The funniest part is that her job is VOICE acting. We literally can't see her face, skin color, or whatever she spouts about. People are criticizing her acting skills, ffs
Lily Gao it's not a VA by career, she's an actress. Actresses and actors are not by default, good VAs. Sure there can be film/TV actors who are great VA but that's not the norm.
You don’t understand Marco. We now live in an age of Audio Blackface. Characters of color can no longer be voiced by non representing actors of the same race. That’s why Carl’s voice actor was changed in the Simpsons, or Apu was removed entirely. Or how Chaz from Bleach is no longer being played by Jamieson Price. That’s why no one now can play characters outside their own race… except Darth Vader.
@@Garl_Vinland Lol. I was born in 1990. This summary of what's happening now would have been one of the most racist things I'd have ever heard if it'd have been said back in the late 90s and early 2000s
@@CleveryBoy All the more reason to critique her performance. If she wants to broaden her horizons then there are certain expectations, which she didn't meet for the fans.
I was sad for her that people crossed the line from criticism to harassment but I’ve pretty much lost all sympathy for her now. She’s using an excuse to deflect from the fact she did a poor job. It’s not even a strong argument either. She’s one of the most popular, prolific, and withstanding Asian characters ever made. People love her, and I doubt many knew Gao was the first Asian VA for Ada. This isn’t about race, it’s about talent and skill.
"White-privilage" card is very useful to shield yourself from any criticism for a shitty job you did. It's the entire point why they immediately cry "white privilege".
it's an insult since we in the east not thr west are known to be thr best voice actors in the world lol. thisbis an insult. I didn't study 24.7 to have thisbrepresentation! lol
lol bro the amount of people who assume im white who grandstand about ada's voice actor being asian like it's some sort of milestone for the asian cause is so annoying, like bro she sucks, end of story
So a voice actress was criticized for her performance of Ada Wong a character that is liked overall by Resident Evil fans prior to the remake and she then deflects any sort of criticism for her monotone readings by spouting about white privilege. I swear you cannot make this shit up ladies and gentlemen. Ada Wong deserved better than this.
I'm siding with the VA on this one. She shouldn't be criticized. She just did her job. It is the directors/developers of the game who chose to use her garbage lines. That's not on her.
@@DaShikuXI shes just not a good voice actress. Just replace her and move on. everything else about hte game is stylized except for this one boring voice acting.
@@DaShikuXI It's not just the line mate. Her voice sound completely off from the quality of others voice acting in the game. It is completely on her on this one.
My complain with the new VA is that she sounds so emotionally dead, meaning she just said her lines without a vocal tone involved. She basically didn’t seem interested in voicing the character properly
The thing that sucks is that since leon is somewhat bewitched by Ada it takes away from the believability of him always losing the upper hand agianst her. The old Ada voice was alluring and charming.
This is the EXACT problem with most anime dubs btw. They literally just read their lines, there is almost no enthusiasm for doing their job at all. Meanwhile you can watch youtubers who are 1000 times better than these so called "professional VAs." It's a joke.
For fans of old Ada Wong, there's a video of all her cutscenes, re-voiced using lines generated by AI via her voice bank. And ironically, the machine expressed more emotions
Nobody criticized her skin color, gender, or how her face looks irl. AI voice and speech generators sounds better than her Ada VA performance. That's it, that's the criticism. Nothing more, nothing less.
- Your voice acting is poor. - Oh yeah? Well... *spins the wheel of popular excuses* ... it's white people's fault! - You could've acted better. - Oh yeah? Well... *spins the wheel of popular excuses* ... you hate women! - Nah, you're a poor actress. - Oh yeah? Well... *spins the wheel of popular excuses* ... something something, power, gays and Trump. - Learn to act.
Oh wait so u guys actually think it sounds bad? Lmao damn it seems fine to me😭 it just seems to fit the zombie ridden world I mean the only difference is the old game makes her seem more alive and elusive which isn’t rlly necessary imo
I was watching a video of somebody making an AI Pikamee(sounded like Veddal?) I think speech to text AI voice overs including AI Translations will eventually replace VAs and the political bullshit they often bring
Lily Gao has never voice acted before. So why Capcom chose her, who is only known for small tv shows to voice a massive fan favorite character, and chose these takes from her is baffling.
We all thought she was mediocre. What I find surprising is that she wasn't vetted by anyone editing the cutscenes. Nobody thought she was a bad fit for the voice? She is the only one in the whole game who's voice stands out in a bad way. I thought AAA companies had standards.
I think it’s because Ada’s character isn’t exactly young. If they wanted to hire a new VA and keep this new VA for the next mainline RE entry they make, then Ada will likely be voicing an Ada that’s over 40 years old. Leon is currently around 36. She’s not Claire or Ashley. She’s older.
@@pinkblossoms I dont get what you mean? the og re4 ada actress didnt sound young at all. I dont get why you think this was the best choice because of the age of the character.
She was Ada Wong in that last godawful RE movie we got, which seems to be the reason why they casted her. However if you completely failed to remember she even shows up in the movie, I wouldn't wrong you either, I had to look up Google myself because I had complete brainfart Ada even shows up in the movie. (She's in the closing credits scene where she wakes up Wesker in morgue).
As an Asian person myself this is why I absolutely do not give a f*ck about representation. Because we have people like Ada's voice actor trying to be some sort of representative for us and deflecting blame while crying about "PrIviLeGe" and making us look bad for it.
They hired the VA for her looks most likely, not because she sounds closer to Ada. The only experience she has acting as Ada is in a 30 second cameo at the end of Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City, go figure, because she was speaking the dialogues stupidly quiet there too.
@@ShinKamaitachi can white people stop telling us how to be offended? can trans allies stop doing horribly things in the name of trans people while themselves are not trans? White people can you just like NOT. Just stop, please. You already hijacked and killed the black police reform movement be being stupid.
Whenever they (w0ke, leftists) talk about 'representation' or 'diversity' it literally translates to "less white people, specifically men" to normal people. Do not worry: to those people Asians are white adjacent, meaning Asians are too successful so they are next on the list of people who need to be removed from society. She just thinks it is more important to be a victim of some imaginary boogie man so she can excuse her sociopathic behavior.
Hunnigan is black with a black voice actress (Raylene Harewood). She sounds perfectly fine in the game - very similar to the OG voice. So, if this is about "angry white fans attacking minority actors", why is no one going after her? Could it be that Gao and her defenders might be full of sheet? 🤔
@@AtomicVertigo_Comics Agreed. I had to actually look up to see if it was a different voice actress from the original. New Ada? Nope. I knew right away.
You know that's a post from 2020 , hei literally mentions that near the end saying it's not a response to the hate she got , did you not watch or pay attention to the video?
i dont really get what scoring a high end job has to do with privilege. Would you also say this about someone who worked their way from the ground up into a high end job?
@@shantel685 especially whrn she was cast for the live action RE movie as the character. So yes super priveledge for her to voice a character she played a cameo role in the shitty live action movie. I hopr capcom recast her for Seperate Ways
Here me out, I miss the old gem system. Not crazy with this new gem system but I enjoyed the hunt for the shinies. Also, I kinda miss having the laser sight on all guns. It was very RE4 for me. It made the emersion better because you had the laser guiding where you would shoot over a cross hair just floating in the distance. Its kinda like how in Dead space your Hud is tied to the Rig and not a floating hud in the corner. These little details make it better for me.
I met the Ada actress for Re2 Remake at a con and she was very nice! I can't believe they replaced her, literally no one complained and now you have this weird mark on a fantastic remake
I hear it's because the RE2 Remake went Union and Capcom hates Union VA and so replaced her. Something about Union being more costly to hire and they wanted to save money. Shrug. Not entirely sure.
I love our modern society. We can’t criticize someone without them playing the “wHiTe pRiViLegE” card, the racist card, the sexist card, the “toxic fans” card. Let’s just never accept our faults/short-comings and blame others instead… Her voice acting was terrible, and I am not American… I also blame the quality control team (normally, paid professionals watch the finished product for quality… guess companies don’t have those kinds of people anymore…)
Acceptance culture has ran it's course to stupidly far levels. Sensitivity right behind it too. Everybody expects a freaking gold star everytime they blink now. We're beyond idiocracy now, we're at r*tardocracy.
I was watching a streamer play the RE4 remake and Ada’s flat tone kills the momentum in the cutscenes I saw. I cannot lie, Ada does things to me on a level I cannot specify but I was happy when she went off screen cuz I was like ‘do you even care about what’s going on at all?’ She talks like she’s reading lines in a booth 😂
Your wife doesnt cheat on you with your son's friend who later on comes out as gay who tells everybody on TV while talking in front of you and laughing
Privilege is a funny word, because everyone is privileged in one way or another. Like making friends, having the ability to walk, or to speak or to have mental capacity to be considered social acceptable standards to perform in society, having the opportunity to see or hear.
They separate privilege into "the good privilege" of discriminated minorities and "the bad privilege" of the discriminating majority. Ordinary Communism.
Sure I guess, but obviously some forms of privilege are gonna be a whole hell of a lot more powerful than others just by virtue of how a society is structured & which forms of privilege are most valued
@@rjramrod yeah, but I strongly say that privilege isn’t inherently good or evil is just a characteristic that could be advantageous, Realistically everyone has a different privilege that is valued differently. For example educational career, or wisdom gain from experience which is much more valuable; the answer depends
As an Asian this pissed me off so much , why these people just can’t take accountability for themselves? “ I’ll improve thanks for your comments would’ve been suffice” , instead it’s always someone else’s fault
It's not really limited to Asian people. People born with good genetics and from rich families that have benefitted from the privileges both bring always want to make out they are a victim to play down their advantages in life.
people were not telling her to improve, or just telling her that she didn't make a good job as Ada, if you would have read the comments on her last posts before she deleted everything you wouldn't be saying this. I didn't like her voice for Ada but that doesn't mean that i'm gonna wish death to her on her ig post like a lot of people did.
Because it's easier nowaday to play the victim card based on race, gender, sexual orientation, and other factors than admitting you just suck at the job and need to improve.
When you play a popular and beloved character and you phone it in expect criticism, if she was voicing Villager #14 no one would give a crap. Being Asian doesn’t put you above criticism.
Now that you mention it. The villager voice lines weren’t that great. Especially when they constantly repeat over and over “you can run but you can’t hide” in Spanish. It’s like they couldn’t add a few other lines they can say during stealth sections to mix it up? It’s literally the same line constantly. There’s also Mendez, Saddler and Krauser criticisms too. I’ve seen a lot people say the remake versions are inferior to the original voices. Krauser had a more commanding voice in the original. The remake it just sounds like the VA is straining his voice to sound badass or menacing, and punctuating everything with “RoOkieee”. The orginal Krauser didn’t need to constantly spout rookie at Leon, like it’s some kind of playground insult. They were comrades, and Krauser still held some respect for his opponent for getting as far as he did dealing with the illuminados. The remake is great and all, but there’s a couple missteps with how some characters are presented. The original was lightning in a bottle. So I understand how difficult it can be to replicate that or surpass it. Still, Krauser and Ada IMO weren’t done very well. Maybe my opinion will change once we get Seperate Ways and see more if Saddler and Ada, but we’ll see.
@@Cr1ms0nRav3n Capcom avoids hiring VAs that are part of a union now, so they were casting third-rates or something. In the case of Ada's VA she has no professional experience doing this and her resume is 30 second cameo as Ada in the Netflix adaptation.
@Cr1ms0nRav3n true but at least with krauser and saddler, while not as good as the original, tried to put some effort into their delivery and emotion which I'll give them credit for. They tried at least where as ada's voice actress didn't try at all
You know that's a post from 2020 , hei literally mentions that near the end saying it's not a response to the hate she got , did you not watch or pay attention to the video?
@@jackbutt8774 Yea I know that, the post is still up, so she obviously still believes it, and it’s 2020, not 2000, I doubt she’s changed much since then, more than likely she’s even more radical now.
@@InfamyOrDeath-__- ok and? You know the thing about sympathy is that you can have it for someone even if their views are different from yours , otherwise you just lack humanity.
I put the blame on the one who hired Gao in the first place. Looking up Gao's credentials, she has LITTLE experience in acting and NO experience in voice acting (which is its own different brand of acting style). Meaning, whoever hired Gao had hired her for her LOOKS and not her voice/acting skill. This wouldn't have been an issue back in the day when RE was well-known for its brand of Cheese-Horror. But as the graphics have been improved so has the acting and expectations. In the RE4 Remake, Gao's bad voice acting sticks out like a sore thumb, especially when you hear it side-by-side with the other VAs (who have all brought their A-game to the table). I think Gao's lack of experience explains why her performance sounds very... indecisive/shoddy at times. She's essentially a novice actor still learning her craft, yet has been placed from the frying pan and straight into the fire (with dire results). I imagine Gao thought this challenge wouldn't be an issue for her since she played Ada Wong in that notorious flop, RE Welcome to Raccoon film. But because Gao is so green in the acting business, she (like so many ACTORS who attempt to do voiceover work) hasn't realized that VOICE acting is an entirely other beast. Voice acting requires a different set of skills. You can't use body language as a crutch or depend on your looks to carry you through. In voice acting, it's all about SOUND performance. Honestly, Gao probably could've fared well if she had left things well alone. I have less respect for her now since she's quick to demonize a group of fans that didn't agree with her performance and use the 'privilege' card as a crutch. I mean, it's not like I don't understand her defensive attitude. I get it: no one wants to hear criticism of their work. But Gao needs to own it and stop misusing heavy-loaded words as a shield against legitimate criticism. She has a LOT of work/growth to do if she wants to make it far in this business. She has to accept that this was NOT her best work and use this as an opportunity to get better. Nick (Leon's VA) had an uphill battle too by voicing an iconic character, one that had been portrayed so well by many well beloved VAs. Yet, he didn't let the criticism and naysayers get to him. He focused on his craft and EARNED the respect of the fandom by giving us another stellar performance and expressing passion/appreciation toward the material and its fanbase. It's got nothing to do with privilege and all this other bullshit - it's about earning your stripes and growing as an artist.
"Shockingly, it's at a women, chasing her off the internet entirely, it seems." - Paul Tassi, senior contributor, FORBES. English is these people's primary tool and they can't even figure out the difference between woman and women.
Ada has always been a calm and cold character and ressident evil 2 remake handled her voice very well but 4s voice just sounds bland she sounds so bored like she’s being forced to read a book she doesn’t like.
Criticism is fine,it shouldn't lead to harassment of others and straight-up bullying cuz that's just wrong. People need to learn how to manage this better and just say they didn't like that person's performance without being an absolute dick about it.
Bro, I'm Asian. If a white or black girl can do Ada better, so be it. It's a character, you act accordingly and have your voice blend with the character's personality. I really dislike the whole "black should sound black" or "Asian should sound Asian" convo, just give me a good God damn performance. 😅
How does one even "sound Asian"? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Ada has lived in the US for most her life, if not all of it. So she would have none of the asian accents.
Ong! And it especially doesn’t even make sense when the character is American. It’s one thing if the character is actually like foreign or something and an authentic accent would be more believable or whatever, but that’s not even what this is.
You know that's a post from 2020 , hei literally mentions that near the end saying it's not a response to the hate she got , did you not watch or pay attention to the video?0
@@jackbutt8774 I did finished the whole video and paid attention before commenting, I'm just trying to bait those who will always know better. On a serious note Lily Gao does not deserve to be treated this way just because of her poor performance (in my own experience, a lot of people like her performance though and I'm cool with that) then again those who are hating on her are probably just trolls and have nothing better to do.
@@friednoodle6582 agreed , I personally dont like her performance but those who went to hate on her need to learn to chill out and realize not all the blame is on her as the blame also falls on the director, maybe editor and the person casted her and capcom for being anti union thus limiting their candidates .
@@jackbutt8774 welp, there's no helping those fools who just want to be toxic aholes. But what I don't understand is why Lily fell flat with her performance, I mean she was ok with that small part in welcome to raccoon city, she gave off a seductive tone.
It sounded like she was going for sultry/seductive but flopped big time and ended up sounding like she smokes 3 packs a day. Was there a definitive reason given for why the RE2 remake VA couldn't do Ada again? Or was it the usual reason going by what the new VA left on her social media.
I've seen plenty of people saying the VA was changed because she was white, and the new one is a diversity hire. But I don't think Capcom will ever confirm that.
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and say she sounded decent, but when you know how Ada previously sounded like, it's hard to not be disappointed.
I have never played an RE game, so the clip of the remake was my first time hearing any VA voice the character. Nope, the VA is just giving a bad performance
@@melonman6522 i dont play, and it just sounded someone who never had to flirt trying to be flirty, ada comes off as a tease, she only gives half answers and plays coy, the old ada sounded like she went on dates, and flirted with ppl, new ada sounds like she took notes from an P video, and thinks thats flirting...
@@117Ender Some people said Ada need actually have kinda flat voice cause her character is actually mysterious. But even if you give her a flat voice, doesn't mean it sounds like she just reading a script. There's some characters that have a flat voice, but you still felt they are real and engaging.
Are you surprised? Most Japanese VAs actually do their job. Most english VAs BARELY have ANY emotion in their lines and it's generally cringe or awful.
probably because most JP VAs have decades of experience doing voice over, so that experience translates into a better performance. in NA, very few voice over talents exist because its usually limited to animation and people still hold the idea is animation is for kids, and kids dont deserve quality voice over talent so they just slap whatever decently delivered voice line that isnt a flub onto the finished product. why do you think they hire people like Nolan North and Jennifer Hale to voice every male/female character under the sun. there isnt nearly as much competition.
@@MrSkullMerchant Some people being assholes doesn't negate the criticism. Her VA work was shit, the original Ada sounded seductive and had way more emotion in her voice vs the new Ada which simply sounds like she's deadpan reading from a script verbatim with 0 emotional investment - there's also 0 evidence of her being harassed, so pretty neat to do a shit job then go "I was harassed" yet have everyone believe that. Not to mention she has pretty much no experience in voice acting. Criticism isn't hate or harassment, saying you're getting hate with no proof just to deflect is sad.
@jack butt So you're okay with her being racist but not people giving her criticism over her shitty voice acting? You seriously can't make this shit up lol.
I actually disagree with this. Previous performances sounded far too playful to be a femme fatale. That's my main issue with her portrayal in the other games. Ada always came off like a college girl trying too hard. I guess it was sorta funny in the original RE4 because that game was pretty goofy to begin with. But for tone of the RE4 remake, she did a solid job of sounding more mysterious, which is kinda the point of the femme fatale. She should have ramped up the sexiness a bit though. She got the mysterious part down just not the alluring part.
@@carteljameson8395 all i got from her is just disinterest, boring voice. And that is my opinion, as brown Asian that love this game. (They want to play race card, fine let's play)
She was absolutely shocking - Very very monotone - and had no clue about the ada character clearly. I think the new wesker is terrible too but he's white though * brain explodes *
@@zawarudo8991 I read the good voice actors are in a union now so they'll get paid fair, meaning we get these god awful ones instead. Graphics get better, voice actors getting worse 😂
the original VA has that "femme fatale" sultry voice that makes her significantly more iconic and, dare I say, having more range and emotion? than... whatever they were trying to do in the remake, hell, even her red dress is as non-practical as it is waaaaaay more stylish the remake VA just lost my respect, I didn't care before but now we can call her a crybaby
Hey im one of the so-call harassers. i2u4n is me. She literally can’t take any criticism as an actress, then she should take another career because she doesn’t fit.
Her outfit in the original was MORE practical, is what you're trying to say? I thought the opposite. Both still just skanky af though, not making any sense for the context of why she is there.
@@skeletonwitch. If you actually did that over a VA job she did for a videogame, then that makes you whiny b*tch and you should probably get new hobby real quick. But I know you didn't do that, so you're cool. To me personally her voice acting wasn't terrible, in fact it was just mid and passable, I guess "okay" but not "awful" and kinda underwhelming when you put her against the other incredible Ada performances. I don't think it was worth her getting bullied for (it shouldn't happen to anyone regardless unless they legit ask for it). I don't agree with her defence either, pointing out that she's the only ethnically accurate person whose portrayed Ada and that's something people hate about her performance (that's bullsh*t). But she defended herself against the Internet pitchforks which was unwarranted in the first place which is completely understandable. If anything point your pitchforks towards Capcom or don't do that at all and just enjoy the game.
I personally don't care if she's asian, I perceived ada as a sensual and confident woman. Ming Na Wen has a more sultry voice than the VA they chose for remake Ada. I perceived the Jessica Rabbit type of tone as an important counterpart of her character.. Damn
My theory is that Ashley's VA sucked the motivation out of Ada's VA. I don't know how she did it but she is really selling the panic when Leon gets hit or dies.
Seeing baby eagle all grown up (despite the fact she was already grown up), would be so fun. It was subtle but I don’t think I saw Leon smile as much as in RE2 remake cutscenes. It’s like Ashley somewhat cured his PTSD.
It was not a good performance for the character. Period. My problem has nothing to do with her not being white, that's a ridiculous reason to dislike someone's VOICE performance. I personally didn't feel like any of the voice acting in this game was that memorable and the biggest reason is the lack of actual voice actors. Traditional actors are not voice actors. You know why games like The Last of Us are so highly praised for the actors performances? Because they hired professionally trained voice actors. Who knew how to convey emotional depth into their characters. Leon has about 1 emotional level through the entire remake, Luis is just okay, and Ashley probably did the best out of all of them. But Ada's was terrible. There's no depth to the actual character, there's no tonal differences and while the lines weren't the best written, the reading is what really slaughtered them. Lily Gao needs to take this criticism seriously, if she wants to continue voice acting? Keep training. It's a different beast from traditional acting. And Resident Evil devs need to do a better job in the hiring process. Hire professional voice actors with real experience in the world of voice acting, NOT traditional actors.
You know that's a post from 2020 , hei literally mentions that near the end saying it's not a response to the hate she got , did you not watch or pay attention to the video?
@@laszlonagy02 he does that to bring in people cause hate and anger bring in the views , that's the anti SJW model. It works cause alot of you dont actually bother watching and understanding the video instead you go into commenting getting angry for no real reason.
Asian American that did sub-par and emotionless voice acting: "All this white privilege..." Me, looking at the massive difference in per capita earnings between Asian Americans and white Americans: 😂
You know that's a post from 2020 , hei literally mentions that near the end saying it's not a response to the hate she got , did you not watch or pay attention to the video?
The Impression I always had was that Ada was a cool mysterious character, so there is going to be a lot of quiet hype for this character's voice, not quiet as in, a small fan base, but quiet as it wouldn't get noticed normally, unless you were paying attention as it's a small, but beloved part of the RE series. So like many things labeled wrongly shoved into something it's not, basically being called a white privilege "issue", when this is clearly disappointment in the expected quality of the voice of a beloved character, this is going to get the fandom to be protective of the old voice and reject the new voice because they seem to want to justify a lack of effort. I know that not everything works out, but they seemed to nail the other voices so there is very little excuse why Ada was a miss here. They should have just taken the L, moved on, and do Ada justice next time, but let's repeat the exact same thing that is killing Journalism for the past 5 years and pray it somehow works this time, and only end up showing every one why it won't be a bad thing when Journalism dies. They need to stop deliberately sabotaging themselves, it's getting sad.
Perfectly said. Hell, I liked the new VA and direction she had, but I also see why people (especially fans of the OG) do not. How journalists can't ever, apparently, respect fans' viewpoint is beyond me...
There is journalism and then there is bad journalism, right. There is no evidence this was a case of white privilege, but remember the way she was harassed when she did Ada in Welcome to Raccoon City? The hate Avan Jogia and Hannah John-Kamen received because they weren't the right race? They too retreated from socials because they suffered blatant racism. It's pure bullying that's happening here and once again, there are good people who allow it to happen. And then, all forms of defense are suddenly an excuse to be victimised. You can bet there were all kid of nasty things said to her, and to Avan and to Hannah, including about their race/gender. And I say it's okay to not like a performance, but really? The gal was closely directed by capcom's highups and they still decided she was a good fit, a sino-american woman playing a sino-american character, the quiet type. And so she did, the quiet type.
Coming from a place where I didn't play the og game or the remake I come from a place of less biases. At first I thought her voice sounded good, but after hearing the original I was stunned by it. I don't know why but the original one just hit totally different.
@@ian3087 The og was the shit this new VA is dead like a robot could do better, actually a robot did do better because someone changed it to an AI version of the original onto the new one, we weren’t all born with taste tho so you have your opinion, the true RE gamers the ones that have played this game since the beginning think much differently, the VA took away the whole package of Ada, i said what i said
@@ma_ma_marcus yeah you have a bad taste, no one is arguing about that. You basically saying you just like the old one because of nostalgia lmao, and didn't the developers said that re4 remake will be in serious tone? thats it, so what do you expect?
Yeah, the person / people who should be blamed is the voice director / casting director. They're the ones who choose the VA for a role, and if they choose a bad VA for the role it's on them. Similarly, if the director during her recording sessions was telling her to give the monotone / bored deliveries or not telling her to stop those deliveries it's on the director.
Old VA apparently joined a union so that's probably why they didn't bring her back, which likely means these garbage takes were as good as she was able to give. Everyone else in the remake did amazingly, so I have a hard time believing they just overlooked some of her worst lines and said "Yep, zero effort, that sounds good." Unless they just got lucky and got a bunch of actors together who nailed all their lines in the first takes.
@@MrSegadude21 or the director actively told the VA to deliver her lines in the way they are in the game. Obviously we don't know what went on in the booth, but if the VA is giving bad deliveries they can be fired and replaced. People just like to blame only the VA for any issues, since they're the one who's most "visible", but the one in charge of approving the VA's hiring and deliveries is more at fault IMO.
@@patrickdix772 we can only speculate but it does seem someone forced Gao on them only because she played ada in the Netflix resident evil series. Seems the director didn't have a choice and tried his best with what he had. Firing her didn't look like an option
@@MrSegadude21 not too big of a correction but other people might Confuse it, but its the Welcome to Raccoon city one, postcredits scene😅 not the Netflix series
Some people would rather hide behind anything than accept criticism. It's a shame they hired her for Ada, her terrible performance is the only thing holding the game back from being perfect.
Hunnigan used to be voiced by a white VA. Can't have that any more with Capcom's pursuit of western PC culture... at least on the EN side. Their JP side? It's all Japanese VAs. I wonder why Twitter isn't raging about that. But hey, Hunnigan's new EN VA does a perfectly fine job. Ada's new voice is still trash though.
She just can't take critisism, realistically this kind of reaction to a bad preformance would get you blacklisted but knowing how the voice acting industry runs today shes probably just going to fail upwards.
@@goodguybrian9764 Mind showing us some of those death threats. I saw some of the comments and all they were, were comments saying she did a crappy job.
I will say this. He rperformance was awful, but part of that is on capcom and their voice directors. Plus they signed off on her performance. Yes she was terrible, can't deny that, but she's not 100% to blame. The privelage thing is strange and makes me question her as a person. Obviously no one should be threatened or anything, and knowing the internet it probably did happen. But to respond like that is strange.
Ashley's VA really killed it and did an awesome job. Ada's VA killed her own character with her lack of depth and she either sounds bored or dead with the delivery.
I was actually thinking about he would’ve made a better actress for Ada. Here are the top three I came up with. 1. Tara Platt - Tara’s Zero/Edelgard voice replayed up to a higher pitch with stronger emotional intonation would be excellent for the role of ADA Wong. The Voice on its own automatically gives an impression of strength which is vital to the character resented as an action girl. Because the default mode for that voice is so flat it has abundant room to be modified and played with to convey other emotional shades such as teasing or anger or humor, while never losing that strong cool effect. This would be perfect for a character like Ada who is not only self-directed and pursuing her own motives but also constantly flirts with and toys with the other characters. 2. Grey Delisle. The voice she uses for Azula pitched down a little would be perfect for the part. That particular voice is noted for having a strong erotic element to it all on its own it just needs a bit more maturity and authority to be taken seriously as the voice of agent Ada Wong. The playful and campy elements are already baked in, just needs a bit more mature timbre to sell the devious aspect of the character. 3. Rebecca Shoichet - Rebecca is best at commanding yet fun and approachable female voices. A role like Ada Wong would be perfect for her in command and loving it vibe. And especially when she gets into her deeper pitches she is very good at playing to suggestive and intriguing moods.
This is actually the very first time I've heard Ada's new voice, I actually physically recoiled at how bad it was, I thought people may have just been blowing it out of proportion as the internet tends to do. Here though, I'd say they were actually being nice with just how bad it really is, my god is it awful...
I dont really like making this comparison but it genuinely does sound like a 45~ year old white woman to me. The kind you'd overhear in Walmart or the one that talks way to much as a teacher. I'm not trying to imply that she needs some sort of "asian accent" but rather that her voice simply sounds so old for someone that is like 30 in RE4, uses her beauty to charm people, and flirts with Leon. The previous VA Hero Hei mentioned at least sounded younger and had a more sultry tone even if her range didnt impress me much. (going off the clips)
The immaturity shown here is astonishing. You all need to learn to separate a person's work from their individuality. It's audacious to claim that you were "being nice" when this very community harassed a woman over something as superficial as this, to the point where she had to wipe her Instagram page. Unbelievable.
The problem with modern media is that they forget that these strong female characters are already the best because they're absolutely the best, and not because they're women. They think that Ada and Ashley from the OG RE4 are too "gurly" like bruh, even if they're a guy, if they're written well, the audience will connect with them.
Honestly those characters where badasses because they used their femininity to their advantage and didn’t treat it like a curse. Ada was thin and nimble which made it easy for her to be silent and very acrobatic things Leon couldn’t do. Nowadays females act more like men.
Tbh Ada's Femme Fatale personality kinda died, this RE4 remake made it even worse. Its a shame because Ada's character has so much potential, but all we see is her running around with a grappling hook with her story revolving around a simp chasing her butt every 5 years. The only successful Femme Fatale character wearing red that I can think of is Anna Williams from Tekken. She's more lovable, has that feminine grace, has more personality and depth in regards to the lore of her franchise. I wish Ada had that same treatment but i don't know if capcom will ever give her one.
The thing is that she doesn't seem to have ever voice acted before; she was cast as Ada in the live action Welcome to Raccoon City movie and it seems Capcom just brought her in when the RE2 remake VA wasn't available for some reason. Capcom dropped the ball completely here
They didn't cast re2 Ada because of the union thingy, and yes, I think they really thought people liked welcome to raccoon city, but I don't think Gao did a bad job at all. Maybe for the average gamer, she did.
@@MuhRidey nah… she was actually bad. The thing is after every recasting, the va’s or actors have big shoes to fill. Think of christopher judge for instance. To play a character as iconic as kratos that too as a recast is not easy and yet he certainly made the character his own. Plus when all the other characters feel near perfection and one particular character doesn’t it makes the matters even worse. She tried to give ada a serious tone which didn’t work because ada isn’t brooding type. It could ve worked if in the re2 remake ada was made brooding type from The start but here in re4 it feels so inconsistent. She was supposed to portray a dangerous manipulative woman and not the female version of geralt with no emotions.
@@anantmohan1769 at all times, the actors are monitored by capcom's producers and directors. They are in a studio, they would be asked to redo the scenes as producers see fit, the actors can't do as they please with the character. That was the tone intended for Ada. The company has a lot of quality checks because the game is globally regarded. I'm on Lily's side here, because the "criticism" really got out of hand and invaded her privacy.
@@MuhRidey i am not justifying agressive criticism. However her response to those criticisms isn’t the response you would get from a professional. Secondly i do think capcom is to blame for ada va decision. But since she is the one portraying the character she got all the heat and instead of cooling it down she kinda aggravated it. A simple i ll try to better and improve in the future would have been suffice.
also, anytime people like her refuse to accept criticism they automatically throw out the "white privilege" or "you're racist" cards like it's a guaranteed defense, IT ISN'T, it just shows you can't accept criticism at all
Most of this is not fair criticism just people being ass holes acting like she ruined the game. There is a way to put it for example i was a bit disappointed with your performance sounded a bit flat will you work to improve in the next game. These fans she was speaking to are being ass holes so she isn't going to be nice back. There is a way to criticize with out harassing someone.
Her voice is what Capcom told her to sounds like, what exactly are you going to blame her for? If Capcom told her to raise her pitch, she would be able to do so, but that is the direction that Capcom wished her voice to sound like. She is right in this scenario, people that harassed her is in the wrong.
Heard that a lot of people thought the voices sounded flat sometimes, but as someone who’s never played the original I don’t really feel strongly about it. However you can clearly hear the differences in voice acting and to just say “well it’s cuz of white privilege I’m getting criticized” is an annoying thing that happens nowadays. Hate or people saying things just to talk sh!t will always occur when you get to big enough numbers of people, but to just summarize any criticism as hate or say it’s because of some ethereal privilege is just an easy excuse and some easy victim points. Anyway hope y’all have a nice day. (Late heart pls Hei?) (Also hope Pikamee and her fans had a nice finale 2 days ago! Never got to know her but I hope yall had fun!)
The voice acting in general for the remake is pretty bad. Ashley's VA did a good job though, and Leon has a few decent lines (though some bad reads still). Ada is just... bad.
The previous Ada VA at least has a sultry tone to her voice that suited the character. The new one sounds like she is literally just reading the words without any effort in her voice.
The entire Capcom company should throw off of the internet for the horror they are doing to the Resident Evil heroes. Leon, Ada, Claire, Jill, Chris; Capcom is just destroying their personalities and characters just to fit the new generation. My heart is broken by what is happening to my favorite series of all time.
She didn't deserve to get treated like this by the community, but her race/gender/anything she talked about has nothing to do with the reasons she was being criticized.
I haven't played the game yet, but new VA does sound like she phoned it in. Nowadays because of social media, means more people talking together, I disagree with people directly going at her Twitter or whatever but again, social media. It's not any kind of privilege issue though 😑
Original RE4 Ada VA: Makes Ada come off as flirty, sultry, cunning, and dangerous, as expected of a femme fatale. RE4 Remake Ada Wong VA: Sounds bored, and the performance sounds phoned in. When you're a Voice talent for a project, you need to convey everything in your VOICE, which takes ability in your voice. You have to convey emotions and intent with your voice, and not phone it in. When your delusional idea of "clapping back" is to bitch about the non-existence of "WhItE pRivIlEgE", you forfeit all hope of being validity.
damn the youtube comments weren't kidding the new VA sounds like some tired boomer grandma, she sounds like she just woke up from a nap and wants to go back to sleep
Craziest thing that has come out of this is how lots of people now cope and pretend like Ada's new VA did a great job just to spite the harassers💀 Imagine being that petty...
"Professional voice actor" I looked up her IMDB, this waa her first voice role. She's only ever been a live actress. Just thought I'd try to be acurate, is all.
@@gambit_54 she's cool looking I like video game characters that are Asian (ada is Chinese American) and she's skilled in fighting in resident evil lore
Nothing against the actress. Hearing it for the first time, I thought I was listening to one of those rehearsals, or one of those homemade videos where voice actors say funny lines for the fans, where the sound quality isn't important. Not really something I expected from a AAA game. Listening to her voice again and again, I couldn't imagine Ada, but instead someone sitting in an empty room with a microphone that's 10 feet away.
yeah, that's the sentence i'm looking for. she sounds like she is dubbing for abridged parody with her own microphone in her room with little mixing and editing.
I also thought she sounded like she was recording on the other side of the room from her mic. Every time Ada spoke, it took me out of the scene and made me aware that this was a person speaking lines.
Isn't it the producers decision for which voice they use? I don't like the Ada delivery either, but I'm gonna blame the producer for selecting that voice for the final product.
@@lasher840You know that's a post from 2020 , hei literally mentions that near the end saying it's not a response to the hate she got , did you not watch or pay attention to the video?
I’m Asian and didn’t know her old VA was non Asian but her voice acting for Ada was just perfect for the role in which Ada portrayed. I don’t hate this new VA by any means but she really could have done her hw and do a better job knowing she didn’t just get the role out of the blue. Hopefully she does a better job in the possible future dlc
Old Ada VA sounds like a woman who knows she can seduce any men to get what she wants by talking alone. She exudes the femme fatale energy and rocks with the confidence that Bayonetta would say "Go get girl" New VA just feels like they found someone at the street to record the lines and call it a day because she sounds she is just saying the lines. Be it voice direction or her qualification as a voice actor, it feels more like a job done for a paycheck over doing for the game. Behind the Voice Actor site shows it's her only role, but hell that one underwhelming showing of skill. Kitty Archer only voiced Marie from Dark Pictures Anthology and Eunie from Xenoblade Chronicles 3 and MY GOD she kills as Eunie.
You know, seeing her white priviledge post was so unrelated it made me think. The way she interpreted Ada Wong feels like someone who doesn't want to sound sexy or attract male attention in general, someone who was trying to change the character's essence to fit the girlboss type that doesn't "fulfill the male fantasy"...not sure i worded this properly
i never thought about it but yeah the new ada does have an inflection of an elderly lady, makes me wonder if they only hired her because shes asian and the character is asian without even caring about how well her voice fits.
@@thestrong2401 dont get why capcom, a japanese company, is following the pathetic clown leftist rhetoric, speaking as an arab, this fake moral clownery the west is currently engaging in is hypocrisy at best and deceptive at worst.
I have experience in voice acting/vo work. I think it's worth mentioning: often times what you hear in games is at the direction given to talent by a director. Normally you have someone who is listening into the booth, or someone who gives feedback to recorded lines in isolated circumstances. I sincerely doubt the team working on RE4 would just let her do whatever she wants. I don't think it's fair to lay 100% of the blame on someone who was likely following the directions of a client. That's not to say actors have NO input, as it is their voice after all. I do agree that the acting doesn't sound good (like at all) and the character does sound really disinterested. But I feel that people who say the actress is 'lazy' aren't really informed on how the industry works. You don't get to work on a franchise as big as Resident Evil without proving your worth. At the end of the day, the blame falls on whoever approved of this direction in the first place.
thank you for mentioning this important detail. it's always the actor and VA that gets the hate when it's the directors or writers who looked at their performance and approved it. there may be circumstances where it was all on the actor gaining control or leverage on what goes on the project, but those are seldom (unless you're like Tom Cruise or something similar)
Having done voice acting mostly for mods I’ll just put in my two cents here from experience: In a real game production, you’re basically just be fed your lines, usually they’ll be out of order and without context, often with just some sort of emotional note, like you need to sound angry in this one, or give at least eight different kinds of pain screams. Environment working on mods tends to be a little bit different. Because the teams are usually smaller and tighter you got much better odds of actually really understanding what’s going on in whatever you are voicing and being able to use that for your performance. Voice acting is a special skill that’s a lot harder than just saying some words into a microphone and that’s a rap. If you were doing normal acting such as theater, you have your entire body to work with; Invoice acting all you have is your voice you have to make that substitute for lack of being able to use gestures facial expressions body movement and physicality. It’s very hard and it requires a lot of development of the skill and also a lot of trust in the Director to cultivate just exactly the performance the project needs.
I agree. Being a VA you can have the person voice the same lines over and over again. Some VAs recall doing lines 25 times and they pick the best one. I think my biggest blame is the sound and voice director like you said. Who approved of this? Yeah, I don't blame the VA. I blame the direction. I think she can make Ada more like the old one, but they purposely made her sound flat for whatever reason.
Thank god we can probably salvage it with modders and AI to fix it. Ada Wong deserves better voice. She's like the ultimate badass woman of Resident Evil.
@@archersterling6726 Bro, there are literally a trump, biden, obama ai voice arguing in video games that sounds exactly like how real people act irl. I'm sure they can do voice lines just fine
Honestly what baffles me just as much as this whole thing is that was a Forbes article, because goddamn, it read like something straight off of Kotaku.
The huge disconnect between Ada's character and the VA is not only because of the level of voice acting the actress was doing. It's also because Ada's face model isn't really a good match for that VA's voice type. RE4 Remake's Ada is like a 1:1 face-match of Kristin Kreuk (Lana from Smallville, Chun-Li from the live-action). Her voice is nothing like the VA's voice-type at all and the dissonance is very obvious when you have the model on a cutscene, and then the voice comes out.
