ACW: Battle of Savage's Station - “Sumner’s Rearguard” 

Citizens is less associated to killing outside of story than slave is.

I just read my great great grandpa's journal , and am glad I didn't have to live through that.

Man this gave me a hearty laugh, thank you.

i agree

I agree. Maguder's performance was no worse than any others during the Seven Days. Jackson and his men missed the battle at Gaines Mill because he decided to nap under a tree when the march enc a small steam. That left AP Hill unsupported but he attacked anyway, and got large numbers of his men killed. And Longstreet held up the advance of half the army by demanding for his men the use of a road based on his own seniority, despite the fact that it meant the divisions already marching on the road had to halt and step aside to let Longstreet's division go by. But one thing about Lee: he immediately forgave the failings of subordinates he liked, and immediately transferred the subordinates he didn't.

It seems like Lee always has a general or two that don't do what he thinks they should have been doing.

@@chrisfoxwell4128 that sounds like both sides of the war.

From my readings on the subject, Lee did not want Jackson to stay north of the river. Jackson was in a stupor from lack of sleep and misunderstood Lee's intent.

i agree ^^

@@WarhawkYT You should know that I'm currently watching the Shiloh full video again. As I write this, currently like. Cheers.

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I agree , I live only a few miles from there and it is very confusing to try and figure out what happened where.

rip

one word, Mcclellan

I completely agree with you on that because during the battle of Antietam my 3rd great grand uncle George E Kitzmiller led the brave men of company K First Pennsylvania Reserves Infantry Regiment into battle on September 17th 1862.

We are very close to antietam, we have after the seven days, a few non campaign battles, Northern Virginia Campaign, then the Maryland Campaign!

It’s going to be awesome I already know love your guys videos

awww shieeet popcorn time

Thank you so much!

always an amazing day!

literal smooth brains

glad to hear Tom!

You're welcome Janelle!

sad! to busy gaming i see

arent you the guy who wanted to have sex with a horse

yeah the area was nice, it was better kept than Seven Pines or Gaines Mill

you're welcome GC!

that is the flag of Magruder's former army called the Army of the Peninsula

you're welcome DONCHICHI!

Sad my boy Magruder got removed like that. An excellent defensive commander but a sub par offensive one.

glad to hear Roger!

Seven Pines is actually the entire town of Sandston, which came about as a result of DuPont needing to make gunpowder during the Great War. Most of the streets in the northern part of town are named after Confederate and Union Generals. Most of the houses here date between 1918 and 1945, making it a fairly established town compared to the newer, boring developments that often take over battlefield land. Also, the original road networks exist as they were during the war.

Yeah, the warhawk team visited the field back in May of this year and it was kinda sad to see

The issue with McClellan was he severely overestimated the enemy numbers and made his plans too complex to execute thoroughly. He was a methodical planner who often went with unconventional ideas as a means of winning the war. The problem with this, however, is it opens up the room for failure. One flaw in such a plan will result in the entire thing collapsing down on itself. However, McClellan’s major flaw was his _lack_ of initiative. When dealing with a failure, his first reaction was either to do nothing or take time to think about the plan. As a result, he often gave up the initiative and handed it over to his enemies. Joseph E. Johnston suffered from a similar problem, though he tended to be more aggressive than McClellan and saw more success, since he often could seize the initiative somewhat faster than McClellan.

@@MatthewChenault Yep. "Who dares wins" McClellan would never take big risks while Lee did all the time.

Sumner is not always there some times.

literal artillery trolls

nice dude!

uhhh there are some of these battles that we recently covered that are completely lost to development. Only the bigger, more well battles have been saved. Out of the Seven days Battles, Oak Grove is lost, Beaver Dam Creek is almost completely lost, Gaines Mill is half preserved, Garnets and Goldings is lost, Savage's Station is lost, Geldnale is mostly preserved, and Malvern is completely preserved.

@@WarhawkYT I see, that's unfortunate but still, compared to Europe you have it pretty well in that regard. I went to Normandy and its hard to find even a WW2 battlefield that isn't a parking lot or shopping mall these days, space is limited.

Same here!

welp

Btw nice job at creating these videos so entertaining and fun

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Yeah, I gave them the trim for variety

@@WarhawkYT yeah, otherwise they get lost in the crowd. They were a mostly Irish regiment like their 69 NY counterparts if i remembercorrectly. The Irish just love 69 lol

To be fair, Magruder held up McClellan for months before taking a medical leave...which he returned from prematurely. at Lee's request. I don't think either Lee nor McClellan handled these battles very efficiently, but Magruder stated in his report that the Union could have brushed his smaller force aside and marched into Richmond.

@@davidvonkettering204 I understand that completely, the comment was more of the comedic value than of the opinion of General Magruder as a field commander. He was a master at deceiving McClellan at Yorktown, and it’s understandable why he would need to take such medicines after being asked to return to duty prematurely.

@@gallantcavalier3306 I laughed, so it is working!

@@davidvonkettering204 Awesome!!

i concur

major and semi major, the smaller ones the most we wont make

the rectangle flags look better with the general portraits, size wise it would look kinda awkward

Yes there is! Check my playlist section

If you didn't get wounded or killed, you got sick and died.

It’s his personal Army HQ flag with the ark of the covenant

@@WarhawkYT cool thanks

What the hell are you talking about? The Confederates did not have higher quality troops, that's a farking lie, even Southern historians dismissed that, notably Shelby Foote, the super Rebel. Don't comment on things you don't know, that could help you. Go tell your fairy tales somewhere else.

@@OldHickoryAndyJackson They generally did, if you see the overall scope. You aren't generally told the other side of history: the mounting pressure on Lincoln and his government to get results. That instability and the continued Southern victories would have led to the power structure falling apart. Gettysburg was their massive turning point, a blunder and a phyrric victory where, though the Union again lost a large amount of troops, so did the Confederates. The Union once again showed they could just mount yet another attack with even more troops. For the first time afterward, they could have momentum and start winning, which was desperately needed at that time. The stories of child buglers are not just there for fun, they were on their last people at that stage. It was more than enough to force a retreat, a surrender, and from there justify their useless burning and destruction of their own countryside (Sherman's March to the Sea, etc. which they later just conveniently ignored and justified doing, then had to repair it all anyway).. Fearful that they were losing the war after losing crucial battles and failing at major junctions, they desperately needed a victory at that time. Constant mounting pressure, politically, on generals, caused instability, and it all culminated into the 'invincible' Lee and Stonewall being defeated at their respective battles just '1' time to end the momentum; they were the more skilled underdogs the whole time. As with Sparta, the US south would also go on to lose their war, their armies almost always suffering from problems of being outnumbered, ports blockaded, at some point a blow is dealt and their major force couldn't sustain itself afterward. In the US South's case, they didn't even use their slaves, which I think is further evidence, the North simply used it to pretend to be heroes after the war; they were quick to train negros to make suicidal attacks to soften enemy positions where famously they all died anyway; even the South considered this somewhat barbaric. They later made it into an idea like they were 'fighting for their freedom' in some way when in reality, both sides were about equal in their ideals. While having slightly better shooters, better discipline, it only helped them to win more battles before inevitably losing. There were no 'replenished' troops like the Union was able to buy or draft, and the South did not exactly follow those practices; in a way their 'higher quality' in those regards led to them losing more easily. They only had the armies they initially raised, and usually didn't have anyone else coming to refill their ranks or back them up. There is some truth to what you are saying but it's based on knowing less information than you probably should. Of course you can't have overall higher quality troops 'to some extent', they'll still be highly susceptible to losing a battle anyway, but they surely help a lot when battles are equal or when outnumbered in a good position; and they did, but in any bad battlefield situation, they could not recover after taking casualties in the way the Union was taking. I believe their best and only bet at winning would have been avoid the Gettysburg battleground all together. They really only had 2, arguably, 3 major armies, and Lee being the largest army, he was the final deathtoll when he couldn't sustain battle any longer. To win in that case, they would have had had to continue defending successfully against mostly less experienced Union generals who were pressured to change strategy and continue attacking. Eventually the Union would be pressured to surrender or so weakened that an attack would finally work. The Union were constantly conscripting, changed main generals about 3 times, and replenished their ranks much more fluidly. As well as having port control/naval blockades in place, much foreign support shipped directly to them, who were telling the world they would be the winning side of course. This enabled even easier recruitment, materials to flow, and unlike the South, they could afford major defeats where thousands of people simply died in a battle, and losing the battle, while the South, usually could not sustain such losses. After a couple thousand people died, they had to surrender or run, even if they literally killed 2:1 ratios and won the battles. The rest of it, is the usual, victors writing the history books, and justifying the 'very stupid' actions they did to appear like better people than the losers, even when they were overall in a civil war with their own countrymen that lived vastly different lifestyles. The irony is that even the taught issue, slavery, was only a desperation measure meant to weaken the South and incite potential uprisings, the Union after winning, simply took credit and pretended to be good guys giving rights out later.

@@johncherskov5755 they generally did not, equal is about the best you can do pal

@@OldHickoryAndyJackson I accept your statement but it's ironic you were just taught not to think using your experience and your brain.

@@johncherskov5755 you wouldn't get hassled so much if you didn't make moronic statements, learn real history, not just what your grand pappy said. Warhawk does a good job with objective videos, enjoy them without your hyperbolic comments

this video is 28m

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@@WarhawkYT i am so looking forward to the morning! Thanks Warhawk!

in what ways?

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For real