Adam A7X vs Yamaha HS8 vs Avantone Mix Cubes Listening Comparison 

No it's not you , his room is probably causing this .More bass and lower mids on the left making it seem louder , the fact that the yammys are rear ported doesn't help as well. He will need to sort out that space.

yes it is

Yes, it is. Not sure what causes that if the room, or individually set volume knob on the monitor.

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It's so wierd how we all hear differantly as I am of the total opposite opinion and hear the Yamahas as being a bit too much in the high end compared to the Adams! Mby it's something to do with my ears being fried from 90's raves and the stupid loud atmosphere hiss in some of them old tracks lol, mby my ears can't handle dome tweaters anymore 🤣. Tbf tho, I do actually hear quite high up the frequency spectrum for my age.

Welcome!

thanks!

HS8 are an excellent monitor.

Yes they were level matched in post.

@DodgingRain Yamaha has 8 inch speaker Adam has 7 so Yamaha will have more bottom end naturally, from other A7X reviews I've seen they say i lacks a little in the bottom end, so the Yamaha might be just about right

@@jedstephensmusic0001 there's more to bottom end than just cone size.

@@dodgingrain3695 Yeah but if you don't want your low end to sound doggo cos you forced it too much from the cab design when the cone's aren't designed to get anywhere near it, then starting off with a larger driver puts you closer to the mark. Adam probably didn't want to compromise the sound by forcing a 7 inch to go lower than it can reasonably handle whist still having tight timings for bass phase relation reasons. The Adam A8X and the HS8's go lower for this exact reason, and would be a more fair test like vs like if you're going to compare low end reach. There's a reason good quality smaller speakers roll off the low end, even though they could make them go lower with cab design.

which ones are you gonna choose?

Welcome bro! If you have any questions on either of them let me know!

@@MattDxstined rly

i will say the yamahas are exciting in person. Compare to the Kali In-8 they sound like a boom box.

Did not have a chance to listen to Kali IN8, but chose HS8 over their LP8 monitors, which I considered good tool for the job as well...

Yes more of a listening test, I was in the market stuck between these moniters even though they are different ranges. These moniters are the best in there range.

Yup I second that! I run a subwoofer with my adams at home with sonar works and it sounds really good and flat.

@@ju1ceaudio me too it makes a difference with the sonarworks .

Yamahas definitely sound great for the price. Way better than jbl lsr. But the resolution and speed on the Adams is superior.

@@ju1ceaudio agreed. The yamahas actually sound really bad in comparison to the a7x. unless all you are looking for is some low end. But seriously, the a7x give so much more detail especially in the mids and the highs are so clear. hot man. Can't believe I already bought the hs8

@@avamomoh a7x is way more expensive than hs8. The fact that hs8 could compete against a7x with that low price is excellent. Yamaha speakers have always produced excellent midrange and low end detail. Thats why the yamaha studio monitors are the most popular among the industry and also outside.

@@ju1ceaudio The Adam's also sound much closer to the source material. The reason the Yamaha's sound better to some people is because they are slightly colored in the high and low end.

@@DaftFader for strictly mixing the adams are better but for listening to music occasionally the yamahas are way better. the low end punch on the adams is honestly appalling

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With Out correction

Welcome bro hope you enjoyed

Yeah iso acoustic are a great investment and the do help getting the speakers ear level which is important

Yeah the difference is hard to tell unless you hear it in person, the ribbon tweeter is a way different sound.

That's why a lot of people snip a resistor on the Yamahas which disengage the "limiter" filter on the amp. It opens up the sound quite dramatically. The midrange is compressed slightly stock and that causes a smeared mid range like what you're describing

The adams have given me translation across many platforms, but hyped do you mean the high end or just people talking about them?

@@levijessegonzalez3629 hey bro I uploaded the Yamaha hs8 vs jbl lsr310 check it out!

It works on the adams forsure. They dont go as low but they definitely give you a tight. true respresentation on your mix regardless of placement in the room. The Yamahas completely change there sound when you move them in the room but the have sub detail. Cheers!

Yup i enjoy not only mixing on my adams but also casual listening.

yez sir!

Yes it is, the pots were the same but I guess the left is lacking a bit in volume.

Hs8s are really good I ain't gonna lie

No problem!

Ah yeah man these moniters don't work very well mid field tbh unless your room is treated very well. I found the best sound out of my adams by sitting as close as possible to them

Oh what, the blessing from the Joe N tell himself! Love your videos bro! Been watching since way back!

good man

The adams translate way better . I use them at 3 different studios and everyone I know that has them tells me how well they translate.

The bass can be underwhelming I admit. With a sub they really shine.

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😂 thanks bro!

that is the orginal track, its not played through a speaker

yup thats why I put the frequency chart before hand!

Foreal I haven't heard the t7vs but I heard they are very good for the price. Just lack low mid quaility.

The volume pots were the same with mogami wires so i guess that says a little bit about the yamahas! i didnt notice till i was editing in post. We use these with sonorworks which fixed the volume imbalance. Yeah hs8s are very detailed for the price , especially compared to the jbl lsr308s. I heard there is a mod called zen pro that switchs some converters that makes them sound ever more better.

www.zenproaudio.com/yamaha-hs8-zenpro-mod-pair

@@ju1ceaudio yes they zen pro moded minds and definitely ill recommend anyone that once to get there Yamaha moded by them. yes did upgrade the sound to the a7x but in Yamaha style. was going upgrade to the a7x now don't need too if i do upgrade it got to be the Adam s2v or the ocean way juggernaut heads

@@jmizzbeatsj-jigga7888 all you gotta do is snip off a resistor and cut out the limiter in yamaha and they open up like $2000 monitors. the mod is free if you have a pair of plyers

@@levijessegonzalez3629 i already got them done you right too. That's why I didn't upgrade to the a7x. Thanks too highly appreciated check me out too.

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Hs8 yes but pros use avantone.

Yamahas do have a wide sound stage, I found the top end to be very shrill and peircing at times though.

@@ju1ceaudio depending on the source, they can be brutally honest at times.

Yes thats true. One thing you cant hear in this video is the character on each monitor. And thats where the Adams shine. The mix cubes are ear rapers but thats what they were made for lol.

Thanks bro!

Yeah bro the mix cubes definetly paint a different picture! Any thing you find harsh on those translates a lot .

I agree about the Adams and the avantone, but I must say that the Yamahas are really good for almost half the price.

This is the reason i dont have a pair in front of me right now. I have the 1st gen m-audio bx8's till 2007 and one of them is a bit off, so i went to a store to listen to the Adams to upgrade to them. Everything sounded great except for those lows, it sounds like the graph shows in this video, everything is so nice until the 45hz drop that is huge. In tracks i ve listened i didnt feel the double bass bottom or if a kick was fighting with a 808 etc. Im going to listen the a5x with a sub and il see, cause a7x with sub are to expensive for me, i love everything else but i need to feel the low end and also have a lot of headroom as a bass player who uses them for recording and playing with my roommate who is a drummer (something i did with ease with my bx8)

Appreciate the response! I am now using a subwoofer with mine as well. I moved to a bigger room for my studio and adding a subwoofer has completely changed the sound!

@@ju1ceaudio I feel like the Adams need a sub, and is the best set up

@@brandenburns3322 i run it with a jbl lsr310 and it sounds good. Do I want to upgrade it to the Adam 12 inch yes but I can't justify spending so much more for a little more quaility.

I Love the hs8 for the low end and the yamahas for the highs and mids

Yes the adams are more resolute and have faster transients. The bass is lacking though, that is there main flaw but I run a sub with them crossed at 80hz.

This comment sums up my conclusion... it be the low mids huh?

@@ju1ceaudio That might be it. Idk but I trust them.

Adam's = flat (mostly), Yamaha's = sound pretty nice (because colored slightly)

Lets go!! thanks bro

I heard those are great monitors! Yeah Yamaha make great products in everything they do.

Facts. I have 2 MSP5’s and they still work to this day. *edit: had them since 2000. Those things are mini tanks.

Yes after using these moniters for a while now the adams translate very good in every room I've used them in. Also the avantones work very well to!

Thanks bro I really appreciate it! Yeah man i love my adams at home for mixing or just casual listening.

nice bro. yeah i love my adams

yeah sorry the volume pots on the yamahas were matched but yet the volume was different.

That was a volume output problem on the yamahas. The volume pots were on the same setting but one is quieter than the other.

Try reversing the power cord for 180 degrees in the outlet on one speaker if it is posible and if you live in europe and using shuko power cords

Appreciate it bro glad to help!

Yeah I agree. Thanks for watching!

Appreciate it bro!

Me too!

Is should doubly highlight any flaws with them as any low spots will be twice as low in volume and any high spots with be twice as high in volume :D.

What I really wanna know tho, is did they sound like the same speakers? :D

Thanks bro! Yes I love my adams.

Yeah transients are so much more clear on the adams. They translate great to. What you hear is generally what you get depending on your room. Lower midrange/upper bass is more defined and is easier to find boxiness

@@ju1ceaudio Thanks for sharing this!

Adams are the best and what I use at my home studio

Thxx man

I would if i had the t8v!

Yeah man I love my adams! yamahas are still the best for the price though

Welcome!

Appreciate you bro, i havent heard the t8vs but i have been using the a7vs and the a77x.

@@ju1ceaudio I got a pair in the post right now. My old monitors packed up, and I hate the feeling of wearing headphones for long production sessions so found a smoking deal on a pair of T8Vs. I would of got the Yamahas was it not for the slightly harsh high end for my ears, they do otherwise sound really good tho. I was looking at the presonus offerings too, but I've had issues with amp hiss in previous monitors, and am told sometimes they can suffer from that too, so didn't wanna risk it and have to deal with that constantly again, plus the Adam tweater is a suposed to be a better quality ribbon tweater anyway.

😂 my bad. you can't go wrong with either, the biggest difference for me was with the top end quaility. The hs8s can fry your ears but the adams don't fatigue.

Thanks bro! I definitely will be making more, yes I'm gonna do that I would love to hear those someday.

@@ju1ceaudio ALL THE BEST BROTHER

Its all hype though in the tweeter

They are, but i would recommend the Kali audio in-8 over it forsure! I got a new video on the way about those.

Welcome bro

It is the flattest though, much better for its job.

I was considering getting the hedds. They cost a bit more and are a little different.

Ive used the a77x but they are moniters i really dont like! maybe it was just my rooms tone because alot of people like them.

Yes, I suppose we all hear things differently. When I first got them I was unsure but after a few sessions they began to reveal their magic. A big improvement too was placing them on K&N 26795 stands with the large base plates. @@ju1ceaudio

Hs8s are not bad though!

@@ju1ceaudio Luckily, I live 10 minutes from Sweetwater! I’m going on a listening spree today. Woohoo!

nice!

Thanks bro this is my church studio.

@@ju1ceaudio Oh nice.

yeah they hit low forsure

anything will work bro tbh, 200$ range will be more than enough

More resolution 100%

Thanks!

well, bass has to translate well with harmonics so not haveing alot of bass isnt to much of a bad thing. the adams translate so much better

yeah slightly

Yeah yamahas are good! No I'm in California

Yeah definitely more low end in the Yamaha's

Thanks bro!

They might in the video, but thats why I gave the freq charts. And yes the mix cubes are ear rapers

Your right. The adams sound flatter. But they have like no bass

Thanks bro!

Hs8 to a7x you will definitely notice less bass. But the quaility is far superior. I would do it.

yeah adams have a large soundscape

Yeah bro both are really good! Cheers

I heard the septors are good.

I second that

You see how subjective this is - half people here have it other way around, including me : )

yeah the adams have a lil more lower mids but they are bright in person

That's because the Yamaha's are coloured to sound nice, not be flat. The Adam's are flat .. but don't sound "Amazing" when directly compared directly to something with hyped highs and lows, but you'll notice it when you start mixing on them both and only one translated to other speakers well.

Yamaha's freq response is actually very flat, you can check many technical reviews. The monitor is very well balanced, with upfront high mids. Knowing that charts and real life use may differ, but would not call Yamaha's HS 8 "smiley" - they have just extended low end, and upfront high end. They actually translate very well if placed in proper room with acoustic treatment and positioning. Some even call them "sterile". I would call some KRK's hyped, but definitely not HS8. There is not many better monitors in this price range/segment than 8inch HS8 from Yamaha.

How are they?

@@ju1ceaudio I would say they are comparable to HS8 in bass response maybe a bit more bassier but also have the sharpness of the A7X highs because of the ribbon tweeter. The value overall is great given the fact that they are slightly cheaper than the HS8s (Which where the alternative when I picked mine in June last year).

@@sleeplessN The Adam highs are so nice and fast. The hs8s fatuige my ears pretty quickly. I need to get my hands on those t8vs!

Really appreciate it brother! God bless!

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thanks bro much love

Yup amazing moniters!

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Appreciate it brother!

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