@@herbbearingseed Psalm 12:6-7, has nothing to do with the King James Bible. There was neither no kjv and textus receptus back then. The "words of the LORD" are the promises of safety made to the needy or the poor from a generation of wicked individuals who had oppressed them. The poor are those whom the LORD will preserve and not the 1611 kjv that came many years after.
I believe the Bible is the source of wise counsel. This is a unique book and should be read by everyone. It is like a message from the Father to children. This is a guide for life. if people respected and applied, there would be fewer problems.
I think that Adam Nicolson who did this video did a wonderful job. Many years ago a lecturer told my class that the best way to improve your English was to read the Bible, but he said it has to be the King James version of the Bible. No other version will do. For a number of years I did just that. It improved my English grammar as I learned to understand what it is saying. Just reading it and learning to understand it improves your English grammar. Since then I have been learning Hebrew and Greek so I try to read it in the original languages. Those languages have improved my English grammar even more than the King James Bible. If you don't know English grammar very well then you can't learn Greek of Hebrew very well (particularly Greek).
Acts 12:4 Easter was celebrated in Biblical times. /sarcasm. King James Version "And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people." 1.) Nowhere within the KJV does it say God would use the KJV to preserve His word. 2.) The KJV is hardly the first authorized English Bible. 3.) It is certainly not the first Bible from an English king. 4.) The authorized KJV in 1611 authorized the Apocrypha. 5.) The KJV does in places quote from the Septuagint, thankfully. King James didn't like the Geneva Bible, the Bible favored by the English people, the Puritans left England with their Geneva Bibles to flee the Church of England and from being persecuted, and came to America. If only KJV people had a clue...
Think you all should read it again it has multiple contradictions numerical contradictions and its not preserved by god the original scriptures were in Aramaic not English or Latin they burend all the orginal ones for political gain and to make money. Devilish people by the way King James was also know as the Queen of England wanna know why ? look it up!!! He him self was a contradiction to all that he wrote and changed!!!!!
@@raymack8767 Of course Easter was celebrated in “Biblical times” the verse at the start calls it the “feast of unleavened bread”which is the Passover in relation to the Jews and then when it mentions Herod,who comes from idumea,who is a pagan so he celebrates not Passover but Ishtar,the goddess of fertility, Which was celebrated at the around the same time.
Love my King James Bible, even though I have various other translations. I am finding, it seems, that I tend to remember the scriptures in the KJV Bible more than I do the others. To me personally - it seems to somehow flow so poetically. Yes - I love my KJV Bible. 😌
KJV is based on the Original Received Hebrew and Greek Manuscripts. Modern Bible versions is based from the Critical Text like the Codex Alexandria, Codex Vaticanus, etc. and they have alot of missing verses and it's been only discovered in the late 1800s. I don't believe that God would allow his perfect words to be buried for many centuries. I believe that a Perfect God can Perfectly Preserve His Perfect Words all through out generation. and the english version of the Preserved Word of God is the KJV.
1.) Nowhere within the KJV does it say God would use the KJV to preserve His word. 2.) The KJV is hardly the first authorized English Bible. 3.) It is certainly not the first Bible from an English king. 4.) The authorized KJV in 1611 authorized the Deuterocanon 5.) The KJV authorized the Deuterocanon be placed within it because they didn't want people to read it! /s. 6.) But if they knew it was not Scripture, then why include it at all? And if there was nothing wrong with it, why take it out later? 7.) King James didn't like the Geneva Bible, the Bible favored by the English people. The Puritans left England with their Geneva Bibles fleeing the Church of England's persecution and came to America.
What a wonderful writer and speaker. Dennis Prager interviewed Adam on this subject in 2003. When Adam explained the Geneva Bible had the word "king" replaced with "tyrant", Dennis misheard it as "parent", and thought it was profound, but Adam never corrected him! :)
King James brought many scholars together to get the best translation possible and that they did. There is wisdom in the counsel of many. The King James and Geneva Bibles follow each other very closely.
The most read Bible. Other Bibles might sell more, but this is the one which the most people actually read. Lost is the value of a STANDARD for the English Language. A one book which all read to unite our language which is so accustomed to drift.
Dwarf except Paul wasn't around then. Kjv is mostly a compilation of the nine bibles that came before kjv, the Latin, or new phrases or words that seemingly have not appeared anywhere else before the kjv.
@@anonymousperson6462 My understanding is that despite the questionability of its sponsors KJV was translated directly from the available Hebrew and Greek texts. Great care was taken with much crosschecking to ensure accuracy. After the first edition equal care was made in typesetting. However much of the word choice has little to do with modern English and it is hard to understand.
So do I and our God has preserved His Words. He will use the foolish things of this world to confine the wise, so true. They are still attacking our God's words, what else would Satan do..I see why satan hates King James...
Very interesting in the beginning talking about how King James would love the early Bibles about basically worshiping himself therein lies one of the greatest sins
@wisemanwiseguy You keep falling back to this nonsensical accusation. As much as it annoys me, I keep responding because you keep perfectly illustrating the absolute absurdity of the KJV only crowd. Let me ask you this, did the Word of God exist before the KJV? If so, why did they "criticize/correct" it? If not, I suppose you think there were no believers before the perfect KJV was translated?
God uses the most unusual people to accomplish His means. All thru the scriptures God picks the most unexpected people good and bad to accomplish His goals for mankind. The KJB is the result of God's God-breathed result of Him communicating to mankind who He is, What He wants and expects from us and the judgment toward those who choose not to cooperate with Him.
God’s Secretaries has been on my reading list for 20 years. What led me to the book was a PBS Newshour interview with the late Gwen Ifill (transcripts available) and an interview at the National Cathedral. With the announcement of Louisiana and posting the 10 Commandments, I decided to finally read it. I enjoyed the book, but it isn’t light reading and sometimes very dry. After reading, I’ve been tracking down reviews and summaries. This NG one is by far the best and most entertaining. By reading these comments, I didn’t realize there was a King James Only group/conspiracy! “The King James Only controversy is essentially a conspiracy theory that claims that all modern translations of Scripture are based on tainted manuscripts and that their translators are driven by a liberal Protestant or Roman Catholic (or even one-world government) agenda.” - Trevin Wax
@chipk77 The Bible does not command people to abandon judgment, unless you seriously truncate the scripture. It cautions against -hypocritical- judgment and misjudgment (urging refined discernment) and reserves -final- judgment for the highest authority. There are far more exhortations to exercise wise judgment than there are cautions against it. Please don't paraphrase and edit to suit a singular argument.
i say to anybody who dont bieleve in god to test him... what do you have to lose......... if you seek him whole heartdly he will come..... he says if you seek him and knock on his door he will not ignore you. But you have to bieleve that you truly want to seek him. easy asking would be for energy, joy, peace, truth, help! remember don't look at him as GOD but your father for you are his children. Understand jesus was his son and that jesus sacrifice for you weather you bieleve him or not
The KJV is still the ONLY English Bible worth reading. I will be KJV Only until my death bed. I agree with the sentiment "If it ain't King James, it ain't Bible."
The king James Translators themselves disagree with that statement. While the king James Bible is a beautiful translation, it can be fairly argued it is one of the least useful translations as many people today cannot understand it. The Bible itself even tells us to translate the Bible only in away so preserves the original meaning and so people can understand it. The King James Bible is very accurate translation, but in many ways it does change some of the meanings and many people cannot understand it
73 books bible is the real book that teaches real spiritual salvation, while KJV bible is only has 66 books bible.even denied Jesus Christ during mass in the transfiguration of the bread real body of christ.
@@susanguardalupe7990 Good morning Susan. You said; "KJV bible is only has 66 books" The 1611 King James Bible had 73 books in it. In fact the King James translators translated the Apocrypha into English from the Sinaiticus. The Douay Reims uses the Apocrypha from the 1611 King James Bible
You say that but have you read every Bible there is out there? How do you know that this translation is really the closest/best 1 there is? How do you know that this translation doesn’t have things in there that could be steering you wrong?
@wisemanwiseguy I do believe. Apollos did all this and yet he did not have a completely accurate view of salvation. That is the point. This is a pattern with you - you seem to habitually miss the point. Priscilla and Aquila had to *explain* it to him. I note that you left off vs. 26, which demolishes your point: "When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately." You didn't even address my other points, which is telling.
@itsasin1969 If something is a myth and someone believes that myth and consequently becomes a better person, does it really matter that it is a myth? Instead of trying to tear down someone's faith why not try to find some of your own? Just a thought.....
So fun style to explain history , although listening to the scriptures from a native english speaker makes it sound a bit delusional. I sincerely would love more sobriety.
@OneVoiceMore My argument is an ad arguendo and a reduction to absurdity. You've clearly missed this and think I'm actually arguing that someone should cut off their hands or pluck out their eyes. Clearly this is not true, but it would be what one MUST conclude, if we apply your (and "wisemanwiseguy's") absurd view of the KJV-onlyism.
Bible is in man and woman and it's up to us to read it and in the fruit of us it is read and the spirit it is read to us and to believe and receive the words of God and to have faith in the Son of man in Christ to believe and receive God blessings.for each has and is the path of the Lord, nothing is greater than the love of God for us,if we believe in the kingdom of God and his only Son Jesus Christ, praises are in the House of the Lord,holy one
@hobo59 No single best in my opinion. Best bet is to have several on hand, and understand what type of translation is used (just read the preface). By that I mean is it dynamic (thought for thought) or formal (word for word). Most are accessible online. You might choose a literal translation like Young's (KJV is also fairly literal), a more loose translation like the NIV, and a less literal (but still mostly formal) like the ESV. Unfortunately, this is an emotionally charged subject for some.
WOW, guys, calm down, Religion and different views of Religion and Scripture are for everyone; let's try to be respectful, even when we differ. This guy is obviously biased; I am sure we can deal with that.
@wisemanwiseguy You dont see the irony in your position given the fact that the King James translators did precisely what you are accusing me of doing? They criticized and corrected the Bible of their day. The KJV has been corrected and revised at least four times. I don't think these revisions make it any less the Word. You seem to be under the impression that God inspired the Scriptures in the King's English. He didn't.
@wisemanwiseguy So you're claiming that you don't sin with either your eyes or your hands? Really? "offend thee" is clearly referring to sin, because the consequence of this "offense" is Hell. So are you saying you do not sin?
Mohammed dreamed up a different story from that of the Bible. Different Jesus, different gospel. And Muslims are ignorant for believing his version as much as Mormons are ignorant for believing Joseph Smith's Book of Mormon. Pure nonsense!
i love Bible the King James Bible..I believe the Son of God who love....if you don't believe the Bible, it's ok...read it first the Bible once then if you don't believe that is your choice...but i say unto to does don't believe I am already save by Christ Jesus my Lord...so see you all on the judgement day in heaven....peace be with you all...
@wisemanwiseguy I haven't made a fool out of myself with false accusations and factual errors. There are other examples that make my point, such as Apollos who knew both Jesus and the Old Testament, but needed to have things explained to him more clearly. The Epistles consist of correcting the doctrine of Christians who know Jesus. Christians didn't even have the complete Bible for centuries after Christ. You worship a translation, I'll stick with God.
You silly goose Chip. You worship a fake bible with FAKE Christians. Philo, Marcion, Origen , Eusebius and Wescott and Hort were NOT Christians . They hated the WORD of God and did everything in their power to destroy it and replace it with a corrupted version. If you knew the Bible then you would know this verse as well. Psalms 138:2 kjv "I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name." WHOOPS ,,,, you again do not know what your talking about. I find silly gooses like you all the time and their shallow knowledge of what is TRUTH and what is a LIE. You can stick with your "god" . It is not the God that some of us worship. Most of us CAME out from amongst them and we touch not the UNCLEAN thing. But you love it.
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@PirateXzibit KJV is not the closest to either Hebrew or Greek, though it is sometimes better if, for instance, you know the difference between thee and thou. Our knowledge of languages and the manuscript quality has vastly improved in 400 years. The idea that the KJV is the best is typically based on the idea that God preserved the "true" Word in the Textus Receptus (although it is not the oldest and does not have the most manuscripts), but even then it is not the "best" translation.
So which is the "best" translation there Chip??? And if you think OLDEST means BESTEST , then think again. And the CTs only had about 1400 manuscripts which do NOT even agree among themselves. Hhhmmmmmmmm,. LOCATION , LOCATION, LOCATION, God brought them out of Egypt for a reason. Alexandria is in Egypt. So why do you think that the Apostle Paul , NEVER , EVER went to Eqypt and especially Alexandria??? Come on , just your best guess. But the KJV and the TR manuscripts from which it comes , comprise nearly 5800 manuscripts. Your OLDEST as BESTEST arguments are full of holes and the 60 KJV Translators had your CORRUPTED CT manuscripts from Alexandria and they THREW them out for OBVIOUS reasons. You sound like you are trained in a formal Bible college which is corrupt and always in ERROR and you and your error riden professors always run back to Egypt. ALWAYS. Your answers give yourself away.
@OneVoiceMore Wow, you're either a legend in your own mind or the biggest troll RU-vid has ever seen. For some reason I keep responding to your nonsense. To which "challenge" are you referring?
@wisemanwiseguy They explained what they had heard orally from the Apostles and other early Evangelists. Now answer my other question. How are you typing without eyes or hands?
The original 1611 Bible does not use Joshua. It uses Iesus. The capital I looks like a J in the gothic typeface used, but you can see the same letter used when words like If and It are capitalized.
@wisemanwiseguy How are you typing without your hands or eyes? That's what I want to know. Surely you've sinned at least once since becoming a Christian, and since you just believe what the Bible says without explanation, you have cut off your hands and plucked out your eyes. So how is it you are even using a computer? I mean, you believe you should pluck out your eyes and cut off your hands if they cause you to sin, right?
@wisemanwiseguy No, I'm talking about my question regarding cutting off your hands and gouging out your eyes. Have you done this? You believe what the Bible says without explanation or exception, so surely you have obeyed this command from Jesus.
@wisemanwiseguy What are you talking about? King James is a great Bible, but it is not the best translation. Part of the reason is that 21st Century English is not the same as 17th Century English. The reason for the King James Bible was to put the Word of God in the hands of, and make it accessible to, all people. Why would you deny people today of the same benefit?
@chipk77 You're absolutely misrepresenting the entire verse to suit an argument. Wiseman did not quote 'some other verse'. He COMPLETED your misleading interpretation by simply expanding to the rest of the SAME CHAPTER, which clearly explains that you are selectively culling and cherry-picking scripture to generate a fallacious 'gotcha'. You lose.
@mokmok8080 Sorry this is blocked for you. It shouldn't be. We've not put any restrictions on any countries for National Geographic Live videos. I'll look into it. In the meantime, you can also watch it at natgeo(dot)com and search ng live in the videos page. Good luck!
6:14 In the Old Testament the "King" appears 400 times. And replaced it with the word "Tyrant". Yeah, that was a good idea...not Imagine if that was in the New Testament, Matthew 2:2 "Where is the newborn *Tyrant* of the Jews."
@OneVoiceMore Notice you don't actually address any of my points? You just call them "polemic" and "undergraduate." A clear sign that you don't understand the words you are using.
@wisemanwiseguy You are "explaining and correcting" the Bible as you have accused me of doing. Keep going. It's hilarious. You're saying it doesn't mean what it clearly means when taken literally. You are not only wrong in this argument, but you are extremely judgmental, which Jesus also commands us not to be. I'm sure you have an excuse for that as well, but I'm sure you don't think it's "explaining or correcting" anything.
Do ye not know that the saints shall JUDGE the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to JUDGE the smallest matters? I Corin 6:2 kjv. But you cannot even get the basic DOCTRINES down like the Doctrine of Judgement. Which God also commands the BELIEVER to not fellowship with silly gooses like you. It is the DOCTRINE of SEPARATION and is used to keep the BELIEVER from getting a bunch of LEVEN on him and becoming spotted like you are. You just cannot accept REBUKE, REPROOF or CORRECTION, or INSTRUCTION and God says your an UNWISE person and a scorner. II Tim 4:2-4 kjv, Prov 9:8 kjv, Prov 14:6 kjv, Prov 10:7 kjv, Since you have NO authority and have NO Word of God , you are in the FLESH and you cannot RIGHTLY DIVIDE the Word of Truth. II Tim 2:15 kjv. You cannot STUDY because you have no word of God. That word is no where to be found in ANY of your modern versions. It is removed by your buddies from Alexandria. First , you have to HAVE the Word of Truth , but you have already REJECTED that . Your scholarship is hardly helping you and it is a STUMBLINGBLOCK to yourself and others who do not really understand the importance of the PRESERVED Word of God, KJV 1611. But you can still HUMBLE yourself , and REPENT . It is the RIGHT thing to do. Or will your PRIDE rise up and choke the TRUTH from you again?
I like the KJV, NKJV and the NASB. I wanted to mention what I don't like about the KJV. The KJV does not capitalize the pronouns for God, such as He or Him etc. Here is an example using the KJV compared to the NKJV and NASB: For God so loved the world, that He gave His [a]only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. (NASB) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (KJV) For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. (NKJV) God's Name should always be capitalized, whether using a pronoun or His actual Name. Also, I don't like how the KJV uses the word Holy Ghost for the Holy Spirit. A ghost can only be in one place at one time. God is everywhere. Here are three examples from Matthew 28, the Great Commission: Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (KJV) Go [a]therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” [b]Amen. (NKJV) Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you [b]always, even to the end of the age.” (NASB)
The KJV was not translated from Greek and Hebrew texts. It couldn't have been. There were very few texts in existence which were under the control of the Vatican. The very same Vatican which fought against the translation of the bible into vernacular languages and certainly was violently opposed to the Protestant Church of England. So it is evident then, that the translators of the KJV would not have had much of any Greek or Hebrew texts to draw upon. In the beginning of this presentation, it is pointed out that the Purpose of this version was to take the boring Bishops bible and create a version which would be appealing to the masses of both the rich and puritan. Which by the way, the Puritans never did accept this version for themselves, but preferred the Geneva bible over all others. This very purpose and the way it was created, shows that in reality, the KJV is really nothing more than a revision of the Bishops Bible which was a revision of the Geneva Bible, which was a revision of Tyndale's Bible, which was in reality a translation of the Latin Vulgate and not of the original Greek and Hebrew.
Some of it was translated from Greek and Hebrew text, but not a lot of it as most of the grade managers we have available today had not been found yet. Most of the manuscripts used to translate the king James version were Latin Translations. This is part of the reason why you find verses in the king James version that do not appear in other translations. And example of this is first John chapter 5 verse 7. While it is in the king James and the Latin Vulgate it does not appear in any Greek manuscript before the 14th century and even then it only appears in about five of them. For reference we have just under 6000 manuscripts for the New Testament alone. These verses are put in the footnotes or in brackets of modern translations.
The Catholic Church has always had Bibles in numerous languages.Latin is just the language used in the west.The Byzantine Catholic Church had their Bible in Koine Greek.The Antiochian Catholic Church had their Bible in Aramaic.The Coptic Catholic Church had their Bible in Copt.The AAremnian Catholic Church had their Bible in Armeniuan,etc...The Catholic Church had an English Bible called the Douay Rheims before the KJV Bible of the Church of England.
I have to stand corrected on one point. I was mistaken in part in stating that the KJV was translated from the Latin Vulgate. It was translated from the Textus Receptus which was a Greek bible created in 1516 which had many parts of it copied from the Latin Vulgate.
@lilbigbrow All of them tell the truth to varying degrees of accuracy and effectiveness, but the basic message remains. The problem is (especially acute in evangelicalism) this idea that you can "do theology" from any English translation of the Bible. You need knowledge of the original languages, the culture, literature, textual criticism, and different translation methods (formal vs. functional equivalence) among other things. These difficulties led many to oppose "vulgar" translations.
Such as the different prefaces of the King James Bible that were fazed out due to not being able to explain statements such as ( Names diligently changed! ) & more!!!
@wisemanwiseguy Ok, I'm not sure where your hang up is because I believe what the Scriptures say about themselves. Are you saying that if someone doesn't understand what a talent is (in the Parable of the Talents), you can't say, "oh, that's a whole lot of money and does not refer to someone's ability, i.e. being talented." Which might not be clear to someone unfamiliar with the Bible, that this is somehow pridefully revising the Bible? That's absurd. The Bible frequently needs explaining.
@wisemanwiseguy Wait, I though you believed the Bible. This says if you sin, you should cut off your hand, but you're claiming that's not true because of what some other verse says. Did you just *gasp* explain something in the Bible? How dare you! LOL. You have thoroughly refuted your own argument. Thanks!
@wisemanwiseguy Apollos showed Jesus was the Christ from the Old Testament. Priscilla and Aquila explained to him the way of God "perfectly" because although he knew about the Gospel, his understanding was deficient (much like yours). Now answer my other question: Have you cut off your hands and gouged out your eyes? Your lack of answer is telling. It's because your position that you simply believe the Bible without explanation or qualification is indefensible.
@OneVoiceMore Not surprisingly, you miss the point entirely. Work on your reading comprehension and then come back after you've surpassed a 4th grade reading level.
@wisemanwiseguy Did Apollos have a perfect understanding before Priscilla and Aquila corrected him? The answer is no. Therefore, his understanding was deficient. Your inability to follow simple lines of reasoning is why you are failing to see the absurdity of your position.
Only God could preserve the bible thru the centuries ,so that everyone could hear the gospel in their own language and no one will have excuse in judgment day...
@wisemanwiseguy A Christian would not make false accusations like this. You should take better care with your tongue. Maybe open up to James 3 and read that.
@wisemanwiseguy You have just unwittingly demolished your own argument even though you attempted to avoid it by not answering the question. Congratulations. When you figure out how you have done this, let me know.
@hobo59 That would certainly be a useful tool set, but every translation has its shortcomings. They key is knowing what those are and taking them into account. You can't really go wrong if you do that. I agree, though, the guidance of the Holy Spirit is ultimately what you need to understand the Scriptures, which I personally think can be achieved through all but the most obviously corrupt/slanted versions (e.g. the New World Translation by the JWs).
