes, you can get one in my town for sticker or slightly under and Si's are selling for $4-5K over list.
@calvinspires1220
@calvinspires1220 Год назад
I'm almost completely sure the old Integra said the name on the front bumper as well. Pretty sure that's a throwback to the car's heritage.
@TestDriveVideos
@TestDriveVideos Год назад
Yes, you’re right. And it was odd there too. Thanks for watching!
@calvinspires1220
@calvinspires1220 Год назад
@TestDrive Always a pleasure!
@personwiththeface4416
@personwiththeface4416 Год назад
Honestly I don't care that it doesn't have AWD. For me the emissions are; no cooled seats, no rear seat air-con, no auto option (not getting a cvt). It's perfectly fine if it's the same car. Look at the Nissan 350/370z and Infiniti G35/37. Both are awesome, but they make their differences noticed. The adaptive dampers don't change enough to make it worthwhile. The ELS audio system is great, but lacks the noise dampening for it to be luxury (dual paned glass/noise isolators, etc). Lastly for the price it's not a German competitor; it's vs Mazda 3, Genesis G70 competition. For those three the Integra has an uphill battle.
@Mesmu906
@Mesmu906 Год назад
I ordered this exact car, and then canceled it for the same reasons. It may be a bargain compared to an Audi, but not to a Mazda 3 or a Civic SI or even a Touring. One other thing - it takes PREMIUM GAS (yeah, recommended) which means you pay $10+ more every time you fill it (forever) for a car that’s only a half second faster to 60 then a Honda CRV and is only as quick as the Mazda, both on regular. The Hyundai Elantra N or a Mazda 3 Turbo provide a lot more performance for less. The Integra is not enough car to buy for the money, and it is also too expensive to own for what you get. Acura fans hope the Type S will fix the value equation - wanna bet?
@organizedgopher
@organizedgopher 5 месяцев назад
From an owner of a Civic Si and a 6-Speed Integra A-Spec w/Technology… 55+ Integra upgrades and differences from US Civic (2024) I traded my Civic Si (2020) for a 2024 6-speed Integra. Below are the differences between the 2024 Integra 6-speed and the 2024 Civic Si that helped sway my decision. As you can see below, there are way more differences (57 at last count) than are spoken of in any RU-vid videos. Hope this helps those of you trying figure out the differences. BTW, as a former Si driver, I have ZERO regrets. The Integra retains the fun-factor of my Si, but also gives me all the premium upgrades I was missing-such a great real-world daily driver. My Si was a great car, but I’m enjoying the Integra more. Features not available on ANY ‘24 Civic: 1. Every body panel unique to Integra 2. 5.3” color windshield Heads Up Display 3. 16 Speaker ELS Studio 3D system with ceiling speakers 4. Microsuede front seats 5. Remote with brushed metallic trim 6. 12-way power driver seat with lumbar 7. Auto walk-up/welcome lighting feature 8. Lighted exterior door handles (all 4) 9. Lighted interior door handles (front) 10. Ambient LED footwell lights 11. Ambient LED door accent 12. 4 drive modes (including individual) 13. Aluminum bezel around shift boot 14. Adaptive suspension (3 settings) 15. 2-driver memory (seat & mirrors) 16. Auto slide driver seat upon exit 17. Beefier horn (Yes!!! Thank you) beep-beep vs meep-meep 18. Premium “tick tock” turn signal click 19. Unique “Jewel Eye” LED headlights 20. Longer warranties (both years & miles) 21. More rigid chassis 22. Standard A-Spec door sill badges 23. A-Spec badge on steering wheel 24. Frameless rear view mirror (auto-dim) 25. Leather ctr console trim (knee guard) 26. Unique shift knob (flat top vs rounded) 27. Diamond pattern vents (vs honeycomb) 28. Gloss (vs flat black) B and C pillar 29. Wider, longer body 30. Heated side mirrors w/ signals & reverse tilt feature 31. Full LED ext lighting (incl rear turn sig) 32. Full LED int lighting (incl hatch area) 33. WiFi hotspot 34. Functional bumper vents/air curtains 35. More sound dampening material 36. Acura cam cover 37. Form-fitted battery blanket 38. Advanced front side airbags 39. Advanced front knee airbags 40. Rear seat LED-lighted window switches Features not available on the ‘24 Civic Si: 1. Parking sensors front & rear 2. Rain-sensing wipers 3. Power driver seat 4. Power passenger seat 5. Dual zone auto climate control 6. Liftback design w/ more cargo space 7. Full 10.2” digital instrument cluster 8. Leather door trim 9. Leather arm rests w/contrast stitching 10. Rear USB outlets 11. Fog lights 12. Blinker in side mirrors 13. Heated seats 14. Qi Wireless phone charging mat 15. Alexa built-in 16. Sunglasses holder 17. Different tuning (according to Acura) UPDATE: Things I’ve learned after putting 3,000+ miles on the Integra: - The Integra is missing the occasional dash rattles that my Civic Si had. It may have better fitment, adhesives, or quality control. At any rate, I’m very impressed, because that was a concern of mine during the buying process. - In sport mode and on the same roads, my Integra feels as peppy as my Si, but like the Si, the Integra isn’t built for all out performance. - For the first 3,000 miles I have averaged over 35 mpg on premium. I have mixed city and highway on my commute. I occasionally open it up for a pull, but drive conservatively most of the time. On the interstate I’ve averaged over 40 mpg. Thrash it a lot and you’ll likely STILL get high 20’s. - I knew the ELS Studio 3D system was highly rated. But even so, I am floored every single day when I hear nuances in my favorite playlists and songs that I never noticed before because the previous systems just couldn’t do it. I had upgraded my Si with JL Audio mid-range and both Infinity and Kicker subs-the Si sounded way better than stock. However, this ELS system is not only in a different ballpark, it’s on a different planet. I read from a car reviewer that outside of Acura you can’t get this level of sound unless you fork out $60,000 or more. That, I can’t confirm. However, I can easily say it’s the best I’ve ever heard-and I’ve been in many cars. The Bose I had in my GMC Yukon pales in comparison. - So far, the only thing I miss from my Si since buying the Integra is the center console. The Integra’s armrest storage bin is a bit smaller. 5k miles now and still VERY happy. The Integra hit the sweet spot for me for affordable luxury and fun.
@shamish-2960
@shamish-2960 2 месяца назад
The 1st Gen Chevy Monte Carlo was just a Chevelle with a longer hood, Eldorado inspired styling and simulated wood on the dash. People still bought them in droves. Then there was the Pontiac Grand Prix, which was an even more upscale Monte Carlo, and people bought them up as well. I grew up in the age of Oldsmobuicks. I see nothing wrong with the Acura Integra being similar to the Civic Si. Some people like stadium rock and others like yacht rock. At age 50, I’m just fine listening to the Doobie Brothers and Steely Dan in the new Integra I bought for my wife.
@mabolzichjjl
@mabolzichjjl Год назад
I'd be willing to bet that the integra got some of the 10th gen SI suspension bushings to keep it a little softer whereas the 11th gen SI got some type R bushings for that extra pep
@thirdpedalnirvana
@thirdpedalnirvana Год назад
If the Integra was AWD the Civic Type R people would have a cow. "WHY DON'T WE GET AWD LIKE THE FOCUS RS OR COROLLA GR"
@haiwin224
@haiwin224 6 месяцев назад
I'd argue the review sort of misses one major portion of current automotive trends: the ground truth at dealers. I was able to get a great deal (below MSRP) on trade and a discount on an Integra A Spec Tech package. All my local Honda dealers can't keep the Si in stock and are selling what inventory. When they can get an allocation with the 6 speed manual Si they're selling it for the same or in some cases higher than what i was able to purchase the Integra for. It boils down to this: in 2023 the enthusiasts who wanted to buy a manual integra bought one. In 2024 Acura dealers have manual Integras on the lot and they want them gone. They spent 20 years cultivating brand loyalty on luxury or near luxury cars. The customers for that brand aren't going to buy anything with a manual transmission. So you can buy the Civic Si and likely be upside down the second financing clears, have less cargo space, the same driving experience (driven both and I can't see the difference really beyond the summer tires on the Si hooking up a little better, but i don't review performance cars for a living), and it's a Civic Si. Enthusiasts like the Civic Si. Nobody else cares.
@jamesdarrigo8277
@jamesdarrigo8277 4 месяца назад
I'm torn between the CVT and Manual. I have only driven manual once and live in a somewhat hilly place (north florida), is this worth getting a CVT as someone who doesn't know manual? I would love to be fluent in driving manual but I'm afraid of stalling all over the place. Great video!
@fez3327
@fez3327 6 месяцев назад
You almost have me waiting for the AWD future Integra. BUT! If they dropped one, it would be $42k and 18 months out before dealer-markup stopped.
@goldmountain206
@goldmountain206 Год назад
Very disappointed with Honda Design and Cost Saving.. Everything in the New Honda line up has the New Civic Interior. Civic is a good economy car with decent design but now Even the New Premium Acura line up has the Economy Civic Interior which is such a downgrade for a Premium Brand and Price...
@kylenewberry2598
@kylenewberry2598 Год назад
I've heard from multiple ppl that the si is too harsh for daily drives on nornal roads
@IrixGuy
@IrixGuy Год назад
I have the 2024 A-Spec and it’s super comfortable for daily driving.
@sanilj
@sanilj 10 месяцев назад
Y’all forgot to mention the 12 speaker ELS sound system. That’s a major upgrade over Civic Si, in addition to other features.
@johnplavist4236
@johnplavist4236 Год назад
AWD it'd be even heavier and that engine isn't a good match. Integra has never been AWD, come on people. People already complain about the price as is, that would be even more money. Acura isn't in a right spot people just are unrealistic with what this Integra is. It's the equivalent of an LS or GS, am I wrong?
@VQ25DETT
@VQ25DETT Год назад
Some people make jokes about this being a "rebadged" Civic. They say it's not the real Integra because it's not a coupe. But that's where all the haters stop. They can't look past the movies and games. The real problem isn't about what the car is based on. Because, as these guys pointed out, Integra has always been a nicer Civic. Honda and Acura failed to differentiate the two compact cars. They should have completely redesigned the dash. They should have developed SH-AWD for this car. 9th gen Accord and the 1st gen TLX were VERY closely related yet the TLX still got the AWD option. Less powerful 2.0T or even Hybrid would have been nice too.
@mihan5660
@mihan5660 Год назад
Last gen prelude has name on front too, must be a honda thing. Anyway, i wonder how much of the market is people who want a civic si but doesnt drive stick. With far less manuals around, presuably even less people have one available to learn on
@6SpeedTA95
@6SpeedTA95 Год назад
Unfortunately Acura really screwed this up in many respects. I had my hopes high but it became clear by early Summer this was going to be a severely compromised/handicapped car. Either go Civic Si or just step up to a 3 series.
@ChoPi-Eww
@ChoPi-Eww Год назад
There was probably a lot of work involved to make this Integra meet Acura's corporate image. The 1990's Integra was intentionally more sporty, but the brand itself has changed, as has the luxury content available in most cars today. The Type R, if it comes, would be a tough business case to argue. "Without racing, there is no Honda" How long does Acura have to live?
@thirdpedalnirvana
@thirdpedalnirvana Год назад
God I hate the digital gauge cluster. It's just got two fake gauges on it! Why can't we just have real gauges???
@calebfurlong
@calebfurlong Год назад
I want to like this car but I can’t get away from the feeling that this is just a big money grab from Acura. “Well we already the car, just put the word Integra on there!” Doesn’t seem like any car enthusiasm went in the car.
@SEZ66
@SEZ66 Год назад
What other car had the name embossed in the front? The DC2 (late 90’s) Integra…
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Год назад
Was thinking the same thing. Why make a big deal about it.
@joeschmoe5009
@joeschmoe5009 Год назад
You say "youre bring back this hallowed car, make it amazing" name 1 vehicle thats done that in recent years, ill wait.....but i wont hold my breath cuz id like to stay alive
@ccolivardia
@ccolivardia Год назад
On paper the price difference is much larger than they are in reality. Either lightly used or new, the integra will most likely only be a a little more than the civic because of dealer mark up’s and residuals in the U.S. at least.
@aaronelmquist8607
@aaronelmquist8607 Год назад
All wheel drive on a fancy civic. Sounds nice but really the engineering hurdles are probably way too high to overcome economically. I mean where is the drive shaft going to go and how much rear seating / cargo space will be lost. All I want for Christmas is a hatch version of the Civic SI. @honda I get that you think a hatch Si might cannibalize integra and type R sales. Personally I doubt this because type Rs are basically unobtainium with dealer mark-ups (which I won't pay - you're talking real sports car money at that point which the type R is not). And I won't pay 8k over the Si to get a manual Integra. You could just put the manual in the base integra and I would probably go find the 2k price difference to make that happen. End rant 😁
@williamconrad1087
@williamconrad1087 5 месяцев назад
I test drove an SI but went with an Integra because I felt all the little differences added up to make the whole greater than the sum of its parts. Yes it has the manual gearbox.
@jimiverson3085
@jimiverson3085 Год назад
Honda blew it with this car. We'll see if the S makes up for how underwhelming this car is. In 1994, I shopped the Integra LS ( no the GS with sports goodies) against the top Civic. The Acura was just a livelier, more interesting car to drive. Better steering, better mechanical noises, more power and better handling. 1.8 liter twin can 4 vs 1.7 liter SOHC in the Civic. 4-wheel discs vs. rear drums. $1200 more. That's the one I bought. Honda has lost the plot when it comes to an identity for Acura.
@ChoPi-Eww
@ChoPi-Eww 7 месяцев назад
And a year later, prices are around $30k for these, so the Si comparison changes a bit.
@clubracer6
@clubracer6 Год назад
I like the looks of the Si better, but do love the extras you get with this one. Plus the price is about the same in the current market. That said I test drove one of these and could not deal with the lack of power.
@joelpeterson2074
@joelpeterson2074 Год назад
Yep. If they gave us the Canada spec Si I would have it in my driveway right now. I live in MN and it matters to have those heated elements. I would get the HPT version and since it's so cheap, get a really nice set of winter wheels and tires and just enjoy the heck out of it every day. It's such a miss what they did with the US Si and Integra.
@baldygrey2779
@baldygrey2779 Год назад
I'm in Canada and I only found out recently that Honda does this. Not sure why since not all of the missing features are "winter-specific" so I didn't think that was the reason. It would definitely sell more...
@lrob5657
@lrob5657 Год назад
The whole rear wheel drive, horsepower, etc. argument with cars is so overblown. Get in the damn car, drive it and see how it feels. Period
@richardhaas9519
@richardhaas9519 Год назад
Dealer markups are ruining the market for enthusiast type cars. Ridiculous!
@IdrisFashan
@IdrisFashan Год назад
If they slapped SHAWD on this thing, I wouldn’t wait a second. That would be an insane bargain.
@darknightbegins85
@darknightbegins85 Год назад
Get a gr Corolla or golf r over this. Type s better have all wheel drive and that type r motor or the integra is just a bastardized version of a once proud legend
@ericsartanahorner
@ericsartanahorner Год назад
I'll keep my DC5 RSX, thank you. New cars are lame.
@Cinnamon535
@Cinnamon535 Месяц назад
Who needs a truck I can fit a refrigerator back there 😂
@gianniclaud
@gianniclaud Год назад
This was an unbelievably lazy and just bad review. Really just 18 minutes of heavy Si bias. Hardly auto "journalism," as you say lol
@ranthony2714
@ranthony2714 8 месяцев назад
In Canada the si is 40,000, while the integra with the manual is close to 50,000.
@corybureau4124
@corybureau4124 10 месяцев назад
the ELS studio 3D alone makes me want the integra over the civic
@sox2000
@sox2000 7 месяцев назад
They imprinted the name on the bumper because it’s a nod to 3rd gen Integras.
@numosi6960
@numosi6960 7 месяцев назад
A LOT OF COMPLAINS!... THEY MISSED A LOT OF SPECS THAT MAKE THIS CAR AN ATRACTIVE OPTION
@benh4984
@benh4984 Год назад
Almost bought this cause the Si was marked up $5k but my portfolio imploded
@atholmes52
@atholmes52 5 месяцев назад
this is not a great review. the clientele buying an si vs integra is vastly different
@vivalasvegas702
@vivalasvegas702 Год назад
Glorified Honda Civic at +40K……Noway!
@BobSmith-yh5im
@BobSmith-yh5im Год назад
Funny seeing more headroom in the Integra vs the TLX.
@mr08tsx
@mr08tsx Год назад
You guys are awesome!!! Always have enjoyed your reviews.
@garrettperkins9021
@garrettperkins9021 Год назад
I was enjoying this video until these guys started making fun of the name imprint on the bumpers. We all know why those are there, but for some reason, these guys make themselves look like clueless jerks acting like they don’t understand it. Poor scripting.
@TestDriveVideos
@TestDriveVideos Год назад
The name imprint thing is a small but odd reality, and was odd on the prior integra as well. Maybe the guys hit it a little hard, but it was another opportunity to discuss in relation to the civic styling. Also... these reviews are all unscripted. Thanks for watching!
@legalboy71
@legalboy71 Год назад
What other car has the name molded into the front bumper? Old Integras. I think it's tacky. But it's got "heritage"
@TestDriveVideos
@TestDriveVideos Год назад
Yes. Very true. An odd and rare choice, that’s why we posed the question. Thanks for watching!
@fredonia81
@fredonia81 6 месяцев назад
Omit the sunroof to gain headspace!!!!
@Arkinine93
@Arkinine93 Год назад
Ford escape has the name engraved on the front bumper
@mattdirks7896
@mattdirks7896 Год назад
I can't help but wonder if the regular Integra got the 2.0T it would be more compelling.
@ericpromisco2213
@ericpromisco2213 Год назад
The type s will have the k20 C1 out of the FL5
@danjakel4352
@danjakel4352 Год назад
A two-door coupe option and AWD option would have been compelling. Toyota, Mazda and Subaru have sports coupe offerings. This even creeps into base BMW 2 series coupe (actual not gran) price wise. The WRX has a ton more power and is less money and AWD! Honda has made some odd decisions lately.
@SIIKAP1
@SIIKAP1 Год назад
Nobody really buys coupes to justify the R&D to make a coupe variant of this. We all would like a coupe, but they hardly sell in mass volumes. WRX may be more powerful and have AWD, but that’s it. It’s much less refined, the gearbox and clutch suck compared to Si/Integra, terrible on gas, ugly styling, worse reliability, worse interior and sound system, etc. The speed is nice but it comes at a cost. If the Integra had an AWD option with 255 hp it would sell like crazy. And if the Type S is priced right it will also be a very good option.
@ericpromisco2213
@ericpromisco2213 Год назад
Keep in mind though those coupes are all either based off of previous platforms or shared with another company so development costs are shared. An Integra coupe built from the ground up would likely be 60-70k
@johnabitabile5035
@johnabitabile5035 Год назад
I really wish they would have made this into a coupe. Would have been perfect since they discontinued the si coupe.
@jimbochoo3316
@jimbochoo3316 Год назад
They could've made a nice Integra coupe with the last gen.
@jasonwi333
@jasonwi333 Год назад
In the end, this review isn't really very good. Instead of actually spending time analyzing and figuring out why they prefer the SI, they seem to think there is value in saying I like the SI better, just don't know why, it is a mystery, over and over again. Hmmm... seems two professional car journalists could do better. I kind of understand, though. Why do I prefer Straight Pipes videos over Everyday Driver...they should be the same. Both channels feature two guys reviewing cars. I don't know why, I like Straight Pipes better... it just feels better. I can't really figure out why. It is a real mystery...both have 2 guys talking about cars... they should be the same. But, for some reason that I can't articulate, the Straight Pipes channel is better, more engaging, more fun. Why is that? Could it be tires? Maybe, but there is something else? I guess Everyday Driver is good. It is not bad. But, compared to Straight Pipes, I just don't know why, I prefer Straight Pipes videos. Both feature two guys, reviewing cars, talking about cars. They should be the same, but they are not. It is such a mystery... I'll take Straight Pipes videos over Everyday Driver every day of the week.
@TestDriveVideos
@TestDriveVideos Год назад
The Straight Pipes guys do good work and we applaud their success. We could specifically break down the reasons why someone might like them more than us, or vice versa, but that is for the viewer to glean. Meanwhile, specific reasons were stated here as differences between the Integra and the SI (though they are quite similar) but it seems you missed those. Thanks for watching.
@jasonwi333
@jasonwi333 Год назад
It was satire. In the video, it was, "we like the Si better, just don't know why" over and over again. So, I said I liked Straight Pipes better than Everyday Driver, just wasn't sure why, over and over again. I even said I might like Straight Pipes better due to tires, which is completely non- sensiscal when evaluating a video. Sorry ... was just trying to have a little fun. You did make some salient points. I think you might agree, however, that you said you weren't sure why you preferred the Si quite a bit. Thanks for replying.
@nycmaster
@nycmaster Год назад
The Integra used to be the premium sportier Civic, now is like the old man or Cadillac of Civic. The return of the Integra is just mainly for Nostalgia and sales, since Acura already been making a rebadged Civic for years, the ILX, which did not sell well.
@thirdpedalnirvana
@thirdpedalnirvana Год назад
Why does it feel like automakers are only interested in making a car if it's a car for everyone? Why not make a car that only 5% of buyers want? If you make it the best in the segment (which should be easy since it will probably be 1 of 1 in the segment) you're gonna do better than competing against every CUV-ish car.
@thirdpedalnirvana
@thirdpedalnirvana Год назад
I test drove a Civic Si when they first went to the non-vtec motor and I thought to myself "wow, except for the shifter, everything about this car is worse than my base model manual golf with 30 fewer horsepower on paper, who would buy this?" Then I started having to fix broken things on the VW... and OK if you aren't the sort of person to keep buying cars and you expect your new car to last you a decade, yeah the Si starts to make sense.
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